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" 2010 SANTA MARIA MISSION NOMAD RAID(CANCEL DUE TO BAD WEATHER)..

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BAJACAT - 1-22-2010 at 07:20 AM

Bob , i think the problem, with rigs like ours(full size RAM) is the length. Your truck is a little bit longer than mine you, but their will be plenty of room in TW and my truck..But DK is more qualify to answer your q's since he has been there alot times...

David K - 1-22-2010 at 09:36 AM

Bob, all vehicles should expect something to get damaged or broken... ALL vehicles.

Both of my last two Tacomas had got a dent in the lower side, below the doors, from coming down on a boulder. My last Tacoma got the trailer electric hook up broken (it is mounted on the bottom of the bumper) and I lost one of the mud flaps.

Anything longer than my Tacoma can expect more dents in the underside as you all will come down on rocks or the road since there are many steep drop-offs or high points. This is an ideal road for Jeep CJs or lifted Wranglers with oversized tires... just like the Rubicon road near Lake Tahoe.

That all being said, I STRONGLY suggest you look at BajaRoadrunner's two short YouTube videos (I posted links to, as did he)... Fullsize pickups and Hummers have been in there and got out... So, sure you can do it... But, it is steep where you won't see the ground in front of you many places and will want a spotter to help with tire placement.

Elizabeth and I have the days off and devoted for the run (she likes that road that much, as a former Jeep CJ-5 owner and Rubicon trail runner)... The only thing that could be an issue is my work being so dead (with this rain & economy) to justify the 'luxury' of a vacation!

Hope you come down, and at least try... Some with trucks (or affraid) park at the top of the Widowmaker and walk (or you could hitch a ride with others) the final mile+ to the mission. Going down the Widowmaker is not so bad, other than the big rocks you drive over... It is wondering how you will be able to drive back up it, that has many stay on the top.

Cyanide41 - 1-22-2010 at 09:36 AM

widdow maker scares me, Did I read something about expecting a little paint damage? My poor truck has taken enough abuse.

David K - 1-22-2010 at 09:41 AM

It scares me too... the same way as a giant roller coaster at Magic Mountain scares me... After I do it, I want to do it again!

Remember, the event that gave it the name 'Widowmaker' was my first time trying to climb it, on a quad with BajaMur on a m/c... We were both bounced off our rides and got our hands/ arms bloody on the rocks!

BajaRoadrunner - 1-22-2010 at 10:21 AM

Is it raining all the way south to Cataviña? I'm scared of the swamp more than the "widowmaker".

David K - 1-22-2010 at 10:29 AM

This was on the Storm Watch thread this morning:

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posted on 1-22-2010 at 08:05 AM

Just got off the radio w/ Ralph XE2/N6MNO at Rancho Santa Ines (3945mHz) who reported a 24 hr rain total of 3.29" and a storm total of 5.1" - YEE HAW! Looks like it's gonna be a beautiful spring in the Baja desert this year!

BajaRoadrunner - 1-22-2010 at 10:31 AM

Yeah, I already read the storm watch post regarding Rancho Santa Inez.

No que no, ya sabía!

We are going unless it rains on that weekend. The desert is going to be beautiful, real colorful.

My San Pedro Martir trip on the 30th is another story.

[Edited on 1-22-2010 by BajaRoadrunner]

David K - 1-22-2010 at 10:39 AM

Those tires on that Cherokee of yours looks like they could go through the bog with no problem!

BAJACAT - 1-22-2010 at 01:35 PM

Im looking at the weather too, all that rain is going to make a big diff, in the arroyo pools in SMM, little water doesn't scare me. I hope all the rds down south Ensenada are repair by then, according to local news , San Vicente's bridge was whipe out...and Santo Domingo's bridge is next.
For sure the Catavina desert is going to be blooming...

TMW - 1-22-2010 at 06:54 PM

This is getting to be a very exciting trip. Flood waters across the hwy at Catavina. We may get in and not out. I think I'll pack a little more food and my backpak. Ken and his Jeep friends may have to come after us.

Bob you can leave your truck at Santa Ines or drive it to the widowmaker and park it there and ride in with us. Which ever make you feel a little easier.

Man I hope this won't be a problem for us on FEB 12

BAJACAT - 1-22-2010 at 08:31 PM

Baja Highway unpassable in some areas...Jan 22, 2010

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this information is already here, if so I apologize in advance.

There are several places of Highway 1 unpassable at the moment, due to the heavy rains:

-- The bridge at Las Animas has collapsed.
-- The bridge at San Vicente was also affected.
-- Apparently, the bridge at Colonet has also been damaged.
-- The bridge in Col. Guerrero is damaged.
-- The bridge in El Rosario has partially collapsed... many stranded people south of it... food supplies are being delivered with ropes over it.

