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Help needed at Punta Cono Photos added

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shari - 8-31-2012 at 10:16 AM

hmmm...we are a few hours away but would be happy to put up the family in a house here so mom or whomever can come and pick them up at their leisure...how to get them here may be tricky???? We only have a small pick up and the family wouldnt fit...or maybe someone could get them to the hotel in Sta.Rosalillita or my husband's cousin there...it is very easy to be picked up there.

degoma - 8-31-2012 at 10:26 AM

Yea Shari,

Wonderful offer and possibly the key to the problem, i.e. get them out in stages. That's just what we were thinking about...with our friends there and others coming, surely there must be a way.

degoma - 8-31-2012 at 10:30 AM

Mario Maclish could get them to Sta.Rosalillita.

DavidE - 8-31-2012 at 10:41 AM

Another dos centavos for folks living in Baja California

This family for all intents and purposes is as vulnerable as it gets. For decades bad hombres have used rural areas for hangout and "recreation". If information should reach the wrong ears I shudder at what could take place. Please keep this in mind and keep bi-lingual chisme (gossip) under close wraps. This is not directed at anyone but offered as general advice.

Mexitron - 8-31-2012 at 11:12 AM

If you guys can get them to Santa Rosalillita its all paved road back home, if their mother is capable of driving the main highway down. The "good" graded road to Cono is a washboard nightmare now and negotiating the roads out to the point where the're stranded is tricky for the unititiated. I certainly wouldn't send her out there with no experience.

degoma - 8-31-2012 at 11:09 PM

Does anyone know if there is scheduled air service to Guerrero Negro?

Thanks

[Edited on 9-1-2012 by degoma]

Mula - 9-1-2012 at 05:54 AM

from where?

degoma - 9-1-2012 at 07:19 AM

Mula,

Lea's mom is in San Diego so we were thinking if there was service from somewhere she could fly there and then to Guerrero; not unlike trying to fly to Loreto these days.

Once there she could get a taxi to Sta. Rosalilita and connect with Mario or the cousin that Shari mentioned.

bajaguy - 9-1-2012 at 07:25 AM

i believe there is a small charter airline office in GN. They fly in people to whale watch and for fishing trips.

shari - 9-1-2012 at 07:35 AM

I think the best plan is for mom to drive down to Sta.Rosalillita or Nuevo Rosarito on the highway...a taxi to Rosalillita would be super expensive and then what? Or why cant they just get on the bus at Punta Prieta and go north that way? Mom can paypal the ticket money to someone who can pay the ticket??? just thinking out loud here

degoma - 9-1-2012 at 07:44 AM

Good thinking Shari...we share the same thoughts.

"Then what" in particular.

degoma - 9-1-2012 at 07:48 AM

Having Lea and the kids get on the bus at Pta. Prieta seems like the simplest solution of all...for sure.

With her mom still wanting to come down the communication lag is a problem...who's where when doing what, etc.

shari - 9-1-2012 at 08:03 AM

I agree with the bus idea...it is a matter of finding out when the bus passes there and waiting at the restaurant...I can call and have the bus stop there whenever they get there...then mom gets a call and she can meet them in San Ysidro...or TJ...she can get a cab to the TJ bus depot to meet them...whatever works...I'll U2U me cel #.

DavidE - 9-1-2012 at 08:07 AM

Let's hope for the best!

[Edited on 9-1-2012 by DavidE]

degoma - 9-1-2012 at 10:09 AM

http://s1172.photobucket.com/albums/r562/degoma/Cono/TheCrew...

