Close call today on Highway 1 with bicyclists

Again, why does a 35 ft RV have more right to the road than a bicycle? I've had more close calls with the huge RVs and travel trailers than any cyclists

Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.

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Originally posted by Bajaboy Quote: Originally posted by David K Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ??? When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and busses, which you forgot to include). Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.

Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the government would build them a bike path.

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Originally posted by Bajaboy Quote: Originally posted by David K Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ??? When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and busses, which you forgot to include). Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.

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Originally posted by LancairDriver Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy Quote: Originally posted by David K Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ??? When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and busses, which you forgot to include). Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1. Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the government would build them a bike path.

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Originally posted by mtgoat666 Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy Quote: Originally posted by David K Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ??? When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and busses, which you forgot to include). Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1. I Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the government would build them a bike path. In your world the rich or big spenders have superior rights. Sad world you live in.

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Originally posted by Bajaboy Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.

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Originally posted by Bajaboy Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.

The highway was built to benefit the people of the peninsula of Baja California... If motorhomes and long distance bicycles were the only two groups you want to mention (but in reality all other automobiles, trucks, and busses should be included), which one 'contributes' more to the wealth of the peninsula, and benefits the most people? This is a no brainer for most...

Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the peninsula.... instead of providing passage to all by requesting the bikes to be transported over the dangerous middle section on a truck or bus... thus providing some income to truck or bus operators.

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Originally posted by David K Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1. This is a no brainer for most... Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the peninsula....

WTF? ROTFLMAO.

to old to drive

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Originally posted by David K Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1. The highway was built to benefit the people of the peninsula of Baja California... If motorhomes and long distance bicycles were the only two groups you want to mention (but in reality all other automobiles, trucks, and busses should be included), which one 'contributes' more to the wealth of the peninsula, and benefits the most people? This is a no brainer for most... Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the peninsula.... instead of providing passage to all by requesting the bikes to be transported over the dangerous middle section on a truck or bus... thus providing some income to truck or bus operators.

Then There's Always The School Of Hard Knocks

Physics makes some parts of Hwy. 1 unsafe for bikes, that's all.

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Originally posted by joerover education is the answer all can use the road safely when drivers are educated pass a bicycle the same way you pass a car 4 wheels over the center line save a life HIT THE BREAKS Quote: Originally posted by David K Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1. The highway was built to benefit the people of the peninsula of Baja California... If motorhomes and long distance bicycles were the only two groups you want to mention (but in reality all other automobiles, trucks, and busses should be included), which one 'contributes' more to the wealth of the peninsula, and benefits the most people? This is a no brainer for most... Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the peninsula.... instead of providing passage to all by requesting the bikes to be transported over the dangerous middle section on a truck or bus... thus providing some income to truck or bus operators.

If you ever drove south of San Quintin Km. 0 (before El Rosario), then you would know what is the danger. All of us have no problem passing bikes or waiting to pass them.

The problem is we are driving at a safe speed in a mountain/ hilly section, and round a curve to find bikes in our lane and a bus coming towards us in the other.

Sure we will slam on the brakes, but in a split second move do we choose to die from a head on if there isn't enough distance from the bikes to stop by swerving into the path of a semi or bus or any car? Bikes loose, and so do we for hurting others in a totally preventable situation...

Wait for the original 19' wide 1973 Hwy. 1 to get the paved, bike lane wide shoulder. They have been working on it for a few years now, including a few miles out of El Rosario.

No room for bikes:

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Originally posted by David K No room for bikes:

Could it be because the vehicles hit head-on and the bike rides on down the road? A wrecked bike is something you can pick up and throw into a truck, so its wreckage won't be there long.

Let's hope the tiny % of touring Hwy. 1 bikes never make contact with anything powered by gasoline or diesel oil!

Biker's

Aside from the Stupid Political slant that D.K. has to slip into almost every post the idea of Portage for Bicycles is the most intelligent thing That he has came up with. Maybe a new business opportunity for some enterprising individual.

Unless of course you like clean drinking water

rules and laws are what keeps public peace and provides for mostly stable economic system.

you should show some personal responsibility: slow down and share the road! it's the responsible thing to do

only people on this thread proposing new rules (less freedom) are the antibike nuts dreaming of banning bikes

peace, love and fish tacos (and an end to the war on bikes)
dont worry, be happy
slow down and share the road and smile!


[Edited on 1-20-2014 by BajaNomad]

[Edited on 1-20-2014 by BajaNomad]

Easy solution to widening the road. On even days, only northbound traffic allowed. Southbound goes on alternate days.

public bicycles in DF

So you're suggesting that businesses will self regulate....yes, I'm sure all of those factories that were dumping sludge into the rivers were just about to quit doing so just before the government told them not to......

Come on now David....maybe you should study a bit of history

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Originally posted by Bajaboy So you're suggesting that businesses will self regulate....

thought there was a forum for some of this

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Originally posted by mtgoat666 Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy So you're suggesting that businesses will self regulate.... In utopian society, people would self-regulate: eat less, exercise more, slow down, and share the road! Of course, we all know individuals lack impulse control and moral compass, and a great many of us are selfish immoral opportunists. That's why we need government to control excesses of greed, gluttony, pollution, wrath, murder, violence, etc. Peace, love and fish tacos (and social order)!

And you would be absolutely correct, except that government is also made up people, who "lack impulse control and moral compass, and a great many of us are selfish immoral opportunists"
When we assume that people in government are "better" than any of the rest of us, we are heading toward the cliff.
My humble opinion is that any of us, when presented with proper motivation, are capable of some pretty despicable actions.
It's bad enough when these despicable actions are played out in businesses and churches, but when they're played out within an niche that has access to our tax system, our judicial system, and our well armed military that things get really, really scary.
I share your distrust of our species, I just don't think that the act of getting elected makes you all better.
I also, really, really like fish tacos!!

Now, back to bicycles and motor homes, and how they can occupy the same volume of space simultaneously.

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save a life HIT THE BRAKES

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Originally posted by David K Quote: Originally posted by Islandbuilder Now, back to bicycles and motor homes, and how they can occupy the same volume of space simultaneously. Bravo... "with eyes wide open we can see the true enemy of the people, it is us"

That is fine with me if any of us can hit the breaks before we hit the bike, that we can't see on a mountain road, as we go around blind corners, at a safe speed for automobiles. Some of you guys think we want to hurt people or drive dangerously?

The Time has Come ?

click here to see who you are killing

vote, should this bike tourist live to eat turtle soup, or die under your wheels

are you done?
I vote for this thread dies!

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Thanks I needed that ...

Here I am yesterday, giving these bicyclists plenty of room. My civic duty of the day. :LOL:

SURE BENT RIM

A broken down car is there and out of any ones control, bad luck; A cow is there trying to survive the Baja weather and lack of rain (grass grows on the sides of the road better because of the water that runs off when it rains is more concentrated there) and is to dumb to know they can die on that road. A bicyclist, if they are luckier than a broken down car and smarter than a cow, have the ability to make a choice as to be there or not.

thats #19 joe, are we getting close?

pleeese did the boat sink?

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Originally posted by willardguy Quote: Originally posted by Ateo Close to this thread dying, I hope. pleeese did the boat sink?

Perfectly said. Depressing but true!!! Haha.

Looonng thread