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illegal arrest & deportation.

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toneart - 12-21-2006 at 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Hey toneart, mi amigo ----------

You're avatar raises my blood preasure. Could you tone it down to a slap or something less brutal?

Yes, sorry. I will try to do that tonight. I know it is probably irritating.

DENNIS - 12-21-2006 at 09:46 PM

doct-----
sackmeister ----------

Is there any way you might post here around the same time?
You know, something like, "Hi Ted", and the reply could be, "HI sack".
You each seem to post in spurts. A little spurt of doct one time and a little spurt of sack at another.
That way we can dispell the rumor that you are the same person and I will give you a sincere apology for having mentioned it.
What do you think? It would be a big help.

aquaholic - 12-21-2006 at 09:48 PM

..Holy Sh*t, I was wrong...they're back. ...and, the information they have added has taken us how far...???

DENNIS - 12-21-2006 at 09:56 PM

Yeah.....thats good. I always considered strangulation an act of endearment.

Sackmaster - 12-21-2006 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by docthaddeus
i still have a life and i must move on. the only thing, and i say it again, that won't ever change in my life, is my quest for justice in mexico.

Justice, you ain't gonna get. Unless it's very private and vindictive. Your money, property and possessions are long gone. I would suggest you follow your own advice...Move on.

I talked to Ted briefly this evening. He said that he was filling out some type of incident report about the matter. He said that it was some type of human rights organization that he was providing the report to. I asked him on what side of the border this organization is on, and he said it was on the American side. I asked him if they had a website, and he said that they might, but I don't think he was completely sure. I have to figure that they have a website. I'll try and remember to ask him the name of the organization. The guy was beat from having been out for a good part of the day, so I didn't press the issue.

In some ways Ted is moving on, but it's only been 2 months since it happened, so as you might imagine, he's still feeling the effects of it all. Just being forced to live in a motel room is enough of a reminder. A minute by minute, hour by hour, daily reminder.

Ted's not alone, I don't think. If you read his thread starter, I think he alluded to having a girlfriend. The few times that I called, a couple of times a woman answered, so at least he's not alone. It must to suck to be in your 50's or 60's and go through what they are going through. I have to say that we did talk about his past, and it is quite colorful. He's been a millionaire a couple of times. He told me that when he was younger he was not the type to let the grass grow under his feet. He was once a general contractor, I think he used to build houses, though I'm not sure. He's done alot with his life, alot more than more than I have with mine. To tell you the truth, I really don't know if the guy is a good guy or a bad guy. All I know is his life was crushed to bits in Rosarito Beach a few months ago. Or so it seems.

toneart - 12-21-2006 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Hose A
toneart may I suggest......

Good one Hose A! I actually do better unleashed. I will try to lose my avatar tonight if I can remember how.

Sackmaster - 12-21-2006 at 09:59 PM

If anyone asked me a question that I did not answer, I wasn't ignoring you. It just means that I didn't see it.

This thread has alot of pages in it, and so there's a very good chance that I didn't see your question. Next time, please PM me your question. That way you can be sure that you'll get an answer. I think it's only fair that I post both your question and my answer to it on the board for everyone else to read. If you don't want me to post it in the forum, please say so and we'll keep it private.

Don Alley - 12-21-2006 at 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Sackmaster

I just spoke to Ted a few moments ago (12-21-2006) on the phone. He just got back from having been out all day. I told him that this thread was 11 pages long, and almost at 7000 views. Pretty impressive for a guy who never really posted in a discussion forum before.

Yep, a NEW RECORD for a newbie!

Congratulations to the new winner of the Pilar Award!
(http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=17942)

Sackmaster - 12-21-2006 at 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Minnow
FM-3?

Minnow, you might wanta PM Ted with that question. Good God, didn't someone ask that question a couple of days ago? BTW, I did ask him if he had an FM-3, and he said no. For the record, he told me that for one year he lived in an apartment in Playas on the beach in TJ, and ahh heck, I forget how long he said he lived in Rosarito Beach.

DENNIS - 12-21-2006 at 10:06 PM

Sackmeister ---
Lets not go to all the trouble of PM. Just look above, seven posts, and you'll see my question.
An answer will be appreciated.

Mango - 12-21-2006 at 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sackmaster
If anyone asked me a question that I did not answer, I wasn't ignoring you. It just means that I didn't see it.

