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Mula - 11-19-2012 at 12:06 PM

Hello,

Can who ever talked to Grandma before - please give her a call and see what she knows or thinks is happening with this family?

motoged - 11-19-2012 at 02:06 PM

McFez,

It is encouraging to see that some Nomads still have blood in their veins....so many posters here are quite insensitive to the human condition and seem to only perceive it as anyone outside the 1% is a bum.

Interesting that the Hell's Angels also consider themselves to be 1%ers....but for a different reason.....or maybe not :light:

BajaNomad - 11-19-2012 at 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Mula
Way back when - at the beginning of this thread, someone was talking to Grandma in the states by phone.

Maybe they could check in with her again and see is she has any idea where they are. . . .

My last post on this thread was immediately after I spoke with her last on the phone.

fyi.

(on edit) Further elaboration to answer the question posed.... she has no idea where they are.

[Edited on 11-19-2012 by BajaNomad]

Islandbuilder - 11-19-2012 at 09:36 PM

Thank you Mula and BajaNomad.
It is very concerning that they disappeared and that even Grandma hasn't heard from them.
Is anybody on this board a participant in any of the cruisers Sideband networks? That might be the best, next place to check.
I'll go back to the early days of this tread and see if there's any identifying info for the boat, other than a battered plywood tri.

marina de la paz

captkw - 11-19-2012 at 09:50 PM

...011-52-612-122-1646 or www.marinadelapaz.com.............explain the situation and they will run it on the morning net..THIS would not usally be on a SSB net......Hey,,comitan..got a VHF ?? Boat folks usally take care of biz...OR get shipwrecked or die !! its a simple world out there on the water !! YA THINK !! no room for mistakes.............K&T

Islandbuilder - 11-19-2012 at 10:12 PM

Yeah Cap, when they're close enought they use the VHF, but the SSB nets would have more reach. The Haha just went through that area, and they use a VHF net to stay in touch with the participating boats.
To recap: A 30' Searunner Ketch, Califfornia registration CF 7048 FH
2-adults and 3-kids.
Last contact was mid-October when they were reported to be afloat and anchored south of Punta Cono.
The grandmother hasn't heard from her daughter or grandkids since before the last reported sighting, which was before hurricane Paul went through that area.
That sound right?
I have been corresponding with the good people at marina de La Paz on another matter, and once i know that I have the information correct I'll forward it on to the Shroyers to put on the net.
Thanks

degoma - 11-20-2012 at 12:02 AM

We received our first Facebook post from Lea this evening and were relieved even though it was very brief: “We are very much okay. I can't stay long as I am on borrowed time. Thank you very much for all your help. Hope to see you again”. We called Bridget (the grandmother) and she was relieved to know they are alive. She wonders, if anyone were to visit the area could they please take some pictures of the kids and talk with them. She asked that we post her contact information: Bridget Fields 619-734-5092 biblestudyforu2@yahoo.com P.O. Box 1907 Blythe, CA 92226 Also, please, if anyone sees Lea, pass this contact information along as some of it has changed recently.

We look forward to hearing a location post….great idea about the fly-over Lancair Driver! The last report I received (third hand) was on November 1st…still anchored in the bay at Pta. Cono.

Islandbuilder, the boat is a Piver 35’ Trimaran CF 7048 FA (not FH)

desertcpl - 11-20-2012 at 09:45 AM

well at least this is good news,, good going guys

mtgoat666 - 11-20-2012 at 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by degoma
We received our first Facebook post from Lea this evening and were relieved even though it was very brief: “We are very much okay. I can't stay long as I am on borrowed time. Thank you very much for all your help. Hope to see you again”.

"borrowed time?" that's an odd expression, and not a reassuring expression,...

islandbuider

captkw - 11-20-2012 at 10:29 AM

mary and mac are awesome folks..and the NET is very capabl;e..when info gets run on the vhf net it will get transferred by someone like EBMIKE or SHASAAM to the SSB nets if they feel its needed !! K&T

pappy - 11-21-2012 at 08:46 AM

at least we know one of this is ok-sort of. (borrowed time???) guessing they meant limited time to use the net.

Hook - 11-21-2012 at 08:55 AM

What kind of repair is it that is taking this long? If they can get provisioned for food, then whatever part(s) they might need should have shown up long ago. What have they been there for, four months now?