[Edited on 9-1-2012 by BajaNomad]

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David K - 9-1-2012 at 10:38 AM

Great to see them all smiling considering what we have read or what they have gone through!

degoma - 9-1-2012 at 05:38 PM

This news just came to me from Bill at Cardon:

Bruce- saw the boat people today and they are doing fine. William says they should be ready to roll in a week. They are waiting for some plywood, fiberglass and resin to finish repairs. Lea said to tell her mom to stay put. I also told Lea that they can cross with birth certificates with no problem. Mario dropped off water and groceries yesterday so they seem to be fine. Bill

Nemo55 - 9-1-2012 at 05:55 PM

I think i would be trusting Gay's instincts on this one for sure,,if she thinks its rotten then get them kids outa there.

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Originally posted by degoma
This news just came to me from Bill at Cardon:

Bruce- saw the boat people today and they are doing fine. William says they should be ready to roll in a week. They are waiting for some plywood, fiberglass and resin to finish repairs. Lea said to tell her mom to stay put. I also told Lea that they can cross with birth certificates with no problem. Mario dropped off water and groceries yesterday so they seem to be fine. Bill

desertcpl - 9-1-2012 at 06:06 PM

I have only been a by stander on this one

but some thing from the start smelled like fish gone bad

I would think IMHO the kids need to go home to grandmother

pappy - 9-2-2012 at 07:44 AM

agreed. my guess is the repairs won't be all that great and that they will have the same scenario-or something similar- further on down the coast. they were lucky this time, perhaps not so the next time. get 'em out asap i say.

comitan - 9-2-2012 at 08:19 AM

My only hope is they don't get it fixed for another month or so before heading south. Because this is a serous weather time of the year(Hurricanes)

Mateo-Feo - 9-4-2012 at 06:07 PM

I just left there last Wed. the family was doing good. They were very nice people and spent a night in our camp as we kept offering beer, tequila, and good conversation. We unloaded as many supplies as we could, made a store run for them, and also offered to help make contact or hitch a ride, which once again William refused although Lea seemed interested. We did what we could for them, but it really seems like the help is there if they want it. Good people from what I saw. Intentions and true fellings? Not sure

Nemo55 - 9-4-2012 at 06:08 PM

Good on ya Mateo-Feo

woody with a view - 9-4-2012 at 06:31 PM

it's prolly just me but, does it seem like Granny wants to rule the roost and go flying off into the wilds of baja to show her daughter how screwed up she thinks her daughter is, running off with "that" man and all?

enough people have been around and would have gotten a feeling if there was serious tension and ill feelings going on. every picture is filled with smiles and only Granny seems to want to end the story book cruise.

i can see it now, Granny goes marching up the coast in the front seat of a Army troop carrier making all sorts of wild accusations, well, fill in the blanks......

let them be. help them get back on the water and let nature take its course-hurricanes notwithstanding!

just me again, but i think Granny needs to chill.

thebajarunner - 9-4-2012 at 06:57 PM

There is a famous parable about the guy sitting on his roof after Hurricane Katrina, floodwaters up to the eaves.

Rowboat comes by, guy yells to climb aboard..

"No thanks- God is going to save me," comes the reply

Fishing boat comes by, guy yells to climb aboard...

"No thanks- God is going to save me," the reply.

Helicopter arrives, megaphone shouts to grab the ladder...

"No thanks- God is going to save me." the usual response.

Finally a large tidal surge swamps the house, the guy drowns, he arrives at St. Peters Gate- demands to talk to God.

God arrives- "So, Sir, why did you not save me?"

God- "I sent a rowboat, I sent a fishing boat, and I sent a helicopter- guess you just wanted to save yourself."

Nemo55 - 9-4-2012 at 07:11 PM

I figure if someone's wife or girlfriend can get her and the kids away for even an hour,then all will become clear.
Woody might have a point, but sometimes that old Stockholm syndrome plays a part.

Mulegena - 9-4-2012 at 08:01 PM

Concerned about these folks out there in this weather on water's edge. They must be gettin' hammered by this series of storms which recently are an offshoot of Ileana and now John-- that's what put them aground in the first place wasn't it, seasonal storm-surge? Seems a dangerous place to be at the moment.