This thread has alot of pages in it, and so there's a very good chance that I didn't see your question. Next time, please PM me your question. That way you can be sure that you'll get an answer. I think it's only fair that I post both your question and my answer to it on the board for everyone else to read. If you don't want me to post it in the forum, please say so and we'll keep it private.

Dude, maybe you should have logged in as Ted before you posted this.

What could you answer that would be of any value for us unless you are Ted? This whole thing is about helping Ted...isn't it?

(edited for syntax)

[Edited on 12-22-2006 by Mango]

aquaholic - 12-21-2006 at 10:10 PM

Sackmaster: You're defending the undefendable. You have no knowledge of the answers to the very reasonable questions that have been posed to Ted on this thread. Let Ted come forward and make his answers public. And, no...we're not going to call him. He brought the subject to this forum; let him answer here. You might be surprised how much help, and sympathy is available here...

Sackmaster - 12-21-2006 at 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Don Alley

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Yep, a NEW RECORD for a newbie!

Congratulations to the new winner of the Pilar Award!
(http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=17942)

Yeah that's what I told him earlier tonight! This is a guy who 7 days ago today didn't even know what a "thread" was! He wanted to know what the heck you guys were all talking about! He was wondering how a thread could get this big despite his inattention. I just told him about people like Dennis and a few other nonsensical ramblers here who are lost in space, and he got the point. :rolleyes:

Bruce R Leech - 12-21-2006 at 10:22 PM

I sent him emails and he would not answer them why do you think a pm would work?

Bruce R Leech - 12-21-2006 at 10:54 PM

I just received an email from docthaddeus and he gave me what I think are honest answers to every question that I asked of him. since it was sent in a private email I will not post any part without his permission. more tomorrow I am going to bed.

Sackmaster - 12-21-2006 at 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by aquaholic
Sackmaster: You're defending the undefendable. You have no knowledge of the answers to the very reasonable questions that have been posed to Ted on this thread. Let Ted come forward and make his answers public. And, no...we're not going to call him. He brought the subject to this forum; let him answer here. You might be surprised how much help, and sympathy is available here...

Well then you might be waiting awhile. And I've already touched upon some of the reasons why. Filling out incident reports to a human rights organization or trying to find a way of making some money is alot more important than tending to this thread. If you really want to know the answers to the "very reasonable questions" you have then you're just gonna have to wait it out. And if you had any real sympathy like you say you do you'd call him yourself. I don't believe you have as much sympathy as you think you do. Talk is cheap thanks to Ben Franklin and high speed fiber optic cable. Then again unless you're Bruce R. Leech and you can't afford to make the call.

I'm trying to keep in mind that we're in an Internet discussion forum, and in this type of medium it's sometimes impossible to judge a persons true character or where their heart really lies. You can trot in all of your forum buddies one at a time to tell me how great you and the rest of you are, but the fact is no one has done a damn thing for Ted. In fact, some of the posters in this thread are like jailhouse punks when you take into consideration what Ted and his family have gone through.

What have I done for Ted? I haven't given him a penny. But I have given him some good leads as to how he can make some money with very little effort. It wouldn't be alot of money, but every bit helps. All of this was done on the phone. Get it? The P-H-O-N-E.

All of this sympathy and caring you're talking about is a crock. Remember where you are right now. You're in Cyberspace, a virtual world, not a real one. What are you, a comedian? Are you trying to be funny? Your virtual caring and your virtual sympathy aren't worth chit in the real world. If you're gonna talk it, walk it. Until then, don't waste my time, or Ted's. If you gotta question for me, PM me, I'll answer it.

Mango - 12-22-2006 at 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by Sackmaster

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Well then you might be waiting awhile. And I've already touched upon some of the reasons why. Filling out incident reports to a human rights organization or trying to find a way of making some money is alot more important than tending to this thread. If you really want to know the answers to the "very reasonable questions" you have then you're just gonna have to wait it out. And if you had any real sympathy like you say you do you'd call him yourself. I don't believe you have as much sympathy as you think you do. Talk is cheap thanks to Ben Franklin and high speed fiber optic cable. Then again unless you're Bruce R. Leech and you can't afford to make the call.