It feels like someone in that group doesnt want to be rescued................

woody with a view - 11-21-2012 at 09:51 AM

if they are anchored in the bay that soumds like they could make it to Rosalillita where life would be easier and repairs and provisions much easier.

sounds like they are happy where they are.

Islandbuilder - 11-21-2012 at 11:40 AM

I think that in light of recent contact (Nov.1) from Lea to her mom, that they are still anchored at Cono (pretty good job of anchoring to get through Paul!) it's OK to let them be.

I agree with Hook, Woody and SP, that they could get to Rosalillita if they wanted to, I imagine that the local fishermen would tow them there just to get them out of the bay. For whatever reason they are choosing to stay where they are. If Lea wanted to get out, she's had numerous opportunities.

I would suggest that in future contacts with Lea, someone offer her a ride, right now, today with the kids and their stuff to San Diego where she can meet up with her mom. Simple. Clean. Minimum drama.

woody with a view - 11-21-2012 at 11:43 AM

just think, they could be the first guests to use the marina a Rosalillita! maybe a mariachi band with fireworks and more!!! every 12 hours the tide drains and they could do repairs right there on the sand, then refloat her to see if the patch is seaworthy! :biggrin:

Islandbuilder - 11-21-2012 at 01:07 PM

I doubt they could get inside the breakwater before they grounded. Perhaps on the full-moon high?

pappy - 11-21-2012 at 01:51 PM

oh woody-the horror! they pull into rosa as the "first" guests, therefore, proving it is viable and then become the pinups for the resurrection of the ladder...aggghhhhh....

degoma - 12-5-2012 at 05:31 PM

A friend of mine just returned from the area of Pta. Cono. He knows the fisherman over there and about the boat. I asked him to please try to find out what's up. I post this report as it came to me but have removed names. Here's the report:

Just returned from the Pacific and had a long talk with fisherman. The boat people left about three weeks ago. They stayed at Santa Rosaalita for about 3 weeks, used peoples lap tops and were well taken care of. They left abruptly without thanking the fisherman who helped them so much by taking water, food, fruit, lobster etc. almost daily at Pta. Cono. They headed south and the boat was still leaking due to another crash. The woman(Lea) had been beaten again but refused to leave him. The fisherman grape vine is tracking them down the coast. It is suspected they are near or at Tortuga.

[Edited on 12-6-2012 by degoma]

motoged - 12-5-2012 at 07:31 PM

If they make it to Asuncion, we will have very good eyes on this situation. It would be a good port for them in this storm....I believe there are a few angels of mercy living there.

Spousal violence dynamics often lead a victim to fear for their life at times, and not just their temporary sense of security (as the primary abuser may make explicit death threats to the other adult and/or regarding the children).

While the mother may appear to have some degree of responsibility to protect her children, she won't be able to if she cannot even protect herself. The worst part of being a victim is thinking like a victim.

If they are borrowing computer time, i wonder if they are following this thread?

:?:

wonder if they are following this thread !!

captkw - 12-5-2012 at 07:43 PM

Hola,,darn good question but no matter !! they seem to be "working" (used loosey) their way south..way behind the fleet....once and thats a IF... they get into the cruisers things will change.and Fast....cruisers may seem laid back and carefree..buts thats only because we take care of biz first..then we relax....I dont know the answer or the whole story but in my small mind something smells fishy and it's not dirty decks... hoping for the best !!.....K&T

shari - 12-5-2012 at 08:23 PM

there is internet in Tortugas and lots of cruisers so if they are there, we will know soon enough through the cruiser kelpvine.

Skipjack Joe - 12-6-2012 at 12:46 AM

Removing my post to help matters ....

[Edited on 12-7-2012 by Skipjack Joe]

motoged - 12-6-2012 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
.... My guess is that this was his dream from the start and that she agreed to go along. ...

Skip,
Thanks for your theory :light:

....but the evidence is that this guy was abusive before the trip started (domestic violence issues in California).

It's not quite that he is "having a bad day" :?:

As others have said....for some people, "this is as good as it gets"

pappy - 12-6-2012 at 12:00 PM

thanks for the update. not liking how this is going at all. the guy needs to be removed from her and the kids and locked up. probably why he set sail in the first place.