TMW - 9-4-2012 at 09:45 PM

As it's been said there are several sides to any story but the more I read this the more I'm inclined to think like Woody. Of course the woman might want to leave, stranded on a beach in a foreign country with three kids and a broken boat that may not be fixed for some time and relying on strangers for food and water. I'm sure there is a lot of stress there on both sides.

surfer jim - 9-4-2012 at 10:29 PM

I just hope they head south when they get boat fixed.

mtgoat666 - 9-5-2012 at 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by comitan
My only hope is they don't get it fixed for another month or so before heading south. Because this is a serous weather time of the year(Hurricanes)

one good wind + surf + high tide = smash that boat to pieces, so story should be wrapped up pretty quick thru a late season hurricane or the first of the winter n pacific storms

i appreciate the family's spirit of adventure. the mother can call granny after the boat is destroyed,... until then, let the adventure continue!

larryC - 9-5-2012 at 08:24 AM

The last I heard they had the boat pulled up above the surf line and just waiting on supplies to repair the damage and then get on their way. After looking at the operation though I think it is just an accident going somewhere else to happen. Hope not.
Larry

pappy - 9-5-2012 at 12:53 PM

she is proabably acring like everything is a-ok just to keep the guy from pounding on her and/or the kids. it's what he's done in the past, right?

i know a lady who lived in that kind of environment for 25 years, until it really came down to life or death situation. nobody really knew or had any idea what was happening all those years until she finally escaped... just like this family, it was all hugs and smiles to those they came in contact with, done so out of fear of the abuser....

DianaT - 9-5-2012 at 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by pappy
she is proabably acring like everything is a-ok just to keep the guy from pounding on her and/or the kids. it's what he's done in the past, right?

I would like to believe Woody's idea, but I fear what you say is a very real possibility.

It is not uncommon for an abused woman to appear to everyone as very happy --- often out of fear for herself AND for her children. If someone takes her aside, she may insist all is well, and it might not be. Even when they are removed from the situation, they can protest and insist on going back to the abuser. If she is abused, it is a very sensitive situation as she and the children would need REAL protection is taken away.

I hope they are sincerely happy, and grandma is wrong. I applaud all of you who have helped them---food, parts, etc., but it would probably require a professional to recognize it there is abuse or not --- not an easy job. May they all be safe and may grandma be wrong.

DavidE - 9-5-2012 at 02:36 PM

Any thoughts I have are for the children. They have a right to love, a stable home, health care, nutritious food, and excellent education.

woody with a view - 9-6-2012 at 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pappy
she is proabably acring like everything is a-ok just to keep the guy from pounding on her and/or the kids. it's what he's done in the past, right?

i know a lady who lived in that kind of environment for 25 years, until it really came down to life or death situation. nobody really knew or had any idea what was happening all those years until she finally escaped... just like this family, it was all hugs and smiles to those they came in contact with, done so out of fear of the abuser....

Maybe, and maybe i'll win the lotto this week!!! i would expect one of the kids to be scowling often, if not being outright peeed off all the time if there was any real abuse going on. kids are pretty smart about when their mom is getting beat up.....

who knows?

Mexitron - 9-6-2012 at 03:02 PM

Good going Mateo! Tough call on the real situation, but if the kids are any indication things aren't so bad---they were having a fun time of it when we saw them.

Mateo-Feo - 9-6-2012 at 05:58 PM

Me too, Kids looked happy and playful. We gave them candy and smiles. He was looking for resin and fiberglass if anyone heads that way

BajaNomad - 9-10-2012 at 11:59 AM

To the best of anyone's knowledge, does the situation still remain the same? Any recent contact with them?

