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monoloco - 11-8-2013 at 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Hook
One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.

Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades, attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?

Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?

I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?

Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........? :lol:

[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]

I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco

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I don't believe homosexuals are born as such. I believe everybody is a product of their environment.

How do you explain the cases of twins where one is gay and one is straight?

Which can't be established until well into their life....therefore, products of their environment.

Now...the gay and straight Siamese Twins are a real mystery. :lol:

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 09:01 AM

A good example of "products of their environment":

http://shop.getty.edu/products/graciela-iturbide-juchitan-97...

http://www.oaxacatimes.com/inprint/currentissuemenu/34-cultu...

http://oaxacatimes.com/8-otblog/28-juchitans-cultural-curios...

http://geo-mexico.com/?p=7789

wessongroup - 11-8-2013 at 09:18 AM

Think sometimes it's pretty simple ...

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JoeJustJoe - 11-8-2013 at 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco

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Originally posted by DENNIS

I don't believe homosexuals are born as such. I believe everybody is a product of their environment.

How do you explain the cases of twins where one is gay and one is straight?

On the surface it would be pretty much ignorant to believe sexual orientation is 100 percent a product of the environment especially since the majority of people on the planet Earth from about 90% to 96% identify as being straight. You would think if environmental factors played such a high role there would be more gay and especially bi people in the world. And because of the way homosexuals have been treated in the world, if human sexuality was just a matter learned behavior, it should also be pretty easy to unlearn the behavior, but that's not the case. Most people can't unlearn being straight or gay.

There is also the fact that many straight or gays from the time they were a small child as young as 5 or 6, they knew what their sexual orientation was, although they had no idea what sex was. Think back to your youngest days, and I bet some "Nomad" members that special girl or boy of the opposite sex, or same sex you had a special crushed on.

That's not to say that in some cases homosexuality can't have environmental influences and become an acquired taste like a fine wine, but clearly sexual behavior must have the overwhelming strongest influences from nature that's inherited or even in genes.

Also according to most psychologist that study sexual behavior, they don't see sexual orientation as either being boxed in only two choices of just gay or straight, like being either black or white, but rather they see many shades of gray and see sexual orientation on a sliding scale that's more to one side or another, but that scale sometimes shifts around.

It makes sense because even most gays have had sexual experiences with the opposite sex, and have even been married to the opposite sex. Only a small percentage of the population identifies of being gay, and this number is probably less than 10 percent, but according to a few studies, up to 50 percent of all men, a very high percentage of men have had at least one same-sex encounter sometime in their life!

[Edited on 11-8-2013 by JoeJustJoe]

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
if human sexuality was just a matter learned behavior,

I never mentioned "learned behavior." I did , however, make an allusion to learned preferences.

Skipjack Joe - 11-8-2013 at 10:24 AM

Since there is a genetic component to being gay and since the gays do not pass it on to their descendants (they have none) it stands to reason that it exists in the straight population. Therefore it can be isolated and identified. It will be interesting to see if prospective spouses will test one another before marriage in order to not have to deal with the issues that gays have to deal with in their lives. Or they simply may not want to have a gay child. Or they may want to have a gay child. Somehow I think the gay community would be opposed to such screenings.

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Regarding the idea that all those that don't look favorably on gays are homophobes: I've met many latin american and asian women that do so and they obviously can't be homophobes. My ex would never tire watching Nathan Lanes performance in the Bird Cage.

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Since there is a genetic component to being gay

"Is there a Gay Gene?"

http://www.narth.org/docs/istheregene.html

dasubergeek - 11-8-2013 at 10:55 AM

Are you really quoting NARTH, Dennis? Come on, at least make a stab at the appearance of neutrality. That's like using a study by the Brookings Institution to prove a point about global warming.

Flamboyant queens mincing around and lisping are to the larger LGBTQ community as funeral-protesting, sign-waving Westboro Baptist Church freaks are to the larger Christian community: the fringe.

I promise you know a lot more gay people than you think you do, because most LGBTQ people don't walk around going, "Hi, my name is Beulah and I'm a lesbian." It's a facet of one's identity, like being tall or liking to go fishing.

durrelllrobert - 11-8-2013 at 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco

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I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.

What ever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell"? The Cartels still abide by that policy.

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by dasubergeek

I promise you know a lot more gay people than you think you do,

Actually, I don't think about it at all unless I'm enjoying one of my favorite TV shows, "Will and Grace."
See how tolerant I am? :lol:

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
What ever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell"?

Even the military got rid of that. Maybe it should have been, "Don't Ask.......Don't Tell........Don't Touch."

motoged - 11-8-2013 at 11:32 AM

I was just thinking....any gay or lesbian or bi Nomad would not likely be open or "out" on this forum due to the type of reception ( ie. rejection) they would experience.

The replies seem to demonstrate that some males here are intolerant while others are....kinda like there out on the calle.

Mostly male replies...it would be interesting to see if the women are more tolerant. :light:

Chupacabra - 11-8-2013 at 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

I never mentioned "learned behavior." I did , however, make an allusion to learned preferences.

Obviously you spend a great deal of time thinking about gays; you seem to be the resident expert on homosexual pathogenesis.