I'm trying to keep in mind that we're in an Internet discussion forum, and in this type of medium it's sometimes impossible to judge a persons true character or where their heart really lies. You can trot in all of your forum buddies one at a time to tell me how great you and the rest of you are, but the fact is no one has done a damn thing for Ted. In fact, some of the posters in this thread are like jailhouse punks when you take into consideration what Ted and his family have gone through.

What have I done for Ted? I haven't given him a penny. But I have given him some good leads as to how he can make some money with very little effort. It wouldn't be alot of money, but every bit helps. All of this was done on the phone. Get it? The P-H-O-N-E.

All of this sympathy and caring you're talking about is a crock. Remember where you are right now. You're in Cyberspace, a virtual world, not a real one. What are you, a comedian? Are you trying to be funny? Your virtual caring and your virtual sympathy aren't worth sh-t in the real world. If you're gonna talk it, walk it. Until then, don't waste my time, or Ted's. If you gotta question for me, PM me, I'll answer it.

I've got news for you. The internet is as real as any phone.

Again. Why would anyone concerned and willing to help Ted need to PM you a question? Wouldn't it be better to send it to Ted?

I'd guess that most people here have not called or sent a PM to Ted; because, Ted would be better served if the information needed to determine how best to help him was in an open public fourm. That, in fact, is what bajanomad is.

The whole reason for this tread is here is to help Ted and his family. It is both amusing and confusing to me, and others, as to why you even continue to post here in the manner that you do. What value is it to Ted?

People offered help and asked a few questions. Instead of helping, you have turned this whole thing into a sideshow. I can tell you that your antics have been entertaining for me and others.

I have plenty of sympathy for all humankind and have done much to help others in this world. I know many others here have done some great things for other people too. Before we get into a big pis*ing match about who is the greatest human; maybe, you should go read a few of the other treads here and see for yourself.

One of the first things I realized when I first found this board was how much people here cared for and helped each other; often, in times of great need. There truly are some great people that log onto bajanomad; and, they have done some great things for others.

Go ahead. Look. You seem to be full of energy and zeal. Use it in a good way and good will be reaped. Adjust that feedback loop if you want positive results.

Meanwhile, all we can do here is wait to see Bruce's post tomorrow.

Thaddeus is a computer idiot

Sharksbaja - 12-22-2006 at 01:11 AM

Part of the suspicion lies in the fact that Ted posted a serious message in a forum. Most would then figure he knew how they operate.
It also seems that after Googling and researching Ted via that number it turns out he is a computer idiot. He posted on Yahoo many times during the last year and boy, you would not believe the questions.

Ok, I now believe that he is a real person. But...is he the Sackmaster?? :lol:

The sac knows forum life well.

I doubt it but if he is, he's a genius. This whole exchange of suspicion and controversy would be put to rest if Ted could manage a computer. I suggest someone teach the guy. If he can repair the stuff he claims to then he could definitely learn enough to carry thru with this post.

BTW, he is married.... and I feel bad for his wife and daughter. He should never have put their entire fortune at risk. Is he a U.S. citizen. It appears that he is.

"Oh", and he uses that word often, an FM3 would have been very handy!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!!

Phoney cops, bribed cops, hired cops, threatened cops? You choose.

Sac, let the meister speak more for himself. It would help us get to know him, rather than second hand knowledge.

[Edited on 12-22-2006 by Sharksbaja]

I believe Thadeus is on the level

Skipjack Joe - 12-22-2006 at 01:48 AM

Don Alley - 12-22-2006 at 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Sackmaster

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Originally posted by Don Alley

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Yep, a NEW RECORD for a newbie!

Congratulations to the new winner of the Pilar Award!
(http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=17942)

And you've done a heck of a job yourself, Sackmaster! :biggrin:

Crusoe - 12-22-2006 at 08:55 AM

Ok OK OK-- Its all just business as usual in Mex. Heres a short version of a little kidnapping tale that was related to me personally by a longtime very closley related and highly trusted friend of mine. In Puerto Vallarta. 10 tears ago my friend who owns a high end clothing company was negotioiatimg a clothes manafacturing deal with a very well estabished manafacturer family in P.V. Over the years he had become close friends with the small and humble family who owned the operation.The local drug cartel boss's kidnapped their 18yo son and demanded a huge ramson. That was paid and the boy was returned unharmed.A few months later the local cartel chiefs got wind that the same family owned outright an old established small hotel in downtown P.V. and kidnapped their 16yo daughter and the ransom for her was the hotel which was paid. It was put in some bogus Columbian companys name. Now the once thriving family was all but wiped out so they turned to all their legal Mexican govt. channels for help at all levels.After fighting dishonest Mexican beauricrats and polticians for 5 years they gave up and moved to Seattle as illigals.They were robbed of over 5 million$ of assets and had know legal recourse. You never know what is really happening for sure sometimes, when it comes to Mex. officialdom. Now do we?

