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UPDATED INFO: Baja Big Loop Rally - November 23, 2016

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willyAirstream - 10-28-2016 at 10:46 AM

She could be the co piloto in one of the cars?

motoged - 10-28-2016 at 11:10 AM

Somebody has to be there to make sure the guys behave.....like....no "locker room talk" :biggrin:

AKgringo - 10-28-2016 at 11:21 AM

My 'leave the wife' comment was a cheap attempt at humor! If there is someone who needs to ride shotgun in my Kia, I can boot the dog to the back seat. If the top is off, she prefers it there anyway!

I will be driving a Kia Sportage two door (like a Tracker) and pulling an off road utility trailer. I will have room for gas and gear.

My chances of making the run are at about 90% at this point.

dtbushpilot - 10-28-2016 at 11:56 AM

I'm reasonably sure I will be there...

BigBearRider - 10-28-2016 at 01:20 PM

All good points. ;)

My wife is of childbearing years, concerned about Zika, and not a huge fan of Baja. Because of Zika, she doesn't want me to go. We also have a son who is three and a half, and probably wouldn't enjoy the trip...

Not totally out of the question. We'll see.

o3dave - 10-28-2016 at 02:37 PM

I will very likely be there. Any chance of a great, safe parking/staging area for those of us bringing trailers and such?

willyAirstream - 10-28-2016 at 02:53 PM

Hotel Mulege and Hacienda Hotel have large secure courtyard/parking.

motoged - 10-28-2016 at 03:18 PM

Thanks Richard....

And I think that Hotel Mulege has a larger lot than the Hacienda.

Folks being away from their motel for a few days might want to arrange secure parking for the period of time away from Mulege.

And thanks for those indicating their potential attendance...several trucks and maybe a half dozen motos....and a buggy or two probably.

P.S. At this time we do not have a centralized "staging area"....we may figure that out by Nov 20th, but don't count on it. I suggest attendees make their own arrangements....we will, however, have a location determined for the Nov 23rd morning start....the Pemex south of town might be a good spot as it is large, has gas, and a tienda :light:

[Edited on 10-28-2016 by motoged]

[b]Riders meeting rescheduled for 5:00 pm Nov 22nd[/b]

motoged - 10-31-2016 at 10:34 PM

Getting packed and excited to be in Baja by Nov 7th....a few days in Bahia Asuncion and on to Mulege Nov 14th.

The folks who want to do the Loop Rally have indicated their interest and we have some bikes, some four-wheeled vehicles and a fantastic amount of very scenic Baja ahead of us. Some folks have been to many of our destinations, but Comondu will be a treat for those who experience it the first time.

Riders meeting at Scotty's 5:00 pm Nov 22nd


David K - 11-1-2016 at 09:30 AM

Have a really great time Ged, and just because big DT David is going doesn't mean you get to break any more bones, okay?

motoged - 11-1-2016 at 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Have a really great time Ged, and just because big DT David is going doesn't mean you get to break any more bones, okay?


David,
Thanks for the thought....I will certainly be careful in the silt and won't accept too many "pin 'er" challenges. DT tends to be a gentleman most of the time...and I will remind someone to get pics of the ruins in La Purisma...and Comondu...and hopefully San Javier.


David K - 11-1-2016 at 01:57 PM

Sounds great!
The Purísima ruins (or lack of) is the biggest question. They should be on the west side of the crypts, per the older photos... and maybe weeds or something else is hiding them. Have a great time!!

motoged - 11-1-2016 at 05:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Sounds great!
The Purísima ruins (or lack of) is the biggest question. They should be on the west side of the crypts, per the older photos... and maybe weeds or something else is hiding them. Have a great time!!


Probably just past the chupacabra den.... :coolup:

motoged - 11-8-2016 at 11:10 PM

Just pulled ito Bahia Asuncion for a few days before heading to Mulege....hope to be there Nov 14th and will post more about the Loop Rally as the time gets near....

motoged - 11-15-2016 at 06:55 PM

Well, after a week in Bahia Asuncion getting the road stupor out of my system after 5 days driving south, and some good company and relaxing times, I arrived in Mulege yesterday ( Nov 14th), I am situated at La Hacienda for two weeks.

I got the bike off the truck and went over the eyeball inspection only to see a weeping shock seal....and after an hours ride confirmed the observation....not a major issue at this time but already Googling for parts/fix info.