Normal communications with the San Quintin area are unavailable at the moment... no phone services, no cellular, no internet (only Movistar services are available in some areas). TelNor and Telcel have dispatched technicians via air to attempt repairs.

Even though crew repairs have been sent to repair the road, it seems they are working their way from the North, therefore there have been no time frames mentioned for completion... I do not know, but common sense would suggest that the water flowing in those rivers has to subside before attempting repairs... this could delay the repair crews.

If you plan to travel to Baja in the next days, it would be wise to wait a little bit and see how things develop.

Hope this info is helpful.

Antonio Munoz
BajaCactus

[Edited on 1-22-2010 by BajaCactus]

David K - 1-23-2010 at 05:59 AM

Well, I think they will have things passable in a week or less... But, more wet weather may be in store... so we can just keep watching. Cold and wet is no fun... If we need to try again, then summertime may be the better time?

wilderone - 1-23-2010 at 08:36 AM

Certainly adds a little more adventure to the trip. I was planning on heading south after the mision escapade. How could the El Rosario bridge collapse?

David K - 1-23-2010 at 09:47 AM

Any bridge can be washed out... if the ground it is built upon is no longer there (ie. flash floods enlarge the arroyo sideways or deeper).

Hope all can be fixed soon!

[Edited on 1-23-2010 by David K]

Bridge at El Rosario

El Comadante Loco - 1-23-2010 at 11:28 AM

When the road was completed to La Paz in the early in the 70"s around 75-76 there was a storm just a strong as this past one. The bridge at El Rosario was completely washed out. People had to wait several days on either side for the water level to drop. Once it was low enough tractors were used to tow vehicles across.. Nature will always take it the course of least resistance.
Looking forward to Santa Maria, Plan to get to Santa Inez early afternoon will be camp there Friday night. Look for 95 Nissan pick up. Come by for a drink...

BAJACAT - 1-24-2010 at 10:09 AM

ATTENTION ALL NOMADS, THAT WHERE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS TRIP, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK, I DON'T WANT TO PUT NOBODY IN DANGER, THE DAMAGE LOOKS VERY INTENSIVE, AND THE TRIP IS ONLY A FEW WEEKS LEFT.MAYBE LIKE DK SAID WE CAN DO IT IN SUMMERTIME , THEIR IS MORE RAIN COMMING UP AND DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR THE TRIP, IM NOT CHICKEN OUT BUT LETS BE REALISTIC ABOUT, I NEED YOUR INPUT ON THIS, SO LETS HEAR SOME OPINION'S

TMW - 1-24-2010 at 10:48 AM

Bajacat I'm with you and DK. WE should re-evaluate the situation in the coming week or two and see how things are. Either way is OK with me. I'm retiring effective April 1st so anytime after that gives me more time to play or be stranded. Maybe walk into astrobaja's place and be stranded with him if he's not out by then.

woody with a view - 1-24-2010 at 10:51 AM

if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done!

Baja12valve - 1-24-2010 at 11:02 AM

For me, later is better. As a member of Search and Rescue, I have a conflict with a 3 day training on snow and ice. I have been sitting in the weeds, waiting for to see if we will really be doing it or not, it is not easy to schedule, just like this trip. If my training is a go, I am out, if not, I am in. A bit later is better as Spring will be in full force and the weather will be that much warmer, maybe even swimming warm.

El Comadante Loco - 1-24-2010 at 11:43 AM

I agree that safety is paramount that said I still plan on going and giving it a try.. If it looks to dangerous I wont risk it.. It is always good to be in the Baja. Just hope it does not rain that weekend and if it does Ni Modo... Still looking forward to Santa Maria...

Please post if this trip will be canceled or not... Definitely I would not try this alone....

woody with a view - 1-24-2010 at 12:02 PM

you guys actually expect a bypass around 4 bridges in 2 weeks? it seems like the rain machine is slowing down but far from running outta gas!

[Edited on 1-24-2010 by woody in ob]

El Comadante Loco - 1-24-2010 at 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
you guys actually expect a bypass around 4 bridges in 2 weeks? it seems like the rain machine is slowing down but far from running outta gas!

[Edited on 1-24-2010 by woody in ob]

Yes, I expect there to be a bypass around all the bridges. Now this may wash out again with more rain, but as before another bypass will be built. This is nothing new for Baja. The road is the life and commerce line of Baja.
When Hurricane Nora hit San Felipe the road was washed out in several places and until the road was repaired a bypass was constructed around the wash outs.
I am not overly concerned about the wash outs unless there is a river running. That's what 4 wheel drive is for :cool:

. I am more concerned about the condition of the road to the mission and the widow-maker..

woody with a view - 1-24-2010 at 03:20 PM

i get it.... i wrote that after looking at the raging waters under the El Ros bridge and before the caterpillar tractor dragging cars thread....

we're going, but somewhere else!