Just sayin'.

motoged - 11-8-2013 at 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Chupacabra

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Originally posted by DENNIS

I never mentioned "learned behavior." I did , however, make an allusion to learned preferences.

Obviously you spend a great deal of time thinking about gays; you seem to be the resident expert on homosexual pathogenesis.

Just sayin'.

Yes....Dennis is just "Coming out" with this issue :biggrin:

There used to be ...

durrelllrobert - 11-8-2013 at 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Since there is a genetic component to being gay

"Is there a Gay Gene?"

http://www.narth.org/docs/istheregene.html

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R53S0VHQ1s‎

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Chupacabra

Obviously you spend a great deal of time to thinking about gays; you seem to be the resident expert on homosexual pathogenesis.

Just sayin'.

No. Not an inordinate amount of time. During Flu season, I devote a lot of time thinking about coughs, runny noses and diarrhea. This topic is just getting me tuned up.

Just sayin' what? You didn't finish your comment. Are your Protease Inhibitors complicating your thought processes? Something sure as hell is.
Don't leave home without your bleach bottle. It's the way-too-late safe thing to do.

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[Edited on 11-8-2013 by DENNIS]

wessongroup - 11-8-2013 at 12:25 PM

While in school ... too long ago than I wish to think about ... we studied animal populations ... this guy kinda nailed it IMHO

John B. Calhoun (May 11, 1917 – September 7, 1995) was an American ethologist and behavioral researcher noted for his studies of population density and its effects on behavior. He claimed that the bleak effects of overpopulation on rodents were a grim model for the future of the human race. During his studies, Calhoun coined the term "behavioral sink" to describe aberrant behaviors in overcrowded population density situations and “beautiful ones” to describe passive individuals who withdrew from all social interaction. His work gained world recognition. He spoke at conferences around the world and his opinion was sought by groups as diverse as NASA and the District of Columbia’s Panel on overcrowding in local jails. Calhoun's rat studies were used as a basis in the development of Edward T. Hall's 1966 proxemics theories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

[Edited on 11-8-2013 by wessongroup]

vgabndo - 11-8-2013 at 01:00 PM

I have tremendous respect for the courage it takes for LGBTQ people to come-out and march pridefully in the streets. I can imagine the courage it takes, because atheists are just below gays on the ladder of hatred in America and you sure don't see us jeopardizing our jobs or social status marching for our liberty to pursue happiness.

I would expect Mexicans would have a generally pretty progressive view about sexual preference. Wasn't there a hugely popular day time Mexican TV host who was a tranny? Look at the social status of a Mexican dwarf. Things are different SOB. :lol:

JoeJustJoe - 11-8-2013 at 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

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Originally posted by monoloco

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[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]

I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.

What ever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell"? The Cartels still abide by that policy.

Good point Durrelllrobert and you kinda destroy Hook's argument about gays shoving their lifestyle down America's throat with gay parades and openly display of affection towards other gays.

The fact is gays have been persecuted, prosecuted and discriminated against in America, and around the world, especially in the US military, because even when the gays used to be in the closet and minding their own business. They were often drummed out of the military for supposedly violations of DADT. BTW Don't ask, Don't tell" was I believe co-written by Republican Senator, wide stance, "I'm not gay," Larry Craig. ( I guess wide stance Larry wanted gays in the closet like him)

One look at certain people, and you know they're gay, others it's impossible to tell. There is no denying that gays are attacked and discriminated against just because of their lifestyle choice, or rather their sexual orientation.

The parades are as much as standing up for their basic human and constitutional rights, as it is for just coming out and being proud of who they are, and partying and having fun.

[Edited on 11-8-2013 by JoeJustJoe]

motoged - 11-8-2013 at 01:14 PM

A southern Mexican city, Juchitan de Zaragoza is historically noted to be tolerant and accepting of gay men....

http://www.3news.co.nz/Gay-men-celebrated-annually-in-Zapotec-Indian-town/tabid/417/articleID/130849/Default.aspx#.Un1EayeJSRM

I have spent a few days there on different trips to and from Central America or when touring southern Mexico. As I was buying fabrics, I stopped there because the women have a particular style of huipiles that are unique to this area...my encounters with the cross-dressers as well as less flamboyant gay men was nothing other than professional, friendly, and fun.

An informative blog page worth reading.... :

http://homendunroamin.wordpress.com/2013/07/20/of-festivals-and-fruit/

[img]http://homendunroamin.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/img_2592.jpg?w=276&h=300[/img]

[img]http://homendunroamin.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/img_2608.jpg?w=521&h=1024[/img]

[img]http://homendunroamin.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/img_2643.jpg?w=624&h=1024[/img]

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DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 01:40 PM

And then, we have J. Edgar........the scourge of communism:

http://tinyurl.com/jw76az8

DanO - 11-8-2013 at 02:29 PM

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CULVER CITY - Tacomiendo

That place is indeed THE GRINDS. You'd have to add PEPE'S to that list, though.

Haven't been to Pepe's but I drove past it last weekend on my way to my storage locker. Will have to check it out.

Oh you have to try the Al Pastor. I believe it's the SECOND best authentic taco joint in L.A. #1 being Ricky's Fish Tacos in chinatown.

Also of great importance up here is Guerrilla Tacos. DO NOT MISS THAT! He's in Culver City in the mornings but you have to look him up on twitter to find out where.