So, if any folks planning on doing this several day loop (details to be confirmed when folks gather Wednesday , Nov 22 at El Candil (Scotty's) at 6:00 pm....hope to see you then...earlier if you are around and you can track me down at La Hacienda....

It looks like a small and manageable group has indicated their participation interest....Nov 22nd will let us know what's what.


More as the week progresses and I get more local intel.....:coolup:

AKgringo - 11-15-2016 at 07:19 PM

Yesterday was my planned departure date from northern CA, but catching the first cold I have had in years took the excitement out of leaving on time. I am thinking I am about four days out from Mulege.

I will be coming down CA 395 or NV 95, and would be happy to bring your needed parts if you wind up locating them some where between here and there. My schedule and route is flexible, but I would prefer not to drive through the megalopolis of southern CA!

If you could ask around about a local upholstery shop that could do some quick and dirty repairs on my Kia seats, It would save me a step. Nothing fancy, just functional for a few more trips before I retire the Sportage!

motoged - 11-15-2016 at 08:31 PM

AK,
Thanks for the pickup offer...I am e-mailing my wrench to see if it is likely just a seal problem...keep an eye on this thread or your U2U as we only have two days....

do you cross at Mexicali or Tecate?

The humorous side of the issue....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSi-yCV-gQ4

[Edited on 11-16-2016 by motoged]

willyAirstream - 11-15-2016 at 08:48 PM

AK gringo, there is a lady in town who does moto seats. She did mine and several of my friends. She does all types of upholstery. She did my new seat cover the same day, labor and material was less than a Big Mac.

AKgringo - 11-15-2016 at 09:06 PM

Mexicali is where I will probably cross if I come down 395, but if it is snowing there, I might drive through Las Vegas and Algodones is an option as well.

If there is a reason to cross at Tecate, I like that route as well, but I am traveling down Mx 5. For me the journey is the destination.

motoged - 11-17-2016 at 06:07 PM

Riders meeting at Scotty's 5:00 pm Nov 22nd

Went for a 30 km ride west today and figured out the turns to take....all manageable double track...soft sand sections, and rougher stuff, .... and a ranchero pickup was doing okay...

Kurt G arrived at the Hacienda and AKGringo is on his way nursing a pneumonia (Alaskan superbug?)...





Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Getting packed and excited to be in Baja by Nov 7th....a few days in Bahia Asuncion and on to Mulege Nov 14th.

The folks who want to do the Loop Rally have indicated their interest and we have some bikes, some four-wheeled vehicles and a fantastic amount of very scenic Baja ahead of us. Some folks have been to many of our destinations, but Comondu will be a treat for those who experience it the first time.

Riders meeting at Scotty's 5:00 pm Nov 22nd



[Edited on 11-18-2016 by motoged]

woody with a view - 11-17-2016 at 07:23 PM

Ged, for the love of everything holy, go slow on the silt!:light:

I didn't die (yet)

AKgringo - 11-18-2016 at 12:29 PM

It is California crud, not Alaskan, and so far not pneumonia! It just got me thinking what would happen if it got worse.

I may not make the meeting, but I will try.


Udo - 11-18-2016 at 01:22 PM

What would happen if you were in Baja Sur?


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
It is California crud, not Alaskan, and so far not pneumonia! It just got me thinking what would happen if it got worse.

I may not make the meeting, but I will try.


motoged - 11-18-2016 at 01:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
What would happen if you were in Baja Sur?


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
It is California crud, not Alaskan, and so far not pneumonia! It just got me thinking what would happen if it got worse.

I may not make the meeting, but I will try.



Having a Margarita with me looking at maps or doing the usual Baja talk...:lol:

AKgringo - 11-18-2016 at 08:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
What would happen if you were in Baja Sur?


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
It is California crud, not Alaskan, and so far not pneumonia! It just got me thinking what would happen if it got worse.

I may not make the meeting, but I will try.



I talked it over with my dog, and she thinks a warm, dessert environment would be good for me. I am making the trip, but there are lots of miles to cover, and short days, so I will be just driving eating and sleeping for the next three days.

If I don't make it in time for the meeting, you will have to drink the Margarita for me!

Having a Margarita with me looking at maps or doing the usual Baja talk...:lol:

motoged - 11-19-2016 at 12:16 PM

Nov 19th update

As I take a closer look at the calendar, I need to correct the dates:

Riders meeting at EL Candil (Scotty's) is at 5:00 on Wednesday,
Nov. 23rd


Thursday, Nov 24th....ride starts 9:00 ish at Pemex south of town


A few folks who earlier expressed interest have made other plans, but it looks like we still have several intending to attend....