Mula - 12-6-2012 at 01:26 PM

Does anyone know exactly where this family is - now - today?

They can not be in Mexican waters legally.

There must be some office that would be able to handle this situation - for the sake of the kids.

The wife must be as nuts as the father, but the kids don't deserve this.

What can we do to help or resolve this situation?

bajaguy - 12-6-2012 at 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mula
Does anyone know exactly where this family is - now - today?

They can not be in Mexican waters legally.

There must be some office that would be able to handle this situation - for the sake of the kids.

The wife must be as nuts as the father, but the kids don't deserve this.

What can we do to help or resolve this situation?

Our best course of action is to locate the boat and the kids.

As soon as their location is known, someone needs to contact the grandmother and inform her of the location and have her get in contact with the US Consulate/Mexican authorities (customs, immigration, DIF). Didn't someone post (originally) that there were possibly warrants out for the "father"???

Let the proper authorities make the determination as to the disposition.

[Edited on 12-6-2012 by bajaguy]

DianaT - 12-6-2012 at 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Mula

The wife must be as nuts as the father, but the kids don't deserve this.

IF she is the victim of spousal abuse, she may be acting in a rather predictable way out of fear. She will not turn on her husband if she fears for herself and for her children. She is apt to defend him as it is not uncommon for the victims to blame themselves. But crazy or abused, it all sounds out of whack.

I would have liked to believe they were just off for a family adventure that would be a great experience for the kids, but it is sounding less and less like that is the case. I hope someone down there will call the authorities --- not sure which ones would be the correct ones to involve.

[Edited on 12-6-2012 by DianaT]

pacific ocean 11

captkw - 12-6-2012 at 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mula

They can not be in Mexican waters legally.

Hola,the first check in is cabo...there is talk about some day making boats ck/in at Ensanada...so they are legal as of yet!! all the Ha Ha fleet is around the curve..(past cabo) so besides local pangas not many boats will see them if any at all...This is past being "A 3 Hr Tour!!"...only suggestion would be avise the us consulate and he can avise the mex navy!! San carlos has a base !! ......K&T :cool:

[Edited on 12-6-2012 by captkw]

[Edited on 12-7-2012 by BajaNomad]

shari - 12-6-2012 at 06:00 PM

a trimaran with no name tried to sail away this morning but due to light winds the boat was sailing close to Los Chorros where Juan noticed and alerted me. I tried hailing them on the radio but no one answered.

The man managed to anchor and he is watching Juan (who is on the beach) through the binoculars. Juan did see 2 kids come topside which is good as the other boat anchored in the bay only reported seeing a single man sailing today.

So I imagine this is the boat in question. The winds are supposed to be very light the next couple days so they may have trouble sailing out of here and missing the rocks at Abreojos...they need to go offshore a ways.

There is someone calling the Armada de Mexico to investigate to see if they are OK. It appears they were boarded by the navy frigate this morning too.

We will keep you posted. We are trying to contact the mom as well to keep her in the loop....

[Edited on 12-7-2012 by shari]

Ateo - 12-6-2012 at 06:07 PM

As always, good work Shari.

dtbushpilot - 12-6-2012 at 06:15 PM

Thanks Shari

shari - 12-6-2012 at 06:26 PM

If they are still here tomorrow morning, maybe Juan can swing by and see if they need anything like water or food or a taxi?

Mula - 12-6-2012 at 06:35 PM

If I can do anything from Lopez - still a long way south, Shari, let me know. I'm happy to help how ever - even if only financially to help get the kids north.

U2U me if necessary.

Hook - 12-6-2012 at 07:45 PM

This is unbelievable!!! Where do they think they're going???

Aren't heavy fogs rather possible this time of year down by Mag Bay, Almejas, etc.? It's a transitional season.

cool!! a update!!

captkw - 12-6-2012 at 08:21 PM

Thanks Shari again...and Hook you very correct about the fog around mag bay this time of year !! split pea soup !! and if you dont know the area and "bocas" and running tides one can get into deep doodoo fast.....north of lopez matoas looks good on a chart,,idea,paradise,"lets go there" not the case...and for someone who is not a mariner.OMG.. .the bocas also have bars and eat local panga once in a while....and foggy till 10am or so. Muy perri grosso..glad to hear that they are where they with kids on board....myself have been waiting for good news for a long time...K&T :cool:

[Edited on 12-7-2012 by captkw]

[Edited on 12-7-2012 by captkw]

David K - 12-6-2012 at 08:27 PM

Rescuing the mom and kids now could save their lives. Mexican Navy could do this I hope.