I will check out both and I definitely need to get down to Ricky's at the new location. Have you been to Tacos Punta Cabras in Santa Monica? Excellent fish tacos, tostadas and c-cktails.

Cisco - 11-8-2013 at 03:39 PM

"In 1996, the U.S. Senate voted 50–49 against the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, a bill to outlaw job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Yesterday, the Senate passed ENDA, 64–32. But the bigger story is what didn’t happen. Only one senator spoke against the bill, and only about religious exemptions. The political resistance has completely collapsed.

The Senate’s 1996 schedule didn’t allow much time for debate. But of the 50 senators who voted down the bill, at least seven spoke on the floor against it. Here’s some of what they said:

1. [U]nder this section, homosexuality and heterosexuality must be treated entirely alike. Suppose a male teacher kisses his female spouse goodbye in front of the schoolchildren in the morning as she drops him off at school. Some might find such warmth and affection between husband and wife a good thing for the children to see. But Loudoun County would have to fire that male teacher before this bill would permit the county to fire a male teacher for kissing his male partner in front of the children at school. … [F]orcing Loudoun County to treat both situations the same, in terms of role models for schoolchildren and the other concerns parents and educators might have, is wrong.

If you have heartfelt convictions and beliefs should you, once you step out of church, be forced to hire someone whose sexual orientation offends you?

Bisexual, by definition, means promiscuous, having relations with both male and female. We are going to give that a Federal preferred protected status under this legislation.

There are thousands of former homosexuals, individuals who once were engaged in a homosexual lifestyle, who have changed that lifestyle and have repudiated it and find themselves to be engaged in heterosexual lifestyles. So it is clear to me that, while there may be a genetic base for the activity in some respects, it is clear that it is an activity of choice in other respects and that it is a choice which can be made and unmade.

The signal we send in this bill is the wrong signal. It contains seeds of real instability and inappropriate activity, seeds of litigation which could grow way out of hand and send the wrong signals to young people and provide a special standing and class—not based upon existence and construction but upon conduct. Not based upon sex but upon sexual activity.

ENDA would elevate sexual orientation to a much higher level, giving Federal protection and sanction, almost a Federal acceptance to promiscuity.

Should the Senate run roughshod over the concerns of parents and educators about having homosexuals teach their kids?

The American people have never regarded homosexuality or bisexuality as the moral or legal equivalent of heterosexuality, whether in the workplace or not.

Is [Congress] now going to tell every private employer in America that, regardless of his or her own moral judgment, homosexuality and bisexuality are just another orientation that Congress has decreed to be irrelevant?

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., delivered the closing statement against the bill. “ENDA, in my opinion, is part of a larger attempt to equate, by law … homosexuality, bisexuality, or heterosexuality. This is part of a larger campaign to validate or to approve conduct that remains illegal in many States,” he said. “It would put the full force of the Federal Government behind the campaign to validate a lifestyle that is unacceptable in many areas.” Lott concluded that “this legislation is out of sync with the majority of American people."

This week, as the Senate reconsidered ENDA, no one repeated those arguments. In the floor debate, no one equated homosexuality or bisexuality with promiscuity. No one claimed that homosexuality was a choice or was relevant to employment. No one suggested that gay people shouldn’t teach kids or that it was fine to reject a job applicant because her orientation “offends you.”

The Senate Republican leader said nothing. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah—the man who in 1996 defended the right of Loudoun County to fire a gay teacher, but not a straight one, for kissing his partner while being dropped off at school—voted for the bill this time. And Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind.—who protested in 1996 that ENDA would “give the Federal stamp of approval to activities that are still considered illegal in many States”—was reduced yesterday to requesting broader exemptions for religious freedom.

The vote on ENDA was far from unanimous. But the silence of its opponents is deafening. They know that the tide has turned against them. Many Americans still think that homosexuality is a choice or an illness, that gays shouldn’t be teachers, and that any employer should be free to make hiring decisions based on sexual orientation. But these Americans can no longer find a politician willing to say such things on the Senate floor."

motoged - 11-8-2013 at 03:39 PM

Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

DanO - 11-8-2013 at 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Tolerance is subjective and personal, except when others insist you see things their way. Then...it's oppressive bullcrap.
If pride is a result of accomplishments, then gays have that earned distinction, but I don't have to celebrate that.
It ain't my thing.
Add to that, they aren't celebrating a birth right. Only Royals do that.
But, then again, they, the self-righteous gay community can be a royal pain..[I won't say, "in the arse" because it would just encourage them.]
Have fun, homos, but don't tell me I have to understand, like, or accept it.
Stay out of my life.

willardguy - 11-8-2013 at 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by DanO

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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .

no, youre good! :lol:

dasubergeek - 11-8-2013 at 05:16 PM

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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .

no, youre good! :lol:

I've been there. It's in the middle of Guadalajara's pink district, near Federalísimo and Juárez. I hope they're better at being gay than they are at making tacos, because... ¡guácatelos!

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 05:26 PM

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no, youre good! :lol:

Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.

tripledigitken - 11-8-2013 at 05:27 PM

...and I was about ready to praise his Photoshop skills....