Some are still on the road ...





mcnut - 11-19-2016 at 01:49 PM

Would have liked to join the group but will have to be satisfied with reading the trip report, maybe next time.

Especially interested in the La Purisima to Comondu and the Guajademi stretches if you end up going that way. Also curious about the road conditions on the route north out of SJ Comondu via Picacho.

You guys have a great trip!

Bruce

motoged - 11-19-2016 at 08:17 PM

I have been enjoying the company of Nomad Kurt G here at the Hacienda the past few days....a friend of his was just on the San Javier-Comondu road in a jeep and discouraged Kurt taking his 4X4 Ranger due to clearance issues...Richard (W-airsream) had said that "they pushed a blade through there for a race 4-6 weeks ago"...

We will see....I hope.

KurtG - 11-20-2016 at 06:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
I have been enjoying the company of Nomad Kurt G here at the Hacienda the past few days....a friend of his was just on the San Javier-Comondu road in a jeep and discouraged Kurt taking his 4X4 Ranger due to clearance issues...Richard (W-airsream) had said that "they pushed a blade through there for a race 4-6 weeks ago"...

We will see....I hope.


I'm driving an Explorer and although it has 16" tires clearance is not as good as many other 4x4's so I have to use a lot of caution. We use it in some rough areas but always so far know when to turn around. My common sense seems to have evolved with age.

I didn't plan on rain!

AKgringo - 11-21-2016 at 01:34 PM

I reached the pass from Gonzaga over to Chapala, and had to use my wipers! Rather that turn back to go get my rain gear, I took a side trip to B.O.L.A to get some.

Anybody have directions to the Walmart? No...how about a Starbucks, the Instant coffee I was served today didn't work!

I plan to make the meeting!

[Edited on 11-21-2016 by AKgringo]

motoged - 11-21-2016 at 05:37 PM

No rain here but mostly overcast and muggy.....went for a ride and it was nice not to have the sun turned up to 11.

motoged - 11-21-2016 at 10:28 PM

Wednesday rider meeting at El Candil (Scotty's) will be held in the back courtyard at 5;00 pm and will likely entail food, beverages, and lotsa talk.

The weather forecast is for sunny days with a bit of cloud cover....

We will decide where we are going...but the plan is for Mulege to San Juanico first day, Comondu/La Purisima second day, and back to Mulege Third day from La Purisima..."Guajdeme" route apparently is impassable due to rock slides that a loca Melgeno biker says is too hard for bikes unless you wantto ride over basketballs and bigger here and there.

It's a relaxed adventure with the most challenging stuff likely from Mulege to San Juanico....varying double-track ....

See ya then....

chuckie - 11-22-2016 at 02:16 AM

Say Hello to Zulema for me....NO TOUCHING!

shari - 11-22-2016 at 08:00 AM

Have a great ride gentlemen...and I use that term rather loosely!:o

BigBearRider - 11-22-2016 at 01:46 PM

Alas, my wife won't let me go at this time. It's a bit unfortunate, because I've been looking forward to this route and I have the bike ready to go at our house. Next time. Have fun!

o3dave - 11-22-2016 at 02:46 PM

Sorry to hear that BBR. I will be coming up from Los Barriles if any one is on the fence. I can haul 2 more bikes in my trailer. U2U me and I will be happy to talk dirt bike all the way or not!

motoged - 11-23-2016 at 08:48 PM

Well, we have three intrepid adventurers...AKgringo (Gary) with his dog, Bailey and is in a Kia Sportage, Dave 03 (David) on a Husqvarna 500, and your's truly on a KTM 450.

We all seem to have a general understanding of Day One Mulege to San Juanico, Day Two San Juanico to Los Comondu and then La Purisma, and Day Three La Purisma east to Hwy 1 just south of Bahia Concepcion.

The plan is ride for fun to each day's destination, find rooms, and talk about the day over the usual refreshments.

Hopefully you won't hear from us until Sunday....:coolup:

David K - 11-23-2016 at 08:51 PM

Enjoy the ride back in time!

motoged - 11-27-2016 at 11:35 AM

We nailed it !!!

Three days of some very challenging long stretches of boulder arroyos, over a dozen wet crossings up to three feet deep, lots of soft sand, washouts that could wreck a trip, and everything in between provided three solid days of adventure.