Mateo-Feo - 12-6-2012 at 08:39 PM

Wow, I was there and in such a mood of giving and helping. Now knowing from what I read... I may have done things differently. As far as Lea and the kids anyway. Makes me sad...

shari - 12-6-2012 at 08:41 PM

we just got home from the naval base here in town and tomorrow the frigate will look for the vessel & do an inspection and assess the situation.

And as a back up, Juan will swing by in the early morning before he starts hauling on YT...just to say hi and offer to put the family up so they can spend xmas ashore and have some fun.

I'm sure we can figure out how to get them north if that's what they want to do...stay tuned

AWESOME SHARI !!!!!!!

captkw - 12-6-2012 at 08:49 PM

You Rock...I know a lot of nomads are a wondering on this !!!

Mateo-Feo - 12-6-2012 at 08:51 PM

Awesome Shari. Your are wonderful.

shari - 12-7-2012 at 09:19 AM

buenos dias todos...Juan had a nice visit with Lea, William and the kids this morning and this is what he reported via phone to me....

They say they are just fine, have money and food and are continuing south on their adventure. Yes they had a hard time at Conos because there was no store there so they depended on the fishermen for help.

They are pretty mad at all the conjecture here on this forum and want to be left alone. They said that Lea's mom was making a fuss over nothing.

I certainly understand the concerns everyone has but they seem content to keep sailing and didnt want any assistance.

I would be curious to hear of further sightings of them...maybe in the Mag Bay area....now that we are all along for the ride.

David K - 12-7-2012 at 09:31 AM

Thanks Shari...

If it were just two stupid adults, then fine... but to drag little kids on their suicide voyage, well that's just sad. I hope we are just over-reacting and it really is all okay, and the kids have home-school packets so they learn more than how to sail poorly or beg for food on the beach.

This adventure could have waited until they were adults... unless he is running... ???

Bajaboy - 12-7-2012 at 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Thanks Shari...

If it were just two stupid adults, then fine... but to drag little kids on their suicide voyage, well that's just sad. I hope we are just over-reacting and it really is all okay, and the kids have home-school packets so they learn more than how to sail poorly or beg for food on the beach.

This adventure could have waited until they were adults... unless he is running... ???

Live and let live...you're sounding like a big government proponent now :lol:

They want to be left alone so we should let this fade away....

David K - 12-7-2012 at 09:44 AM

That is surprising coming from a school teacher and a father... really Zac? The next time they crash the boat, it may not be in a popular location, like the seven sisters...

Bajaboy - 12-7-2012 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by David K
That is surprising coming from a school teacher and a father... really Zac? The next time they crash the boat, it may not be in a popular location, like the seven sisters...

Yes really.... :spingrin:

Mula - 12-7-2012 at 10:04 AM

It's pretty damn hard to sit by and watch a trajedy unfold.

Bajaboy - 12-7-2012 at 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mula
It's pretty damn hard to sit by and watch a trajedy unfold.

Are you referring to Syria, Uganda, poverty.... :?:

mcfez - 12-7-2012 at 10:52 AM

Shari .....
If funds are needed to help the kids I'm willing to throw some funds down there if others here do the same. These kids need to get the hell out of this situation..... and back to a social life and proper schooling.

Hook - 12-7-2012 at 11:20 AM

And the floggings will continue, apparently, until the 1st mate's morale improves.

gnukid - 12-7-2012 at 11:59 AM

If people traveling with low resources and a tight budget should be sent home, shouldn't that include all Canadians?

rts551 - 12-7-2012 at 12:10 PM

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Maybe we should all chip in and tell you how to get a job? Let these folks alone unless they are in real danger.

LancairDriver - 12-7-2012 at 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by rts551

Quote:

Maybe we should all chip in and tell you how to get a job? Let these folks alone unless they are in real danger.