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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .

no, youre good! :lol:

I've been there. It's in the middle of Guadalajara's pink district, near Federalísimo and Juárez. I hope they're better at being gay than they are at making tacos, because... ¡guácatelos!

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by tripledigitken]

motoged - 11-8-2013 at 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
.....Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.

While that is your preference, have you ever gobbled up a rolled one? :biggrin:

Bajahowodd - 11-8-2013 at 05:59 PM

I have personally believed since I was quite young that homosexuality was a genetic thing as opposed to an environmental thing.

While certainly not dispositive, there is certainly some food for thought.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/gay-straight-face-s...

DENNIS - 11-8-2013 at 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

While that is your preference, have you ever gobbled up a rolled one? :biggrin:

I've never done that with anything. I was raised in a Yacht Club. :yes:

mulegemichael - 11-8-2013 at 09:14 PM

D...and now you live in punta banda????...geezus...what a nosedive!!....you KNOW i luvs ya.

bajadogs - 11-8-2013 at 10:32 PM

20 years ago this discussion would have been ugly if not impossible. If I were smart enough I could write a Readers Digest style article about my gay boss/publisher who would occasionally take me to La Fonda for dinner to have a "man's night out" when he got tired of the gay stuff. I will share that story some day.

Dennis, I understand your opinion. Still love ya. :lol:

DanO - 11-8-2013 at 10:49 PM

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no, youre good! :lol:

Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.

To eat or to do something else with them? Leave the tacos out of it. They never did anything to offend you.

motoged - 11-9-2013 at 12:19 AM

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..... Leave the tacos out of it. They never did anything to offend you.

I had some tacos in Mazamitla last year that offended me .....and el bano for 34 hours :biggrin:

Skipjack Joe - 11-9-2013 at 09:07 AM

We have this taqueria here in half moon bay - "Taco Feliz". I wonder if the owner is trying to tell us something.

DENNIS - 11-9-2013 at 09:51 AM

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We have this taqueria here in half moon bay - "Taco Feliz". I wonder if the owner is trying to tell us something.

You mean this guy??

http://tinyurl.com/mrypr5p

durrelllrobert - 11-9-2013 at 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by motoged
Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

yep, it's OK to serve a taco and a hot dog on the same plate but never serve 2 hot dogs or 2 tacos that way or you might offend someone :lol:

motoged - 11-9-2013 at 10:16 AM

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While that is your preference, have you ever gobbled up a rolled one? :biggrin:

I've never done that with anything. I was raised in a Yacht Club. :yes:

Arrgggh, matey....have ya ever been blown hard out at sea? :biggrin:

durrelllrobert - 11-9-2013 at 10:24 AM

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I have tremendous respect for the courage it takes for LGBTQ people to come-out and march pridefully in the streets. I can imagine the courage it takes, because atheists are just below gays on the ladder of hatred in America and you sure don't see us jeopardizing our jobs or social status marching for our liberty to pursue happiness.

I would expect Mexicans would have a generally pretty progressive view about sexual preference. Wasn't there a hugely popular day time Mexican TV host who was a tranny? Look at the social status of a Mexican dwarf. Things are different SOB. :lol:

yep, you're absolutely correct:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R53S0VHQ1s‎

DavidE - 11-9-2013 at 04:09 PM

"A southern Mexican city, Juchitan de Zaragoza is historically noted to be tolerant and accepting of gay men...."

Juchi is a lot more different than you think. Women run the place. Women are the head of the family in Zapoteco country. Presidentes Municipales are women. In Tehunatepéc, Salina Cruz, Tepanetepéc, the society is matriarchal. The wimmmens go around in public brightly dressed with headdresses. This would not make for a representative sample for the country.

The guys get to plan fiestas, steal money out of the cookie jar to play la loteria and avoid bending over to pick up the soap in the shower.

DENNIS - 11-9-2013 at 05:16 PM

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"A southern Mexican city, Juchitan de Zaragoza is historically noted to be tolerant and accepting of gay men...."

Juchi is a lot more different than you think. Women run the place. Women are the head of the family in Zapoteco country. Presidentes Municipales are women. In Tehunatepéc, Salina Cruz, Tepanetepéc, the society is matriarchal. The wimmmens go around in public brightly dressed with headdresses. This would not make for a representative sample for the country.

The guys get to plan fiestas, steal money out of the cookie jar to play la loteria and avoid bending over to pick up the soap in the shower.

They need a badass chapter of "Daughter's Of Anarchy."

Bajamatic - 11-9-2013 at 05:40 PM

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Have you been to Tacos Punta Cabras in Santa Monica? Excellent fish tacos, tostadas and c-cktails.

NO! I will go tomorrow. Never even heard of it!

Osprey - 11-9-2013 at 05:49 PM

We have all been living in a Gynarchy. We just don't see it. My friend Earl calls it "The Hair Gun".

Lee - 11-9-2013 at 06:08 PM

''Some studies have shown that people who are homophobic are more likely to have repressed homosexual desires.[60]

The researchers noted that "these people are at war with themselves and are turning this internal conflict outward."[63]''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

This definition could apply to Dennis and at least one other Nomad. Maybe more.

Media is filled with politicians and religious bigots like this. Doesn't matter to me what these guys say -- I think they're attracted to gays and the lifestyle. And it's unfortunate that they torture themselves claiming otherwise.