AKGringo (Gary) came down from Grass Valley, Ca. with his beautiful, well-mannered, rambunctious pit bull/boxer (Bailey) in their Kia Sportage, and 03David came up from Los Barriles with his bike (500 Husqvarna) were excellent travel mates each very capable in their abilities and spirit.


Day One was west out of Mulege....the first half of that day presented some challenges and great canyon/mountain scenery...the second half was endless miles of rocky riverbed track usually visible with lots of wet crossings with intermittent soft sand and occasional short stretches of hardpack road...and managed to find accomodation in San Juanico, but Gary camped on the beach as all three places with rooms would not allow dogs....

Day Two was down to Comondu...easy paved day hat was short in duration....the new hotel Hacienda Don Mario would/could not offer us rooms ("but if you wait until after 6:00 pm we might give you a room if the reservations don't arrive")...as it was 2:30, we could take the risk that rooms were available in La Purisma an hour or so away....and as the conversation continued, the guy said he could find rooms in two other casas but couldn't promise that....a half-hour wait resulted in confirming that offer which we accepted after I pressed for a guarantee handshake.....and what we got was an annex of sorts to the church that had three separate rooms with defunct bathroom and kitchen....and reeked horribly of a kerosene type smelling liquid they mopped the floors with (insecticide?)...handmade cots of palm wood and dried stretched leather strips....we ate at the Don Mario....very simple but good chicken soup, beans, tortillas for supper and huevos revuelltos con machaca for breakfast....

Day Three was north to San Isidro/La Purisma for a lookabout and I snapped a few pics of the mission site in LP for DK (will post later) and then out to highway #1 and up to Mulege. Road from San Isidro to highway junction had a lot of washout ravines in road and rocks, ledges and abrupt dips....shorter than the duration of Day One conditions, but its own harder surface irregularities.

Summary: Day One was the difficult day compared to the other two; I have respect for Gary taking his Kia through there at the pace that Dave and I on bikes were impressed with...Bailey was the silent hero of the trip and a cool dog (looked fierce but was muy amable) ...the group dynamic couldn't have been better, no accidents or breakdowns, the mix of two bikes and a 4-wheel vehicle was good as Gary carried some gas which we needed as well as a day pack for Dave and I with change of clothes....made the bikes lighter.

We saw some fat tire cyclists near the last part of day one heading towards Mulege and who were just getting into the difficult stuff...glad I wasn't doing that....maybe part of the cycle route mentioned in another thread....

So, I consider the rally a raving success....more vehicles would have increase the risk of issues arising and accommodation problems, so the camping readiness is a strong suggestion for "next time".

I want to thank Gary, Dave and Bailey for showing up and doing the loop....great guys to travel with....:saint::saint::saint:

BigBearRider - 11-27-2016 at 12:21 PM

Awesome! I wish I had been there. Next time. Maybe after mid-December.

David K - 11-27-2016 at 12:44 PM

Great!

TMW - 11-27-2016 at 02:11 PM

Excellent, glad everyone had a good time.

Sweetwater - 11-27-2016 at 04:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
We nailed it !!!

Three days of some very challenging long stretches of boulder arroyos, over a dozen wet crossings up to three feet deep, lots of soft sand, washouts that could wreck a trip, and everything in between provided three solid days of adventure.

AKGringo (Gary) came down from Grass Valley, Ca. with his beautiful, well-mannered, rambunctious pit bull/boxer (Bailey) in their Kia Sportage, and 03David came up from Los Barriles with his bike (500 Husqvarna) were excellent travel mates each very capable in their abilities and spirit.


Day One was west out of Mulege....the first half of that day presented some challenges and great canyon/mountain scenery...the second half was endless miles of rocky riverbed track usually visible with lots of wet crossings with intermittent soft sand and occasional short stretches of hardpack road...and managed to find accomodation in San Juanico, but Gary camped on the beach as all three places with rooms would not allow dogs....

