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captkw - 11-13-2013 at 12:09 PM

Myself,, found out I'm a lesbian with a added feature!! :spingrin:

wessongroup - 11-13-2013 at 12:17 PM

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Myself,, found out I'm a lesbian with a added feature!!:spin grin:

DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 12:20 PM

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Dennis, I find myself wondering where you have been hanging out to have witnessed all this men in crotchless cowboy chaps giving bj's on the street? Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, although I like to think I've got around a bit, but I have never witnessed this kind of flagrant behavior, which sounds to me like it would be illegal in most places regardless of sex or sexual orientation.

Stories abound concerning abhorrent behavior on the streets during Gay parade activities in Hillcrest, as well as other gay enclaves. I don't have to be an eyewitness to be aware of it. Outrageous behavior makes the news when it affects other citizens and they let it be known.

I didn't go to the moon either, but I know someone did.

Against the law? That's funny. Law turns a blind eye during these bacchanals because the city mayor is usually out in the street dancing with someone's pool boy....just for the solidarity photo op and the gay vote...of course.

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Did you unwittingly book a SF vacation to the Castro District? :lol:

Never been to SF. Tell us about that district. Sounds Cuban.

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Skipjack Joe - 11-13-2013 at 01:07 PM

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Did you unwittingly book a SF vacation to the Castro District? :lol:

Never been to SF. Tell us about that district. Sounds Cuban.

It was/is the center of SF's bath houses. This one's from that area.

http://sanfrancisco.gaycities.com/bathhouses/190007-eros

See what you missed. :lol:

DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 01:20 PM

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It was/is the center of SF's bath houses. This one's from that area.

http://sanfrancisco.gaycities.com/bathhouses/190007-eros

See what you missed. :lol:

Ohhhh lordy..........Some of that "live and let live" love stuff, eh.

Don't fairys understand that they're supposed to take off their clothes when they bathe, or is that a "Fruit of the Loom" ad? :lol:

motoged - 11-13-2013 at 01:24 PM

Dennis just keeps on digging himself deeper into his foxhole...I wonder if there is any oxygen left in a hole that deep. He seems to have killed the canary some time ago.... :lol:

DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Dennis just keeps on digging himself deeper into his foxhole...I wonder if there is any oxygen left in a hole that deep. He seems to have killed the canary some time ago.... :lol:

I'm comfortable in my hole. If you had your way, a lot of other people would be comfortable in there as well.

My hole is a warm, private place.......and that's the way it's gonna stay.

Anybody around here have some Judy Garland music we can enjoy? :lol:

Sing it Judy.................. "Kiki the hospital attendant" is gonna do a little dance for us. :lol:

Gawwwwdammmmm....I'm getting funnier by the post. :lol:

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Cisco - 11-13-2013 at 03:56 PM

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Sing it Judy.................. "Kiki the hospital attendant" is gonna do a little dance for us. :lol:

Gawwwwdammmmm....I'm getting funnier by the post. :lol:

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"Actress Judy Garland is widely considered a gay icon; The Advocate has called Garland "The Elvis of homosexuals."[1] The reasons frequently given for her standing as an icon among gay men are admiration of her ability as a performer, the way her personal struggles seemed to mirror those of gay men in America during the height of her fame, and her value as a camp figure.[2] Garland's role as Dorothy Gale in The Wizard of Oz is particularly noted for contributing to this status."

Barry A. - 11-13-2013 at 05:44 PM

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Just your opinion, of course, and not much more. I don't see Dennis's position as being radical, or in any kind of "hole" at all. He basically reflects my position, and I have no problem finding adaquate "oxygen".

You lefty folks are soooooo intolerant!!!! judgemental!!!! and narrow-minded, it seems to me, when evaluating folks that don't agree with you. :rolleyes:

Barry

motoged - 11-13-2013 at 06:01 PM

Barry,
The "hole" I am referring to is the "foxhole" Dennis offered as part of his position in an earlier post....

And for me, this is not about left or right as much as about compassion for others. Too bad that for some folks, thinking is simplistically reduced and categorized politically in a us-them/ right-left / right-wrong framework.

"Each to their own" may be considered "lefty", or, as others have expressed....as being tolerant.

Enough said on my part. this topic is "getting old". I have expressed my position as best I can....some have reflected similar thinking....and others the polar opposite. Such is life.

I am not saying that my position is correct....it is just my opinion....and one which is just as relevant as yours, Dennis's, or anyone else's.

Glad you have enough oxygen....we can both breathe easily....and that is what counts.

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DENNIS - 11-13-2013 at 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

Just your opinion, of course, and not much more. I don't see Dennis's position as being radical, or in any kind of "hole" at all. He basically reflects my position, and I have no problem finding adaquate "oxygen".

You lefty folks are soooooo intolerant!!!! judgemental!!!! and narrow-minded, it seems to me, when evaluating folks that don't agree with you. :rolleyes:

Barry

Thanks Barry....thought I was alone here.
Anyway....I was getting tired of responding to the posts that really made no point other than saying, over and over, I was anti-gay without being able to point out anything in my posts that might indicate that.
I am, and admit to be, anti- extraneous gay behavior in public. Displays of sexuality of all types should be kept off of main street. Those streets belong to the kids too, and I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing my kids at a gay pride parade when the premise of their existence is sexuality....sometimes bizarre.

Chupacabra - 11-13-2013 at 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?

He claims to watch men in crotchless chaps prancing around swapping blowjobs?