[Edited on 1-24-2010 by woody in ob]

El Comadante Loco - 1-24-2010 at 03:29 PM

As we know it's better to be in Baja than hanging around here.. Where are you going?? If I can not make it to the mission there is always San Felipe and Gonzaga... BTW the road is now paved past Puertecitos up and down and past Huerfanito with the exception of the bridge... The views are spectacular and the scenery will rival that of the drive through Conception Bay..

BAJACAT - 1-24-2010 at 03:48 PM

COMANDANTE, going around Gonzaga will more miles and we only have a weedend to do this trip, most off us have to come back Monday, soi if conditions don't get better in the next 2 weeks, this trip will not be happining.Lets wait for the next storm that is coming in tuesday to see the outcome, and will take from there, I agree with Woody (you guys actually expect a bypass around 4 bridges in 2 weeks? it seems like the rain machine is slowing down but far from running outta gas!),if the trip will be cancel unless people want to go by them selfs. Remember Baja Will be there after all this goes away, thanks for your understanding, will report later.

David K - 1-24-2010 at 04:28 PM

10-4, the mission has been there for over 240 years... it will be there after February, if things are not improved enough for us to go.

BAJACAT - 1-24-2010 at 04:32 PM

David we can all go to San felipe and do the run over there, just and idea..

El Comadante Loco - 1-24-2010 at 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by BAJACAT
COMANDANTE, going around Gonzaga will more miles and we only have a weedend to do this trip, most off us have to come back Monday, soi if conditions don't get better in the next 2 weeks, this trip will not be happining.Lets wait for the next storm that is coming in tuesday to see the outcome, and will take from there, I agree with Woody (you guys actually expect a bypass around 4 bridges in 2 weeks? it seems like the rain machine is slowing down but far from running outta gas!),if the trip will be cancel unless people want to go by them selfs. Remember Baja Will be there after all this goes away, thanks for your understanding, will report later.

Sorry if my message was not clear. I meant going to San Felipe and Gonzaga in leiu of the mission. If this trip is canceled, I have plenty of room for everyone in San Felipe, We can use my house and couple of trailers as a base camp to ride, fish, explore or just hang out.. If people want to camp out I have 100mts of beach front at Matomi that Nomads are welcome to use gratis...

Let's hope the rain lets up...

David K - 1-24-2010 at 09:51 PM

Where approx. is your place Loco?

We have done the President's Day 'Matomi' Event from El Camote's in El Dorado Ranch (2001), in Nuevo Mazatlan (2004), and at Baja Warrior's at Bahia Santa Maria the last times (I missed those)...

El Comadante Loco - 1-24-2010 at 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Where approx. is your place Loco?

We have done the President's Day 'Matomi' Event from El Camote's in El Dorado Ranch (2001), in Nuevo Mazatlan (2004), and at Baja Warrior's at Bahia Santa Maria the last times (I missed those)...

BTW, Tunaeater, my son and I, were with you guys on the 2004 Matmoi ride.

Thanks for the reminder.. forgot to include it in my post. My house is located at k43 campo San Antonio. Turn left at the R U Lost sign just past K43 go up the small hill , turn right and you are at the trailers and the house. Look for the white old Trooper with the rear wheel off.. If you get to K44 you went to far..

The beach available for camping is located in Matomi south of

Latitude:30.46656 Longitude:-114.63605 GPS location

The access road to the beach for camping is past about 2km past the Pozo which is at k60 at:

Latitude:30.47365 Longitude:-114.66169 You will note a rock painted white with a red bulls eye on the left side of the road as you head south. Turn left here

I hope I did not invert these....

wilderone - 1-25-2010 at 10:47 AM

So BAJACAT, what's the prognosis of this trip? Wait and see? If there is 14 days sun after this week's storm (and hopefully not more than, say, 1/2 inch this time, I think might be "go". What do you think the 13 miles to the mission is like now? You know that arroyo got totally filled up - maybe eroded some of the vados (cross-feeding streams en route) and uphill out of the dips to expose more rock. I would be a passenger, regardless. But for you all with the guts and gears, is there a Plan B? Is anyone able to contact Raph Schoonmaker who lives in the arroyo to ask about conditions?

Baja12valve - 1-25-2010 at 11:06 AM

Good old Ralph. He bailed me out big time when my fan hit my radiator and ripped it open. I did not have enough epoxy to fix it and he had some. He was a real help.

BajaRoadrunner - 1-25-2010 at 11:46 AM

:no:

I'm still up for it, the byspass for the bridges will be there for sure.
I'm concerned a little bit with the arroyos on the way to SMM, specially the bog after the widowmaker.