Day Two was down to Comondu...easy paved day hat was short in duration....the new hotel Hacienda Don Mario would/could not offer us rooms ("but if you wait until after 6:00 pm we might give you a room if the reservations don't arrive")...as it was 2:30, we could take the risk that rooms were available in La Purisma an hour or so away....and as the conversation continued, the guy said he could find rooms in two other casas but couldn't promise that....a half-hour wait resulted in confirming that offer which we accepted after I pressed for a guarantee handshake.....and what we got was an annex of sorts to the church that had three separate rooms with defunct bathroom and kitchen....and reeked horribly of a kerosene type smelling liquid they mopped the floors with (insecticide?)...handmade cots of palm wood and dried stretched leather strips....we ate at the Don Mario....very simple but good chicken soup, beans, tortillas for supper and huevos revuelltos con machaca for breakfast....

Day Three was north to San Isidro/La Purisma for a lookabout and I snapped a few pics of the mission site in LP for DK (will post later) and then out to highway #1 and up to Mulege. Road from San Isidro to highway junction had a lot of washout ravines in road and rocks, ledges and abrupt dips....shorter than the duration of Day One conditions, but its own harder surface irregularities.

Summary: Day One was the difficult day compared to the other two; I have respect for Gary taking his Kia through there at the pace that Dave and I on bikes were impressed with...Bailey was the silent hero of the trip and a cool dog (looked fierce but was muy amable) ...the group dynamic couldn't have been better, no accidents or breakdowns, the mix of two bikes and a 4-wheel vehicle was good as Gary carried some gas which we needed as well as a day pack for Dave and I with change of clothes....made the bikes lighter.

We saw some fat tire cyclists near the last part of day one heading towards Mulege and who were just getting into the difficult stuff...glad I wasn't doing that....maybe part of the cycle route mentioned in another thread....

So, I consider the rally a raving success....more vehicles would have increase the risk of issues arising and accommodation problems, so the camping readiness is a strong suggestion for "next time".

I want to thank Gary, Dave and Bailey for showing up and doing the loop....great guys to travel with....:saint::saint::saint:




Nice description but as always, useless without pics (and fancy maps of your route).

AKgringo - 11-27-2016 at 05:01 PM

Ged forgot to mention the shower in the annex that we stayed in. There was a dirt path to an outbuilding in the court yard, which had a floor drain and a pipe in the wall that could have held a shower head, but didn't. Our shower was a five gallon bucket filled at the faucet in the garden, and a plastic pitcher used as a ladle. Refreshing! The same five gallon bucket was also the plumbing for the toilet, if we had been brave enough to use it!

At least we had an enclosed courtyard/garden to secure our vehicles, and for my dog to romp in!

I will post more later in small entry's, because I am having connection problems with my P.O.S. laptop. (and sorry, no photos)

chuckie - 11-27-2016 at 05:13 PM

Dissapointed that only 3 dudes showed up..After all the hoopla, should have been more..

David K - 11-27-2016 at 05:28 PM

Being close to the Baja 1000 and to Thanksgiving may have had a lot to do with it?

Usually, TW, John M, The squarecircle, and sometimes me, are good for these off road adventures!

Looking forward to photos.
Ged, feel free to email all you took, of the La Purísima site, if there are some that may not look interesting to others, in your opinion. My hotmail account or my website email: info @ vivabaja.com
Thanks agian!!!

[Edited on 11-28-2016 by David K]

o3dave - 11-27-2016 at 07:03 PM

our guide

A steep section of road nicely concreted for traction

The arroyo gods deeming this steed as worthy




o3dave - 11-27-2016 at 07:07 PM

Scorpion bay at Happy hour

2 men enter 1 man leave. My room on day 1


o3dave - 11-27-2016 at 07:12 PM

Commandu self serve laundry

So this is what held the roof up. It did the job but I could have slept better.

Commandu Prison

Got to see some of Baja that was all new to me. Already thinking about the next one.

o3dave - 11-27-2016 at 07:27 PM

Valet parking in San Juanico even. We stayed at Cowabunga bar and grill plus bungalows (pictured above).
Mike and cholie were very gracious hosts as we rolled in during their Thanksgiving dinner.

I could not get the other guys to swim after this.

And in Commandu, there are no keys or keycards at the hotel. This was how Gary chose to secure our door. Worked nicely


[Edited on 11-28-2016 by o3dave]

motoged - 11-27-2016 at 08:03 PM

Thanks for the pics, Dave...I really tookvery few :coolup:

The Comondu church annex was really "old Mexico"...and after the shower and venting the place a bit, all seemed better. Poor Dave managed a night with stereo snorers in adjacent rooms....no chocolates on the pillow....Oh!...no pillows.

Comondu is a MUST for any serious Baja lover.

motoged - 11-27-2016 at 08:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Sweetwater  
....