This Dennis person is one conflicted dude; I'm starting to feel sorry for him.

"Oh My"

captkw - 11-13-2013 at 08:01 PM

myself have no problem as a lesbian trapped in a mans body....hehe !! :lol:

bajacalifornication - 11-13-2013 at 08:29 PM

Alegar con pendejos es engrandecerlos.

Parque

captkw - 11-13-2013 at 08:34 PM

no habla englisa

Kgryfon - 11-13-2013 at 10:48 PM

"Stories abound concerning abhorrent behavior on the streets during Gay parade activities in Hillcrest, as well as other gay enclaves. I don't have to be an eyewitness to be aware of it..."

Kind of like all those stories about crime in Mexico, huh? Somebody said...well this one time...I heard...yep, must be true and happening on every street corner all the time!

Ateo - 11-14-2013 at 06:21 AM

Dennis,

I took my 11 and 14 year old kids to gay pride parade in Hillcrest this year. We had a great time and didn't see ay BJ's in the street.

I think it was definitely a "teaching moment", and I believe both kids are better because of the experience.

We should change the name of this thread to "Tolerance in Punta Banda??"

:LOL: :lol:

I think what we have here is the difference in what a kid is taught in 1940's vs. what a kid is taught in 2013.

They're not "fairies, fruits, and pool boys". They are human beings. They are someone's kids. A different roll of the dice and you could've been gay. Would your currently configured "straight" self be talking crap on the gay Dennis?

You're smart enough to know that your words here are doing nothing other than hurting the gays and lesbians on this board.

I'm heading south in about 20 minutes. I should be at the turnoff in Maneadero in about 3 hours. Wanna meet me for a beer at Canadas? JK, too early for beer...................

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DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Ateo

I took my 11 and 14 year old kids to gay pride parade in Hillcrest this year.
I think it was definitely a "teaching moment", and I believe both kids are better because of the experience.

My folks would take me to Barnum and Bailey Circuses when I was a kid. From then on, I had fantasies about being like Clyde Beatty. Point is....how would you know what it taught your very impressionable kids?

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I think what we have here is the difference in what a kid is taught in 1940's vs. what a kid is taught in 2013.

Your kids most likely learned a lot that day, but you didn't teach it to them. They absorb what they learn from their environment.
Besides....how could possibly begin to teach your kids something of which you claim to know nothing about?

In closing out that point.....I couldn't care less what your kids learn, think or do, but don't think they weren't affected past the point of confusion by their day at the parade.

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They're not "fairies, fruits, and pool boys".

Let's not disparage one of the major food groups for the sake of making a pointless point.

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They are human beings. They are someone's kids. A different roll of the dice and you could've been gay. Would your currently configured "straight" self be talking crap on the gay Dennis?

OK....once again, I reiterate my only point: gay doesn't bother me. Not in the least.
Blatant public displays of alternative life-style sexual behavior do...and if you try to sell the point that a pride parade doesn't most freely exhibit these qualities of behavior, your deluding yourself, and your kids.

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You're smart enough to know that your words here are doing nothing other than hurting the gays and lesbians on this board.

Bullsheit. Pure, unadulterated Bullsheit.
Gays, of all people, should be appreciative of anyone who outwardly voices his/her own opinion...mine being civil and tolerant to any and all responsible and reasonable communities within our culture.
Their interpretation is welcome here by me.......whatever it may be.

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I'm heading south in about 20 minutes. I should be at the turnoff in Maneadero in about 3 hours. Wanna meet me for a beer at Canadas? JK, too early for beer...................

:cool:

Yeah....kinda temprano for that, Jon. Gimme a rain-check, if you will.
Nice chatting with you at any rate.

People

captkw - 11-14-2013 at 09:07 AM

as a hetro guy that lives in the lesbian capitol of the USA and 70 miles south of the "city" a well known homo capitol....who cares anymore...people are people are people are people are people are people....fat..skiny..short..tall...smart...dumb.(lots)..rich...poor..its the way it is .....I'll never forget the first time I brought my new wife/lady/other half down to Baja...I looked her in the eye and said without hesitation....."honey, you are gonna see a lotta dogs that are hurting...And you know I spend my life helping...But..I cant save the whole planet..let alone all the dogs your gonna see..Its gonna tear at your heart !! but we cant save them all"""...on are 3rd winter we broke down and saved one and now there is no turning back !! its not a perfect planet !!! but,,its the best one I have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 11:05 AM

For a while, I thought Dennis was reserving his vitriolic disgruntlement for my counterpoints, but I see he treats everyone who offers a differing opinion the same way

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While it is a bit of a relief, I realize that I am in good company with other thoughtful people. :cool:

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 11:32 AM

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For a while, I thought Dennis was reserving his vitriolic disgruntlement for my counterpoints, but I see he treats everyone who offers a differing opinion the same way

I don't see many "differing opinions." Only blind, reasonless disagreement with my opinions.

"Where's the Beef?" ...........[ooops.....no pun intended].

Jeeezo, Ged.....you guys are like a bunch of civil rights nautzees in the 70's that only want to shout and demand understanding for a behavior you wouldn't begin to tolerate in front of your own home.
I'll leave you here with one question: "Would you hire Liberace and RuPaul to babysit your fourteen year old son?"

Maybe not....huh.

Hypocrisy is the most egregious sin being committed here.

Another thing........I only respond when I see my name, or references to my points. There's a good way to bring it all to an end.