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 10:38 AM

I have been in communication with docthaddeus and I feel that he is a person that came to Mexico with a dream and a project and a lot of enthusiasm. I think he may have been in a hurry to get going and made some critical mistakes such as getting good advice on what he wanted to do and probably others. this is something that most of us have done in the past. what happened to him after that was horrific. and again think he may have made more mistakes in the handling of the situation. I believe his deportation was illegal but that is only my opinion. when this thread got out of control was when Sackmaster stepped in. he advised Thaddeus that I and others here were hi enemy's and so he quit posting for a while. I think that Sackmaster has done nothing but harm to Doc here on the nomads forum.

I take offense of the docs opening comments of stay out of Mexico and it is a lawless terrible place because I have learned to work with the laws and customs here. but I can truly understand how he could feel that way after all he has been through. after all he never really learned how things work here.

I am planing on staying in communication with him and helping him in any way that I can.

abreojos - 12-22-2006 at 11:15 AM

I have always believed in what docthaddeus is saying. I think it is very important that who ever helps, they should be shielded from any possible recourse and the best way to do that is make this a very public issue north of the border. docthaddeus stumbled onto a can of worms that no one on this side of the border can stand up against and still enjoy living here.

[Edited on 12-22-2006 by abreojos]

Be careful Bruce

Skipjack Joe - 12-22-2006 at 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I have been in communication with docthaddeus and I feel that he is a person that came to Mexico with a dream and a project and a lot of enthusiasm. I think he may have been in a hurry to get going and made some critical mistakes such as getting good advice on what he wanted to do and probably others. this is something that most of us have done in the past. what happened to him after that was horrific. and again think he may have made more mistakes in the handling of the situation. I believe his deportation was illegal but that is only my opinion. when this thread got out of control was when Sackmaster stepped in. he advised Thaddeus that I and others here were hi enemy's and so he quit posting for a while. I think that Sackmaster has done nothing but harm to Doc here on the nomads forum.

I take offense of the docs opening comments of stay out of Mexico and it is a lawless terrible place because I have learned to work with the laws and customs here. but I can truly understand how he could feel that way after all he has been through. after all he never really learned how things work here.

I am planing on staying in communication with him and helping him in any way that I can.

Be careful Bruce and work with him offline. You have your own family to consider. You're a good man.

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 04:58 PM

Anybody here that believes that Ted and sackmaster arn't the same person hasn't paid attention.
Throughout this drama, I have never said that doc's dilema was unproven.
What I said too often was that doct and sock-puppet are the same person.
I still believe that.
Aside from that, I hope Bruce's instincts are true and that he can be of assistance to Ted.
I wish the man the best from here out. He has seemingly had the worst already.
Ted -- If what happened to you had happened to me or a close friend, I'd be locking and loading.

Regardless of the differences which we have, I wish you success in your quest for justice.

When's the cast party?

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 07:12 PM

Larry.........

In Mexico.......... Yes. This is the only place I know which would support the mystery presented by doct.
I don't believe all that he says but I think he had an experience with the powers that be.
I mean, this is the only place I've ever been where you can get a speeding ticket in a parked car.

[Edited on 12-23-2006 by DENNIS]

comitan - 12-22-2006 at 07:21 PM

What I think wer'e back to is Hi=Profile vs Low-profile.

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 07:29 PM

I don't think this can happen to Larry or Dennis or even myself because we are pretty savvy to how you do things here. But I have seen this sort of thing happen to other people over the years right here in Mulege. and every time it has been a person that is new to Mexico an jumps right in and starts some kind of business. also they are the type that wont listen to anyone that tries to help them. they expect Mexico will conform to there way of thinking. we have one in the making right here right now that will end in a disaster within a year.but they will not do things the Mexican way and break or bend the laws every chance they get. I am sure you guys must know of a story like this.