Nice description but as always, useless without pics (and fancy maps of your route).


You had your chance....:biggrin:

Mulege Canuck - 11-27-2016 at 08:27 PM

I drove the road from Mulege to San Juanico last year in a F350 and a large camper. Very slow as we had to cut back a lot of brush.

What was the road like from Commondu to San Isidro? I am about 8 ft wide with that camper. Are there a lot of narrow sections against rock bluffs where I would be too wide?

The road last year from San Isidro to the highway was in pretty good shape. No problems for us.

wilderone - 11-28-2016 at 08:17 AM

"This was how Gary chose to secure our door" -- LOL!

AKgringo - 11-28-2016 at 08:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
"This was how Gary chose to secure our door" -- LOL!


It kept my dog off the street! :biggrin:

motoged - 11-28-2016 at 08:28 AM

MC,
The Comondu - San Isidro road has been recently maintained and is fast and open (no efforts at topiary needed), and no cliffside or narrow stretches or width issues (like Day One route)....WillyAirstream indicated that a race was held there a few months ago and some work was done on the road.....gas in San Isidro and La Purisma as well as two places in San Juanico.


Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I drove the road from Mulege to San Juanico last year in a F350 and a large camper. Very slow as we had to cut back a lot of brush.

What was the road like from Commondu to San Isidro? I am about 8 ft wide with that camper. Are there a lot of narrow sections against rock bluffs where I would be too wide?

The road last year from San Isidro to the highway was in pretty good shape. No problems for us.


[Edited on 11-28-2016 by motoged]

bajatrailrider - 11-28-2016 at 08:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by o3dave  
Valet parking in San Juanico even. We stayed at Cowabunga bar and grill plus bungalows (pictured above).
Mike and cholie were very gracious hosts as we rolled in during their Thanksgiving dinner.

I could not get the other guys to swim after this.

And in Commandu, there are no keys or keycards at the hotel. This was how Gary chose to secure our door. Worked nicely


[Edited on 11-28-2016 by o3dave]
Thanks for great story and pictures.:)

AKgringo - 11-28-2016 at 08:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I drove the road from Mulege to San Juanico last year in a F350 and a large camper. Very slow as we had to cut back a lot of brush.

What was the road like from Commondu to San Isidro? I am about 8 ft wide with that camper. Are there a lot of narrow sections against rock bluffs where I would be too wide?

The road last year from San Isidro to the highway was in pretty good shape. No problems for us.


MC, You will have no problems on the Comondu to San Isidro road. It has been recently repaired, and is a good road for any light truck or SUV. It is a bit narrow on the grade coming out of San Jose Comondu, but you will have plenty of room unless you encounter traffic.

The road was far better than the road from San Isidro to Mex 1! I last drove it in November 2014, and it has washed out badly since then.

Tommorow, or the day after, I am going to check out the road from San Javier to the Commondu's. It may be a few days before I have internet options to report back.

David K - 11-28-2016 at 10:34 AM

Thank you AK!

willyAirstream - 11-28-2016 at 11:49 AM


Quote:

morow, or the day after, I am going to check out the road from San Javier to the Commondu's. It may be a few days before I have internet options to report back.



looking forward to that report also.

Thanks for the story and pics.

KurtG - 11-28-2016 at 12:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willyAirstream  

Quote:

morow, or the day after, I am going to check out the road from San Javier to the Commondu's. It may be a few days before I have internet options to report back.



looking forward to that report also.

Thanks for the story and pics.


Also looking forward to that road report. It is one of my favorites. Glad that the bad report I was given about San Isidro/Comondu was inaccurate.

Mulege Canuck - 11-28-2016 at 06:20 PM

Motoged y AK

Thanks for the road info for Commondu to San Isidro. I am planning a San Ignacio - San Juanico - Commondu - Muluge Loop this February.

Looking forward to your report on the San javier road report.

Thanks again

MC

liknbaja127 - 11-28-2016 at 07:28 PM

I think we passed you guys, We were almost to San Juanico, and you gave us a wave, we were in a white Bronco. 2 bikes and a small car.
We had just come from Comondo! We started in Loreto. we took the road that was just below San Javier, It was also marked with race tape.
Was a little rocky in some places but not bad all in all! will try to post some pictures.

David K - 11-28-2016 at 07:43 PM

Comondú
:light:

liknbaja127 - 11-28-2016 at 07:46 PM

Sorry, had a long drive today!