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 11:38 AM

Dennis,
Do you always answer your own questions to suit your position? :lol:

My 14 year old son did not need a babysitter as he was mature enough to behave himself on those occasions.

You seem to be back to your assumptive logic that all gay men will sexually abuse a male child. Have you dealt with your abuse issues in any other way than the fear we see you spewing?

Barry A. - 11-14-2013 at 12:02 PM

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Dennis,

You seem to be back to your assumptive logic that all gay men will sexually abuse a male child. Have you dealt with your abuse issues in any other way than the fear we see you spewing?

Uhhhhh, another example of the "Pot calling the Kettle black"?!?!?!?!?------talk about "Assumptive logic" (key word 'assumptive')!!!! IMO Dennis NEVER said, or even inferred, any of what you claim. He seemed to me to be talking about the odds of something possibly happening------we ALL evaluate the "odds" when making ANY decision-----or at least rational people do!!! eh???

Barry

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 12:10 PM

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Dennis,
Do you always answer your own questions to suit your position? :lol:

When I agree with myself, yes. Don't you?

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My 14 year old son did not need a babysitter as he was mature enough to behave himself on those occasions.

Although lame, as well as obvious, I'll take your reply as affirmation that you understand the question, but choose to avoid it's meaning.

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You seem to be back to your assumptive logic that all gay men will sexually abuse a male child.

Never my premise, statement or feelings, whatsoever. Show me where it was!!!
Mine is, and always has been that promiscuous uni-sexual conduct, or any other type for that matter, has no place in a public setting, such as a pride parade on Main Street. I further contend that neither RuPaul, nor Liberaceesque men would be acceptable male models for the emotional development of an impressionable young boy unless you think that the proper use of cold-cream for makeup removal is just what a second baseman for the Yankees should be aware of.

Again...the Gay Pride Parade.........who with any reasonable degree of objectivity doesn't see and understand that these parades have a sexual basis for their existence?

Here ya go. Look through them again and keep in mind, these were the ones fit to print in mainstream media. I would imagine the cutting room floor was knee deep in rejects:

http://tinyurl.com/mron7uv

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Have you dealt with your abuse issues in any other way than the fear we see you spewing?

I was never abused...except, of course, by liberals. :lol:

genes vs enviro

Skipjack Joe - 11-14-2013 at 01:26 PM

I was doing a bit research when this thread came up and discovered that Magic Johnson's son is gay. His mother said that she knew it as early as 5. "A mother senses these things".

Anyway, I wonder how many of us would think differently if our own child was gay.

Oh yes, and there was a guy on you tube from the Midwest whose parents kicked him out of the house after he repeatedly tried to change, even contemplated suicide, but could not. It was unbelievable. They tried to drive the evil out by really painful methods. Really sad, actually.

'Not Laughing is intolerable'

Pompano - 11-14-2013 at 01:43 PM

Me age 3... this explains a lot.

Barry A. - 11-14-2013 at 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I was doing a bit research when this thread came up and discovered that Magic Johnson's son is gay. His mother said that she knew it as early as 5. "A mother senses these things".

Anyway, I wonder how many of us would think differently if our own child was gay.

Oh yes, and there was a guy on you tube from the Midwest whose parents kicked him out of the house after he repeatedly tried to change, even contemplated suicide, but could not. It was unbelievable. They tried to drive the evil out by really painful methods. Really sad, actually.

There are always individual horror-stories----------which are only truly relevant to those involved, and not a reason for discrimination against non-gays. We have laws on the books to handle these situations.

My cousin is VERY obviously gay, and a PHD in Russian Literature. I also have a very good friend who is noticeably gay (thru dialect) and runs a very successful Cattle Ranch in Utah--------neither has absolutely ANYTHING to do with how I feel about some "gays" and their in-your-face antics which I find deplorable and offensive!!! similar to how I feel about Skin-head-Natzies and KKK folks and Black Panthers who also shove things in other peoples faces.

Barry

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 01:56 PM

Roger,
So nice to see your pic of younger days and the opportunities they provided....setting a bit of a course for you....as a young sailor, of course.

I hope the waters are calm but with a bit of wind behind you :saint:

JoeJustJoe - 11-14-2013 at 02:01 PM

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You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.

Nonsense. Show one point which I've made that wasn't comparative to a counter-point.
Show one point which I've made that was intolerant to acceptable, tolerant behavior.
Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American society. My society.

If they would keep their perversions in their bedrooms, like most hets do, they wouldn't be getting heat from people like me.

I'm tired of your defense of this behavior, ged. You are socially out of line.

What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic, and then turn around and say, show me where I'm intolerant.

Look in the mirror Dennis.

BTW great analogy by another "Nomad" member looking at the behavior of heterosexuals at the " Mardi Gras in New Orleans, where it's common for young drunk women to bare their naked breasts for "beads" from down below on the street or on the balcony, and speaking of down below, these young women will sometimes lift their skirts, and get completely naked, while the men will urinate in the streets and run around acting like complete drunken idiots looking for pure debauchery fun!

Oh What outrage of these so-called straight woman baring it all, and sometimes in front of little kids!

Speaking about not doing it in front of you. It wasn't too long ago that a gay couples had the police looking in bedroom windows to see what kind of sex two consenting adults were engaged in. I'm talking about the landmark Lawrence v. Texas Supreme court case that overturned a Texas law prohibiting consensual, private sexual activity between gays.

