Care to give Baja Nomad a little something?

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz Quote: Originally posted by David K Long legs in La Paz and Cabo Ron... I too sometimes have 'selective reading' issues, but I did write this earlier in this fun filled thread (you missed?): "Frankly, if you think there is no cost or value to maintain this site, then why waste your time here? I find it the most valuable of all the Internet Baja web sites... because it is live interaction with people who have just returned from Baja or who are in Baja right now... and in far greater numbers in one or two days than the other Baja forums see all year!" >>> The part that says '...or who are in Baja right now...' is refering to you guys who live full or part time in Baja. Since you brought up "selective reading issues", I can't & won't assume to speak for CaboRon, but I didn't miss it, I read & absorbed what you wrote immediately upon reading it. You musta skimmed over the words "majority of his posts" in my post. Quote: Now, for a lot of you: shame on you! You use or abuse this site and then complain when a member SUGGESTS voluntary contributions be mailed in, IF you would like to TIP the host for his hard work and EXPENSE to provide a forum for all of us to SHARE Baja experiences and information. In the voice of Gomer Pyle: SHAME SHAME SHAME! David, what right do you have to stand in judgment of the rest of the members here; painting us all with the same brush simply because it's YOUR brush (thought/idea/feeling/experience/OPINION). Well guess what, we ALL have our own personal thoughts/feelings/ideas/experiences/OPINIONS & because they don't parallel yours, that doesn't make any of the rest of us pond scum (MY words for how you make me feel, NOT implying YOU have ever used those words!), it doesn't reduce the value of our individual contributions. You have a bad habit, IMO, of overusing the terms "we" & us" when stating YOUR opinions. Please stop assuming that you have some inalienable right to speak for the masses; the masses have individual voices & can speak for themselves/myself if they so desire. Quote: For those of you who have u2u'd me support for my action, many thanks... Having a lot to share about Baja shouldn't make those who share less jealous... I am not competing with you. I suggest you just enjoy what is offered on Nomad or move to a different thread. Taking all the time to bad mouth me or my style is just so childish and adds NOTHING to help other Baja travelers (or residents)! Bernie says Nomad is about 'People Helping People'... What I am trying to do, and hope other Nomads do as well. You couldn't be further from the truth in YOUR OPINION that I'm speaking from a position of jealousy. I've yet to read anything in your posts for me to be jealous of. Childish? Stating my thoughts/feelings/OPINIONS is childish? Did you actually say that with a straight face? Wise words from Bernie.......you "hope other Nomads do as well" David, what planet are you living on? Have you missed the point of this entire site? According to that logic, you only acknowledge your own input as having any value. Wake up & smell the coffee! This is not "the DK site", there are a lot of fine & generous people here who give of their time, knowledge, experience in many ways....for you to belittle someone or their actions because you may not be personally aware of it is the height of hypocrisy! I've personally helped a lot of Nomads off-line, and I know many, many others who have as well. Because I/they choose to do it out of the public eye for varying reasons, does NOT make my/their value to Baja Nomad any less than yours because you choose to publicize all your good deeds. David, before you blast off a whiny response, please do at least you & I a favor....get off your high horse & reread my words several times to see if you and find ANY grains of personal truth in them. Before you classify this as just another "personal attack"...is the phrase constructive criticism in your vocabulary? Do you want to do a quantity comparison of how many U2U's we each received in favor of our individual posts?

In my opinion, your post is a very good one---but that is just my OPINION. Others might disagree and that is their OPINION.

David,
You know a lot about many things in Baja and yes, you do help a lot of people with your information. But, IMHO, when you present opinions as facts, and present it all as if you speak for everyone ---well, then come what you call personal attacks.

And please, stop sticking in your personal political opinions as if they are some sort of facts---and the idea that you would shame others? Gees, I found that really difficult to believe you would do that---it is one of those, how dare you things.

Now, besides the U2Us, can we collect and put together the e-mails?

Then again, it is not a popularity contest----just a forum with lots of different minded people.

Diane

Diane

Has it ever been determined how many Nomads are year round and permanent? I know I am . I wonder how many others?