Bajaboy - 11-9-2013 at 06:44 PM

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''Some studies have shown that people who are homophobic are more likely to have repressed homosexual desires.[60]

The researchers noted that "these people are at war with themselves and are turning this internal conflict outward."[63]''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

This definition could apply to Dennis and at least one other Nomad. Maybe more.

Media is filled with politicians and religious bigots like this. Doesn't matter to me what these guys say -- I think they're attracted to gays and the lifestyle. And it's unfortunate that they torture themselves claiming otherwise.

I think you might be on to something
:coolup:

[Edited on 11-10-2013 by Bajaboy]

DENNIS - 11-9-2013 at 07:08 PM

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This definition could apply to Dennis and at least one other Nomad. Maybe more.

Yeah....and my commiephobia indicates I'm a closet Marxist too.

OK, Lee....it's now on you to show us when and where I exhibited a phobia of any sort here.
I mean "phobia"...as in fear.
One instance......just one.
Where the *** does it say that disagreeing with anybody, or anything they say and do, is a reaction born of fear?

I'm disgusted with taggers. Does that mean I have tagger-phobia?
I have a hateful aversion to child molesters. Does that mean I am hindered by a pervert-phobia?

I've said, time and time again, I have no objection to gays living their private lives. They, nor their lifestyle, mean sht to me.
What I object to is a portion of the gay community forcing their presence on me and insisting I accept it. As far as I'm concerned, they can go the way of radical Muslims.
I have no room in my life for either one.

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[Edited on 11-10-2013 by DENNIS]

DENNIS - 11-9-2013 at 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
I think you might be on to something
:coolup:

Maybe you should get onto Lee. The two of you seem to have a lot in common.

Bajaboy - 11-9-2013 at 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
I think you might be on to something
:coolup:

Maybe you should get onto Lee. The two of you seem to have a lot in common.

There you go again Dennis....I'm flattered, though. :lol:

Ateo - 11-9-2013 at 10:38 PM

Die thread, die.

bajadogs - 11-9-2013 at 11:51 PM

Yep. The issue is dead which is a good thing.

"Put away your video camera!"

Ken Cooke - 11-10-2013 at 01:03 AM

All I know is that you can't video tape all of the performers without causing a bit of trouble! :lol:

[Edited on 11-10-2013 by Ken Cooke]

DENNIS - 11-10-2013 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
All I know is that you can't video tape all of the performers without causing a bit of trouble! :lol:

Jeeeezo........ugly men should never try to be beautiful women. It just doesn't translate.

Bajahowodd - 11-10-2013 at 04:29 PM

I'm actually slightly surprised, as well as gratified by the open mindedness of the Nomad community. It tells me something about my fellow Baja travelers. Something good.

Say What?

Ken Cooke - 11-11-2013 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
All I know is that you can't video tape all of the performers without causing a bit of trouble! :lol:

Jeeeezo........ugly men should never try to be beautiful women. It just doesn't translate.

JoeJustJoe - 11-11-2013 at 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Lee
This definition could apply to Dennis and at least one other Nomad. Maybe more.

I think Lee might have a point here, because Dennis spends way to much time on this thread telling us how he dislikes gays shoving their lifestyle down on him, and telling him to accept it.

I also understand that Dennis has never been married, and lives in Mexico, where it's very common for Mexican women to whisper behind the backs of unmarried men, and say certain things about unmarried men who have never had a wife, and are rarely seen with a girlfriend or any girl for that matter.

Shame on those Mexican women who spread rumors like that, and they seem to spread those rumors about the younger guys who never been married in their 30's or 40's especially if they are still living with Mamma.

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

I think Lee might have a point here, because

Oh Joe....you silly little delusional A-rab. Quite trying to start trouble.
How did you escape from the constraints of the OT? Someone should be out looking for you with a Thorazine injection.

DavidE - 11-11-2013 at 01:42 PM

This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet...

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet...

Look out for Joe.

JoeJustJoe - 11-11-2013 at 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

I think Lee might have a point here, because

Oh Joe....you silly little delusional A-rab. Quite trying to start trouble.
How did you escape from the constraints of the OT? Someone should be out looking for you with a Thorazine injection.

Dennis when OT type of threads, and posts are out here in the main area of "Baja Nomad" I will sometimes out to play here too. In fact in the OT, the homophobia is way down, I'm sorry I can't say the same for out here.

And really Dennis I'm just making a comment how Mexican women will sometimes talk about certain eligible bachelors in their circles of friends or family.

I'm sure you were even asked Dennis, why aren't you married? Of course as one gets older, those types of questions are asked less often.

[Edited on 11-11-2013 by JoeJustJoe]

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2013 at 03:01 PM

Dennis, would you mind quoting the response on the PBBB about Manny you gave when someone criticized him?

DavidE - 11-11-2013 at 03:38 PM

"I'm sure you were even asked Dennis, why aren't you married? Of course as one gets older, those types of questions are asked less often."

*******************************************************************

This is a question often asked by WOMEN. I have never been asked by a man, only by a woman. One old matriarch asked me "Have you a woman señor?" Brenda, chimed right in -- he'd better have had - I am his daughter". She turned beet red. The question is a pure woman's mind game.

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Dennis, would you mind quoting the response on the PBBB about Manny you gave when someone criticized him?