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 02:17 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

wessongroup - 11-14-2013 at 02:29 PM

Dittos .. . :lol:

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
BTW great analogy by another "Nomad" member looking at the behavior of heterosexuals at the " Mardi Gras in New Orleans, where it's common for young drunk women to bare their naked breasts for "beads" from down below on the street or on the balcony, and speaking of down below, these young women will sometimes lift their skirts, and get completely naked, while the men will urinate in the streets and run around acting like complete drunken idiots looking for pure debauchery fun!

Oh What outrage of these so-called straight woman baring it all, and sometimes in front of little kids!

Sooo...that's acceptable public behavior in your soiled book, Joe? Just because it's Mardi gras...in where....New Orleans?
Not exactly the pillar of cultural development as I recall from the flood aftermath. But you do have your heroes and icons. :biggrin:

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BTW great analogy by another "Nomad" member looking at the behavior of heterosexuals............

Where does it say they were hets?
Silly, A-Rab trouble maker assumption for the sake of stirring the pot. I'd hate to see here a list of the perversions you would involve yourself with for beads.
Get your facts together before you come after me.

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JoeJustJoe - 11-14-2013 at 02:37 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

I really like how you and your ilk Dennis try to turn things around and claim you're a victim to gays who are trying to shove their lifestyle down your throat.

But like I said earlier older people especially ultra conservatives are set in their ways and their beliefs. Nobody can change those long held views. The younger generations by and large don't hold intolerant positions against gay people, and same sex marriage will be recognized in the majority of US states, and eventually will be federally recognized like regular marriage between a man and a woman. And all the old dinosaurs who hold intolerant views towards gays will die off and become pretty much extinct.

wessongroup - 11-14-2013 at 02:51 PM

"But like I said earlier" ... :lol:

Barry A. - 11-14-2013 at 02:57 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

Huh???? None of what you say has anything to do with the points being made by Dennis, et al. (Why am I not surprised?) Try concentrating on what is said, for once------I know it's hard, but you really should work on this as your statements are so nutty and off-point, and damage what little credibility you may have. I had some hope for you after some of your salient points on Investing and Economics, but then you do this???? Just Crazy!!!! and so self-destructive!!! it seems to me.

Barry

Skeet/Loreto - 11-14-2013 at 03:31 PM

I have had only One Gay approach me in an Offensive Manner.

Many years ago I was Hitch Hiking from La to Bishop. As we were coming into Mojave the guy reached over and grabbed my Leg. I removed his Hand and at the next stop Light got out and Thanked him for the Ride.

At the present time I have a couple of good Friends, theL\Male woman"\ Owns a large Ranch in the Panhandle and works as a Firman in amarillo, Her Partner is a 3nd Grade Teacher at a School.

When I was working in SF I observed the Dykes on Bikes Parade several times.

The only thing I do not like is the Exibition of SEX in Public and some of the Gay Groups that attack the Various Churches.

But we live in a Free Country!!!

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 04:01 PM

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But we live in a Free Country!!!

Well said, Sr. Skeeter.. Nice to see you've come out of your coma. :lol:

Pompano Siting

Gypsy Jan - 11-14-2013 at 04:19 PM

He's doing his own thing.

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Me age 3... this explains a lot.

JoeJustJoe - 11-14-2013 at 04:19 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

So what are you views on the subject Barry? Don't be hiding behind Dennis, Barry.

wessongroup - 11-14-2013 at 04:34 PM

Trying for hits are we ... . :lol:

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 04:39 PM

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So what are you views on the subject Barry? Don't be hiding behind Dennis, Barry.

Barry has a mind [a good mind at that] of his own , Joe. Respect him for that.
He respects you for your opinions, as do I, so quit trying to cause trouble.

Lee - 11-14-2013 at 04:39 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

So what are you views on the subject Barry? Don't be hiding behind Dennis, Barry.

I don't have a dog in this fight and I'm not a betting man, but, if I were, I'd say that Joe has Barry and Dennis' numbers. You guys are Tea Partiers, aren't ya?

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 04:43 PM

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I really like how you and your ilk, Dennis

Here ya go, Joe. Something to play with instead of your camels testicles.

What the eff is "my ilk?'

elgatoloco - 11-14-2013 at 04:44 PM

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....... their in-your-face antics which I find deplorable and offensive!!! similar to how I feel about Skin-head-Natzies and KKK folks and Black Panthers who also shove things in other peoples faces.

Barry

Agreed. You forgot to add jesus freaks to your list. :saint:

Last Saturday I attended a wedding of two friends, Tara & Michelle, who have been partners for 27 years. Now they are officially married just like me! The ceremony and reception were fabulous and I did not witness ANY untoward sexual behavior.

greengoes - 11-14-2013 at 04:47 PM

Heads will roll.....someone left the door unlocked and a few inmates and Cats got out.

Don't Panic - Stay Calm and do not try to apprehend them. Just call Security with your sighting.

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 04:49 PM

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I don't have a dog in this fight and I'm not a betting man, but, if I were, I'd say that Joe has Barry and Dennis' numbers. You guys are Tea Partiers, aren't ya?

I'm a Beer Partier.

What does this have to do with the morality of public, sexual exhibitionism?

Are you, Lee, in cahoots with Joe in your efforts to sidetrack our original point?
I'm effing shocked and stunned.

JoeJustJoe - 11-14-2013 at 04:52 PM

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I really like how you and your ilk, Dennis

Here ya go, Joe. Something to play with instead of your camels testicles.

What the eff is "my ilk?'

Dennis let Barry speak for himself.