Thanks,
-
Doug

larryC - 9-10-2012 at 12:24 PM

The last I heard, which was less than a week ago, they were waiting for Mario McLeash to bring them some fibre glass and resin so they could repair the bottom and get underway. My contact guy who was camped on the beach and had an internet connection has broken camp and left so no more info is available through him.
Larry

Nemo55 - 9-10-2012 at 12:25 PM

Kids are the worst indicator of trouble in the family,,mostly only evident in classroom environments....the rest of the time they will show outwardly Great Joy because mom and Dad aren't fighting at that moment.
Also,,the kids will lie through their teeth (bless them) in order to keep the family unit to-gether, unless they are terrified of one of the parents.
It's not always as it seems,,,and is most cases is most definitely not...

shari - 9-10-2012 at 12:37 PM

If anyone is going to visit them...maybe pass on the offer that if they can get a patch on the boat, they could easily pull it up on the beach here to work on it and get things back on track. We are only a couple days sailing...at least there are stores, internet etc here and people to help them out and possible rides north.

SHARI=SWEETHEART

captkw - 9-10-2012 at 06:52 PM

YOU AND YOUR OFFER IS WHAT MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A CAPTAIN AND A BAJA,MEX FAN !! GOOD ON YA !! K&T..."IF WE ALL HELPED EACH OTHER JUST A LITTLE,,, IT WILL BE A NICER PLACE TO LIVE"...CREW MEMBER SPACESHIP EARTH !! K&T :cool:

susanna - 9-10-2012 at 08:49 PM

Wow! they could write a book about their experience and how people came to help them. That was wonderful how some people made a sacrifice i am sure to get to them and bring food and supplies.May God Bless these folks for their efforts.Hope they get back safe wherever they go.

shari - 9-10-2012 at 08:56 PM

just paying forward all the amazing help I got when shipwrecked. and lost most everything..within a day, I had a job, a place to live and a couple good samaritans amigos who helped me get back on my feet AND taught me to surf in Costa Rica...those were the days eh!!!...the stuff stories are made of!

imagine the stories those kids will have to tell to their grandchildren!

Sending best wishes to this family tonight.

Mulegena - 9-10-2012 at 09:08 PM

It would be the best of worlds if they could safely make their way to Shari's beach.

She's been a light and offered safe-harbour to many who've been lost, has given support
while they righted their course and cheered as they bravely cast off into new adventures.

Besides all that good stuff, Shari's just plain fun to be with!
Those kids would love the blowhole, too.

Nemo55 - 9-10-2012 at 10:47 PM

Couldnt have said it better myself K&T ,,

"Nemo55" (Alex) Lost somewhere down in the engineering section of Spaceship Earth ....just Oiling things up.

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Originally posted by captkw
YOU AND YOUR OFFER IS WHAT MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A CAPTAIN AND A BAJA,MEX FAN !! GOOD ON YA !! K&T..."IF WE ALL HELPED EACH OTHER JUST A LITTLE,,, IT WILL BE A NICER PLACE TO LIVE"...CREW MEMBER SPACESHIP EARTH !! K&T :cool:

captkw - 9-11-2012 at 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shari
just paying forward all the amazing help I got when shipwrecked. and lost most everything.. HOLA,Would love to hear more about that storey !! do tell !!

shari - 9-11-2012 at 06:50 AM

well Capt....you're just gonna have to sail in here and sit around the fire with us to hear those stories in person...parts of them arent fit for the general public :lol:

....particularly the part about the dashing young man who swam out and rescued me. When he got to the boat that was mostly underwater, I asked him to save my little ditch bag first that had my journal, camera and negatives in it....so he swam through raging surf with one arm holding my bag over his head...then he swam back out again and I made him swim my guitar safely to shore...he must have thought I was one crazy chick...the third time he swam out, I let him rescue ME! I guess I was just in shock and not really thinking clearly... pretty cool he saved my journal though which had all the songs I had written at sea in it too. Turns out the guy was the son of a president of another country in hiding...oh the intrigue right!