I'll wait and see.

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2010 at 12:29 PM

What about that new "drop-off" at the bottom of that nasty hill? That will be your nemesis. All the arroyos will have new sharp banks. Road building may be necessary. Perhaps before you go down you should walk it completely. It would be a real bummer to have to back up that mother.

Ken Cooke - 1-25-2010 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
What about that new "drop-off" at the bottom of that nasty hill?

There's a new "Drop-Off?" Has anyone seen this, or is this just desert lore?

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2010 at 12:34 PM

Conjecture Ken. After big events like this arroyos can change dramatically.

Ken Cooke - 1-25-2010 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Conjecture Ken. After big events like this arroyos can change dramatically.

I agree. But, while in Guerrero Negro receiving big rains, MSM recieved barely any [11/08]. That's why I doubt any real rain could have damaged this region. I like to just wait and see rather than rule out an entire run somebody's trying to set up.

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2010 at 12:40 PM

No, I wouldn't go that far as to cancel, just be prepared for suprises. Someone just noted how big the arroyos were running thru Catavina.

Ken Cooke - 1-25-2010 at 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Someone just noted how big the arroyos were running thru Catavina.

The rains probably caused more damage closer to the entrance to the MSM trail than on the actual trail due to its location to the 'Cortez.

While our group was in Guerrero Negro we got poured on - even in Cataviña, we had steady rains.

Some standing water, but steady rains followed that evening all the way up Hwy 1.

The rain clouds all broke up over the 'Cortez and just floated away...

The best part of it was the absence of dust on the trail that day.

The rock crawling was 1st rate that day! :bounce:

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2010 at 01:20 PM

Yeah Ken that bottom pic says it all

FUN!

BajaRob - 1-25-2010 at 01:28 PM

David, El Comadante Loco is Rudy, Pauls Dad

David K - 1-25-2010 at 03:45 PM

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Oh yes... HI Rudy! I talked to you at the final turkey fest at Baja Lou's (a year ago) and we went and saw the new beach lot 'Playa Nomad' or was it 'Camp Whenever-you-want' by Punta San Fermin... good directions! I posted photos at your new beach lot in my 1-09 trip report here on Nomad.

David K - 1-25-2010 at 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by BajaRob
David, El Comadante Loco is Rudy, Pauls Dad

Thanks Rob!

El Comadante Loco - 1-25-2010 at 04:27 PM

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And I thought I could hide my identity forever.... Hi David.
Yes we did talk at Baja Lou's last year. Like usual I got there kind of late.. Those were some good turkey fiestas, met some interesting people and other Nomads.
There remains a standing invitation for all Nomads to camp gratis on my beach lot at Matomi..
BTW we just got the name for our Mexcian Corporation AKA
Sociedad Anonima approved by the Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores. We are now "Rancho Matomi Enterprises"..

bajalou - 1-25-2010 at 05:05 PM

That's great Rudy. Things take a while but sometimes get done.

El Comondante Loco (Rudy)

David K - 1-25-2010 at 05:25 PM

In 2004 with Mike Humfreville, Azufre Pass:

with son Paul (tunaeater) at Matomi Falls Oasis:

In 2009 with 'bajalou':

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His beach lot at Punta San Fermin:

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by David K]

BAJACAT - 1-25-2010 at 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by wilderone
So BAJACAT, what's the prognosis of this trip? Wait and see? If there is 14 days sun after this week's storm (and hopefully not more than, say, 1/2 inch this time, I think might be "go". What do you think the 13 miles to the mission is like now? You know that arroyo got totally filled up - maybe eroded some of the vados (cross-feeding streams en route) and uphill out of the dips to expose more rock. I would be a passenger, regardless. But for you all with the guts and gears, is there a Plan B? Is anyone able to contact Raph Schoonmaker who lives in the arroyo to ask about conditions?

I guess we can wait till mid-next week to make a final, decision. As now I think is a go , just be a little more prepare I have digging bars and shovels, for any possible rd hazzards. We will not know if we don't try it...

ps. when I said San Felipe, I meant to change the ride to The San Felipe area, to go around SF to Gonzaga on to Chapala-Mex 1, it would make a great trip but also will add alot miles and time is the problem.

wilderone - 1-26-2010 at 10:16 AM

ok - I'm still "in" and bringing a shovel.

Neal Johns - 1-26-2010 at 10:20 AM

Accuweather.com shows the next storm (today in USA) is not so big in Ensenada and El Rosario BUT starting 7 Feb. there are several days of rain in Ensenada and El Rosario. Sigh. The Swamp is waiting, waiting.... :lol:

Many thanks to my hero in El Rosario who has done so much for so many gringos, Antonio Munoz, a.k.a. BajaCactus.