And now who is the one who is trying to start trouble around here now?

I told you before Dennis you're not the moral arbitrator on "Baja Nomad," and your ultra conservative viewpoints, and I'm putting it nicely are now in the minority in this country, especially about same-sex couples, and gay civil rights.

[Edited on 11-14-2013 by JoeJustJoe]

wessongroup - 11-14-2013 at 04:52 PM

Just wait, it will get better ...

BajaBlanca - 11-14-2013 at 04:54 PM

the original question Are gays more tolerated here seems to be YES. At least here in La Bocana, BCS, I see them as an integral part of our village.

I am going to ask one of them his opinion on this.

BajaBlanca - 11-14-2013 at 04:56 PM

On a sidenote: my adopted son is gay and only came out at 27. I knew he was gay even when he was little (age 2). He could no more change his propensity than I could change my height or eye color.

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 05:06 PM

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What??? They didn't invite you on the honeymoon?

Your friend's behavior seems properly subdued, by all means.
When's the last "het" wedding you went to when the bride and groom humped each other at the foot of the altar?
We...all that are civilized by my standards....are the same.

Congrats to your friends. May they name their first child "Matt."

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 05:15 PM

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I told you before Dennis you're not the moral arbitrator on "Baja Nomad," and your ultra conservative viewpoints, and I'm putting it nicely are now in the minority in this country, especially about same-sex couples, and gay civil rights.

You don't get it, you stooopid effing mowron.
I don't have anything against gays. Only the egregious, public behavior of some.
I'm effing tired of saying it.

If I return to this thread...it will be anti-gay. I mean ANTI-GAY. Blanket attack. You won't like it, and I'm telling you now, Joe.....I will ignore you like a homo on his knees.

I've had it with this bullsheit.

elgatoloco - 11-14-2013 at 05:17 PM

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When's the last "het" wedding you went to when the bride and groom humped each other at the foot of the altar?

Besides mine? None. :saint:

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 05:50 PM

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When's the last "het" wedding you went to when the bride and groom humped each other at the foot of the altar?

Besides mine? None. :saint:

Sorry me and FOX NEWS missed that. Will you be renewing your vows any time soon? :biggrin:

Barry A. - 11-14-2013 at 06:11 PM

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What a classic homophobic post using the most negative things said about gay people and what they do in pubic,

You really got it together, Joe. :lol:

So what are you views on the subject Barry? Don't be hiding behind Dennis, Barry.

JoJo---------if you had read the thread, you would know.

And, somebody else asked if I was a "Tea Partier"-----just what IS a "tea partier"??? I am a Conservative, I vote Republican, and I try to listen to everybody, hard as that is sometimes---------if that makes me a "tea partier" then so be it, and I am proud of it.. (I guess, but I really don't know if I meet the criteria) :lol:

Barry

PS thanks Dennis for the kind words.

dasubergeek - 11-14-2013 at 06:20 PM

Here's the problem, Dennis: guy comes home from a long business trip abroad, his wife meets him at the airport. "Oh, honey, I'm so glad you're home!" They share a kiss. Awwwww.

Now pretend it's two men. OH NO GAY IN PUBLIC.

Do you see the double standard yet?

As I said before—and surely I can't be the only 'out' person on these boards—I'd settle for being ignored in a situation like the second one. You don't have the right not to be offended, sorry to say... if that were the case, I can think of about twenty million bleeding-heart liberals who'd be vindicated at every mention of a politically incorrect word.

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 06:44 PM

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Here's the problem, Dennis: guy comes home from a long business trip abroad, his wife meets him at the airport. "Oh, honey, I'm so glad you're home!" They share a kiss. Awwwww.

Now pretend it's two men. OH NO GAY IN PUBLIC.

Do you see the double standard yet?

No. None. Is that representative of activities at a gay pride parade?
Do YOU see the double standard yet???

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As I said before—and surely I can't be the only 'out' person on these boards

Until this moment, you're one of the three I'm aware of, but the first who's going on the defensive.

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—I'd settle for being ignored in a situation like the second one. You don't have the right not to be offended, sorry to say...

I have no idea what you mean by that. If you can explain and clarify, that may help our discussion...if that's what you want and we're going to have.

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if that were the case, I can think of about twenty million bleeding-heart liberals who'd be vindicated at every mention of a politically incorrect word.

Again...I'm lost from your meaning here. I'm beginning to believe you are as well.
Too bad.. I was hoping for an insightful gay person who might add to our discussion and insight, but at this point in the mayhem, which this tunnel-vision thread has evolved to, it seems to be a wasted discussion.

Cisco - 11-14-2013 at 07:39 PM

Polyamory and homosexuality.

Great article. I thought too long to post so here is the site:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/10/16/is_polyamory_a...

Being very involved with the polyamory community and having both a gay and a straight son the information in this article I find very well founded and written.

"What matters is that people love each other, treat each other with respect, and live happy, productive lives."

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 07:50 PM

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Until this moment, you're one of the three I'm aware of, but the first who's going on the defensive.

Dasubergeek (sp?) is not going on the defensive. He is presenting his tolerance and understanding.

Hmmmmmmm :light:

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 08:24 PM

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Until this moment, you're one of the three I'm aware of, but the first who's going on the defensive.

Dasubergeek (sp?) is not going on the defensive. He is presenting his tolerance and understanding.