Yeah....I mind.

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by DavidE
This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet...

Look out for Joe.

OK....heel first. Do everybody a favor.

motoged - 11-11-2013 at 11:10 PM

No, David.....it is nOT different than what I think....as what you added is what I know ....and I think that their social structure is matrilineal as well.

I never suggested that it was typical or representative of Mexico, but is an example of tolerance.

Is your soap comment indicative of your tolerance?

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DavidE - 11-12-2013 at 11:34 AM

No. As a matter of fact it is a direct confrontation, a statement if you will aimed at GAY INTOLERANCE. As someone neutral, I get tired mighty quick of being abused by people on extreme sides of any issue about tolerance. The gay community radicals take an aggressive stance of "If you aren't totally for us, then you have to be totally against us". I tease both sides. Unfortunately many in the gay community cannot laugh at themselves. They become obnoxious and aggressive.

Go Away or Stay?

Gypsy Jan - 11-12-2013 at 12:38 PM

OK folks, as the OP (Original Poster) I am flattered that my small question got so many Nomads involved.

I have learned a great deal from the responses.

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
The gay community radicals take an aggressive stance of "If you aren't totally for us, then you have to be totally against us".

OK...whatever they say. Who am I to argue? But, first...we have to define "Us."

DavidE - 11-12-2013 at 01:43 PM

THEM Dennis. They march, they threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle. I likes wimmens. Hugs and kissies. If I drive a Chevrolet I don't need to bolt on a Ford emblem. Green Stop Signs. Get the picture?

Bajamatic - 11-12-2013 at 02:39 PM

http://m.now.msn.com/sex-makes-people-happiest-per-new-study

JoeJustJoe - 11-12-2013 at 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
THEM Dennis. They march, they threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle. I likes wimmens. Hugs and kissies. If I drive a Chevrolet I don't need to bolt on a Ford emblem. Green Stop Signs. Get the picture?

David can you give us an example how gays , threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle?

It sounds like you're at a gay pride parade? If so what are you doing there?

David did you support Prop 8( against same-sex marriage) or did you vote against prop 8? ( for same-sex marriage)

"Proposition 8 would have circumvented the 2008 ruling by adding the same provision as in Proposition 22 to the California Constitution, providing that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
______________________________________

I'm going out on a limb here and say you probably would have been for prop 8, and if so, you were voting against the rights of certain Americans of the same sex from marrying each other, and I wouldn't call that neural at all if you supported prop 8, and even if you don't live in California, you must have had an opinion on the proposal.

If you were against prop 8 that would be great.

But the way I and many other liberal and pro-gay rights viewed prop 8 as pure bigotry. You were either against gay marriage on religious grounds, which is religious bigotry, or you were against same-sex marriage for pure bigotry, as we can't see any other reason to deny people the right to marry anybody they want, as long as they're adults.

The chief justice that ruled on the case found no rational basis for denying same-sex couples the right to marry.

[Edited on 11-12-2013 by JoeJustJoe]

DavidE - 11-12-2013 at 03:12 PM

Limb?

Sonny you ain't even in the same forest...

Had I been ANYWHERE NEAR the EUA I would have looked at the proposition. But I wasn't, so I didn't. It's tough to register with zero communications.

But I remember small things, like suddenly seeing a sign next to my campsite several years ago. Actually it was a banner hung on a palapa "WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE QUEER!!!" A couple with X chromosomes. So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign held with duct tape...

I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH

Took it personally? Oh hell yes. I was a gay basher. The reddest of necks. A regular Rush Limbaugh Ditto Head. Newt Gingrich was a commie compared to me.

I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.

Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. How I narrowed my complaint to only the radical element. Like folks who string up a four foot by eight foot banner on a campsite next to mine.

Now you have me voting contrary to your preferences.

What's next amigo?

I can't wait.

The hell I can't...

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Get the picture?

Thank Gawd....no.

Did you press Joe into the loseta last night? Try again tonight if not.

Keep up the good fight, Big D. Purity of species propagation is worth it. :lol:

Skeet/Loreto - 11-12-2013 at 03:37 PM

After many years living in Baja and being involved with the mesicans People I found them to be very Tolorant.

There was a Gay Bar across the street from where I lived, I met and Talked with many of the the people visiting that Bar.

The Problem with some of the Gays at this time is their insane Idea to make everybody think the way they do. Impossible.

The Religious People have their right to beleive as they see Fit.
The Gay People have their right to beleive in they way they see Fit.

I do not think Gays getting married is a Natrual thing to do/ They should find another Word to fit instead of Marriage.

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
The Religious People have their right to beleive as they see Fit.
The Gay People have their right to beleive in they way they see Fit.

But, Skeeter......some gays are religious too. Not all, but some.

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I do not think Gays getting married is a Natrual thing to do/ They should find another Word to fit instead of Marriage.

I agree. Perhaps they should call it "Using David's Soap." They could say things like, "I'm not available....I'm using David's soap."

Ain't diversity b-tchen?

dasubergeek - 11-12-2013 at 04:03 PM

The issue with that is that the word 'marriage' brings with it all kinds of rights and responsibilities. "Oh, that's my husband in that hospital room."