Possible Re-Route Route

Ken Cooke - 1-26-2010 at 12:16 PM

After reading the 'Stranded' and 'Caida delos Puentes' threads, I now understand how bad things are in getting to Cataviña. That said, I would suggest the following:

1. Travel Hwy 5 south to Laguna Chapala (gassing/stocking up at Gonzaga Bay Pemex).

2. Travel north to Santa Inez - begin run/have fun.

3. Return to Gonzaga Bay after fun/run, return home. :bounce:

Boy, that sounds like an adventure in the making!! Wish I were going along...(work schedule)

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Ken Cooke]

BAJACAT - 1-26-2010 at 09:55 PM

Ken we still have next week to change plans, but Im still looking foward for the SMM trip...

TMW - 1-27-2010 at 07:51 AM

I'm still in too. It looks like they will have hwy 1 open all the way down with bypasses around the bridges that are down. I am interested in seeing how much water is in crossings down to the mission.

David K - 1-27-2010 at 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
After reading the 'Stranded' and 'Caida delos Puentes' threads, I now understand how bad things are in getting to Cataviña. That said, I would suggest the following:

1. Travel Hwy 5 south to Laguna Chapala (gassing/stocking up at Gonzaga Bay Pemex).

2. Travel north to Santa Inez - begin run/have fun.

3. Return to Gonzaga Bay after fun/run, return home. :bounce:

Boy, that sounds like an adventure in the making!! Wish I were going along...(work schedule)

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Ken Cooke]

Gonzaga Pemex is not an option at last report... Going the long way around via Gonzga will add 6+ hours to the drive to Santa Ynez (from San Diego) vs. going direct via El Rosario.

Naturally, if today's rain isn't heavy down there and there is no more between now and then, Using Hwy. 1 the whole way won't be a problem... detours will be well in place (as Antonio posted last night).

However, MORE rain is precicted in a few days... at least for San Diego...

Just FYI

PS, Even it it was totally dry down there, with the lack of work due to weather (and economy), we are most likely not going. You got to know I really want to... but the rains in the area filling the bog just add to the other issues. We wnt to try the new Tacoma in there, so will re-schedule our trip for later... unless some really good jobs come my way and the weather stays dry!

El Comadante Loco - 1-27-2010 at 09:41 AM

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I'm still in too. It looks like they will have hwy 1 open all the way down with bypasses around the bridges that are down. I am interested in seeing how much water is in crossings down to the mission.

Bright and sunny today in El Centro.. I am still in... of course depending on what the rain does.. David hope you can make it...

David K - 1-27-2010 at 09:46 AM

Thanks Rudy! Pray for me to get some work... and dry weather, too! I really want to go and 'break in' the new Tacoma!!!

wilderone - 1-27-2010 at 09:47 AM

BAJACAT - maybe a head count at this point? Drivers/passengers? Caravaners from SD? BajaCactus hotel people?

Neal Johns - 1-27-2010 at 06:57 PM

Looks like a GO for Neal and Marian Johns. Current forecast is only one day of rain in El Rosario before we go.

BAJACAT - 1-27-2010 at 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by wilderone
BAJACAT - maybe a head count at this point? Drivers/passengers? Caravaners from SD? BajaCactus hotel people?

Wild, as today Im riding solo, the wife still thinking about it. So thats 1 on my side, if David goes i will Caravan with him all the way to el Rosario, TW is leaving on thursday, and I think is driving all the Way to Rancho Santa Ynez...As far as Bajacactus I dont know how many people are staying there, what about you Neal are you going to meet us there(Catavina)..

ps. David, im in the same boat, when it rain I didn't work for a week but I was saving my Vacations hrs, so thats some help..

KurtG - 1-27-2010 at 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by BAJACAT

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Originally posted by wilderone
BAJACAT - maybe a head count at this point? Drivers/passengers? Caravaners from SD? BajaCactus hotel people?

I'm still planning to be camped overnight at Santa Ynez Friday night unless the trip gets canceled in which case I'll spend a couple more days in Mulege before riding back.
Kurt

Neal Johns - 1-27-2010 at 08:49 PM

I plan to camp Friday night in Santa Inez.
Neal and Marian

El Comadante Loco - 1-27-2010 at 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by BAJACAT

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Originally posted by wilderone
BAJACAT - maybe a head count at this point? Drivers/passengers? Caravanners from SD? Baja Cactus hotel people?