Hmmmmmmm :light:

What he/she presented was mostly indecipherable for me.
Anyway, defensive....tolerance....same thing in this particular case, if that's the way you want it. Who the fak cares anymore.
You, and most other frauds here, have a NIMBY private attitude toward gays and you are the one's apprehensive gays have to look out for....not those who lay their true feelings on the table.

"It isn't the man who comes out and says he doesn't like you that you need to watch out for....it's the man who says he's your friend."

I think I heard something like that somewhere, but it came to mind like it's mine......and here, mine alone.

LancairDriver - 11-14-2013 at 08:47 PM

So far the contest to determine who is the most caring, compassionate, and politically correct, is close. Can't someone come through with a tie breaker? :lol:

Bajaboy - 11-14-2013 at 08:56 PM

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Finally, despite the currently accepted numbers, there are some well researched scientific studies that claim that within the human populace, homosexuality both patent and latent, approaches 25% of the population.

Show one!!!! Just effing one!!!

By your baloney numbers I have to assume 25% of the population has removed themselves from the pool of humans that are biologically concerned with propagation of the human species.
What indigestible, baloney crap.

I don't believe homosexuals are born as such. I believe everybody is a product of their environment.
Gays......straights...homos...queers.... dykes...cal'em what you will...are all formed from day one of their life on earth. There is no queer gene, and we arn't brainless ducks.
There is however a propensity for the species to be straight and biologically interested in reproduction.

Add to this IMHO, they have no "rights" to marry and receive equal fiscal "rights" in our society.
Rights are clearly stated in our Constitution, and marriage isn't mentioned for anybody...gay...straight....or any other weird reasons.

Why do you have to fan the flames of this sht, Howard?

Ignor-anus :lol:

I'm curious how we went from Rupaul to sex filled, gay parades....seems like a stretch to me.
Dennis you seem to be quite the expert on this topic...at least in your opinion. I'm still thinking a few sessions with your shrink will bring out some revelations :light:

bajadogs - 11-14-2013 at 09:09 PM

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Me age 3... this explains a lot.

Ew!! What's worse? Homosexuality or incest?!?!?

Great to have you back Pomp!

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 09:22 PM

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Ignor-anus :lol:

After forty years, nothing yet. Still working on it.

In the meantime, perhaps we should inform your local PTA about your obsessive quest for alternative understanding.

Waddayathink? You wanna callem? If you don't, give me their phone number and Ill take care of it for you while you ponder that "ignor-anus" comment..

Bajaboy - 11-14-2013 at 09:32 PM

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Ignor-anus :lol:

Feel free to make the call....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ignoranus

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 09:34 PM

In the morning.
Tighten your belt.

JoeJustJoe - 11-14-2013 at 09:56 PM

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So what are you views on the subject Barry? Don't be hiding behind Dennis, Barry.

Barry

PS thanks Dennis for the kind words.

What a cop out Barry, especially when you're taking shots at me.

Here is what I think. I think many ultra conservatives harbor these homophobic thoughts towards gays, but since we are living in modern times, and many people are generally more tolerant. It's no longer cool to show hateful homophobic feelings towards gay people, just like it's no longer political correct to use the "N" word against blacks, although racism towards blacks is still quite active in this nation, and the racist remarks are more hidden. The same thing with Mexican immigration in this country. It's not PC to say even among conservatives that I hate Mexican immigrants, and so you'll hear, " it's not immigrants that I hate, it's only the illegal Mexican immigrants that I hate, and they will go on with the most vile hateful remarks against undocumented Mexicans, But when you call these people on their bigotry, they say, "who me, no I'm not a bigot, it's only the illegal Mexican immigrant I hate. I'm not a racist!"

You just know these types will freak out if any Mexican moved in next door to them papers or not. Well I think the same thing is going on with with thread about gays, a certain kind of homophobic person will act like a victim , and say it's the gays that are shoving down their lifestyle down my throat and I'm not going to take it. It's almost laughable to hear these types claim they harbor no homophobic views when they seem to live to bash gays directly, indirectly and claim they are the actual victim here against gay radicals.

Bajaboy - 11-14-2013 at 10:15 PM

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In the morning.
Tighten your belt.

you big bad bully....

....it's a bit flattering

bajaemma - 11-14-2013 at 10:15 PM

remember the Roman Empire?

EnsenadaDr - 11-14-2013 at 10:23 PM

People are people, you can't stereotype them. I had a very dear older male gay friend. I have also had some good friends who were totally heterosexual. I have had friends of color who were better friends than friends my own race. Just because a person is "gay" I think it is ridiculous to lump them into one category and generalize about them. Anyone who lumps people in a category without looking at them individually, has not fully matured socially. Joe, let them be. If they want to take such a one dimensional view of the world, that's their prerogative.

DENNIS - 11-14-2013 at 10:28 PM

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just like it's no longer political correct to use the "N" word against blacks, although racism towards blacks is still quite active in this nation,

Gee whiz, Joe...If you can't call a Black guy a "Nerd," what can you call him? We need something since you can't pronounce most of their made up names...Shinola....Shlippidydoo....Shlamabama.......can't keep up with all of them.

Maybe you and Bajablueboy can couple up and give us the new, secret code.

Another thing you should know by now...there is no more racism against Blacks. They are definitely the fastest men on earth. That Hussein Bolt runs as fast as a bullet. I wonder if that's how he trained......running faster than a bullet?