Seek & yea shall find!

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=34172

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Originally posted by oxxo Quote: Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz it was to point out again that many Nomads live here year-round & permanently; Has it ever been determined how many Nomads are year round and permanent? I know I am . I wonder how many others?

Either the horse is too tall or the legs are too short !

[Edited on 9-27-2008 by Diver]

.......and I was doing so well at aroma therapy and keeping out of this thread !
Darn !!

I really tried.

You guys from the TJ jail are all the same !

"BAJA NEWS ALERT" THE GOVERNORS OF BAJA CALIFORNIA AND BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR HAVE DECLARE DAVID K. A NATIONAL BAJA CALIFORNIA TREASURE NOW LEAVE HIM ALONE!

[Edited on 9-28-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

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Originally posted by Diver Quote: Originally posted by BajaGringo About time for another group hug... You guys from the TJ jail are all the same !

I am touched that you remember our "special" time that we shared together...



[Edited on 9-27-2008 by BajaGringo]

1. I don't want to be included in Ron's( us.)
2.Dk makes some good picture posts for newbies.
3. He always has to show a picture of himself.
4. He's always bragging about how long and all the past people and functions he's been to. If you have been on this forum for awhile it gets tiresome.\
5. He does post like he owns this forum.
If you cannot see the above, you just give him a hug and tell him he's great.
I'm sure there are other people that could make many more examples.
This is just an explanation of where I'm coming from.

fishbuck

Do you want it to die because you don't want to accept all the goodthings we are saying in reference to DK. Accept reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes there's nothing on TV I want to watch.

[Edited on 9-28-2008 by comitan]

You mean you "enviros" that drive the polluting cars in Baja? Oink Oink, Oink! I should never post after I've had a couple of Cuba Libres . Hey Ron, when are we going to get together for an American breakfast at Casa de Oxxo? It is Sunday tomorrow.

DK thinks of himself as MINI-ME(ans) We love ya DK, just limit yourself to the trip reports. If you're in the area, we have American breakfast at Casa de Oxxo tomorrow morning.

[Edited on 9-28-2008 by oxxo]

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Originally posted by comitan 1. I don't want to be included in Ron's( us.) 2.Dk makes some good picture posts for newbies. 3. He always has to show a picture of himself. 4. He's always bragging about how long and all the past people and functions he's been to. If you have been on this forum for awhile it gets tiresome.\ 5. He does post like he owns this forum. If you cannot see the above, you just give him a hug and tell him he's great. I'm sure there are other people that could make many more examples. This is just an explanation of where I'm coming from.

Hi Comitan,

How are you today? Fine, I hope... I really don't want you to have any sad days... I mean you live in near paradise... You should be happy! I want you to be happy... I want all Nomads to be happy! Since you listed why you are unhappy let me try to offer something...

I checked, and I don't always post a picture of myself... not always.:

Actually, I just show stuff because a picture is often worth a thousand words... so instead of so much yak, yak... I post photos of Baja or people in Baja. Since I am Baja a lot during my trips... I am included... often with Baja Angel (do you like seeing her picture?)...

Those functions I post photos of... well, many were MY functions (Viva Baja parties, Matomi 1 & 2, El Rosario Tours) I created so that ALL Baja Internet people could have a chance to meet in person and in doing so, could further their friendships and increase our knowledge of Baja which helps the people in Baja. Sorry you didn't make it to any!

How does one post "like he owns the forum"? How does that differ from a post "like he doesn't own the forum"? Sure, I post a lot... often to share some Baja travel or history details... sometimes just to interact with a conversation... and unfotunately to defend myself for the few times people like to do nothing but complain about what I post. Well, I may not change your thoughts about me here or if we meet in person, but please know that I just love the peninsula and the people who also love Baja I have found to be mostly a great group of people... If I can help any of you, I will... That is just who I am... Look back, you see a lot of posts I have started... They are mostly there to help someone have a great Baja experience by showing what is out there or how to find it... The reason people originally come to Nomad.