Wild, as today Im riding solo, the wife still thinking about it. So that's 1 on my side, if David goes i will Caravan with him all the way to el Rosario, TW is leaving on thursday, and I think is driving all the Way to Rancho Santa Ynez...As far as Bajacactus I dont know how many people are staying there, what about you Neal are you going to meet us there(Catavina)..

ps. David, im in the same boat, when it rain I didn't work for a week but I was saving my Vacations hrs, so that's some help..

Sounds like the trip is go and I am ready to go NOW!!!.. My plan is to pick Fred in SD on Thursday and drive down to Camalu, talk to Lee Moreno about fishing on the way back and spend the night there or ??? May go as far as El Rosario depending on time and weather. Will get to Santa Inez early Friday afternoon and camp there carne asada, chiles, torillas and beans for dinner come over an have a plate if not to late...

BAJACAT - 1-27-2010 at 09:15 PM

Ok at this time is KurtG, Neal, El comandante Loco will reach Rancho Santa Ynez by friday Feb-12. If David K can make the trip I will try to make it to RSY, by friday. Wilderone, when are you living for RSY.

Bob H - 1-27-2010 at 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Hope you come down, and at least try... Some with trucks (or affraid) park at the top of the Widowmaker and walk (or you could hitch a ride with others) the final mile+ to the mission. Going down the Widowmaker is not so bad, other than the big rocks you drive over... It is wondering how you will be able to drive back up it, that has many stay on the top.

This sounds thrilling! Bob H

David K - 1-28-2010 at 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by BAJACAT
Ok at this time is KurtG, Neal, El comandante Loco will reach Rancho Santa Ynez by friday Feb-12. If David K can make the trip I will try to make it to RSY, by friday. Wilderone, when are you living for RSY.

Jose, before you said you were staying at Baja Cactus Friday night... ?

If we are able to go, we will stay at Baja Cactus Friday night and Sunday night... Go to Santa Ynez by 10 am Saturday... Arrive at Santa Maria about 1 pm, camp that night, and head out by NOON on Sunday... Plenty of time to explore the mission, oasis, El Camino Real, Petroglyphs, Indian trail to Gonzaga... Saturday afternoon and/ or Sunday morning.

If there are issues with any of the vehicles on the way in, we will have 4 hours of daylight beyond the typical slow drive time to resolve them. (pulling someone up a steep grade, or transferring cargo to another pickup if someone gives up and parks their rig for the night, etc.)

BajaRoadrunner - 1-28-2010 at 08:18 PM

We plan on driving all the way to Santa Ynez and camp there Friday night but it depends on how tired I get. I have to work at least during the morning.

BAJACAT - 1-28-2010 at 09:54 PM

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David, what I meant was ,If you go I will stay at BC, if you don't go i will try to make it to Santa Ynez by Friday.

David K - 1-29-2010 at 09:55 AM

LOL! It was you saying your wife wants to stay at Baja Cactus that gave me the idea of doing that! Baja Angel agrees! No need to make camp twice... packing up the tent and air mattress takes awhile.

Remember, BajaCactus (Antonio) is doing a special treat and offereing last year's rates for Nomads staying there Friday night.

TMW - 1-29-2010 at 06:44 PM

What an air mattress, oh my, I thought this was a roughing it trip. I was planning on sleeping on the ground the way the padres did. I was giving Neal and his wife a break with the camper since she was driving in. Guess I may rethink it now.

David K - 1-29-2010 at 06:51 PM

The only roughing it will be the road!

El Comadante Loco - 1-29-2010 at 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by TW
What an air mattress, oh my, I thought this was a roughing it trip. I was planning on sleeping on the ground the way the padres did. I was giving Neal and his wife a break with the camper since she was driving in. Guess I may rethink it now.

No mas ground for me, too old and my bones hurt on the ground.. I need my mattress. Now, I will say that I have seen TW lived it up easy style and check into a motel...

Neal Johns - 1-29-2010 at 08:25 PM

They let TW in a motel? No! What next? :lol:

BAJACAT - 1-29-2010 at 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by David K
LOL! It was you saying your wife wants to stay at Baja Cactus that gave me the idea of doing that! Baja Angel agrees! No need to make camp twice... packing up the tent and air mattress takes awhile.

Remember, BajaCactus (Antonio) is doing a special treat and offereing last year's rates for Nomads staying there Friday night.

So BajaCactus it is.. thanks guys for making this happen, its going to be a memorable trip.

El Comadante Loco - 1-29-2010 at 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Neal Johns
They let TW in a motel? No! What next? :lol:

YES!! He even had a motorcycle or two in it...

Neal Johns - 1-29-2010 at 09:44 PM

What are we going to use for communication, CB? FRS/GMRS? I have both.

David K - 1-29-2010 at 11:38 PM

The only major communication needs to be between the lead and the end vehicle. If someone gets stuck or takes a few tries to climb one of the many grades. The lead vehicle can stop before getting too far ahead.