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 07:49 PM

Sorry for the change of statement up there but, after a moments thought it seemed appropriate.
Bruce --- Right on. So many times have I seen a new-comer to the area who brings his U.S. mindset and thinks it is so superior to the Mexican way of life that he can supercede the law and overwhelm the local business world with his know-how. Couldn't care les about law and order, his arrogance is more important.
Time and time again.
Most fail. Those that dont, hear from an early point the squeak of the wheel that needs to be greased.
Oh well, we'll get into that later.

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 08:44 PM

Ah..it's so nice and quiet here.

Merry Christmas everybody.

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 08:48 PM

Merry Christmas and god bless everyone.

Paula - 12-22-2006 at 08:50 PM

Larry and Dennis,

My computer and my calendar both say that it is the 22nd. So shall I watch for your edits after midnight, or are we back to the future????

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 08:56 PM

We cant tell you everything, Paula. You'll just have to sit and stare at the screen four more hours to find out.

Merry Christmas

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 09:02 PM

Paula ---
Oh.... I see what you mean. Guess you have to talk with Doug about being ahead of his time.

Merry Christmas anyway

jerry - 12-22-2006 at 09:04 PM

dang what a waist of time is it worth it??

Paula - 12-22-2006 at 09:05 PM

Hmmmmm... I think I have something better to do.

Merry Christmas to you too.

bajalou - 12-22-2006 at 09:20 PM

?????????

My computer date/time and the date/time of all the posts is in sync

??????????????

DENNIS - 12-22-2006 at 09:23 PM

Edits say the 23rd...... not that it matters

Paula - 12-22-2006 at 09:25 PM

Oops, time flew by again while i was typing, and several posts were made so my last one sounds snotty. Doug is certainly an up to the minute guy and then some!

Merry Christmas to all :dudette:

fdt - 12-22-2006 at 09:29 PM

Well if you'd like you can respond to the Baja Nomad Toy Drive post, seems like I'm the only one posting if not for a few (very few) others. I don't think that would be a waste of time.

Dave - 12-22-2006 at 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I don't think this can happen to Larry or Dennis or even myself because we are pretty savvy to how you do things here. But I have seen this sort of thing happen to other people over the years right here in Mulege. and every time it has been a person that is new to Mexico an jumps right in and starts some kind of business.

He wasn't new to Mexico. Should have known better.

No FM3? Then no legal lease, no basis for all the vehicles, business plans, remodeling, furniture...NADA.

Just like sheep to the wolves.

Bruce R Leech - 12-23-2006 at 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

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He wasn't new to Mexico. Should have known better.

No FM3? Then no legal lease, no basis for all the vehicles, business plans, remodeling, furniture...NADA.

Just like sheep to the wolves.

I agree Dave he could have save him a lot of grief buy having an FM3 also it is a little more difficult to deport some one that has a FM3 you have more rights and options such as hearings. unfortunately he mad that and many more mistakes that all led to his currant problems.

docthaddeus - 12-23-2006 at 10:48 AM

AS SOON AS I GET MY THOUGHTS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, I HAVE A MESSAGE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS ARRAY OF OPIONIONS AND, THEREAFTER, I WILL CONTINUE ON MY QUEST. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE PERSONS VOICE TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THIS WORLD.

Attention

Sharksbaja - 12-23-2006 at 02:12 PM

is what he got, fanned thoroughly.

DENNIS - 12-23-2006 at 03:17 PM

This thing is going to 10,000. What's the record?

Tropical Storm John

Summanus - 12-23-2006 at 03:19 PM

almost 60,000 hits.

DENNIS - 12-23-2006 at 03:25 PM

YIPES ...........

DENNIS - 12-23-2006 at 04:11 PM

I dont think doct is in the running.

WHA??

Sharksbaja - 12-23-2006 at 04:58 PM

Tropical Storm John beat-out Tropical Storm JR??

Whodathunk! :lol:

docthaddeus - 12-26-2006 at 09:27 PM

Been doing some reading on Mexican law. It is illegal to steal someone's possessions. Regardless, of who they are. Or, where they came from. What's worse are the people that see it done, and do nothing about it. The question is WHY? Is it FEAR or SURVIVAL.

jerry - 12-27-2006 at 12:15 AM

i dont think the question is why its if they can get away with it?? and i think involving the bystanders isnt going to get anyone
just my opinion

Earth to Thaddeus

Dave - 12-27-2006 at 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by docthaddeus
Been doing some reading on Mexican law. It is illegal to steal someone's possessions. Regardless, of who they are. Or, where they came from. What's worse are the people that see it done, and do nothing about it. The question is WHY? Is it FEAR or SURVIVAL.