He arranged for me to live on a 93' sailboat that had been confiscated for drug running and got me a job in the bar Bananas at the head of the dock in Puntarenas...wonder if that bar is still there? parts of our wrecked boat were on the wall....the skipper married a young tica and lived happily ever after.

now thats a sea story..cool!!

captkw - 9-11-2012 at 06:52 AM

shari - 9-11-2012 at 06:59 AM

oh that's just the part I could tell here!!! :rolleyes:

It was a two year trip I did sola crewing for sailors...got in the middle of a hurricaine and blown offshore 200 miles of the Gulf of tuantepec (sp), spent 10 days drifting in the doldrums, worked in the panama canal as a line handler, jumped ship(to avoid another shipwreck) and worked in the Galapagos..nearly got married there...that's a whole other story that brings a smile to my face!

so I have been thinking alot about this family and the stories & characters they are building!...you know the saying...what doesnt kill you makes you stronger!

I have met many cruising families with children who are incredible and much better educated and worldly than kids who have only gone to school.
But I certainly am concerned about the children having enough food and water...and the state of this boat.

a-firm on all !!

captkw - 9-11-2012 at 07:08 AM

thats a story that would make a great book and a hell of a night around a baja beach fire !! K&T :cool:

off to the marina for work....everybody have a great !! "and live like you mean it..tomorrow may never come to be, for all of us"

woody with a view - 9-11-2012 at 07:34 AM

now it all makes sense why Shari is such a cool chick!

BajaNomad - 9-17-2012 at 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by larryC
they were waiting for Mario McLeash to bring them some fibre glass and resin so they could repair the bottom and get underway.

Is there any contact information for Mr. McLeash?

You can contact me privately if needed.

Thank you.

Debra - 9-18-2012 at 03:24 PM

Forgive me for jumping in here after long months away........

This really scares me, I haven't heard of anyone calling the PD that Jorge offered up that this man may be wanted for abuse of his family, has that happened? Grand-ma may be being over protective/drama queen/buttinski who knows, I would have called first mention to get a grip on the facts.

The kids and Mom look really happy in the pics. but, as Nemo says that is something children learn to do.

I hope to God that all is as it seems to those of you that have met them, but, we have seen time and time again wives and children that are killed with the neighbors never having a clue as to what was really going on.

I pray that the boat will be repaired and they will be onto their next adventure (at Shari's) with the kids having wonderful stories to tell about a loving family and their time on the beach in Baja.

I maybe should keep my dos centovis to myself, but, those of you that know me know that that ain't happening. Gran-ma should stay put, no Baja experience? Another person to rescue might not be a stellar idea.

Debra - 9-18-2012 at 06:11 PM

I recieved an U2U that my comment about Gran-ma might have not come across as I meant,

I'm sorry if that is the case. I didn't mean to call G-ma a "buttinski" What I was trying to say, I was afraid she might be seen that way.

She is in fear for her children. What I shoud have said is that I've been exactly where she is and know her fear. For her to go to Baja on her own having no experience (I assume this because she is asking about how to get a passport) would not be a good idea. I would fear for her safety

I'm still asking, has anyone call the local PD to find out if there is a record that this woman and her children might be in trouble?

?????

desertcpl - 9-18-2012 at 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Debra
I recieved an U2U that my comment about Gran-ma might have not come across as I meant,

I'm sorry if that is the case. I didn't mean to call G-ma a "buttinski" What I was trying to say, I was afraid she might be seen that way.

She is in fear for her children. What I shoud have said is that I've been exactly where she is and know her fear. For her to go to Baja on her own having no experience (I assume this because she is asking about how to get a passport) would not be a good idea. I would fear for her safety

I'm still asking, has anyone call the local PD to find out if there is a record that this woman and her children might be in trouble?

?????

I agree with you,

Nemo55 - 9-18-2012 at 08:29 PM

Ditto.......

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Originally posted by desertcpl

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I agree with you,

luv2fish - 9-19-2012 at 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Debra
Forgive me for jumping in here after long months away........