EnsenadaDr - 11-14-2013 at 10:40 PM

Do you know what Bolt ate to win the Gold Medals in the Olympics Dennis? He hated Chinese food (the Beijing Summer Olympics) so he ate 100 McNuggets from McDonalds a day at 47 calories a pop, washed down with his favorite beverage, he had almost 6000 calories a day. The key to success, chatarra from McDonald's!!

wessongroup - 11-14-2013 at 10:51 PM

Gee this is fun ... its just like the "other side" ... :lol:

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 11:30 PM

The fabric of the Old White Guys Club is wearing thin....and is quite transparent.

redhilltown - 11-14-2013 at 11:35 PM

Not only wearing thin Moto, but a bit FABULOUS!

motoged - 11-14-2013 at 11:47 PM

A few days ago I saw the movie, Bad Grandpa.....and laughed more than I have in a long time.

The guy is outrageous in some of his "skits", as he says and does so many "inappropriate" things (some are certainly "politically incorrect") that we realize are inappropriate....but are so damn funny.

He survives many situations that one might think would lead to fisticuffs....but the tolerance of folks is impressive.

The movie turns as it goes on and brought a tear or two to my eye near its ending as it had a point to the story.

If you can, go see it.

Some Old White Guys can pi$$ some people off, for sure.....

The guy in the movie was poking fun and pushing the limits....but people's tolerance won out in the end....and the Old White Guy's heart opened up.

Skeet/Loreto - 11-15-2013 at 12:26 PM

I think that a Gay person has a Gay Gene.

There are differeant Gens in all People. What makes a person White?

What makes a Person Black?

What makes a Peron Asian?

If you look at thebehavior of Anumals you see the same actions.

We are all Incividuals!

Of Course various Groups try to put down People that they do not Like. Part of Human Nature??

As far as I am concerned I do not care or Judge a Person on His or Her Sexual Oreintation.

Skeet--An Ole White Gezzer"

motoged - 11-15-2013 at 12:34 PM

Skeet,

Damn....every once in a while you come out with some good ol' fashioned common sense .... Those of us in the Old White Guy Club have to move over a bit to make room for guy next to us on the bench.

Thanks for making some room :saint:

Lee - 11-15-2013 at 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I think that a Gay person has a Gay Gene.

There are differeant Gens in all People. What makes a person White?

What makes a Person Black?

What makes a Peron Asian?

If you look at thebehavior of Anumals you see the same actions.

We are all Incividuals!

Of Course various Groups try to put down People that they do not Like. Part of Human Nature??

As far as I am concerned I do not care or Judge a Person on His or Her Sexual Oreintation.

Skeet--An Ole White Gezzer"

All in on this one. Thanks Skeet.

bajabuddha - 11-15-2013 at 03:27 PM

I learned in The Nam we all bleed red, and my O+ is universal donor. Other than that, a person is a person, and proves to me whether to trust, love and respect them, regardless of ANY gender/color bias.

BajaRat - 11-16-2013 at 09:34 AM

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WOW !

Day maker, Thanks Skeet :bounce:

DianaT - 11-16-2013 at 09:52 AM

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WOW !

Day maker, Thanks Skeet :bounce:

Yes, I can't believe that I actually agree with the gist of something that Skeet is saying! Happy days! :bounce:

EnsenadaDr - 11-16-2013 at 09:53 AM

There are many effeminate characteristics that are caused genetically that affect the sex Chromosomes, Klinefelter's for one, in which a male has an extra X chromosome, and Turner's for another. Klinefelter's can cause breast development in a male, widened hips, and infertility due to lack of sperm production or very little sperm production. Turner's has one X chromosome missing or totally absent in the female, which can cause absent ovaries, webbed neck, short stature. The production of testosterone in the body is another genetically determined factor, and less testosterone may give way to female tendencies. I agree, that some if not all of sexual preference can be due to heredity.

BajaRat - 11-16-2013 at 09:58 AM

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just like it's no longer political correct to use the "N" word against blacks, although racism towards blacks is still quite active in this nation,

Well............... Where can one start......
1# No tolerance at Dennis's house, well maybe in private
2# Racism is alive and well, OMG D look what you just posted
3# I think thou doest protest to much to be innocent of what thou claim to detest :?:

4# Smile, somewhere out there people don't give a rats a$$ about what you think anyways :cool:

5# Love love love :tumble:

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 10:10 AM

I thank Skeet again....who woulda thunk, eh ?! :light:

Now, on to the next "poll"... :saint:

DENNIS - 11-16-2013 at 10:18 AM

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4# Smile, somewhere out there people don't give a rats a$$ about what you think anyways :cool:

And, how would you even begin to know that? :?:

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 10:20 AM

Just go away....

DENNIS - 11-16-2013 at 10:22 AM

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There are many effeminate characteristics that are caused genetically that affect the sex Chromosomes, Klinefelter's for one, in which a male has an extra X chromosome, and Turner's for another. Klinefelter's can cause breast development in a male, widened hips, and infertility due to lack of sperm production or very little sperm production. Turner's has one X chromosome missing or totally absent in the female, which can cause absent ovaries, webbed neck, short stature. The production of testosterone in the body is another genetically determined factor, and less testosterone may give way to female tendencies. I agree, that some if not all of sexual preference can be due to heredity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite

DENNIS - 11-16-2013 at 10:23 AM

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Just go away....

No. I won't be doing anything like that.