Without an FM3 most of your possessions were in country illegally. Filing a theft report would be the same as a drug dealer claiming his stash was stolen.

Summanus - 12-27-2006 at 12:22 PM

guys, there is not much meat left on this bone.....

Thats' my kind of mod er eating

Sharksbaja - 12-27-2006 at 12:43 PM

:lol:

DENNIS - 12-28-2006 at 05:57 PM

Hey doct -----
How are you doing?
And your sock-puppet..... How is he doing?
I get from the above blood-and-guts visual that some here consider you're entertainment quotient , dry and deteriorated.
Gee whiz doc, I dont. I dont think we've scratched the surface of your dilema as of yet and we all should try better to understand you.

Your topic created huge response here and I would like to see it continued as a point of interest to care-less posters and serious viewers as well.

It never was un-Baja. It was interesting because viewers could relate to it, from a vulnerability standpoint anyway. We all worry about this, regardless of legal standing in Mexico. It should be discussed to a point of clarity for all.
C'mon back doc but leave your sock- puppet out of it. It caused nothing but problems.

doradodan - 12-28-2006 at 06:02 PM

amen. nuf said, basta ya

docthaddeus - 12-29-2006 at 09:50 AM

I have'nt been back as much as would like to be because I'm finally getting reaction to my experience via numerous e-mails which I intend to use in my new web site entitled Don't go 2 Mexico. I'm working on the site now. I have some colleges that want to get involved in making a documentary about this type of terrorism that takes place everyday within a stone thow away from our border.
For the negative viewers. The deportation papers stated that I had 24 hours to get my belongings. However, I never got that paper until I was taken to the border and turned over to the U.S. side. The U.S. immigration officer advised me not to go back. If caught, I would be facing 7 years in the Mexican prison system. He said that this was all part of their stealing process.

Minnow - 12-29-2006 at 10:05 AM

Doc, you need to retitle this thread arrest and deportation, not illegal. It has been explained to you here that you had no rights in mexico in regards to your posessions. You were, in the eyes of the law, a smuggler. You are lucky to get out with your freedom. Your posessions were your fine. What would happen to you in the U.S. if you did the same? Time for you to move on.

David K - 12-29-2006 at 10:23 AM

Doc, this web site is for people who want to and who do go to Mexico's Baja peninsula. With that in mind, promoting not going to Mexico here, on this forum, would be counter to the goals and efforts of Doug Means and his moderators and supporters.

I have been going to Mexico (Baja California and the mainland) since 1965 hundreds of times and have NEVER had a bad experience that would have me think twice about returning.

I went there as a 'tourist' or traveler, explorer, vacationer, etc. and not to try and take over or change any place mind you. Mexico belongs to the Mexicans afterall and I am sure they all don't think a foreignor can just waltz in with a bunch of money and set up shop (with good intentions perhaps) whenever or where ever he pleases.

Spend a couple years researching an area, get to know all the people who will be your neighbors or clients, bend your plans to their desires or wishes... I believe then you would be a welcomed addition.

I am sure nobody is happy about what happened to you, it was terrible indeed... However, as you can gauge by the responces, nobody is really very surprised either.

Mexico is not America or any other country. It has its own way of doing things, some of which seem very backwards perhaps, but it is THEIR way. Let them make the changes and be patient... The election of a non PRI president two times in a row is a major change.

Telling your story here was fine, as bad news is as important as good news... but to continue an anti Mexico campaign on this site would not be welcome by most, I would imagine...

May your future be free from conflict and full of happiness.

coconaco - 12-29-2006 at 10:48 AM

Telling your story here was fine, as bad news is as important as good news... but to continue an anti Mexico campaign on this site would not be welcome by most, I would imagine...

Well said- I think we are at the meat in the bone!

cabobaja - 12-29-2006 at 11:37 AM

David K/coconaco: Well stated. Could not agree with you more!!

Agree

DianaT - 12-29-2006 at 11:48 AM

I think David put it all together very well. Thank You.

Doc, I wish you well.

Diane

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