Instead of complaining, how about contributing? Give something back for the hours of entertainment this site provides you... If not a financial donation, then some good trip or other Baja stories. I mean, after all... THAT is the reason people come to this site... to read about BAJA!!!

Now, have a great day be it in paradise or some other place!

Someone brought the horse back to life, DK the folling post is by Longlegslapaz

Slimshady



Bob and Susan & oldlady speak from experiences that you don't want to experience....do a search here for SEMERNAT, PROFEPA and/or EIS for a lot of information in English....or take oldlady's advice & look at the SEMERNAT website if you're fluent in Espanol.

I'm roughly 1 mile from the Bay & my property required a full EIS; I followed the law to the letter & it still took 6 months for final approval!

Don't believe builders!! They will generally tell you what you want to hear so they can start making money sooner! Get information from SEMERNAT & get it in writing over a signature! YOU are held liable, the builder is not responsible for any fines, penalties or repercussions....it all falls on the property owner.

How do you rate your posts compared to this type of post, seriously.

Liar liar pants on fire !
Here is your post to Comitan; it is definitely directed at him !

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Originally posted by Diver Quote: Originally posted by David K No, of course I didn't say 'you' don't... I am speaking to everyone. Maybe that is the problem with the way I write... I don't specify enough... I thought you know my intentions well enough ... having been here that long... Liar liar pants on fire ! Here is your post to Comitan; it is definitely directed at him ! Quote: Originally posted by David K Hi Comitan, Instead of complaining, how about contributing? Give something back for the hours of entertainment this site provides you... If not a financial donation, then some good trip or other Baja stories.... Either stand by what you say and defend it or don't say it or apologize when you're wrong. This is the same thing I am trying to teach my 7 year old !! .

Is Sunday a normal high drinking day or what? LOL (just a joke ladies)...

Yes, I did say "instead of complaining, why not..." Mr. Diver... I did NOT say Comitan (personally) doesn't contribute... this was to everyone who complains. Please note the obvious... I am for positive Baja Nomad posts... period. I even said to Comitan he has posted lots of good stuff so he would be clear of my meaning.

I am saying to ALL YOU COMPLAINERS: stop messing up Nomad with these repeated complaints... If you don't like a topic, then find one you do. Because you don't like seeing my reprorts, photos or 'opinion'/ facts doesn't mean others don't as well. This kindergarten fussing is not helping... The thread was my suggestion to give Nomad a tip for good service... THAT'S ALL.

Isn't it amazing how you had nothing better to do than tear this suggestion up because little old me made it, if that is the reason? So, I am wondering is it me, the reason for you 'anti-DKers' to post negative replies here... or is it that anyone who suggests Doug desrves a little reward for this site would get pounced upon???

I wonder.... hmmmmm???

Have a nice evening ladies!

shees! David, you are really a pizza work.

Natalie Ann

Oh yes he ALWAYS does---twisted and or political as it may be.

Diane

Yup, JR and I had some great laughs about some of you who take yourselves way too seriously here... like a post was life or death and a deleted post caused you to get so mad you left Nomad forever... funny stuff. Those who thought making Mexico more like America being a good thing was really 'rich' to JR as well!

Better to do.. here on Nomad?: My first love is to write travel reports/ trip stories... my second is to help Baja Nomads (Amigos before) to meet and exchange friendship... my hird is just to enjoy open discussion about Baja or other travels. Is that really childish? Okay, than so be it.

Your original question has been answered many times in many ways... but I guess that still wan't enough times? See my opening post... it is here in the SUGGESTIONS forum. I posted a suggestion to give something back to Baja Nomad and Doug gave me an address link to post for anyone who would like to give a tip.

Good night ladies (and gentlemen)!

Oh, to Comitan, Diver, Natalie Ann, MtGoat666, jdtrotter and any other members of the 'anti DK club': I am sorry!... I still love you all and know you too will see the light of goodness and begin posting good and useful things about Baja without posting bad things about fellow Nomads will come one day!

SKEET, is that you? Anon the preacher?

This is rich.

Diver, I knew JR, JR was a friend of mine... you are no JR Baja!

