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DianaT - 11-7-2009 at 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
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Originally posted by BajaNuts
As in every situation involving personal ethics....be it harvesting seafood out of season, speeding, mordida, voting more than once, or any other situation, follow your heart and you'll sleep at night.

Well said.

My heart says that the fair thing in this situation is to follow the rules the generous providers of this contest have set up, (i.e.1 vote per person per day). So how do I deal with the fact that many others-- some of them fellow Nomads-- are gleefully defrauding the contest originators, thereby reducing the impact of my honest vote, by scorning those clear conditions?

Part of what makes a society function is agreement on a set of rules for the mutual good. Sometimes those rules are imposed without representation on required daily activities and may be difficult to follow (for example 60km/hr speed limit on some Mexican freeways). Those are an interesting moral question.

The obvious contempt for the rules in this particular case-- a completely optional activity where the prize is a charitable donation-- is also morally interesting. And to me, disappointing. :(

--Larry


What I find interesting is the disappointment. It always amazes when anyone places personal disappointment or personal pride in a group of people who have registered for an internet forum. Somehow, there seems to be this illusive family feeling.

OK, most here either do, or have visited Baja or live there full or part time, but that is it---no more, no less.

Yes, we have found information here that had helped us, and we in turn have been able to offer assistance---assistance that would have been offered regardless of a forum membership----and I well imagine that holds true for many. We have met some nomads we like and now consider friends, some with whom we enjoyed a passing meeting, and some we don't care if we ever see again and there are some we hope to never meet in person.

But that is it! If one of my children demonstrated a moral value system which I found wrong, with that I would be disappointed. If one of them suddenly became a supporter of Sarah Palin, that would cause me distress and a feeling of disappointment.

I just find it interesting and maybe a study on how this fairly new technology gives people a different since of friendship, family, a sense of belonging.

Lencho, this is not really a message to you even though I used your quote---it is more a musing about the nature of forums.

I sincerely respect those who see and feel the unethical behavior, but I also respect and feel the other side who have a very different perspective of this situation.

Just some thoughts about the nature of internet forums.

just moving the link to the last post

Dianamo - 11-8-2009 at 06:06 AM

I'm in for only one vote today!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?si...

lizard lips - 11-8-2009 at 06:56 AM

Ok......

DENNIS - 11-8-2009 at 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by comitan
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle...


I'm in.

This link takes you right to the ballot box.

Bajagypsy - 11-8-2009 at 08:04 AM

voted!

vandenberg - 11-8-2009 at 10:12 AM

Please, someone try and bring the link to a new post and back on the front page.
I tried and it didn't work. Didn't get to the voting part.

DENNIS - 11-8-2009 at 10:19 AM

Here it is Ed. Just quote this post then cut 'n paste the link.

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle...

DianaT - 11-8-2009 at 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by lencho
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
What I find interesting is the disappointment. It always amazes when anyone places personal disappointment or personal pride in a group of people who have registered for an internet forum. Somehow, there seems to be this illusive family feeling.

Question of attitude rather than medium. I've worked in online communities since long before the WWW made them accessible to the general public, and there is nothing "illusive" about the relationships in many of them. Example: this forum is running on Linux and Apache, major open source software development projects maintained by groups of people spread around the globe working tightly and sincerely together for the greater good. Many have never met in person, and would laugh at the allegation that their ties to their fellows are any less real than if they were sitting in the same room.

It's possible to be shallow and insincere in person or on line. It is also possible to be real in either medium.

--Larry


Interesting, and I respect and appreciate your thoughts---as I said, I was just musing. And I agree with your last statement. However, and this is just from some personal experience so it probably cannot be globalized--- From this forum and other forums we have met people who do a great job of sounding sincere on line, and are totally different people in person.

It is more than just what might be a false first impression when meeting someone---their online persona seems quite real, and that is not always the case. Then again, there are others who are sincere in both venues, from our experiences.