This really scares me, I haven't heard of anyone calling the PD that Jorge offered up that this man may be wanted for abuse of his family, has that happened? Grand-ma may be being over protective/drama queen/buttinski who knows, I would have called first mention to get a grip on the facts.

The kids and Mom look really happy in the pics. but, as Nemo says that is something children learn to do.

I hope to God that all is as it seems to those of you that have met them, but, we have seen time and time again wives and children that are killed with the neighbors never having a clue as to what was really going on.

I pray that the boat will be repaired and they will be onto their next adventure (at Shari's) with the kids having wonderful stories to tell about a loving family and their time on the beach in Baja.

I maybe should keep my dos centovis to myself, but, those of you that know me know that that ain't happening. Gran-ma should stay put, no Baja experience? Another person to rescue might not be a stellar idea.

luv2fish - 9-19-2012 at 07:55 AM

Quote:

Well if she's anything like my Mother in law, she is a buttinski... :lol:

...... Im sure she's just concerned for the children as any other grandmother would be. Our thought and prayers go out to them.

David K - 9-19-2012 at 08:17 AM

The lack of passport is not preventing anyone from going to Mexico, or returning home*. So grandma shouldn't let that be in the way... However, she could have received one in the time this thread has been going!

I think this thread should be kept near the top of 'Today's Posts' until we know they are safely on their way, or mom and the kids are with grandma.

*My son recently returned from 2 months at Mag Bay with no passport or birth certificate... (he is 23 and knows that was dumb) and never was asked for either on the 1600 mile round trip... and crossing home was no problem, no secondary... Just a driver's License for ID.

Debra - 9-21-2012 at 11:09 AM

My comment about her asking about a passport I meant as evidence that she is not Baja savy, not that she needs one.

I guess there has been no new news?

woody with a view - 9-21-2012 at 11:21 AM

all you concerned folks and none of you have the time to call the cops?

please do and let us know if the guy is being set up or not. i'd like to be proven wrong....

Bajaboy - 9-21-2012 at 11:25 AM

DK-maybe get in touch with the Governor :?:

Debra - 9-21-2012 at 11:39 AM

Woody, I was just writing down the info. from the G-ma and asking myself why I'm asking if anyone has..........why haven't I?

Before I make the call, please everyone chime in with opinions and thoughts, my only fear is that I might make things worse.

woody with a view - 9-21-2012 at 11:49 AM

I'll just say i've seen both sides of this issue many times. i think it's BS on granny's part. call the cops and find out. you don't have to tell them anything, just ask if there is a warrant for the guy, that you may know where he is. you don't have to tell them everything.

Debra - 9-21-2012 at 12:02 PM

G-ma didn't give a last name for William that I've seen, I would have to give too much info. to make the police know who I was asking about.

Anybody else?

larryC - 9-21-2012 at 12:08 PM

I have been there and met the family. At that time I did not get the impression that there were any problems. Other than the obvious boat on the beach stuff.
Larry

redmesa - 9-21-2012 at 12:26 PM

Are they even still there?
If there was warrant out for the guy why wouldn't the grandmother call the police.

bajaguy - 9-21-2012 at 12:33 PM

I think since the grandmother has all of the information and knows where they are, she should be the one calling the police in either the US and/or Mexico........let her deal with it instead of involving Nomads....in what might be a family squabble.

Debra - 9-21-2012 at 01:22 PM

I think you are all right, G=ma must have the info. from Jorge that is needed. She must know where they are. I'm going to stay out of it, I just pray they are alright and I'm not making a mistake. Thanks!

rdrrm8e - 9-21-2012 at 01:33 PM

Still there :wow:

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...

[Edited on 9-21-2012 by rdrrm8e]

David K - 9-21-2012 at 02:06 PM

Good thing that photo of them picking up a live turtle isn't on Nomad... annoying the wildlife (oh and cross dune driving, beach driving, etc.) really gets some worked up here!