Find a different word for civil marriage for everyone, no matter the gender, and you can keep the word 'marriage' for religion. I seriously don't care. Equality is the issue—not being able to file jointly, not having spousal privilege, not being able to inherit probate-free, not being allowed to sponsor someone for citizenship, and about eleven hundred other things spouses are allowed to do without people even batting an eyelash.

There are plenty of other legal issues besides marriage—you can be fired for being gay (or being thought of as gay) in 29 of the 50 states. Gay people cannot donate blood, in many states they cannot adopt children, and many states don't have anti-discrimination laws. The list goes on.

I don't want people to think the way I do. I want them to leave me the @$#% alone and allow me to exercise the same rights regardless of the gender of the person I want to spend the rest of my life with. I want friends of mine, who are lesbians and who just celebrated their 20th year together, to be able to have spousal rights without spending tens of thousands of dollars on legal contracts that will simply be ignored by those in charge when the chips are down anyway.

I'm pretty laissez-faire, Dennis, and my "activism" as far from "in your face" as it gets, but there comes a time when I get tired of having to live life as a second-class citizen because people are unable to hear the word 'bisexual' without thinking of buttsecks.

What you do in the bedroom has absolutely no bearing on my opinion of you, and I expect the same courtesy. That's all.

motoged - 11-12-2013 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
.... So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign held with duct tape...

I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH.....

I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.

Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. ......

What's next amigo?

I can't wait.

The hell I can't...

David ,
A rather adolescent response with your poster... :rolleyes:

And some pretty "In your face" comments, despite your stated position of such behaviour

You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.

Oh, well....that is what the question was....thanks for being open about how you see it.

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.

Nonsense. Show one point which I've made that wasn't comparative to a counter-point.
Show one point which I've made that was intolerant to acceptable, tolerant behavior.
Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American society. My society.

If they would keep their perversions in their bedrooms, like most hets do, they wouldn't be getting heat from people like me.

I'm tired of your defense of this behavior, ged. You are socially out of line.

Skeet/Loreto - 11-12-2013 at 05:38 PM

Geek:

My Aunt was Nurse of the year in Tarrant County Texas in 1957. She and her Partner rasied 14 Abused Children. 10 of those Children went on to get a Degree.

They accomlished this in the State of Texas .

I support them 100 % and any Gay that wants to be, just Try to be "good people" in doing So.

motoged - 11-12-2013 at 06:05 PM

Dennis, settle down....I have never said anything about your littany of supposed experiences (bj's in front of kids, etc). The topic was initially asking about acceptance in general of same-sex relationships, etc.....and I have responded with my position being one of acceptance and tolerance. You, sir, have dredged up a rack of specifics that offend you....which is interesting.

I am not "socially out of line" because I don't think like you do. I am not defending lewd conduct in public, regardless of who does it. I am of the impression that you and DavidE hold relatively similar positions on the matter ....hence the "fence" comment.

I have never once defended lewd behaviour, so get that straight. I am only demonstrating my tolerance for the concept of same-sex relationships....not specific behaviours.

So, I am less tolerant of your suggestion that I am socially out of line....so stuff that crap.

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by motoged

You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.

Bajaboy - 11-12-2013 at 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by motoged

You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.

But at the same time I don't hear you complaining about events such as Mardi Gras where lewd acts also occur in public. So are you against the PDA or just gay men...I haven't heard you object to women kissing or groping in public.

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
But at the same time I don't hear you complaining about events such as Mardi Gras where lewd acts also occur in public.

Which Mardi Gras.....New Orleans???????
Never been there.

Mazatlan????
Been to that one a few times, but don't remember any ludity. [is that a word? Ludity? It is now]

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So are you against the PDA or just gay men...I haven't heard you object to women kissing or groping in public.

You haven't heard me object to anybody doing anything specifically....men...women.... singles.....mixtures.......nobody.
Show us where I'm wrong.

Ohhhh.....I'm sorry.....you can't.

Your very lame argument is really running low on fuel.

Light humor !!

captkw - 11-12-2013 at 08:38 PM

MY Kid brother was a prankster and jokester....he strut into a bar, sit down with a big a$$ grin and look at the guy next to him..get their attention..and after a few mins...Would loudly say.." I'M so Happy ".......and the guy other waits for the reason/reply.........................He would look um in the and say " I'm bi-sexual"....and the other guy is going ,HuH..he would time just right with his final..."Yep, and tonight's the night"...........at 6'4" always had a laugh with that!!!

motoged - 11-12-2013 at 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
....You haven't heard me object to anybody doing anything specifically....men...women.... singles.....mixtures.......nobody.
Show us where I'm wrong.

Ohhhh.....I'm sorry.....you can't.....(

Oh yes I can....a few post up the page, pal.... your rhetorical questions state your position:

"Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American society. My society."

Well...YOUR position is not running out of fuel, as it seems you run on methane :biggrin:

And it's not YOUR society....you might realize sometime that there is more to society than middle america....and you are sharing it....with all sorts of folks.

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

Oh yes I can....a few post up the page, pal.... your rhetorical questions state your position:

Typical leftist reasoning.......trying to make fact from fiction when all else fails:

rhetorical question

a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?”

.

[Edited on 11-13-2013 by DENNIS]

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

And it's not YOUR society....

Yes...it is.

