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Toyota Tacoma Frame Crack

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David K - 5-17-2012 at 05:15 PM

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Right here... and I am still wondering why there are always hoods raised when you see a bunch of Jeeps parked together? :lol:

OK, that was a joke... what do you want Ken?

On-board Air - Jeeps usually plumb their air systems from the engine compartment. :light:

Yes, I am sure... now, what did you want from me?

Ken Cooke - 5-17-2012 at 05:18 PM

My opinion is that this 'legendary reliability' phrase is just a coined term. Toyota makes capable trucks, but their hype machine has gone into warrantless overdrive, IMO.

David K - 5-17-2012 at 05:19 PM

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baja air system = using the line from the AC compressor to fill a flat!

I don't think an AC compressor makes pressurized air... it is more about cooling the freon. However, what we do is attach a 12 volt air compressor pump to the battery and can add 5-6 psi per minute to a deflated tire (if you use the one Doug sold here on Tienda Baja Nomad or Harbor Freight's unit.).

David K - 5-17-2012 at 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
My opinion is that this 'legendary reliability' phrase is just a coined term. Toyota makes capable trucks, but their hype machine has gone into warrantless overdrive, IMO.

Oh, I don't know since I don't work for Toyota... all I can say is I have owned a Jeep and I have had Tacomas... and it is so night and day between the quality and reliability of my Tacomas, (also my Mazda, my Mitsubishi, my Subarus) VS. that Jeep and the one other American vehicle I owned (a Plymouth), that you would have a hard time to convince me to throw money at anything with a U.S. brand name on it.

I also have but one vehicle as both a daily driver and an off road vacation truck... so it can't break down.

I do recall you only use the Jeep for fun and you also drive a Japanese brand car as a daily driver... They (Japanese brands) usually don't have 'issues'... right?

Ken Cooke - 5-17-2012 at 05:41 PM

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I do recall you only use the Jeep for fun and you also drive a Japanese brand car as a daily driver... They (Japanese brands) usually don't have 'issues'... right?

Issues:

Honda Pilot: The CD-Changer is jammed/out-of-service at the moment. Other than that, no complaints with the Honda.

Jeep Wrangler: The 9 yr. old subwoofer has finally blown.

Aside from an expensive CV joint overhaul that I am expecting in another year or two, it should be smooth sailing with the Honda.

David K - 5-17-2012 at 05:52 PM

Subwoofer? Did you lose a shock mount on you last Baja trip... anyway, that's okay Ken... I really do like Jeeps... I just wish they were now made by Toyota instead of Fiat, lol! What is taking them so long to make the Wrangler based pickup... The Gladiator? Jeep told dealers to not be surprised to find a truck added to their lineup.

norte - 5-17-2012 at 06:30 PM

I guess buy American doesn't mean anything anymore... Thats OK.... your Dodge or Ford will give you great service and support the good old USA! Your Toy supports someone else.

Skipjack Joe - 5-17-2012 at 06:46 PM

I am told that the reason the german economy does so well is because germans buy german. I was suprised at this. 'You mean there are no toyota dealers in germany?', I asked. Surely someone must see the better value in japanese cars.

Nope, the cars are available to the buyers but they just buy german anyway. Apparently this is particularly true during difficult economic times. This may be true of many homogeneous nations: national loyalty trumps economic benefits.

Ken Cooke - 5-17-2012 at 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Subwoofer? Did you lose a shock mount on you last Baja trip... anyway, that's okay Ken..

That is a non-stock shock absorber that lost a nut and bolt, not a shock mount - big difference. :light:

The shock mount is WELDED in place by 4West :bounce:

[Edited on 5-18-2012 by Ken Cooke]

norte - 5-17-2012 at 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by norte
I guess buy American doesn't mean anything anymore... Thats OK.... your Dodge or Ford will give you great service and support the good old USA! Your Toy supports someone else.

Yes and I remember daddy always saying buy American.. what happened? Why don't we support our own economy? Our own families? BUY AMERICAN.

Bajaboy - 5-17-2012 at 07:36 PM

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Yes and I remember daddy always saying buy American.. what happened? Why don't we support our own economy? Our own families? BUY AMERICAN.

Since we're headed off topic.....please define American when discussing multinational companies :?:

muy duro

captkw - 5-18-2012 at 08:30 AM

1989 volvo. 240..279K miles and no issue's yet..limeted slip rear end,good for baja sand but not a off,off road unit...but tuff as it's a brick...LOL K & T

norte - 5-18-2012 at 09:23 AM

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Yes and I remember daddy always saying buy American.. what happened? Why don't we support our own economy? Our own families? BUY AMERICAN.

Since we're headed off topic.....please define American when discussing multinational companies :?:

Lets just say you didn't see parts shortages for US owned automakers after the tsunami in Japan. There is a reason they call them Japanese cars.... Assembled in the US and Made in Japan...hense the part shortages for JAPANESE auto manufacturers. Pls buy American and help our economy get back on its feet.