David K - 11-28-2016 at 08:06 PM

I am jealous you were there and I wasn't! Have a great holiday season amigo!

bkbend - 11-29-2016 at 11:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Ged forgot to mention the shower in the annex that we stayed in. There was a dirt path to an outbuilding in the court yard, which had a floor drain and a pipe in the wall that could have held a shower head, but didn't. Our shower was a five gallon bucket filled at the faucet in the garden, and a plastic pitcher used as a ladle. Refreshing! The same five gallon bucket was also the plumbing for the toilet, if we had been brave enough to use it!


I've found that when you stay at places that don't leave the chocolate on your pillow you may not find a shower head, or find one plugged with mineral deposits, so I've begun carrying a cheap shower head with the other junk I haul around. It may not make it onto a moto trip supply list but worth taking up space on a 4-wheel trip. Especially if your wife is with you.

motoged - 11-29-2016 at 11:43 AM

ANY water source on a desert moto trip is luxury...:biggrin:

The second luxury is your own TP....lots of Cordon to squat behind :smug:

Loreto to San Jose Comondu

AKgringo - 11-30-2016 at 09:31 AM

The Paved road from Mx 1 toward San Javier was a delight to drive, with some fantastic scenery. There was one construction detour for about a half mile (no problem) and some hairpin turns to watch out for, but a good road.

I found the road north just past Rancho Viejo, and it is not marked, but you will you know you are on it by the pink flagging along the route.

As LB127 stated, it is a pretty good road that has had recent work done on it. You can't smooth out bedrock with a blade though, so when it is rough, it is definetly 4x4 terrain, or a tough 2wd with limited slip or a locking differential.

There are two grades to climb and descend, with some interesting switchbacks. I liked it better than the road between San Isidro and Mx 1, because in between the rough spots, it is a pretty nice cruise!

By the way, I encountered two more bicycle riders about half way across. It turn out, they were part of the same group that we crossed paths with in Arroyo San Raymundo.

They were German, and started their ride in Alaska, nine months ago! And get this, they were amazed that I could drive my Kia down the route they traveled!

Mulege Canuck - 11-30-2016 at 10:06 AM

Thanks AK

We're there any sections against rock bluffs where my 8 ft wide camper would not fit ?



MC

AKgringo - 11-30-2016 at 10:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
Thanks AK

We're there any sections against rock bluffs where my 8 ft wide camper would not fit ?



MC


There are some vertical rock faces on the north end of the road, but you should have plenty of clearance. You will probably be brushing the dust off the camper in a few places with fairly soft new growth vegetation, but nothing you should have to get out and cut back.

Sweetwater - 11-30-2016 at 10:39 AM

I have moto'd that road from SJ Comondu to Loreto years ago. I recall that the western side had some boulder fields that I would describe as similar to glacier tailings when I backpacked. Have they filled in with dirt or just gotten tamped down, no way a blade would have any effect on them. How was the road across the volcanic spine between east/western sides, again those areas had some razor sharp rocks with assorted baby heads that blades wouldn't touch. I would love to ride that road again if it's in better condition. Any photos?

Mulege Canuck - 11-30-2016 at 10:52 AM

Thanks AK

New route planned now.

MC

AKgringo - 11-30-2016 at 10:58 AM

Sweetwater, they just ran a race across that road, which I would describe as more north/south. The north end (westerly) does have quite a few potential spear tips, but they are mostly visible, or beaten down. There is one arroyo about the mid point that has lots of cobbles, but as you suspected, they have pretty much been beaten into a drivable surface. The southern (easterly) end is pretty smooth sailing.

I assume you are riding a dirt/off road capable machine, I wouldn't take a chopper on that road!

Mulege Canuck - 11-30-2016 at 12:49 PM

Thanks AK

New route planned now.

MC

David K - 11-30-2016 at 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Sweetwater, they just ran a race across that road, which I would describe as more north/south. The north end (westerly) does have quite a few potential spear tips, but they are mostly visible, or beaten down. There is one arroyo about the mid point that has lots of cobbles, but as you suspected, they have pretty much been beaten into a drivable surface. The southern (easterly) end is pretty smooth sailing.

I assume you are riding a dirt/off road capable machine, I wouldn't take a chopper on that road!




Since this map was produced (2010):
The road from Loreto to San Javier is paved.
The road from Ejido Francisco Villa to San José Comondú is paved.
A new paved road from Las Barrancas goes north to San Juanico (off the map).

