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Anti-Mexico gang keeps growing

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BobY - 11-25-2011 at 05:19 PM

Oh boy. Statistics. It's well-known that much crime is under-reported because of the lack of faith in the justice system in Mexico. But murders are more accurate, since there aren't as many dead people unaccounted for as muggings. So it's interesting to look at the stats from the perspective of differing rates in homicide vs. other types of crime and try to get a clue that way. A fortunate thing in this regard is that with the initiatives to increase government transparancy, more material is being published more promptly on the web.

Speaking of which, The Economist has this cool map of violence and other drug trade factors here: http://www.economist.com/node/21540289

Baja is down 53% according to this. Nice.

I know Rosarito has gotten rid of a couple corrupt officials. One was shaking down vendors. A third seems to have been disciplined, and a fourth is still under investigation.

There were several killings here that have been attributed to some friction and discipline pertaining to drug distribution. I'm hoping this is a spike and not a trend. There is about 20,000 expats in Rosarito.

In May an American visitor was shot in a case of mistaken identity by drug criminals, but I don't know of any residents.

Peace Out!

Mengano - 11-25-2011 at 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by BobY
Speaking of which, The Economist has this cool map of violence and other drug trade factors here: http://www.economist.com/node/21540289

Baja is down 53% according to this. Nice.

That link only shows drug related murders, not total murders. It is an arbitrary amount determined by how they classify a murder. For instance, three Americans were murdered in Ensenada last month alone. They do not appear in the drug-related murders, even though two of the murders were by tweakers who killed for money to buy drugs.

DENNIS - 11-25-2011 at 05:52 PM

BobY has an professional interest in RobMeArito. A radio program, at least. Right Bobby?

Iflyfish - 11-25-2011 at 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by BobY
Oh boy. Statistics. It's well-known that much crime is under-reported because of the lack of faith in the justice system in Mexico. But murders are more accurate, since there aren't as many dead people unaccounted for as muggings. So it's interesting to look at the stats from the perspective of differing rates in homicide vs. other types of crime and try to get a clue that way. A fortunate thing in this regard is that with the initiatives to increase government transparancy, more material is being published more promptly on the web.

Speaking of which, The Economist has this cool map of violence and other drug trade factors here: http://www.economist.com/node/21540289

Baja is down 53% according to this. Nice.

I know Rosarito has gotten rid of a couple corrupt officials. One was shaking down vendors. A third seems to have been disciplined, and a fourth is still under investigation.

There were several killings here that have been attributed to some friction and discipline pertaining to drug distribution. I'm hoping this is a spike and not a trend. There is about 20,000 expats in Rosarito.

In May an American visitor was shot in a case of mistaken identity by drug criminals, but I don't know of any residents.

Peace Out!

Very useful thread. Thanks. It fits with the experience I have gained traveling on the mainland and in Baja.

Iflyfish

Iflyfish - 11-25-2011 at 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by vivaloha
wow...i just read page 4 of this wild up and down dialogue and i want to thank Mr. Fly Fisher because he just illuminated the concepts of psychological phenomena...victim, persecutor and rescuer and how they game up, switch out and change...very interesting...that was a sweet little tidbit for us non-psychologist types...

i know this thread has totally degenerated into harshness, of which I don't care to participate, but I did want to thank the kind doctor for giving us some food for thought...

just keeping it happy and learning along the way...

oh and regarding all the negative postings about Mexico...keeping it simple...there's a ying and yang to all places, people, trends...things...just sometimes its more black (negativity, problems, obscurity etc..) and sometimes more white (positivity, light, good)...so there will always be both...

thanks for the psychology lesson of the day Fly Fisher...and good luck to all who choose to travel the varied roads of baja this winter...

VA

Thank you. I tend to post when I am bored or sick. I'm not sick, so I guess that leaves bored right now.

I think it has been interesting to watch these dynamics emerge. One of the uses of psychological insight is to be able to predict behavior. Knowledge of games can be very helpful in helping us to see them and to predict their outcome. If you can see a game it is easier to decide to either play or not. Mostly its better not to play.

If you do decide to play just be aware that someone always ends up with bad feelings, predictable, thereby comfortable, favorite bad feelings. One way to stop playing is to refuse to take the bad feelings, you can choose. Knowing that one can choose is also one of the values of psychological knowledge, its empowering.

Iflyfish

BobY - 11-25-2011 at 07:18 PM

Hi Dennis. It warms my heart to experience hazing from an esteemed member such as yourself; and with such a wild sense of humor! It must mean I'm on my way to being part of the communnity. I'm looking forward to chatting with you in person sometime. :spingrin:

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-25-2011 at 07:22 PM

DENNIS - 11-25-2011 at 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by BobY
an esteemed member such as yourself;

Heyyyy.....That BobY. He's pretty smart, huh. I like the steamed part. Thanks. :biggrin:

BajaRat - 11-26-2011 at 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Baja...you either love it...or hate it.

Wish I could had raised my kids there.

LOVE LOVE LOVE IT :bounce:

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