David K - 5-18-2012 at 09:50 AM

Please America, make better cars... !!

So far, I only like two, the Jeep Rubicon and the Ford Raptor... Once they are both quality and affordable, they will be considered.

norte - 5-18-2012 at 09:52 AM

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Please America, make better cars... !!

So far, I only like two, the Jeep Rubicon and the Ford Raptor... Once they are both quality and affordable, they will be considered.

Then quit complaining about the economy. More US cars...more irrigation...more baja trips.

David K - 5-18-2012 at 10:11 AM

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Then quit complaining about the economy. More US cars...more irrigation...more baja trips.

It works the other way around for small business owners: The economy improves (when governemnt gets out of the way and stops spending our money), first... then we buy cars, better sprinklers... Baja trips! :light:

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 10:21 AM

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Then quit complaining about the economy. More US cars...more irrigation...more baja trips.

Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 10:54 AM

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Then quit complaining about the economy. More US cars...more irrigation...more baja trips.

Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

You sure you want to go there? 'Trickle-Down' works great for me------when the economy is booming, I prosper. When it is not allowed to "boom" I suffer some. The govt. is stifleing the economy right now, and that hurts (trickles-down to) almost everybody unless you have hedges against that happening. I look around my middle-class neighborhood and see all the toys and newer cars and it is hard for me to believe that they are "hurting" that much at all, but appearances are deceiving, I suppose. :rolleyes:

On a previous subject--------I had an Audi and a Mercedes back in the '70's and 80's, and tho fun to drive they both broke the bank in constant repairs and servicing. NO more German cars for me. I have a '97 Toyota, an '89 Isuzu, and a '07 Nissan X-terra and love them all. My '94 Ford F-250 4x4 has been a dream also, I must admit, and my '69 Ford F-100 is still running strong too.

Barry

chuckie - 5-18-2012 at 10:59 AM

So? Did we get the frame welded or not?

TMW - 5-18-2012 at 11:07 AM

It's been delayed they couldn't find a welding rod strong enough. Toyota is shipping one by overnight delivery.

Bajaboy - 5-18-2012 at 11:10 AM

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So? Did we get the frame welded or not?

I mentioned already that it's scheduled for Monday.

Unfortunately, the choir decided to dress up like politicians and claim to have all the answers.

[Edited on 5-18-2012 by Bajaboy]

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 11:31 AM

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It worked great until congress changed in 2007! It got worse when the executive branch also was lost. Some hope and change when we won the house in 2010... but the enemy senate refused to pass any budgets the house has submitted (they don't want things to get better, as it goes against their plans). In the meantime, more Americans on food stamps than ever, and 15 Trillion in debt... more debt added in just 3 years as in the entire history of all pervious U.S. presidents, combined!

where do you get this nonsense?
Here let me help you out a little. You should repeatedly visit this site.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/romney-wrong-on-deficits-au...
and
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/a-texas-size-whopper/

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 12:18 PM

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Sorry Ralph, but leftist propaganda doesn't change what I lived and experienced raising two kids and growing my business, at the same time.

Tax cuts cause MORE money to come into the treasury, because tax cuts incease business revenues which increases employment which increases tax payers.

More people paying a small/ fair tax is FAR GREATER than a few people paying a higher tax.

David, David, David..Factcheck.org is NOT a leftist organization. get with the program.

Now, Lots of us have raised families and had Jobs. and have done quiet well. It could be that those who have not, have not due to personal decisions.

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 12:19 PM

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Ralph--------I just read all 3 of your "cites" in the links you provided, and I read them completely--------I see nothing there that refutes what David K. has said---------.

It's like we live in parallel universes, seldom seeing what the other side sees--------we only see what we want to see.

Barry

Bajaboy - 5-18-2012 at 12:27 PM

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Problem with Dk's arguement is the use of "we lost", the "enemy Senate", etc. He attacks an idea based on the party instead of the idea. When Universal healthcare was backed by the republicans, I'm certain he was for it.

I have a hard time discussing a topic when all one wants to do is use sound bites from their party of choice. Instead, I prefer to engage with people who think through an idea and are open to change their opinion based on new knowledge or information.

To merely say it always "their" fault is short sighted and ignorant. Unfortunately that is what today's politicians have brought us. There is no discourse or discussion.

Okay, I'll let the chest-pounding continue....

DavidE - 5-18-2012 at 12:33 PM

Googled "House CRACKED FRAME"

Googled "Senate CRACKED FRAME"

And now must admit. This thread has gone way over my head. Toodahloo...

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 12:40 PM

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Check again. more debt in 3 years than all of the other presidents combined? The national debt tripled under Reagan and has gone up 50% under Obama.