If it is like our other caravans, we will be within sight of the vehicle in front or behind so will know when to hold up. Taking photos of our various rigs on this Jeep trail will mean lots of photo stops.

Over the 14 1/2 miles, there will be for sure stops at that first nasty gully crossing 1.8 miles from the ranch... at the peninsular divide where you can see Punta Final on the gulf, 9.9 miles... The granite slide a couple more miles down... the Widowmaker at 13+ miles... The bog (swamp) in the palm oasis... and then the mission.

I am very anxious to try it all with the new Tacoma A-TRAC (Active Traction Control) system and not use the Locker, unless I need to. A-TRAC has been available on the FJ Cruiser before 2009 when The Tacoma got the limited slip differential system.

Ken Cooke - 1-30-2010 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by David KI am very anxious to try it all with the new Tacoma A-TRAC (Active Traction Control) system and not use the Locker, unless I need to. A-TRAC has been available on the FJ Cruiser before 2009 when The Tacoma got the limited slip differential system.

David -- Is that vehicle on the Toyota "accelerator" list?

David K - 1-30-2010 at 11:21 AM

The truck had no floor mats because of what happened in Santee... When I discovered that, I told them I wanted the mats from my old Tacoma... and they were fine with giving them to me... two days after the deal was made.

The stock Tacoma floor mat drivers side is hooked to the floor... there is no way it can interfere with the accelerator pedal. What happened in Santee was that Lexus loaner car is it had a second floor mat on top of the stock one... from what I read. The previous user of the loaner even complained to the Lexus dealership about it catching... and they did nothing. This is a big issue against that dealership. Toyota is not at fault, but have done so much to ease the minds of their customers.

I do not have any information about an additional accelerator issue or recall.

I am on my third Tacoma, with 242,000 total miles in the past 9 years and have had NO accelerator issues.

wilderone - 1-30-2010 at 12:10 PM

"If we are able to go, we will stay at Baja Cactus Friday night and Sunday night... Go to Santa Ynez by 10 am Saturday... Arrive at Santa Maria about 1 pm, camp that night, and head out by NOON on Sunday... Plenty of time to explore the mission, oasis, El Camino Real, Petroglyphs, Indian trail to Gonzaga... "

sounds good to me. I have my BajaC reseervations. I am 95% sure I'll be going. I would be a passenger en route to mision.

BAJACAT - 1-30-2010 at 01:35 PM

Thats the plan Wilderone, for the ones that have to come back to work Tuesday..did you call or via e-mail for the resv. in BC.

BajaRoadrunner - 1-30-2010 at 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Neal Johns
What are we going to use for communication, CB? FRS/GMRS? I have both.

I have a CB.

BAJACAT - 1-30-2010 at 01:53 PM

In got 2 motorola two way radions but no CB..

El Comadante Loco - 1-30-2010 at 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by BAJACAT
In got 2 motorola two way radions but no CB..

I also have 2 motorola radios...

Ken Cooke - 1-30-2010 at 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by David K
The truck had no floor mats because of what happened in Santee... When I discovered that, I told them I wanted the mats from my old Tacoma... and they were fine with giving them to me... two days after the deal was made.

The stock Tacoma floor mat drivers side is hooked to the floor... there is no way it can interfere with the accelerator pedal. What happened in Santee was that Lexus loaner car is it had a second floor mat on top of the stock one... from what I read. The previous user of the loaner even complained to the Lexus dealership about it catching... and they did nothing. This is a big issue against that dealership. Toyota is not at fault, but have done so much to ease the minds of their customers.

I do not have any information about an additional accelerator issue or recall.

I am on my third Tacoma, with 242,000 total miles in the past 9 years and have had NO accelerator issues.

From what I'm reading, the accelerator design isn't necessarily the problem, nor are the floor mats. It has to do with the electronics, so be careful out there. There was another group of deaths on Dec. 26th and the Toyota dealership up the street from me is mainly selling Toyota trucks and SUVs now, although I read that the Sequoia had issues too.

woody with a view - 1-30-2010 at 04:19 PM

just throw it into neutral and let the engine explode if your accelerator sticks. or turn off the ignition....

Ken Cooke - 1-30-2010 at 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
just throw it into neutral and let the engine explode if your accelerator sticks. or turn off the ignition....

In this region, a stuck accellerator could mean certain hospitalization with the steep drop offs without guard rails, etc.

Bob H - 1-30-2010 at 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Jose, one more catagory to vote on could be: Yes, I want to go and will if the economy permits!