Thus, illusive might have been the wrong word to use---and if it is a some kind of family, well I guess I could accept that----probably not any less or more dysfunctional than a live family. And I have a few family members with whom I do not want to spend time with. Sincerity can be false and motivated by other forces both on and off line.

Thanks, your explanation made it easier to understand, as they say in one of those well over used statements, where you are coming from.

The internet has been a revolution in many areas.

Diane

[Edited on 11-8-2009 by DianaT]

comitan - 11-8-2009 at 11:11 AM

I have tried to re-post the original thread but it is gone, cannot edit either.

shari - 11-8-2009 at 11:26 AM

wow, this thread got a whole lot more interesting the last couple days...

Vag....I LOVE the idea of elders pointing out when one "SLIPS OUT OF INTEGRITY" what a lovely way to put it...face it folks, we have all slipped on occasion...sometimes unintentionally or with the best of intentions... and if we could only gently help our fellow man/woman not slip up as often...the world would be a nicer place.
Boy am I glad I stuck to voting only once a day!!

DianaT - 11-8-2009 at 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
You're not alone in that experience. This site, as many on the Web, is an entertainment forum with little personal accountability required by the administration or community, and a lot of folks can't handle that unrestricted an environment and choose to act out in ways they wouldn't dare in a face-to-face connection.



For me, it is not as much saying or acting in a way someone would not dare to do face to face, it is more the insincere presentation as to who someone really is----one who loves and cares for all, especially other members of the forum---met too many who when the chips are down, run the other way. Some talk like Father Joe and act more like Bernie Madoff.

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Originally posted by lencho

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The internet has been a revolution in many areas.
Sure has! Though I'd qualify that as "WWW" rather than "Internet", since most people use only that particular subset of the myriad of services the Internet makes possible. I personally put it (WWW) on the same level of importance as Gutenberg, but one level beyond: the press made practical the mass distribution of information to the public. The WWW has put mass distribution of information *by* the public.

Saludos-- Larry


I definitely plead computer and internet and www ignorance---extreme ignorance. However, I really like your comparison to Gutenberg----both methods of mass distribution have changed everything from politics to religion.

Well, since this thread has been totally hijacked, it is a good thing the other thread started----also probably time to end it----

There is obviously a strong difference of opinion among some about ethics, morality and the acceptance of other's---lectures and conversations that are probably better left alone.

Actually, my questioning of forums was probably not a fitting question, I am always curious about the new dynamics created by this revolution.

Saludos
Diane

DENNIS - 11-8-2009 at 02:03 PM

What happened to the puppys?

DENNIS - 11-8-2009 at 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
Dunno-- has anybody stopped voting because of our chatting over here in the corner? :)

--Larry


There was a time you would have scolded me for just that. :lol:

Mulegena - 11-8-2009 at 04:45 PM

I got the calico frog today!

vgabndo - 11-8-2009 at 04:50 PM

I have NOT stopped voting once a day. On the subject of forum dynamics I find it interesting that after "playing daddy" and starting this ethical discussion, how afraid I am that I've harmed the effort to win the contest. There are folks on this board, whom I've never met, that I really consider to be friends. Since I try to process my communication through the filter of "is it clear, concise, direct and truthful?"I choose to refer to them as "cyber-friends".

If nothing else, this discussion has kept the donation link bumped to top of the list, and I hope that helps.

DENNIS - 11-8-2009 at 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
"playing daddy"


Nah...you didn't do that. All you did was voice a valid opinion. Since that, your posts have shown an unearned remorse. We know you weren't being mean but, your judgement was correct. Don't punish yourself for that.
And, don't punish me for my observation.

I think all is well here now...thanks to you and your willingness to stand up. I thank you for that.

BajaNuts - 11-8-2009 at 05:24 PM

The sandbox is still a happy place :biggrin:

Bajagypsy - 11-9-2009 at 04:49 AM

bump

lizard lips - 11-9-2009 at 07:11 AM

I don't trust those Puerto Ricanos so I voted twice.....