The Treasury Department’s “Debt to the Penny” Web site makes it easy to track the growth of the national debt during Obama’s presidency. There are two key figures — for publicly held debt and for gross debt, which includes bonds that the government owes to itself (such as Social Security trust fund bonds.)

As of Jan. 20, 2009, the publicly held debt was $6.31 trillion and the gross debt was $10.63 trillion. As of May 14, 2012, the publicly held debt was $10.92 trillion and the gross debt was $15.68 trillion.

So, the publicly held debt has grown by $4.61 trillion, and the gross debt has grown by $5.05 trillion. Thus it’s certainly correct that the national debt has grown by about $5 trillion under Obama.

and looking at all the debt added by all previous presidents makes the number 5 times that (remember some of that debt was paid down over the years).

Debt is a problem for sure but Just trying to keep the facts straight.

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 12:53 PM

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"we" and "enemy" are my words of choice expressing my 'feelings' on what is going on in this country... Not words from any political party sound bite.

America is hurting, people are loosing their jobs, their homes and in some cases their families because growth is being surpressed.

One party believes free people are what makes America grow and prosper.

The other party believes a government agency must take more and more from a once prosperous people and decide where to spend that money in order to remain in power by creating a dependency state...

I have NEVER been hired by a poor person.

When government is cut and people keep more of their money (freedom), America prospers... more pay taxes, and the budget can balance.

Why are you not working if you never ben hired by a POOR person . I hear the rich are getting Richer or is that just a myth. :?:

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 01:02 PM

J.P.-----------That IS what rich people do best, you know--------get richer!!!! I think there is a lesson there someplace-------- like Duh!!!!! It IS an "art form" you know.

You gotta problem with that?? :lol:

(I don't)

Barry

edm1 - 5-18-2012 at 01:04 PM

Gentlemen, control yourselves. This thread has gone way off track.

Be patient, maybe Bajaboy will give us an update on the welding job by end of Monday.

Bajaboy - 5-18-2012 at 01:07 PM

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Gentlemen, control yourselves. This thread has gone way off track.

Be patient, maybe Bajaboy will give us an update on the welding job by end of Monday.

Taking it in Monday after work and picking it up on Tuesday.

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 01:10 PM

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J.P.-----------That IS what rich people do best, you know--------get richer!!!! I think there is a lesson there someplace-------- like Duh!!!!! It IS an "art form" you know.

You gotta problem with that?? :lol:

(I don't)

Barry

I dont have a problem with the rich getting richer I have a problem with Wingnuts blaming their personal Failure on some one else. In my life as a working person I did a lot of things I didnt want to do but I always provided for my family. as a result today I dont have to do anything that doesnt please me. :bounce:

Cypress - 5-18-2012 at 01:19 PM

Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!!

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 01:25 PM

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Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!!

Talking about getting a cracked frame is as exciting as watching paint dry .Fix it or Junk it. :lol:

Cypress - 5-18-2012 at 01:30 PM

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Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!!

Talking about getting a cracked frame is as exciting as watching paint dry .Fix it or Junk it. :lol:

chuckie - 5-18-2012 at 01:42 PM

Welding rod is being flown in from Krypton, at Government expense funded by an elitist superpac. (classified) I would say more but right wing agencies have spy satellites watching my welder...

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 01:43 PM

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(I don't)

Barry

Ahhh some intelligence.. and hard work.....and Whistler... you can be on either side of the isle and make that statement. AMEN!!! In my lifetime anyway, if you wanted a life, it was there. It was all about choices. Glad I made the right ones.

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 01:48 PM

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That same corporation taught me how to fix a cracked frame.

Must have been "rocket science" . You can weld on my frame any day Glenn. surprised you did not jump in earlier.

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rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 02:00 PM

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Well, if it is personal decisions at fault for this economic disaster across America, that is sure passing the blame off those responsible for the banking/ housing disaster (Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, etc.). It isn't isolated with a few making bad decisions, the whole country is suffering and we are WORSE off than 3 1/2 years ago.

Thank God that I had a great run from 1980 to 2008 to build my business, in order to raise my kids from 1988 to 2008 when both had reached 18.

Blaming others again....instead of the banking industry. Geeze...and if your business did so well after 28 years of all that hard work you must be retiring about now. Right?

kaybaj - 5-18-2012 at 02:04 PM

I'm gonna vote for the welding rod :bounce:

tripledigitken - 5-18-2012 at 02:13 PM

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David,

I think a considerable amount of blame lies with individuals. I'm talking about those that bought RE early on with little or no down, then when they accrued big equity gains they took out 2nds. With that many bought toys they could otherwise not afford. We all know them. Remember the no income verification loans, some blame is on the individual that really couldn't afford those loans but was only counting on equity build up of 20%+ yr to make it pencil.