Seriously, please stop the hate... If you don't like it here and dislike someone for helping Nomad, why stay miserable... find a happy place for you... I hope you decide to be nice and hang around, however...

Witnesses to jrbaja and I being friends in this photo include Baja Nomad, Baja Bernie, Jesse, BajaCactus... and yes, I was at his and Carol's place more than once...

[Edited on 9-29-2008 by David K]

Never said I was, never wanted to be JR; I like me just fine.

You just keep telling yourself that JR liked you.

"Hate" ? I don't hate children; I try to teach children; some won't learn.

Leave Nomad because of YOU ?

I am already in my happy place, Child.

Now when are you going to stop your LIES and JUSTIFICATIONS ??

Maybe another last word from the Child ??

.

Starting to sound like DK now.
Where did I call you a newbie ?
Getting defensive and offensive at the same time ?

And you call me a marooon again ?
I will certainly NOT buy you a beer in future !

Ah, you have a life but here you are giving me grief for what ?
.

[Edited on 9-29-2008 by Diver]

So big whoop, 35 posts in 5 years> WOW, you really are big part of this place. Lurker would suit your title, no? That's not a bad word I don't think . It just says something about you. You stopped posting when JR croaked. Por que?


David, you ain't no Lloyd Benson either. Please stop with the politics . It may seem funny to you but when you talk down your nose it demeans and detracts.

Hey Fishbuck, my screen says 4 pages. Shoot, I better get busy!

DK, are you honestly this obtuse, or could you sincerely have a reading comprehension problem?

I know this is a waste of my time, but I'll try to get through to one last time (Wiley, you're authorized to shoot me if I ever try to get through his thick skull ever again!)

DK, IMO, you have an uncanny ability to not read the words people write to you. You appear to selectively pick & choose at your convenience. I don't believe that there is an "anti-dk club". I do believe there are some people who are willing to speak out when you post outrageous comments or ideas. Why can't you simply accept that as feedback? Feedback is something that comes back to you because of what you originally said or how you said it. A lot of people accept feedback as constructive criticism. When several people give you similar feedback, over time most people eventually come to the realization that there might possibly be a reason all these people have made similar comments to them & listen to the comments & look back at what they've written & look within themselves to see if maybe, just maybe, they're bringing negative responses on themselves through their words & how they express themselves.

For example, you DID address that message to comitan & you DID say "Instead of complaining, how about contributing?" so you were saying that to comitan. If you meant all Nomads, then you should have said all Nomads. Clarification after the fact is a little late & it comes across to me as an excuse! You DO owe comitan an apology....as Diver has brought to your attention in not one, but TWO subsequent posts, and you continue to try to explain your original words away rather than admitting your mistake like a man & apologizing, you repeatedly come back with more childish excuses for what you meant to say!

When reading through your last response, I suddenly had an OMG moment!!

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Oh, to Comitan, Diver, Natalie Ann, MtGoat666, jdtrotter and any other members of the 'anti DK club': I am sorry!... I still love you all and know you too will see the light of goodness and begin posting good and useful things about Baja without posting bad things about fellow Nomads will come one day!

For starters, I was crushed to be left out of the "lineup"! But it dawned on me that in your mind there is an honest to gawd correlation between calling you on something you post & their overall value of contributions to the Board as a whole. They can respond positively to hundreds of threads, they can help perfect strangers just because they ask for information or help....but once they criticize you, that in some way in your mind diminishes all their other contributions to the Board?? That's a totally ludicrous thought process, yet that's what your words conveyed to me.

So even though you didn't address the question to me by name, yes, it's you. It's how you phrase things, it's how you can insult without ever apologizing, you bring it on yourself & you escalate it because you resort to childish name calling & excuses to avoid simply swallowing your pride, admitting you were wrong & offering an honest apology.

You started this thread, you got negative responses, rather than accepting how others felt, you came back with lectures & attempting to shame people who didn't agree with you. And you don't expect people to respond in like??

I don't care about your trip reports, but I DO care when you kick into immature mode & attempt to invalidate, minimize or belittle other people's contributions to this board through your tit-for-tat responses when anyone has a differing opinion or calls you on something you've written.