DENNIS - 11-9-2009 at 07:33 AM

I'm in.

BajaNuts - 11-9-2009 at 10:33 PM

"straying" from the thread just happened on the calendar posts...

This one seems to keep going to the dawgs...........which is a good thing........


(dog puns intended.....:lol: )

Mulegena - 11-10-2009 at 01:06 AM

Squirrel @ 12:05 a.m.

Bajagypsy - 11-10-2009 at 05:16 AM

Link moved to bottom

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?si...

lizard lips - 11-10-2009 at 05:59 AM

Again---

DENNIS - 11-10-2009 at 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by comitan
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle...


This link takes you right to the ballot box.


I'm in.

vgabndo - 11-10-2009 at 02:05 PM

Thank you Dennis. A few years ago I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Speak your truth even while your voice quakes" somehow it really struck a chord. Not long after, I had the opportunity, in a room full of partisans, to face down my congressman for his efforts with 50 other Republicans to abolish the separation of church and state. I was hissed and boo-ed, and dinegrated by the mayor, but I had done what was right and I walked out standing taller. I need to remember how good it feels to have a voice and to be completely accountable for what that voice says.

Just voted for 10-10

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... /a>

DENNIS - 11-10-2009 at 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo

Just voted for 10-10



Well, that's it, Perry. If you can't say and stand by what's on your mind, you probably don't have one of your own.

Hope that wasn't the date you put up there. :lol:

vgabndo - 11-10-2009 at 02:43 PM

OOPS. My secret is out. I'm running a month behind!

DENNIS - 11-10-2009 at 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
OOPS. My secret is out. I'm running a month behind!


Arn't we all. :D

lizard lips - 11-11-2009 at 07:10 AM

Again.

DENNIS - 11-11-2009 at 07:46 AM

Me too

vgabndo - 11-11-2009 at 12:35 PM

OK, if 10-10 won't work...lets try 11-11:lol:

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>

[Edited on 11-11-2009 by vgabndo]

Bajagypsy - 11-12-2009 at 05:57 AM

bump

lizard lips - 11-12-2009 at 06:30 AM

Got it done

DENNIS - 11-12-2009 at 08:29 AM

Me 2

docsmom - 11-12-2009 at 11:02 PM

Done. Got the bear for the first time. What a cute little fattie he is.....

BajaNuts - 11-12-2009 at 11:12 PM

site was sslllloooowwwwww,


but I got a LION!
bounce

BajaNuts - 11-12-2009 at 11:34 PM

ethical questions 4.97562.................


IF- 3 people are living in the same household, and there is 1 internet connection for that household, how many votes should that household do?



one internet connection but 3 separate people~~~

3 separate people x 6 browsers....=18 votes (we already know others are voting on multiple computers...)_


3 people x 1 browser...




Don't want to get all twisted up here, but the extenuating circumstances say.................what do you think?


one vote per person, one vote per browser, one vote per minute....




I'm already on the monthly auto-donation for BajaDags, so this is just asking.....

comitan - 11-13-2009 at 07:40 AM

Nut's there are more than 5000 members on this forum, I would expect that you would get more than 5000 different answers.

shari - 11-13-2009 at 08:10 AM

each person can vote once a day = 3 votes
that frog is psycadelic or however you spell it

DENNIS - 11-13-2009 at 09:20 AM

I'm in.


lets bump this up:

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... amp; lt; /a>

lizard lips - 11-13-2009 at 07:30 PM

Innnnnn again

lizard lips - 11-14-2009 at 07:01 AM

another day

DENNIS - 11-14-2009 at 08:25 AM

The link seems to be down. I'll try later but, I'm in.

lizard lips - 11-15-2009 at 08:10 AM

VOTE PEOPLE.... I'S A GOOD THING YOU ARE DOING!