Ken

David K - 5-18-2012 at 02:20 PM

YES, Ken, very true... and the banks had their arms tied by Frank/ Dodd when the government insisted they loan money to anyone with no regard for financial ability to pay back the loans.

tripledigitken - 5-18-2012 at 02:41 PM

in referring to David K.....

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Blaming others again....instead of the banking industry. Geeze...and if your business did so well after 28 years of all that hard work you must be retiring about now. Right?

Was that necessary???

David K - 5-18-2012 at 02:44 PM

Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 02:59 PM

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Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

AAAHHHH David you got it TRUTH'S fortunately we all have Different Truths.
Mine happen to be different from Yours. Political truths have little to do with ones ability to be sucessful or not

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 03:06 PM

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Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

Hey stop right there. You are the one that brought up your work record not me.
"Thank God that I had a great run from 1980 to 2008 to build my business, in order to raise my kids from 1988 to 2008 when both had reached 18. "

And Ken he brought his personal "experience" into this as a way for blaming the "left"

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 03:09 PM

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Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

Although the Messiah has spoken, he would be better off deleting his posts (as he threatened to do) rather than blaming others for name calling. Nothing personal David.

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 03:14 PM

Frame cracks-------------at the risk of putting everybody to sleep--------my heavy steel CALLEN camper, plus really bad Mexican roads, cracked the sub-frame on my F-250 several years ago right behind the cab, and the whole truck sagged in the middle. I had the frame on both sides, just behind the cab (an extended cab), welded up with heavy duty channel iron added to the mix to stiffen, and hopefully strengthen, the frame. It has worked like a charm, and no further problems since. I had an outfit that hand-built heavy duty utility trailers do the work--------was really happy with what they did, and I stuck around to see exactly how they did it. They used an arc welder, not gas, so as not to heat the existing frame to much and damage it's temper (as they explained it).

Barry

tripledigitken - 5-18-2012 at 03:23 PM

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Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

Where did I blame the "left"? I didn't. My point was of personal responsibility in ones bad financial decisions.

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 03:34 PM

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Thanks Ken, but the left always resorts to name calling and personal attacks in hopes to silence those that expose the truth of their policy results.

Where did I blame the "left"? I didn't. My point was of personal responsibility in ones bad financial decisions.

First part was response to David. I agree with what you were saying.

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 03:40 PM

Personally, as a rightist, I believe that the "left" had SOMETHING to do with BajaBoy's frame being cracked--------but you lefties have always ASSUMED that we righties felt that way-------right???

:lol:

Barry

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 03:58 PM

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Personally, as a rightist, I believe that the "left" had SOMETHING to do with BajaBoy's frame being cracked--------but you lefties have always ASSUMED that we righties felt that way-------right???

:lol:

Barry

By gosh your right this time. At least I assume you know so.

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 04:19 PM

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Ralph,nobody handed you your MBA. Happened to know you worked construction to put yourself through school.It seems the generation now wants everything handed to them.
I played it safe.Went to trade school after the service.Worked while going there.Benefits,pension etc.I didn't take risks.
This nation was founded on risk takers.Thank god for them.It seems the left(I am an independant)wants to punish them.

Its gotten very easy for either left or right to extend blame rather than looking at what opportunities they have in their own lives. Too many people want it all without having to work for it. I think most thinking people agree that it was greed that caused the housing bubble. Greed by all parties in the transaction. Another get rich quick scheme that crashed.

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Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 04:30 PM

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Well said, both Whisler and RTS--------------but "greed" in Man is not going away any time soon, I fear-----so we (all of us) better figure it into our thinking, and take appropriate steps to protect or hedge ourselves, and/or even take advantage of the greed in others (which, of course is "greed" thinking in itself). If YOU don't, somebody else always will.

Even if Gordon Gecho was wrong with his "Greed is good" comment (and that is still open to question), Greed is with us and always will be, no matter how many folks think that Greed is Outrageous!!!

Just my thoughts-------

Barry

Cypress - 5-18-2012 at 04:53 PM

158 posts about a cracked frame! :biggrin:

Ken Cooke - 5-18-2012 at 05:30 PM

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Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

Don't ask me that question. In 1985, I worked at McDonalds for $3.25/hr. To me, it felt like a complete waste of time for that amount of money. I was in High School and brought home a whopping $60/month at the time.

David K - 5-18-2012 at 05:41 PM

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Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

When I started working, while still in high school, at a pizza place (remember Straw Hat?)... the minimum wage I was paid was $1.90/hr. That was raised to a whopping $2.10, but it still couldn't pay the gas my Jeep drank to get to the job! Gas had just jumped up to .60/ gallon!

My solution was not to complain, protest, or ask the government for help, but to get a BETTER PAYING JOB! I did, $5/ hr. :light:

Oh, to be 18 again!