Uh Oh- The 47% have started to check in. Lets see who can be the most caring. Get the pay pal account going.

shari - 12-7-2012 at 01:04 PM

be as cynical as you like....but I am proud to be able to help when it's needed and when I am able to....thanks to all of you who have helped out various people on this board when things got tough or they just needed a boost to realize their dreams.

pay it forward

Jack Swords - 12-7-2012 at 01:52 PM

As they work their way down the coast, especially this time of year, they will be in increasing contact with cruisers plying the waters. Once the left turn is made into the Sea of Cortez resources improve as well as their safety. Communications are much better and the cruising community is quite helpful.

Thanks Shari for the update, we'll keep informed here in La Paz.

rts551 - 12-7-2012 at 02:05 PM

There is a fine line between helping and running people's lives. Those who are helping, good on ya...but comments like "two stupid adults", among other suggestions and comments, is not helping.

MMc - 12-7-2012 at 02:09 PM

Sheri, What you do is a good thing. You are a big reason the town is now a destination for Americans and Canadians. You care with action.
Asuncion, was a nice small fishing village for many years that no gringo considered going to, lots of us drove through it on the way to elsewhere. You changed that with all your kindness and helping out.
You do pay it forward. A big THANK YOU!!!!

Mateo-Feo, you were on the beach with them, spent time with them. Go with your gut. Sheri has notified the local navy. It seams that they are on their adventure. This thread has spun into it's own world. We don't know anything about what takes place on that boat. Living aboard a boat will provide much of a eduction for both kid and adult. Let them be. There are 100s of boats moving up and down the coasts everyday, we just decided to pick this one because it ran aground and was posted about. I love to watch these threads spin.

If a person goes to Baja and doesn't post about it on Nomads has he gone. :?:

woody with a view - 12-7-2012 at 02:30 PM

Granny needs to STFU.... Everyone here can place their own version of reality out here and MAYBE one person will get it close to the actual situation. having a good heart is all that's needed. your opinions won't change anyone else's so let them be. if the lady wants to split she'll find a way. until then quit trying to scrutinize her under your perfect world microscopes..... :!:

Mateo-Feo - 12-7-2012 at 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by MMc
Sheri, What you do is a good thing. You are a big reason the town is now a destination for Americans and Canadians. You care with action.
Asuncion, was a nice small fishing village for many years that no gringo considered going to, lots of us drove through it on the way to elsewhere. You changed that with all your kindness and helping out.
You do pay it forward. A big THANK YOU!!!!

Mateo-Feo, you were on the beach with them, spent time with them. Go with your gut. Sheri has notified the local navy. It seams that they are on their adventure. This thread has spun into it's own world. We don't know anything about what takes place on that boat. Living aboard a boat will provide much of a eduction for both kid and adult. Let them be. There are 100s of boats moving up and down the coasts everyday, we just decided to pick this one because it ran aground and was posted about. I love to watch these threads spin.

If a person goes to Baja and doesn't post about it on Nomads has he gone. :?:

Your right, and I did. I think we made the correct decision at the time. Wish I could have done more. At the time, I didn't know what that was. Best wishes to them, positivity is my train of thought now.

piratas

timmurphy - 12-7-2012 at 08:47 PM

bon voyage....may no harm come to anyone.
just don't ever come to cono again...you left your mark.

BajaBlanca - 12-8-2012 at 06:54 AM

boy, I hadn't looked at this thread in a long time. and Shari, so kind of you to be thinking ahead to xmas ....

pappy - 12-8-2012 at 09:01 AM

at this point it's wish them luck,keep an eye on them, but keep space. the more he feels pressured, the more she will be used as a punching bag...

mtgoat666 - 12-10-2012 at 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shari
we just got home from the naval base here in town and tomorrow the frigate will look for the vessel & do an inspection and assess the situation.

And as a back up, Juan will swing by in the early morning before he starts hauling on YT...just to say hi and offer to put the family up so they can spend xmas ashore and have some fun.

I'm sure we can figure out how to get them north if that's what they want to do...stay tuned

so what happened? is the family still living life free? or has govt finished it's "inspection and assessment" and stepped in to dictate how govt will allow them to live?

stayed tuned

mtgoat666 - 12-16-2012 at 12:44 AM

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still in tune!

so it's been a week or 2 since the Navy frigate went out for an inquisition -- what happened???????

BajaNomad - 12-16-2012 at 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
what happened???????

