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Cliffy - 3-22-2026 at 11:47 AM

"Tree huggers" is more generational than political
"Detrimental climate change"?
What's the detriment? Warmer air? More rain? Less snow?
SO what! The weather changes Has been for 5 billion years

Again- adapt or die
The tree is still there

surabi - 3-22-2026 at 11:51 AM

"So what!" makes it patently obvious that you have zero understanding of the repercussions of climate change.

JZ - 3-22-2026 at 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
"So what!" makes it patently obvious that you have zero understanding of the repercussions of climate change.


Why can't you get it through your thick skull that it's just a grift by politicians and their cronies to get rich and gain power? :?::?::?:

You have 60 years of evidence for god's sake. One crazy prediction after another has been proven wrong. :wow:




[Edited on 3-23-2026 by JZ]

JZ - 3-22-2026 at 07:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


The predictions are a side show. They easily distract you ignoramuses.

The science is clear, change has happened, change will continue to happen, and man is a primary cause. Timing of changes are are variable.



>> The predictions are a side show. They easily distract you ignoramuses.
Who made the predictions? Why are they trying to distract people?


>> The science is clear, change has happened, change will continue to happen
This is 100% true.

>> Man is a primary cause
This is 100% unproven

What you left out is all of the data on the politicians using the CC as a fear tactic to get rich and gain power. Can you please comment on that?

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  


And I have never denied that man has an affect on the climate
The only argument is how much and what will its long term affect be
Which at this point is only guess work.


The word affect is a verb; the word effect is a noun. You have it backward.

[Edited on 3-22-2026 by SFandH]


Not always, although in this case correct.

"Exceptions and Nuances:
Effect (Verb): Can mean to bring about or implement, usually in the phrase "effect change".
Affect (Noun): In psychology, this refers to an expressed emotion.

The defensive, dismissive response of the poor grammar poster is telling. When intelligent people have their grammar corrected, they are normally appreciative, because they prefer not to sound uneducated.

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 11:23 AM

Plenty of present day examples of how successful countries with Social Democracies are, with high standards of living, education, and medical care, low crime and poverty rates.

"Key Social Democracies and Influenced Nations:

Nordic Model Countries: Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden are considered high-socialism models (known as the Nordic model), emphasizing high public spending, union participation, and universal welfare.

European Nations: Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, and Portugal often feature coalition governments led by social democratic parties, resulting in strong social safety nets.

Other Examples: Countries such as Canada, New Zealand, and Great Britain often experience significant social democratic influence through social programs, labor union activity, and left-leaning political parties."

Loco chooses to be willfully ignorant, refusing to understand the difference between Social Democracy and Communism, apparently not knowing that social democracies do not mean everything is owned by the govt. and all resources distributed equally, but are also capitalist systems which support free enterprise.





[Edited on 3-23-2026 by surabi]

SFandH - 3-23-2026 at 11:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  


And I have never denied that man has an affect on the climate
The only argument is how much and what will its long term affect be
Which at this point is only guess work.


The word affect is a verb; the word effect is a noun. You have it backward.

[Edited on 3-22-2026 by SFandH]


Not always, although in this case correct.

"Exceptions and Nuances:
Effect (Verb): Can mean to bring about or implement, usually in the phrase "effect change".
Affect (Noun): In psychology, this refers to an expressed emotion.



Correct you are. I should have started my sentence with the phrase "Most commonly."

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 01:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  



NONE of them are able to defend themselves militarily without their dependence on the USA military. That has been proven this last year.




Are you under the impression those countries have been attacked in the past year and were unable to defend themselves? Do please let us know which of those countries were invaded in the past year and depended on the US military to repel the invaders, as it seems to have somehow escaped being reported on by every news agency worldwide.

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 04:37 PM

Oh, so "unable to defend themselves militarily" has instantly morphed into "impotent in their Ukraine assistance", since your lie got called out. Those are two completely different things.

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 08:36 PM

Assisting another country in their efforts to fight off an invader is not "unable to defend yourself". Are you purposely dense or just that dumb?

And alliances like NATO exist because there is strength and safety in numbers-everyone in the alliance commits to helping each other out if needed. Your blustering attitude that they are "dependent" on the US is contrary to the spirit of an alliance, which is one of cooperation, rather than antagonization and "we're better and more powerful than you and you need us".

surabi - 3-23-2026 at 09:41 PM

Am well aware that Ukraine is not part of NATO. What is your point?

It's the US that benefits the most from being a part of NATO, rather than the other way around. Sorry, not sorry that doesn't jive with your erroneous notions and ludicrous comparisons to Daddy not paying for designer jeans and nights out on the town.

https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/nato-vital-us...

[Edited on 3-24-2026 by surabi]

How about deleting your OFF-TOPIC crap!

AKgringo - 3-24-2026 at 07:29 AM

This very long thread is complicated enough just talking about climate change affecting Baja.

Tioloco - 3-24-2026 at 07:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
This very long thread is complicated enough just talking about climate change affecting Baja.


Roger that AK- deleted...
Back to climate change and man's contribution:
Baja California formed over the last 10–12 million years when the Pacific tectonic plate began moving northwest, tearing the peninsula away from the North American plate. This tectonic separation created the Gulf of California (Sea of Cortez) and transformed the peninsula into a drifting landmass moving along with the Pacific Plate, a process that continues today....

The sky is NOT falling, ladies and gents. Baja is always changing, with or without us.

Thank you Crazy Uncle!

AKgringo - 3-25-2026 at 10:20 AM

You removed your half of the side-bar conversation, and returned on -topic.

More climate info....KCRA in Sacramento informed me today that this March has been an average of daily temps 11+degrees above normal. We just completed 10 days of meeting, or exceeding all time record high temps.

Also, it seems likely that we will finish the month with no measurable rainfall!

mtgoat666 - 3-25-2026 at 10:40 AM

USA reliance on oil for energy is dangerous, as the current Iran war economic impacts illustrates. USA used to have wise policies to foster renewable energy sources like wind and solar. Current admin is aggressively hindering renewable energy development, like their total war against development of wind energy.

Even if you disagree about pursuing renewable energy for as a means of mitigating climate change, you should be smart enough to see that development of renewable energy and increases in energy efficiency are good for us as it lessens reliance on oil that makes us pawns of world oil markets.

pacificobob - 3-25-2026 at 02:23 PM

Clearly you're not concerned about the whale cancer caused by wind energy.

lencho - 3-25-2026 at 03:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
Clearly you're not concerned about the whale cancer caused by wind energy.
April 1st is next Wednesday! :lol:
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