TMW - 5-18-2012 at 05:47 PM

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Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

If it was a waste of your time why did you work there? Did you not learn something that helped you later or a skill that helped you. I don't think any job is a waste of time, it is a learning experience to be used to further your education or job experience. I worked a lot of jobs growing up and each helped me decide on what I wanted to do with my life.

Ken Cooke - 5-18-2012 at 05:48 PM

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Hows that Trickle Down Thing Working For YAHHHHHH :lol:

Oh, to be 18 again!

In 1985, I drove a 6 cyl. Chevy Nova - Dad paid the gasoline. The gasoline was still cheap, but thanks to one tanker running aground (Exxon Valdez) gasoline jumped from .75/gal. to $1.35/gal. Can you say RIP OFF!?!

In 1987, I went straight to college.

TMW - 5-18-2012 at 05:51 PM

At 16 I worked on a farm doing all the various task needing done at $6 for an 8 hour day plus lunch that was 1961. Gas in St Louis was 17cents a gallon.

TMW - 5-18-2012 at 05:54 PM

Funny I moved to Bakersfield in 1999 and gas was 99cents a gallon. $1.25 in Lubbock went I left.

Ken Cooke - 5-18-2012 at 06:01 PM

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If it was a waste of your time why did you work there? Did you not learn something that helped you later or a skill that helped you. I don't think any job is a waste of time, it is a learning experience to be used to further your education or job experience. I worked a lot of jobs growing up and each helped me decide on what I wanted to do with my life.

I learned never to use drugs. One of the guys on my shift started using Methamphetamine. He offered me some, but I told him, "That's cool, no thanks." He came to work full of pep at first. Then, the rings under his eyes became larger over time. He was the most burned out McDonalds employee in Mira Loma!

My Manager named Howard used to bark orders at us guys like we were all in Vietnam. That is, until a glob of boiling hot oil popped in his eye - he was sent to the Hospital and went on Disability. Moral of the story - Don't follow orders without protective gear.

The greatest thing that I learned was to get myself an Education. I was listening to my angry Punk Rock music and decided it was time to get a Mohawk (Fro-hawk, in my case), and I quit my job. The Management was real nice, and at first refused to let me go, but after a meeting with my Parents, we all decided it was time for me to quit my job.

One of the groups I listened to DAILY from 1983-1985 that really shaped how I saw the world.

Slaving in a factory
a differnt kind of insanity
Feels like I'm locked in a cage
Working like a maniac
give myself a heart attack
For a job that pays minimum wage

Barry A. - 5-18-2012 at 06:58 PM

My first permanent job with the Govt. in l967 paid GROSS $5,290 PER YEAR salary as a Permanent Full time Buck-Ranger in Grand Canyon Natl. Park. We loved it, but it was tough financially--------I scrambled and worked 10+ hours a day, and after 5 years was making tripple that and life was good. It always pays to work hard, and pay attention to detail.

I flipped hamburghers at Jack-in-the-box for about a year while married with 2 kids (wife did not work) and I was in school , and even enjoyed that. Before the year was out I was Asst. Manager of the place on the night shift. Most of the employees were students, and were happy, and the boss pretty much let us choose our schedules to suit our school hours-----I don't even remember what it paid, but it put food on the table, and paid for gas, and that was all that was really important. I decided that the Boss worked entirely too hard (14 hours a day for 6 days a week) for his big-bucks, and decided it was not worth it to lazy me, and chose another road to "success".

Barry

Bajaboy - 5-18-2012 at 07:02 PM

What a bunch of slackers....I started working at 12 yrs old tossing papers. I guess maybe earlier since I used to mow all the neighbors' lawns before that. At 14 got my first real job at a nearby gourmet deli. Then in high school I worked myself in a job at Charles Schwab and was on my way to becoming the youngest broker in the company until the bubble popped and everyone started pointing fingers at the other guy....looks like things have not changed much since then.

I say pull up your own boot straps and take care of yourself. Once you've done that, help out where you can and quit taking advantage of others for your personal financial benefit.

woody with a view - 5-18-2012 at 07:03 PM

"I say pull up your own boot straps and take care of yourself. Once you've done that, help out where you can and quit taking advantage of others for your personal financial benefit."

WORD!

Ken Cooke - 5-18-2012 at 07:26 PM

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What a bunch of slackers....I started working at 12 yrs old tossing papers.

I started at age 11 - the newspaper route was still in my brothers name. Top that!

rts551 - 5-18-2012 at 07:32 PM

Here we go. I started work younger than you did! Why not.... I retired earlier than you did! Its much more fun!

Bajaboy - 5-18-2012 at 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
What a bunch of slackers....I started working at 12 yrs old tossing papers.

I started at age 11 - the newspaper route was still in my brothers name. Top that!

My dad didn't pay for my gas or my college. :biggrin:

Ken Cooke - 5-18-2012 at 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
What a bunch of slackers....I started working at 12 yrs old tossing papers.