Their journey south continues....

Perhaps they've reached Mag Bay by now?

BajaNomad - 12-20-2012 at 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Tri that was in Canoa and Asuncion is now in front of Abreojos.Been there for a week. don't know what the issue is.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64557

Punta Cono Previously Beached Family

IAMTHATIAM - 1-8-2013 at 03:50 PM

With much love and respect from the previously beached family from Punta Cono....

[Nemo 55] Thank you for showing sincere concern and coming to our defense. I would try to take the time and discuss my all too personal life changing experience with a group of people I do not know and will probably never meet. Because a heart centered few in this group actually care about what happens to others who are in sincere trouble I take the time for you and Baja Nomads for their kindness the short version of this ship wreck story will be given. If you "Nemo 55" have any questions for me personally I would be glad to answer them if they are not too intrusive.

To all of those who have helped me and mine I appreciate it. We are truly grateful. To name some who were all too generous: Steve & Delia ( The Newly Weds) gave everything in their car to help us in our survival efforts. You are beyond awesome in every way. You are the only people I know in my life to give generously and from the heart.You saw our situation and gave everything you could;Food, beverages to the second power,paint for the children, tackle for fishing & fishing pole (Ours were broken),You made a stone oven pizza and shared it with us. The little ones still talk about the pizza and your kindness. Bruce & Gay there are no words for what you have done to help with the boat and the time spent women to women I am grateful. We sure enjoyed those special banana pancakes.

To all who have posted on this thread. I do apologize as I was not present for my own conversations with you. Actually I do not recall having a conversation with most of you excluding the people I met. To all of those who post things about others without getting the facts first are jumping to their own conclusions and it is better kept to yourself. There is a saying that goes...If you don't know what you are saying, it's best not to speak. Or in this case write. I believe it is called slander and I am respectfully requesting you put a sock in it..

My mother was contacted from family members on my husband's side and there was no answer or answering machine available to leave a message. My reasoning to contact my mother was to give her a common curiosity in letting her know I am alive and well. A check in if you wish to call it that. All other matters are none of your concern unless I speak of it and make it so.

There are those who try to nit and pick lies out of a casual meeting. I respectfully request that you Zip-It unless you were actually present.

[woody with a view] Thank you. My mother is concerned. But seems to create a drama instead of actually helping
with much needed supplies. Because of her and the postings made our family went w/o the help we could have received.

We were not warned of any of the advancing storms that we weathered through the night as "true sailors". It appears there are two on this posting that know the meaning of being at sea. The boat was completely sideways at times. We lost one anchor, one life saver and our dingy ripped off. Oh yeah, the children were sleeping through it and are more mature than most brats I have seen in America. We received word shortly thereafter of two other boats that were beached because of the storm that blew through the area.

Our children have been home schooled for three years now & it is registered in California for all those nay Sayers. If the decent people on Baja Nomads want to do good deeds for others that is great but please stop the bickering.

[timmurphy] we said: Mr. Tim I have never met a man more life threatening. To ride by me and my three year old baby on the beach, not more than a foots distance and throw sand into our faces as he passed by. My son was crying and frightened. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED ! You actually sit on this website and discuss child protective services after doing what you did. A- Mazingly shocking. Also, it is a wonderful thing to express yourself through writing though it is always best to be remain in the ball park of being "truthful/fact-full". It appears as though you are not.

Again we wish to say thank you to all those helpful people for all the loving support given. There are too many names to list. We love and thank you and we will never forget what each one of you have done for us. If you see us out there say hello and let us know you are from Baja Nomads. Have Happy Holidays and New Year! ~Namaste

luv2fish - 1-8-2013 at 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IAMTHATIAM
With much love and respect from the previously beached family from Punta Cono....

[Nemo 55] Thank you for showing sincere concern and coming to our defense. I would try to take the time and discuss my all too personal life changing experience with a group of people I do not know and will probably never meet. Because a heart centered few in this group actually care about what happens to others who are in sincere trouble I take the time for you and Baja Nomads for their kindness the short version of this ship wreck story will be given. If you "Nemo 55" have any questions for me personally I would be glad to answer them if they are not too intrusive.