Read the words David, I'm sincerely trying to be honest & get through to you that you bring on the grief you get through your own words. This is NOT an attack, it's my final attempt at constructive criticism; my final attempt to get you to understand your wound is self-inflicted. Mine will be inflicted by Wiley if I address you again!

LL, you are wise beyond your leg length.
You have expressed it all very well.
Many of us have tried before but I wish you luck in your attempt.
And thank you for trying.

Maybe Wiley would agree to a 2'fer for me too ?

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Originally posted by David K Oh, to Comitan, Diver, Natalie Ann, MtGoat666, jdtrotter and any other members of the 'anti DK club': I am sorry!... I still love you all and know you too will see the light of goodness and begin posting good and useful things about Baja without posting bad things about fellow Nomads will come one day!

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Originally posted by Diver LL, you are wise beyond your leg length. You have expressed it all very well. Many of us have tried before but I wish you luck in your attempt. And thank you for trying. Maybe Wiley would agree to a 2'fer for me too ?

What Diver said.....
except for that last part. I won't make promises I may not be able to keep.
I will sign up for that aromatherapy class which seems to have been so helpful to Diver.

Nena

One big family, not neccesarily happy.

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz DK, IMO, you have an uncanny ability to not read the words people write to you. You appear to selectively pick & choose at your convenience. I don't believe that there is an "anti-dk club". I do believe there are some people who are willing to speak out when you post outrageous comments or ideas. Why can't you simply accept that as feedback? Feedback is something that comes back to you because of what you originally said or how you said it. A lot of people accept feedback as constructive criticism. When several people give you similar feedback, over time most people eventually come to the realization that there might possibly be a reason all these people have made similar comments to them & listen to the comments & look back at what they've written & look within themselves to see if maybe, just maybe, they're bringing negative responses on themselves through their words & how they express themselves. You started this thread, you got negative responses, rather than accepting how others felt, you came back with lectures & attempting to shame people who didn't agree with you. And you don't expect people to respond in like?? Read the words David, I'm sincerely trying to be honest & get through to you that you bring on the grief you get through your own words. This is NOT an attack, it's my final attempt at constructive criticism; my final attempt to get you to understand your wound is self-inflicted. Mine will be inflicted by Wiley if I address you again!

Crips.. er I mean Chris

You really seem aggresive towards anyone who happens to love Mulege, whether that be on the rio or not.

Your flaming of Tony was typical of your wanton meanderings. You've lurked for five years and now you are going to comment on my contributions here. Go for it!
I guess you are a bad lurker who did not do his homework, You should get busy and read some of those thousands of posts I've made. You might might have an epiphany. Nah...

That way you wouldn't appear to have two feet in your mouth when you make such sweeping statements. I'm not much to toot my own horn but I can if the need warrants it.
It not an ego thing like you suggest, rather the desire and consequent rewards for doing stuff for this group has faded with the addition of lurkers/flamers like you joining the fray for some unbeknownst reason

Should I quote some of your past childish rants? The percentage of crap you post runs about 90% imho.

I give this place a wee bit of my energy, so what, so sorry you think it's more. Why don't you make a post that has some Baja relevance rather than to act so profound because what you.........what, live in Loreto?

Look, if you can show you've contributed anythang to BN worthy I'd love to hear it otherwise STFU.


[Edited on 9-29-2008 by Sharksbaja]

FEEL THE LOVE!

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Originally posted by jdtrotter Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 Quote: Originally posted by David K So, I am wondering is it me, the reason for you 'anti-DKers' to post negative replies here... or is it that anyone who suggests Doug desrves a little reward for this site would get pounced upon??? it's you. DK, you need to be more tolerant, and less sanctimonious -- and remember you don't always need to have the last word Oh yes he ALWAYS does---twisted and or political as it may be. Diane

Going shopping now--yes, for Baja

As Ralph Kramden used to say, "One of these days, Alice...... "

Nena

Check is in the mail.(Mexican), with the stipulation: "redeem within 10 days"

DK you have to realize we are contributing right now, the number of posts on this forum equal money to Doug; so we are helping in our own little way, as you are too. We probably shouldn't discuss this but when you click on an advertiser it generates more income.(cheating)?