It looks like an epic trip, still... except for the new Jeep down to the doors in mud... nice of the Tacoma to help get him out! Oh Ken, where are you?

desertcpl - 9-21-2012 at 02:23 PM

i said it before and I will say it again, this whole thing smells like fish, I would think at least the kids need to go home,,
are they going to school ?

woody with a view - 9-21-2012 at 02:31 PM

the school of hard knocks taught many their greatest lessons in life. i bet they dig the whole thing!

BajaNomad - 9-23-2012 at 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by rdrrm8e
Still there :wow:

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...

It appears that the Mateo-Feo that posted that report on BD, also noted in this thread (on 9/4) that he had left Punta Cono on Wed, Aug 29:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=61752&pag...

The BD report also notes the trip dates of "Aug.25-sept.3".

[Edited on 9-23-2012 by BajaNomad]

Paulina - 9-23-2012 at 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Good thing that photo of them picking up a live turtle isn't on Nomad... annoying the wildlife ...

David,
It would be my guess that the turtle was dead. It's eyes looked whited out, it's flippers and neck hanging loose. All of the live turtles I come across while on my paddle board can't get away from me fast enough. I've snuck up on a few, but they dart away speedy quick as soon as they notice me. I can't imagine one letting a panga pull up on it and be lifted out of the water.
That was a great report.

P>*)))>{

shari - 9-23-2012 at 12:09 PM

we have found alot of dead and dying turtles on the beaches around here and it's easy to pick up a foundering turtle and hold it up for a photo...they are weak and probably dying poor souls...probably not great eating anyway! :rolleyes:

coconaco - 9-24-2012 at 02:47 PM

?

Marla Daily - 9-24-2012 at 07:35 PM

Sure hope this family is in a safe shelter for the storm heading up the peninsula! No news????

Ateo - 9-24-2012 at 08:41 PM

They probably have no idea...........unless they monitor radio, or people are coming by.

But Punta Eugenia will keep a ton of waves outta there -- if it doesn't head more North before turning inland -- which is rare.

But who knows?

Ateo - 9-24-2012 at 08:43 PM

I'd say they're safe as of now.

shari - 9-24-2012 at 08:57 PM

I hope they arent camped in an arroyo....many people dont realize some of those nice sandy camp spots are because it's an arroyo.

Mulegena - 9-24-2012 at 09:21 PM

Yes, to know they're in safe harbor would be so good.
They're on my mind increasingly as the weather reports turn more serious for the coastal area.

As to the lay of the land and the law of nature here in Baja, it really takes personal experience to gain the educated eye to read the land. For example, I was driving Mex-1 with a newcomer to Baja. She has yet to experience a hurricane or see the desert inundated with rain. She remarked how beautiful it is right now down in the arroyos which are filled with greenery and flowers. Then she asked why the highway was cut up on the sides of the mountains when it would be so much simpler to have built the highway in the naturally meandering arroyos. I simply explained that when it rains here in the desert those arroyos run fast with flash floods! No further explanation was needed and hope she is forever spared the direct experience.

I surely hope that beautiful family is in a safe harbor...

Mexitron - 9-24-2012 at 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by shari
I hope they arent camped in an arroyo....many people dont realize some of those nice sandy camp spots are because it's an arroyo.

Shari---they are camped on a nice elevated sandy beach in the most sheltered spot you could be at Cono----no worries there unless they take a direct hit. Their tents, on the other hand, aren't very strong---we left them ours but it was a cheapy as well...there might be a fisherman's shack or two which they could get into out there, or of course their boat, in the event of hard rain and some wind.

shari - 9-25-2012 at 06:25 AM

thanks for that Mexitron...boy, a shipwreck and a hurricaine...starting to sound like my sailing adventure!!

Mateo-Feo - 9-26-2012 at 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Paulina

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Originally posted by David K
Good thing that photo of them picking up a live turtle isn't on Nomad... annoying the wildlife ...