To all of those who have helped me and mine I appreciate it. We are truly grateful. To name some who were all too generous: Steve & Delia ( The Newly Weds) gave everything in their car to help us in our survival efforts. You are beyond awesome in every way. You are the only people I know in my life to give generously and from the heart.You saw our situation and gave everything you could;Food, beverages to the second power,paint for the children, tackle for fishing & fishing pole (Ours were broken),You made a stone oven pizza and shared it with us. The little ones still talk about the pizza and your kindness. Bruce & Gay there are no words for what you have done to help with the boat and the time spent women to women I am grateful. We sure enjoyed those special banana pancakes.

To all who have posted on this thread. I do apologize as I was not present for my own conversations with you. Actually I do not recall having a conversation with most of you excluding the people I met. To all of those who post things about others without getting the facts first are jumping to their own conclusions and it is better kept to yourself. There is a saying that goes...If you don't know what you are saying, it's best not to speak. Or in this case write. I believe it is called slander and I am respectfully requesting you put a sock in it..

My mother was contacted from family members on my husband's side and there was no answer or answering machine available to leave a message. My reasoning to contact my mother was to give her a common curiosity in letting her know I am alive and well. A check in if you wish to call it that. All other matters are none of your concern unless I speak of it and make it so.

There are those who try to nit and pick lies out of a casual meeting. I respectfully request that you Zip-It unless you were actually present.

[woody with a view] Thank you. My mother is concerned. But seems to create a drama instead of actually helping
with much needed supplies. Because of her and the postings made our family went w/o the help we could have received.

We were not warned of any of the advancing storms that we weathered through the night as "true sailors". It appears there are two on this posting that know the meaning of being at sea. The boat was completely sideways at times. We lost one anchor, one life saver and our dingy ripped off. Oh yeah, the children were sleeping through it and are more mature than most brats I have seen in America. We received word shortly thereafter of two other boats that were beached because of the storm that blew through the area.

Our children have been home schooled for three years now & it is registered in California for all those nay Sayers. If the decent people on Baja Nomads want to do good deeds for others that is great but please stop the bickering.

[timmurphy] we said: Mr. Tim I have never met a man more life threatening. To ride by me and my three year old baby on the beach, not more than a foots distance and throw sand into our faces as he passed by. My son was crying and frightened. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED ! You actually sit on this website and discuss child protective services after doing what you did. A- Mazingly shocking. Also, it is a wonderful thing to express yourself through writing though it is always best to be remain in the ball park of being "truthful/fact-full". It appears as though you are not.

Again we wish to say thank you to all those helpful people for all the loving support given. There are too many names to list. We love and thank you and we will never forget what each one of you have done for us. If you see us out there say hello and let us know you are from Baja Nomads. Have Happy Holidays and New Year! ~Namaste

Glad everybody is safe. God Bless Matt

David K - 1-8-2013 at 04:50 PM

I too, while critical of the event, am relieved to hear from you and hope you and the kids are okay... Thank you IAMTHATIAM for joining Nomad and giving us some first-hand details on your 'adventure'! I wish you and your children well... Maybe your kids will take after you and not fear adventure or fear Mexico, either! :bounce:

cono saga

timmurphy - 1-8-2013 at 05:15 PM

well you must have the wrong person.my name is of course tim murphy,however,the closest you ever were to me was through binoculars.furthermore,I would never be an buttcrack to anyone,especially when I am in my baja zen mode.slander ?

Namaste & family

captkw - 1-8-2013 at 07:03 PM

Hola, & happy newyear !! thank you for Your post..I Think I can say that for many folks here !! I myself Have been wondering about you folks as a boat & traveler guy... And Crew member Space ship earth ...Are you folks still on the boat ??? is that a piver/browning ? And The Question of a life time ??? and you dont have to answer..I,, for one will understand..having been in storms..Would you do it again ??? Keith & Tasha.. :cool:

Curt63 - 1-8-2013 at 09:10 PM

Glad they are safe and communicating. I'm not going to shift my imagination into overdrive, but I think there is more to this story.

rts551 - 1-9-2013 at 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Curt63
Glad they are safe and communicating. I'm not going to shift my imagination into overdrive, but I think there is more to this story.

Curt
Maybe you can communicate directly on your next trip to Abreojos. They have been here for over a month now.