I started at age 11 - the newspaper route was still in my brothers name. Top that!

My dad didn't pay for my gas or my college. :biggrin:

You win, Bajaboy!

Mexitron - 5-18-2012 at 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
"I say pull up your own boot straps and take care of yourself. Once you've done that, help out where you can and quit taking advantage of others for your personal financial benefit."

WORD!

yep!

work

J.P. - 5-18-2012 at 08:27 PM

In Texas it was illegal to own slaves, no one told my dad so I went to work when I was 14. bought my first car that year 1954 paid 300dls in monthly payments' had a new car about every 2 years my first compleatly paid for car was in 2000. I will never make another car payment. :no:

chuckie - 5-19-2012 at 02:13 AM

Like they say, first liar dont stand a chance...Did the frame get welded?

comitan - 5-19-2012 at 04:47 AM

Chuckie

Check U2U

edm1 - 5-19-2012 at 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by chuckie
. . . Did the frame get welded?

It's not Tuesday yet.

In the meantime, back to the fireside pi$$ing contest. More beer, more tequila?

[Edited on 5-19-2012 by edm1]

chuckie - 5-19-2012 at 05:02 AM

Nah,, jist getting my 2nd cup of coffee....Maybe later, after I solve the world peace problem....

dtbushpilot - 5-19-2012 at 07:16 AM

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Me 2....

Ken Cooke - 5-19-2012 at 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy

I say pull up your own boot straps and take care of yourself. Once you've done that, help out where you can and quit taking advantage of others for your personal financial benefit.

I completely agree! Here is the video I produced for Baja Nomad earlier this year.

Tacoma Consumer Rust Complaints/Solutions

Ken Cooke - 5-19-2012 at 05:58 PM

link: Edmunds.com

#12 of 27 Not happy with my 2011 by dwarfl0rd
May 02, 2011 (12:24 pm)

I just bought my 2011 crew cab long bed 4x4 in February 2011 and it now has 2100 miles and rust spots all over the frame and other places underneath. On top of that, I tried to haul about 20 bags of mulch and the truck's bed bottomed out on the bumper guards just over the leaf springs. This isn't a truck. They call this a truck?! Its supposed to handle 12xx lbs of payload, and can't even manage 800lbs. Not only that it is already rusting on the frame. I had a Mazda tribute for 11 years with one area of rust between the body panel and door and this tacoma rusts within 2 months of purchase on the FRAME and weld joints! Ridiculous. I had a '97 tacoma with "0" problems. I have 2 major problems with this car in the first 2 months of ownership. I'm not real happy paying $30k for these headaches. Toyota lost a long term customer ('97 taco, '02 Corolla, '04 Camry, '08 Sienna and now this '11 Tacoma Junk).
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I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma as well. I have 105,000 miles on it. I just lost all of my transmission fluid because the steel tubing from the transmission that runs to the radiator rusted out. I've also replaced the alternator and the AC quit working and needs $1900.00 worth of work to fix it. I'm not happy and the Toyota dealer just wants a lot of money to fix everything.
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Re: nothing done? [jend2]

Written by: oly51 on May 4, 2012 5:50:06 AM
My 2005 Tacoma with 75,000 miles has the same problem with the frame rusting. Internet searches show this to be an all too common problem. A post in the tundrasolutions.com forums gave the following info: Not to rehash an old thread but I have an 05 DC Tacoma and have had a rust problem since about 07-08. I have call Toyota twice and this time actually got some valuable information. In ... Read More
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Re: nothing done? [goingfor300000]

Written by: jend2 on Apr 21, 2012 12:29:44 PM
We are having problems with our 2005 toyota Tacoma. We went to the dealership to check the check light on and the worker saw frame rusted through. What can be done?? Who do we call? The rust ate a hole through this!
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#18 of 27 Fools Rush In...... by boxdin
Dec 29, 2011 (10:39 am)

For years I have not understood why people line up to buy these absolute pieces of junk.
I've even read where guys can't wait for Toyota to buy their junk truck so they can buy
ANOTHER ONE. For Gods sake wake up and realize Toyota has been lying to its customers for years. Try buying an American truck !
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Well boxdin: You are clearly the epitome of ignorance.
First off, the Toyota frame problem was a result of their AMERICAN frame supplier... DANA.
Second, Toyota trucks (Tacoma and Tundra) are made in.... you got it... AMERICA. Specifically, they are mostly made in San Antonio TX.
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We are having problems with our 2005 toyota Tacoma. We went to the dealership to check the check light on and the worker saw frame rusted through. What can be done?? Who do we call? The rust ate a hole through this!
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I needed to get my 2003 Tacoma truck inspected and discovered it’s rusted everywhere......I have lost my spare tire(rust) My Fuel tank has a hole in it and the support arms that hold the gas tank are practically rusted off! The bed has a hole through it! The frame is weak every where. Toyota says they had a deadline for the recall of 12/31/11
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Not to rehash an old thread but I have an 05 DC Tacoma and have had a rust problem since about 07-08. I have call Toyota twice and this time actually got some valuable information. In order for Toyota to actually look into a problem they have to notice a trend of calls with complaints. they review the nature of the complaint and what vehicle it was noted on. Please if you have a 2005 or newer Tacoma with a rust problem please call and complain...you don't have to be an *ss just let them know the problem you are having. If they have a lot of calls they will look into it and hopefully do something like they did with the 2000-04 models.
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I did a search on www.arfc.org which is the site where vehicle complaints are compiled to the NHTSA. I searched "Frame Rust". In the first 10 pages of search results I found the breakdown of complaints by manufacturer:

GM - 2
Isuzu - 5
Honda - 9
Kia - 1
Subaru - 1
Ford - 9
Nissan - 10
Toyota - 63

Fully over 60% of the complaints were for Toyota products. Over 3 million Tacomas and Tundras were sold in the last 12 Years. Toyota has been dealing with this problem by buying back and destroying / or re-framing these trucks to the tune of approx $13,000 per vehicle.
3 million times $13,000 equals $39 billion. Current Toyota yearly profit is approx $5 billion, so that their liability for these defective frames is equal to about 8 years of profit. I predict their policy of taking responsibility for these rusty trucks will end within a year or two. If I owned their stock I would sell it soon.
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Purchased my '05 Tacoma new. The underside still looks like the day it came from the dealer.
Park it outside in the Oregon rain, too. Only problem that I have had was when a squirrel ate through the "new and improved" non-plastic wire harness under the hood.

Barry A. - 5-19-2012 at 06:09 PM

Ken-------those folks should really try and avoid driving in the Pacific surf area--------salt water is soooo bad for steel!

My Nissan X-Terra is a 2007, and has only a mild patina of rust on it's unpainted undercarriage. No problems.

Barry

Ken Cooke - 5-19-2012 at 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Ken-------those folks should really try and avoid driving in the Pacific surf area--------salt water is soooo bad for steel!
Barry

I don't believe many live in the surf area. Just a couple of complaints from the beach area. The Dana-produced frames seem troublesome - at best.

rts551 - 5-19-2012 at 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Ken-------those folks should really try and avoid driving in the Pacific surf area--------salt water is soooo bad for steel!

My Nissan X-Terra is a 2007, and has only a mild patina of rust on it's unpainted undercarriage. No problems.

Barry

and stay away from snow. come to think of it ice...and well leave it in the garage.

Barry A. - 5-19-2012 at 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Ken-------those folks should really try and avoid driving in the Pacific surf area--------salt water is soooo bad for steel!
Barry

I don't believe many live in the surf area. Just a couple of complaints from the beach area. The Dana-produced frames seem troublesome - at best.

Hmmmmmm--------I have never seen any significant rust problems when the steel is not exposed to the weather along the coasts, or to roads having been salted when they have ice on them. My 1969 Ford truck has lived in the desert (or semi-desert) all it's life, never been in a garage, and has no rust other than a light patina on unpainted parts-------salt is the culprit, normally, in my experience.

These reports are very strange to me.

Barry

DavidE - 5-19-2012 at 08:22 PM

O.K. I admit it, I am the caboose in the long train of oh-woe-is-me tales of trudging eight miles to school every day through the snow, shoeless.

Tell ya what, I am happier than hell just being here. My politics fell off the edge of the earth long ago. My big joke is making my Mexican neighbors laugh when I tell them my car is so old and ugly no sicario in their right mind would ever think about hijacking it.

The refrigerator is empty, the bank account drained. I swallow enough medicine per day to make it a meal...

And I Am Happy To Be Alive. It Sure As Hell Beats The One And Only Alternative!

Mexitron - 5-19-2012 at 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
O.K. I admit it, I am the caboose in the long train of oh-woe-is-me tales of trudging eight miles to school every day through the snow, shoeless.

Tell ya what, I am happier than hell just being here. My politics fell off the edge of the earth long ago. My big joke is making my Mexican neighbors laugh when I tell them my car is so old and ugly no sicario in their right mind would ever think about hijacking it.

The refrigerator is empty, the bank account drained. I swallow enough medicine per day to make it a meal...

And I Am Happy To Be Alive. It Sure As Hell Beats The One And Only Alternative!

Where is the "Like" button?

chuckie - 5-20-2012 at 03:31 AM

My daughters Tacoma suffered the same problems and it never left Colorado. She bought it new. Lots of other problems with very little interest from the Mfg. in solving them....

sd - 5-20-2012 at 03:44 AM

Warren Buffet's company just purchased 10 million shares of GM. Maybe he reads Baja Nomad!