DENNIS - 11-15-2009 at 08:14 AM

Makes me feel good. I'm in.

voted and

Dianamo - 11-16-2009 at 06:59 AM

to the top of the page again!

lizard lips - 11-16-2009 at 08:32 AM

INNNNNNNN AGAIN

[Edited on 10/14/2009 by lizard lips]

DENNIS - 11-16-2009 at 08:37 AM

MEEEEEEEEE TOOOO


Or, I will be. Seems the site is down. I'll come back later.

[Edited on 11-16-2009 by DENNIS]

vandenberg - 11-16-2009 at 09:55 AM

Hey Doug,
is there any way you could make that link a thread of its own, so we don't have to hunt for the link?

lizard lips - 11-17-2009 at 07:36 AM

YEP

Dianamo - 11-17-2009 at 08:40 AM

again!

DENNIS - 11-17-2009 at 08:42 AM

Me too.

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>

BajaNuts - 11-17-2009 at 10:44 PM

me-me-me- toooooooo

lizard lips - 11-18-2009 at 06:18 AM

AGAIN

DENNIS - 11-18-2009 at 08:56 AM

Yep....almost forgot how to spell SQUIRREL but, I took a lucky guess.

shari - 11-18-2009 at 08:59 AM

as I do every moring... I voted and donated food...what I was wondering is...does everyone have trouble and time out? I always time out a couple times before my vote goes through...this site has some pretty cool shirts on it too and stuff to buy....bird dog got an outstanding chocolate lab shirt...the whole shirt is a big lab head...cool.

DENNIS - 11-18-2009 at 09:05 AM

I've run out of time a couple of times. The site can be slow.

lizard lips - 11-19-2009 at 01:36 AM

YEPPPPPP, I'M INNNN

DENNIS - 11-19-2009 at 07:06 AM

Yes Indeedee

Dianamo - 11-19-2009 at 10:14 AM

again!

lizard lips - 11-20-2009 at 01:19 AM

IN! :tumble:

DENNIS - 11-20-2009 at 07:13 AM

Tambien

Mulegena - 11-20-2009 at 09:51 AM

Time Out too many times

could not vote today... :(

BajaNuts - 11-20-2009 at 09:58 PM

keep trying, Mulegena,


on a good note, the kid is having a sleep-over;;;; $$$$$$

cha-ching! Well, at least a couple extra:saint:

DENNIS - 11-21-2009 at 07:57 AM

I'm in.

vandenberg - 11-21-2009 at 09:47 AM

Haven't missed a day yet !!

DENNIS - 11-21-2009 at 09:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>


Bump this forward.

toneart - 11-21-2009 at 11:47 AM

Being a real dog/person myself, I voted again today. Now I am in my corner chewing on a bone. ;)

vgabndo - 11-21-2009 at 01:59 PM

I don't say anything about it every day, but I still vote (almosty) every day!:lol:

When is the deadline, and how are we doing?

[Edited on 11-23-2009 by vgabndo]

BajaNuts - 11-21-2009 at 06:54 PM

toneart, would that be a T-bone?


yum~

lizard lips - 11-21-2009 at 10:56 PM

Done again!

toneart - 11-21-2009 at 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by BajaNuts
toneart, would that be a T-bone?


yum~


Naah! :no: I'm a t-pet player.:cool:

lizard lips - 11-22-2009 at 09:14 AM

In again.

Don't forget to click on the "HUNGER" button and give a hungry animal a meal. You can do it as many times as you want.

DENNIS - 11-22-2009 at 09:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>


Bump this forward.


I'm in.

toneart - 11-22-2009 at 10:55 AM

Today the magic word was fish.

DENNIS - 11-22-2009 at 11:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Today the magic word was fish.