Ken Cooke - 11-12-2013 at 09:52 PM

motoged - 11-12-2013 at 09:59 PM

Dennis,
Your logic isn't !

I pointed out something, and you replied with exactly my point, but you somehow think you have offered a rebuttal.

It is difficult to be engaged in a battle of wits with someone who is not armed... light: :lol:

I have not created fact from fiction....I simply quoted you, caught you in your own contradiction ....

"a question asked solely .... to make an assertion"

You have made your assertions for us to see....stand by them if you will, but have the integrity to not be a liar.

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by motoged

Oh yes I can....a few post up the page, pal.... your rhetorical questions state your position:

Typical leftist reasoning.......trying to make fact from fiction when all else fails:

rhetorical question

and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?”

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[Edited on 11-13-2013 by DENNIS]

elgatoloco - 11-12-2013 at 10:29 PM

Live and let live..............

redhilltown - 11-13-2013 at 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Limb?

Sonny you ain't even in the same forest...

Had I been ANYWHERE NEAR the EUA I would have looked at the proposition. But I wasn't, so I didn't. It's tough to register with zero communications.

But I remember small things, like suddenly seeing a sign next to my campsite several years ago. Actually it was a banner hung on a palapa "WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE QUEER!!!" A couple with X chromosomes. So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign held with duct tape...

I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH

Took it personally? Oh hell yes. I was a gay basher. The reddest of necks. A regular Rush Limbaugh Ditto Head. Newt Gingrich was a commie compared to me.

I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.

Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. How I narrowed my complaint to only the radical element. Like folks who string up a four foot by eight foot banner on a campsite next to mine.

Now you have me voting contrary to your preferences.

What's next amigo?

I can't wait.

The hell I can't...

Ya know...this is one of this most idiotic, juvenile, and insulting posts I've ever seen on here...and that is saying something.

Skipjack Joe - 11-13-2013 at 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy

But at the same time I don't hear you complaining about events such as Mardi Gras where lewd acts also occur in public. So are you against the PDA or just gay men...I haven't heard you object to women kissing or groping in public.

I have been in agreement with David and Dennis on this matter (I really don't like our yearly gay parade) until I read this.

You make a good point, Bajaboy. Brazil's 'Carnival' is a lot like our gay parade yet I don't find it offensive at all. Will have to give this more thought.

monoloco - 11-13-2013 at 07:55 AM

I have found Mexicans to be very tolerant when it comes to homosexuality. In this area there are many openly gay Mexicans and I've never heard a local mutter a discouraging thing about them or witnessed any form of harassment or discrimination, they seem to be very well accepted in the community.

Lee - 11-13-2013 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
I have found Mexicans to be very tolerant when it comes to homosexuality. In this area there are many openly gay Mexicans and I've never heard a local mutter a discouraging thing about them or witnessed any form of harassment or discrimination, they seem to be very well accepted in the community.

I also think Mexicans are tolerant but don't think the US is intolerant -- Hawaii just passed the gay marriage thing. Don't think Mexico has hate crimes directed at gays -- maybe it doesn't make the media. Maybe MX men are more secure in their masculinity than some gringoes. Insecurity is a word that comes to mind reading comments by nomads defending indefensible behavior.

If I were camping and saw a sign that read WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE QUEER, I'd laugh -- then offer my brothers/sisters a beer. There are generations of people who grew up repressed -- straights and gays alike -- who are trying to feel positive (pride) vs. shame.

DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Lee
Insecurity is a word that comes to mind reading comments by nomads defending indefensible behavior.

References, please. Who did that...when and where? Having and voicing an opinion isn't exactly "indefensible behavior." It's the "American Way."

Are you joining Sr. Head in telling the world what we're allowed to think and say?
Very democratic of you. Your company commander would be so proud.

Jeeezo...talk about freakin' intolerance................

Lee - 11-13-2013 at 10:40 AM

Seriously, Dennis, you are willing to defend and debate behavior without (my opinion) seeming lack of fore thought. Or education. Reactionary and serious psychological issues steeped in moral judgment comes across as, in this case, disturbing.

You are who you are, carry the burden you do about this stuff, and entitled to your opinion. Even if it comes across as convoluted.

If Ru Paul disturbs you, then so be it. If you think radical gays are ''forcing'' themselves on you, that's your problem. And it really does come across as your problem.

Have a good day. That is all.

DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Lee

If Ru Paul disturbs you, then so be it. If you think radical gays are ''forcing'' themselves on you, that's your problem. And it really does come across as your problem.

This conversation could just as easily been about Michael Vick and dog fighting.
I won't openly accept that behavior either. It doesn't directly affect me, but it's my personal choice to reject it, and in the eyes of Michael Vick fans, would deem me demented.

Ohhh effing well.........

monoloco - 11-13-2013 at 11:50 AM

Dennis, I find myself wondering where you have been hanging out to have witnessed all this men in crotchless cowboy chaps giving bj's on the street? Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, although I like to think I've got around a bit, but I have never witnessed this kind of flagrant behavior, which sounds to me like it would be illegal in most places regardless of sex or sexual orientation. I did enter a gay bar in Laguna unknowingly once, but it was so subtle that I didn't figure it out for about an hour. Did you unwittingly book a SF vacation to the Castro District? :lol:

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