That would be me... Need to take the new Tacoma in there so it can get its first underbody damage! :tumble:

David... we can find a way to make it happen.... U2 me
Bob H

Bob H - 1-30-2010 at 04:41 PM

Is the plan to still meet up at Sanit Inez in Catavina?
I will need to ride with someone as my truck is too long.
Bob H

BAJACAT - 1-30-2010 at 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Bob H
Is the plan to still meet up at Sanit Inez in Catavina?
I will need to ride with someone as my truck is too long.
Bob H

Bob i will have room, you are welcome.., and yes some nomads will make it there by friday some will be there on saturday. u2u me have any questions Bob.
My truck is ready I will remove the steps a few days before the trip..I have my straps my gas cans the whole enchilada :lol:

BAJACAT - 1-30-2010 at 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by woody in ob
just throw it into neutral and let the engine explode if your accelerator sticks. or turn off the ignition....

In this region, a stuck accellerator could mean certain hospitalization with the steep drop offs without guard rails, etc.

Hey no pedal talking here :mad:

wilderone - 1-30-2010 at 07:53 PM

Si - I have BajaC reservations. If people are staying longer at the mission I could stay too. Am a passenger and will go with the flow. I will head south afterward for whales and hopefully Asuncion for a look-see. Shari, if you're checking this thread, can you still use VHS movies?

BAJACAT - 1-30-2010 at 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by wilderone
Si - I have BajaC reservations. If people are staying longer at the mission I could stay too. Am a passenger and will go with the flow. I will head south afterward for whales and hopefully Asuncion for a look-see. Shari, if you're checking this thread, can you still use VHS movies?

i ENVY YOU, i have to come back to work on tuesday :fire:

David K - 1-31-2010 at 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Bob H

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David... we can find a way to make it happen.... U2 me
Bob H

I did u2u you Bob, I didn't hear back... as I said, you can ride with us... and unless next weeks rain is bad in Baja, again... I think there is a good chance of us going... I could use more work after I finish a job I have in Del Mar tomorrow!

[Edited on 1-31-2010 by David K]

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-31-2010 at 10:16 AM

I POSITIVELY LOVE THE IMBEDDED MISSION IMPOSSIBLE THEME MUSIC. MAKES FOR A MUCH MORE DRAMATIC READ! I USED CAPS BECAUSE THE MUSIC INSPIRED ME TO BE MORE DRAMATIC!

BAJACAT - 1-31-2010 at 10:20 AM

David next week rain is only 30 % chance of rain, nothing like the pass killer rain.

Neal Johns - 1-31-2010 at 11:33 AM

I have been keeping an eye on the weather. The closest I could get to Catavina is El Rosario. Here is the bad news from AccuWeather.com as of this morning (Sun. 10:00):

Monday Night, Feb 8
Rain. Winds will be light and variable

Tuesday, Feb 9
Cloudy with a couple of showers. Winds will be light and variable

Wednesday, Feb 10
Rain. Winds from the W at 14 km/h.

Wednesday Night, Feb 10
Partly cloudy with a shower. Winds from the SW at 14 km/h.

Thursday, Feb 11
Times of clouds and sun with a couple of showers. Winds from the SSW at 22 km/h.

Thursday Night, Feb 11
Rain. Winds from the WSW at 19 km/h.

Friday, Feb 12
Mainly cloudy with a couple of showers. Winds from the NW at 16 km/h.

Friday Night, Feb 12
Partly cloudy. Winds from the NW at 16 km/h.

Saturday Night, Feb 13
Occasional rain. Winds from the SW at 16 km/h.

Sunday, Feb 14
A blend of sun and clouds. Winds from the WSW at 19 km/h.

Sunday Night, Feb 14
Partly cloudy with a couple of showers late. Winds from the WSW at 16 km/h.

Temperature for the next 15 days:

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David K - 1-31-2010 at 11:35 AM

Can a forcast for 2 weeks from now be THAT close?

Do we need to go to San Felipe or Gonzaga Bay instead?

Neal Johns - 1-31-2010 at 11:45 AM

No, DK, it can't be that close. I check every day and it is always different.
BUT there is always some rain. I may chicken out of this trip at the last minute (will keep the Nomads informed) as I planned to stay a while and go somewhere else in addition. It is rather cool for my old blood and, and, and, the swamp is waiting, waiting, waiting....

David K - 1-31-2010 at 11:49 AM

How about San Juan? But, it could be too cold and wet up there, too! We like the HEAT!

BAJACAT - 1-31-2010 at 01:08 PM

Bummer,I guess we will play it as we go. I think by Monday Feb-8 we will make a decision on the options for the trip. Thanks Neal for the update..

El Comadante Loco - 1-31-2010 at 01:17 PM

I am game for San Felipe, Gonzaga or any place else in Baja.
Getting the gear together now... According to latest weather forecast at least for the next 10 day no rain in San Felipe..

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