That wasn't a fish. It was an elephant. Strong similarity, tho. :lol:

I've been voting also

Keri - 11-22-2009 at 02:39 PM

just don't put it here everyday. How are we doing? k:yes:

BajaNuts - 11-22-2009 at 06:13 PM

baja dogs is #98 overall, #2 international

The #1 international one from Costa Rica is #60 overall- still got a ways to go!

Mulegena - 11-23-2009 at 01:07 AM

I'm back from a mad dash to Mulege and have voted again.
Returned with Suzi-girl, my three-legged darling who was missing me. We'll be traveling back and forth together from now on.

Also arrived home with a little c-cker spaniel who I literally scooped off Mex.1 on Friday night somewhere between Catavina and El Rosario. I don't know the extent of his injuries and will take him to the doctor first thing Monday morning.

lizard lips - 11-23-2009 at 06:52 AM

OK, IN AGAIN

DENNIS - 11-23-2009 at 07:07 AM

YEP....

toneart - 11-23-2009 at 01:26 PM

Thank You for Voting!

Thank you! Your vote has been confirmed*. Stay involved by voting every day after you click, and help spread the word by telling your friends and family!

Click Here To Tell A Friend!

You voted for:
Baja Dogs La Paz, A.C.
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More Info

Una vez mas! :)

lizard lips - 11-24-2009 at 06:11 AM

Again----from Tampico :yes:

DENNIS - 11-24-2009 at 07:52 AM

Tampico? WOW...You do get around.

I'm in.

DENNIS - 11-24-2009 at 09:28 AM

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>


Bump this forward.

Keri - 11-24-2009 at 09:32 AM

I;m in. ,k:D

Mulegena - 11-24-2009 at 11:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
Also arrived home with a little c-cker spaniel who I literally scooped off Mex.1 on Friday night somewhere between Catavina and El Rosario. I don't know the extent of his injuries and will take him to the doctor first thing Monday morning.


The little boy has a displaced fractured pelvis. Great pain in spite of pain meds. He needs 6-8 weeks quiet convalescence to repair. His nest is at my bedside so I can touch his ears when he whimpers in the night.

He'll be up for adoption when he heals, folks.

DENNIS - 11-24-2009 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mulegena
His nest is at my bedside so I can touch his ears when he whimpers in the night.

He'll be up for adoption when he heals, folks.


They'll have to drug you before you'll give up that pup. :lol:

Thanks for what you're doing, Mulegena. You have a giant heart.

Mulegena - 11-24-2009 at 11:14 AM

I've named him Regalito, the Little Gift.

He is a darling. Honey-colored and half-grown. Silky ears.

Mick says, "Oh I love c-ckers. We had one when I was a little boy."

vgabndo - 11-24-2009 at 08:32 PM

bump

DENNIS - 11-24-2009 at 08:41 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchalle... lt; /a>


Bump this forward.

BajaNuts - 11-24-2009 at 09:19 PM

bonehead (me) finally figures it out!

I've been looking for the donate food click for WEEKS! I finally figured out that when I click on my favorites link it takes me directly to the Challenge voting page. I finally figured out that if you click on the "shelter" link on the top (far right) it takes you to the shelter help home page which has the donate food link-----


DUHHH!

voted again

Dianamo - 11-25-2009 at 06:31 AM

I am in the habit of voting and will continue to click the food button after the shelter challenge has ended. The site has many cute gift items for animal lovers that helps to fund animal care and rescue. :light:

lizard lips - 11-25-2009 at 06:34 AM

IN

vgabndo - 11-25-2009 at 06:26 PM

Thanks Dennis

BajaNuts - 11-26-2009 at 12:22 AM

take advantage of any visiting friends/relatives or others to cast all votes possible.

happy holidays!

[Edited on 11-26-2009 by BajaNuts]

remember to vote today!

Dianamo - 11-26-2009 at 09:36 AM


lizard lips - 11-26-2009 at 10:12 AM

VOTED

DENNIS - 11-26-2009 at 10:43 AM

Me too
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