Bajaboy - 5-20-2012 at 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by sd
Warren Buffet's company just purchased 10 million shares of GM. Maybe he reads Baja Nomad!

Oh no, you didn't bring that up did you.....come on now, according to some....GM is really owned by Obama and Buffett says we should raise taxes on the rich.....they are the enemies....come on now...it was their friends that made Toyota look bad to prop up American companies....it had nothing to do with cracked frames or floor mats..... :lol:

woody with a view - 5-20-2012 at 06:05 AM

where's DK? i think you took the words outta his mouth....

WOW !!!

captkw - 5-20-2012 at 07:15 AM

Some folk's are lucky to have sooo much free time on their hand's !!!! LOL frames and the left and right...the power's that be have us running around like chicken's..while the wolf is opening the gate !! we american's should not have to be in dept !! get ride of the fed reserve,,what a BAD f-cking joke on us...my 2 centavo's..capt K & Lil Tasha... ps..I ,myself like toy truck's !!

rust can be a beautiful thing

tripledigitken - 5-20-2012 at 07:38 AM

David K - 5-20-2012 at 08:48 AM

You see far more Tacomas (and other Toyotas) on the road than any other brand of mid-size truck... You also see more old Toyotas than any other small (mini) pickups... at least around here in salty San Diego!

I didn't have a positive opinion of Toyota before I got one... In fact, I went to Ford first to get a Ranger. I am so glad they wouldn't talke my piece of crap Plymouth in as a trade! I went to Toyota Carlsbad and they were the best folks and taking the hell on wheels mini van wasn't a problem. Thanks to people like Neal Johns, Taco de Baja, Bajaboy, and other Toyota owners for strongly advising me or telling me how well these trucks are built!

I have never been on Edmunds.com to say good things about my Tacomas... But, I guess that is where the minority of people who have bad things do go?

J.P. - 5-20-2012 at 08:53 AM

I look better Pushing my NISSAN than I would look driving a TOYOTA :lol:

DavidE - 5-20-2012 at 08:56 AM

Uuuwheee!

I see Nissans pushing Toyotas all the time

With a chain

Barry A. - 5-20-2012 at 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken

How did you get a picture of my arms????

Barry

elgatoloco - 5-20-2012 at 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy

My son and I are scheduled to leave a week from Thursday :tumble:

Are you planning on repairing this pickup, or do you have a backup vehicle? You don't have much time before your next Baja trip.

He has a backup - my 1999 F-250 Extended cab 7.3 Powerstroke long bed 4x4 with 273,000 miles. It's the least I can do as payback for when he pulled me out of the sand south of Pta. Eugenio years ago. :saint:

Maybe that's how the frame cracked? :biggrin:

Better yet, pack your bags and join us :light:

Hey, thanks for the invite! We will live THE Baja vicariously thru you guys. :biggrin:

We have to head to THE Islands for a couple weeks for work. :smug:

Hoping to squeeze in some scuba/surf/golf/hike. Wish me luck. :dudette:

Abrazos to the familia!

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Believing that lowering taxes will raise revenue is like the Mayans believing that throwing a virgin off a cliff will improve the corn crop. :lol:

woody with a view - 5-20-2012 at 09:37 AM

THEE Islands! i'm guessing you don't mean Channel Islands! :rolleyes:

i'm starting San clemente Island monday. no golf courses, but i did see a dead 12" flying fish on the catwalk under the pier we are working next to. can't wait!

DavidE - 5-20-2012 at 11:08 AM

Believing that lowering taxes will raise revenue is like the Mayans believing that throwing a virgin off a cliff will improve the corn crop. :lol:

Aha! Same philosophy as believing if cake bake well for 45 minutes at 350 degrees, it can be done faster (5 minutes) with far less energy, at 2,000 degrees.

Barry A. - 5-20-2012 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Believing that lowering taxes will raise revenue is like the Mayans believing that throwing a virgin off a cliff will improve the corn crop. :lol:

Aha! Same philosophy as believing if cake bake well for 45 minutes at 350 degrees, it can be done faster (5 minutes) with far less energy, at 2,000 degrees.

You sure you want to go here?

You left out "increasing the base" out of the equation. So, "Lowering taxes AND increase the base" DOES produce more revenue over time-----just ask Art Laffer. :light:

Not sure where cake-baking fits in, tho. :lol:

----and, it is NEVER a good idea to waste "virgins" that way, and no Supply-Sider/Conservative would even THINK of doing that. It would be outragious!!!!

Barry

woody with a view - 5-20-2012 at 11:38 AM

i dunno, Barry. you have the virgins and i'll take the experienced ones! deal?

Barry A. - 5-20-2012 at 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno, Barry. you have the virgins and i'll take the experienced ones! deal?

Deal!!!! But at my age "virgins" are a little hard to come by (but still lookin !?!?!?!) (not really)

Barry

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