[Edited on 12-1-2016 by David K]

willyAirstream - 11-30-2016 at 05:26 PM

a side note....the new road from Los Barrancas to San Juanico is 50% complete, wide shoulders and leisurely driving, the other half is paved, but is not being maintained, large pot holes, wash outs etc. The new portion is being done in 3 mile +/- sections. An easy drive, but stay extra alert on the old pavement.

Thanks everyone for the reports.

Bajazly - 11-30-2016 at 05:51 PM

FWIW, in September we did the San Isidro-Comondu-Loreto via San Javier trek and while it was rough in spots, not much 4x4 was needed. In comparison, a week ago we did Viscaino to Conception the long way. Went out to the coast at San Ignacio then into San Juanico for lunch and gas.

Left there to La Purisima via the dirt and arrived just before sundown. We had no info on the road out of San Isidro to Conception figuring it was a more or less graded road. As we started up the grade right after the left turn we figured when we get to the top we'll be off like the wind. Not so much. There are very few spots that you could go over 20 or so mph then back into short steep rough up and down. The last 10 miles or so before Mx 1 were pretty smooth and fast but we both agreed, while quite a bit shorter than the Comondu road, this one was much slower and rougher. Nothing close to impassable, other than the truck parked in the middle of the road in the bottom of a gully we had to wheel around 15ish miles from Mx 1 at 8pm, but nothing like what we found the Comondu road to be like.

David K - 1-29-2017 at 09:45 AM

Ged, after re-reading this just now... I realized I never saw the photos you took of the ruins or remains of Mission La Purísima???

Any chance I can see what you got? I need to get there myself!

FOUNDED IN 1720 as the 6th California mission:


1956


1956


1949

Here are photos of it from the 1920s:


Behind pole with cross.


1926


Earlier.


1906

David K - 1-29-2017 at 05:44 PM

The twin towns of Comondu and La Purisima are Shangri-la towns per the old Baja books... I was in Comondu as a kid when it was on the main 'highway' to La Paz (1966). Need to go back!

ztrab - 1-30-2017 at 02:51 PM

Heading down the day after Valentine's. It's been 5 years since I rode from Scorp Bay via San Isidro to the Comondus, then Loreto. Sounds like the trail is in great shape, at least for a 501 Husky. Has anyone done the connector from SJC, NE to to the San Isidro Hwy 1 trail. It's about a 24 mile section through El Picacho? I'm looking for ways to work my back North from Loreto without going back through Scorp Bay. I was looking at a few ways to pick my way back through the Raymundo wash or I'd like to try from San Jose Magdalena over to El Patrocinio/tres palmas, etc. I know the area around Guadalupe ruins has been in pretty bad shape fro years.

Thanks all, Mike

mcnut - 1-30-2017 at 04:42 PM

I try and monitor this and several other forums for just that information and have seen nothing posted.
I specifically asked about the El Picacho route on this forum recently but heard nothing.
Another short lived option was the Guajademi route between San Isidro and Mulege which was recently reported as impassible.
As you probably know, the route W out of Mulege, the N and NE thru San Jose de Magdalena is impassible north of La Presta and will probably never be repaired or replaced. A shame because it was a lovely route.
Everything I have read about the La Presta W to Tres Palmas (through San Juan de la Pila) options sounded like all but impassible. Not sure I remember hearing of success on that route (or variations) in several years. Even Raymundo, while very useable sounded somewhat blown out and tedious.

My comments are for a good rider on good equipment, lightly loaded.

I hope others will comment and we learn of improvements.

Bruce

mcnut - 1-30-2017 at 04:57 PM

Another thought is to ask in the BN Offroad Forum

And welcome to BN, it's refreshing to read such an informed and specific 1st post!

Bruce

Baja

ztrab - 1-30-2017 at 10:38 PM

Thanks McNut. \I've been a member here since 2006 but always forget to visit/post but lately I have found such good info. I'll be sure to share my more interesting trail reports when I get back. Used to fly in with my dad in the very early 60's to Serinidad and spent a lot of time in Sanispac at a fishing camp run by a gringo and his Mexican wife, I am sure he is long past and I can't remember his name, he had a barge we would go out on overnight. A long history in the peninsula, still love to dirt bike there.

David K - 1-31-2017 at 07:45 AM

Great! !!!
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