No dead turtles. She was alive and well and still is. She is a local to Bahia de los Angeles. Laid her eggs about a week before that. Turtles sun themselves and the shell starts to dry out, sometimes leaving an air pocket underneath. Makes them easy to catch and is part of the reason why they end up on the menu. I grew up saving sea turtles in Los Cabos. (Asupmatoma) is my godfathers reservation. Sorry if anyone was offended

[Edited on 9-27-2012 by Mateo-Feo]

Paulina - 9-26-2012 at 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Mateo-Feo

No dead turtles. She was alive and well and still is. She is a local to Bahia de los Angeles. Laid her eggs about a week before that.
[Edited on 9-27-2012 by Mateo-Feo]

Good to know, thanks for the reply. As I said before, great report. It looks like you found the right (baja)girl. Congrats on your wedding and many years of Baja together.

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degoma - 9-26-2012 at 10:42 PM

We sent a care package to William and Lea with friends who were going to camp near Pta. Cono. They delivered the package on Friday September 14th.

The have just returned and here is what they report:

When we arrived at the Trimaran we saw the kids splashing and playing in the water; Lea was with them. The boat was completely out of the water and there were two Mexicans on the deck. We asked them where William was and they pointed into the boat. William came out and we introduced ourselves. He said the patching on the hull was all finished and in a few days they should be ready to go [into the water?]. Everyone seemed happy. They were very appreciative of the care package.

That’s it; there was no mention of where they might be going. The fish camp is in operation now so there should be plenty of help to get the boat back in the water. I would think the fisherman would warn William if a hurricane was threatening. For what it’s worth I gave William the hurricane lecture when we were there. I advised them to seek shelter higher up in the boulders if it got really knarly.

Mexitron - 9-27-2012 at 06:15 AM

Awesome---hope they got out of there...and I hope they let us know where they end up.

Mateo-Feo - 9-28-2012 at 08:07 AM

I wish I was stuck on that beach....

Mexitron - 10-9-2012 at 06:26 AM

Bump....any news if they got out of there?

cono gypsies

timmurphy - 10-13-2012 at 07:39 PM

just got back....they are still there...a stupid ,sad,and pitiful situation.Forget the romantic notions of being "free spirits".It is just plain ludicrous.

tripledigitken - 10-13-2012 at 07:51 PM

Did they complete the repair to the hull?

larryC - 10-14-2012 at 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by timmurphy
just got back....they are still there...a stupid ,sad,and pitiful situation.Forget the romantic notions of being "free spirits".It is just plain ludicrous.

Tim
Can you be a little more descriptive? What is ludicrous about their situation. Are they even trying to get the boat back in the water? Are they getting any help from the locals that are at the fish camps? I know the weather is going to start getting worse and getting much colder and some larger surf is most likly on the way, hope they didn't miss their window of opportunity.
Larry

surfer jim - 10-14-2012 at 08:07 AM

These people are "professional" freeloaders. They are NOT trying to repair boat and sail on. This is home until people stop bringing them stuff. Only then will they move and do the same thing again somewhere else.

bigmike58 - 10-14-2012 at 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by surfer jim
These people are "professional" freeloaders. They are NOT trying to repair boat and sail on. This is home until people stop bringing them stuff. Only then will they move and do the same thing again somewhere else.

Wow!! that would suck if true. There was some good "nomad" peeps that went out of there way to help these folks..what a shame.

Mateo-Feo - 10-14-2012 at 09:21 AM

Yeah I got this impression as well

Mulegena - 10-14-2012 at 09:45 AM

and the children... what about them?

Mexitron - 10-14-2012 at 09:45 AM

I can imagine much better situations to be freeloaders.

Please Tim, as Larry said, more info would help.

norte - 10-14-2012 at 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mulegena
and the children... what about them?

Their learning!

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