[Edited on 9-29-2008 by comitan]

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Originally posted by comitan DK you have to realize we are contributing right now, the number of posts on this forum equal money to Doug; so we are helping in our own little way, as you are too. We probably shouldn't discuss this but when you click on an advertiser it generates more income.(cheating)? [Edited on 9-29-2008 by comitan]

You being very friendly with Doug, I trust you know his feelings as well as anyone. What you just said above is the site is at risk without additional revenue coming in. So that would be a yes from my original question. Thanks for answering, albeit you also said no in the same post.



Ken

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Originally posted by comitan DK you have to realize we are contributing right now, the number of posts on this forum equal money to Doug; so we are helping in our own little way, as you are too. We probably shouldn't discuss this but when you click on an advertiser it generates more income.(cheating)?

maybe DK should get paid for every post he creates. and given that each Dk post cause 10 additional posts to counter DK, if DK were also paid for every related post, DK would be rich

you can learn allot about some of the folks here at Baja Nomad from a thread like this

You can sure tell who reads/ replies with facts vs. who reads/ replies with emotions!




Doug, if you are not going to add anything or correct anything posted here... how about closing this thread?

OK, how about if I have the last word???


WORD



Now that we have that taken care of, I see a horse being carried by angels into heaven...

Diver, I can't be any nicer to you than I have with all the name calling you have done... Let it go, you don't like me, no matter what... that's your only responce or reaction to call names... instead of letting this end? If you are too cheap to tip Nomad for all this free 'fun' you find here, then I don't understand your need to advertise that by all the negativity you post ..

Abe Lincoln might say: You can't please all the people all the time and DK can't please Diver most anytime!

Bon Voyage

So anyone who doesn't agree with the child to give money to Doug is cheap ?
Make sense to me, child.

Always responding with an insult - the CHILD's way.

Just like I said " He hates me .... "
Just becasue I don't like the way you have handled this post does not mean that I am cheap or that I do not contribute.

You DARE accuse Trotters of misreading ...?
Accept some of your own judgement, CHILD; it had been offered by many.

Too bad gringo, it was a nice thought but will never happen with the child.
.

Okay, DK, now it's your turn again.

OK donkeys.....just send ME some money and I will make good use of it and be your friend....

Catman;

Sorry you decided to go away mad.
Coco is a good cause but your attempt to redirect this thread with his photo was bound to fail.
It really has nothing to do with Dk's original post, does it ?

This has nothing to do with 'precious space" so don't get your panties bunched up.
Seems that you may be taking reading comprehension lessons from DK.
Also his habits of removing posts when he feels challenged even though you were not.
Make a new post of the thread and you will likely get a better response.
Are you taking the money or where does it go ?
How about some REAL info ?

"Seems Mr Means not only owns Baja Nomad, but he owns the web hosting business, Q87 International as well as at least one other Baja related web site."

thot so. figures. no wonder Means never chimed in here with a plea to help him with a bailout.
he has the good sense to not push it. he's doing fine and this is a nice little enterprise kicker.
just as i postured from the get go.
but hey....if you want to DONATE $$ to a obviously solvent going concern please carry on!

Golly you guys sure can twist up my post! LOL

Doug is not in a financial crisis I am aware of. The SUGGESTION I made was to give the guy a tip for good service and encourage hime to keep the site online. Show your appreciation... that's all.

With some extra cash, I added that he may be able to get those big tee shirt sizes many of you asked for, etc.

No plea, no bailout, where do get this stuff?

Have a nice day... and if you get good service, it is a custom to tip the server. Waiting tables usually is a minimum wage job and they do get taxed at 15% of the bill rather you tip or not. Doug's income from this site is probably like the waitress getting minimum wage... keeps the site online, but nothing extra for Doug's good service... and not enough to invest in buying more Nomad stuff for the Tienda.

Are we understanding this amigos?