BajaRat - 11-16-2013 at 10:39 AM

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4# Smile, somewhere out there people don't give a rats a$$ about what you think anyways :cool:

And, how would you even begin to know that? :?:

Dennis, I enjoy reading many of your wild and crazy posts but when they turn Racist, Misogynistic or take on a Bigot stance, well that's when I don't give rats a$$ and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Still love you, we'll just save the hugging part :cool:

wessongroup - 11-16-2013 at 10:41 AM

Well good to see "tolerance" still exists .... for _______ :biggrin:

Skeet/Loreto - 11-16-2013 at 11:10 AM

Mogoat:

An Example of Tolerance::

Living in Sequim Was. for awhile I would go in to Canada to go fishing. Sometimes would be in a Group of Canadians.
It seemed in all contacts with the Canadaians it only took about 30 minutes before they were Bad-mouthing and running down Americans.

I had to be very Tolerant as the Fishing was Fantastic.

Ole Gezzer

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 11:20 AM

"Mogoat".... Skeet, I kinda like that :biggrin:

I just might change my posting signature.

Yes, we Canucks take shots at our southern neighbours at times....sometimes with a grin and sometimes with less tolerance.

I am less tolerant of some human traits than others....and try not to generalize by nationality or ethnicity. As an imperfect being, I try to be tolerant with those more imperfect than me ... :biggrin:

Glad the fishing was good (salt or freshwater?)

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Mogoat:

An Example of Tolerance::

Living in Sequim Was. for awhile I would go in to Canada to go fishing. Sometimes would be in a Group of Canadians.
It seemed in all contacts with the Canadaians it only took about 30 minutes before they were Bad-mouthing and running down Americans.

I had to be very Tolerant as the Fishing was Fantastic.

Ole Gezzer

Skeet/Loreto - 11-16-2013 at 11:20 AM

Motgeo:

Another Example:

In my travels and Experiences I have to be very Tolerant when some Folks always weem to be running down the Southern States and making Wild statements about Racism.
Most of their statements are not True, they seem to believe all the False statements made by People who have never lived here.

My last and most important Intorlance is People who have the Ability to make their Life better but fail to put out the Effort to do So!.

DENNIS - 11-16-2013 at 11:24 AM

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Dennis, I enjoy reading many of your wild and crazy posts but when they turn Racist, Misogynistic or take on a Bigot stance,

Don't just say it...show it. Your factless accusations only serve to pile you up with the other disfunctionals here who see "understanding and acceptance" as being stone silent and are afraid to discuss a subject less they get labeled as social felons who are full of hatred....as you have done with me.

Another thing....if I were gay, and whether or not I am is no one's business but my own, I would be telling all you ultra-understanding A-Holes to shove it. Where, in the name of gawd, does it say you, Ged or any other self-righteous jerk here is in a position to "TOLERATE" me, or anyone else? It's like, "Gee....thanks for your permission to be myself."
SCREW YOU.

And I'm a racist? Why TF am I a racist? Because I said some Black parents make up names for their kids?
Well...they do. Have you listened to an NFL game lately? Wake TF up.
You guys may not warrant the term "Racist", but you are holier-than-thou and arrogant. Far worse than any racist on earth.

The "Misogynistic" part is just knee-jerk mudslinging Boolsheit. I won't even ask why it's there.

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 11:40 AM

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Mogoat:...I had to be very Tolerant as the Fishing was Fantastic.
Ole Gezzer

Skeet,

Ahhh, the price of admission.... :saint:

What kind of fishing do you get to do these days?
I have yet to fish in Baja. While not interested in going for billfish and that sort of thing, I would like sometime to go out and try to catch something to eat, or just throw back into the chuck.

Years ago in Oaxaca state (Puerto Angel) I was invited to go out in a fisherman's panga with a gentleman and his son at 6:00 A.M. I spoke very little Spanish, sat in the front of the panga for several hours while they trolled for whatever (caught some kind of tuna about 15-24" long on a simple uncolored wood plug w/ hook....maybe some bait?).

I felt honoured to have been invited the day before simply by sitting on the pier and showing an interest in their work....

I watched the sun rise over the ocean, saw rays jumping/flying in the distance, saw turtles, and felt the kindness of the fisherman's invitation.

He was tolerant of this young gringo who couldn't speak the language....but opened up an experience for me I will never forget.

I was tolerant of the swells and didn't get seasick ...as I have been sailing off Vancouver Island in a 30' double-ender that had been built by a Canadian fisherman of Japanese descent (and whose boat was confiscated during WWII).

So many things to encounter in life that requires one form of tolerance ....or not.....as I realize that intolerance is on the continuum of tolerance.

"Mogoat" .....I still like that better than "Motgeo" :saint:

DavidE - 11-16-2013 at 11:45 AM

Nice here, hunkering down with all those bullets and daggers flying over my head. In the end, boiled down, all these thousands of words won't change a damned thing. Everyone will pop out the end still convinced "their way is the right way".

Where's the damned image of the 2 bull elk rutting when I need it.

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 11:56 AM

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Where's the damned image of the 2 bull elk rutting when I need it.

Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8rIpm93JOs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDkDd_Dhf-w

motoged - 11-16-2013 at 12:10 PM

Dennis,
You now seems to be defending your position by name-calling and swearing....such a deterioration of intellect....

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Barry A. - 11-16-2013 at 12:20 PM

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Dennis,
You now seems to be defending your position by name-calling and swearing....such a deterioration of intellect....

[Edited on 11-16-2013 by motoged]

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Now THAT is funny!!!! :lol:

In probable frustration, Dennis uses Liberal-tactics and the Libs are horror-struck, and lash out!!! :lol:

Barry

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