Skipjack Joe - 1-9-2013 at 08:45 AM

IAMTHATIAM,

I don't think anyone here are Nomads knew for sure what was really going on. Most just wanted to err on the side of caution and be sure that the kids were all right.

torch - 1-9-2013 at 08:56 AM

I'd love to hear more about the adventures and experiences on this trip.

ex.
"We were not warned of any of the advancing storms that we weathered through the night as "true sailors". It appears there are two on this posting that know the meaning of being at sea. The boat was completely sideways at times. We lost one anchor, one life saver and our dingy ripped off. Oh yeah, the children were sleeping through it and are more mature than most brats I have seen in America. We received word shortly thereafter of two other boats that were beached because of the storm that blew through the area."

mcfez - 1-9-2013 at 10:52 AM

Well said........

Quote:

Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
IAMTHATIAM,

I don't think anyone here are Nomads knew for sure what was really going on. Most just wanted to err on the side of caution and be sure that the kids were all right.

LancairDriver - 1-9-2013 at 01:57 PM

A few years back on a Motorhome drive to Mulege, I pulled off at the junction of 1 and BOLA by the abandoned Pemex station to take a break. Immediately two young gringos I had not noticed came running up, thinking I had stopped to pick them up. They turned out to be members of the Rainbow Family heading to the annual Rainbow gathering held that year somewhere around La Paz. They had no food, no water, ,not a peso, and only the hippy style clothes on their back, without a care in the world. They had been sitting there for two days before I came along. I offered them a ride as far as Mulege, and had an interesting education on the philosophy of the Rainbow Family during the remainder of the trip, on which I supplied food and beverages and an air conditioned comfortable ride, which I was happy to do. I learned that they never panhandle or ask for anything, share anything they may acquire, and rely on the goodness of others to exist. They sit passively by the side of the road and wait to be noticed rather than holding their thumb out. I dropped them off at the Pemex just south of Mulege. A few days later I went by there and there they still sat. I stopped to see if there was any way I could help, and they assured me they were fine, and the locals were seeing to their well being with food and water etc. After a few days they were gone, presumably made it to the convention eventually. Some may consider this irresponsible, others a noble brave undertaking. Moral of the story is that this mode of operation obviously works, probably better in Baja than the US.

pappy - 1-9-2013 at 02:43 PM

homeschooled? are their assignments getting turned in?

BajaBlanca - 1-9-2013 at 03:14 PM

well, I sure am glad we heard from the horse's mouth ! great news that all are OK and that the trip has continued .....

my thought:

is there no way you can find out what weather awaits you before you embark on your next leg of the trip ? why put your kids' lives in any danger for even a second on an ocean that rarely forgives?

rts551 - 1-9-2013 at 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
well, I sure am glad we heard from the horse's mouth ! great news that all are OK and that the trip has continued .....

my thought:

is there no way you can find out what weather awaits you before you embark on your next leg of the trip ? why put your kids' lives in any danger for even a second on an ocean that rarely forgives?

you can visit her at Juanita's Blanca if you want to talk to her.

Hook - 1-9-2013 at 05:14 PM

OF COURSE THERE ARE WAYS OF KNOWING ABOUT APPROACHING WEATHER!! Any PRUDENT boater knows that. And it's not expensive. A simple world band receiver will provide that.

Instead, I guess it is hoped that we will accept that they are capable boaters by pointing out that TWO OTHER BOATS WENT AGROUND, while they managed not to.

Ah, what Bohemians, they are!!!................. :rolleyes:

They are fools! And the sea eventually makes short work of fools.

I guess maybe they are waiting for chubasco season before they head south. :lol:

DavidE - 1-9-2013 at 05:39 PM

Hope they aren't bound for Tehuantepecker Territory (off Oaxaca and Chiapas). I've seen 104F February days with 90 mph offshore winds. All the trees and vegetation grows at a 45 degree angle. The sea can be merciless.

luv2fish - 1-9-2013 at 05:41 PM

1.Where is Juanita's ??
2.how are the children receiving fresh learning material???
3.If they have to depend on handouts, what happens when the poor people who don't have enough for themselves let alone for an entire family??

[Edited on 1-10-2013 by luv2fish]

pappy - 1-9-2013 at 10:21 PM

glad all are ok(for now). however, i think this whole deal is still very questionable...especially where the kids welfare and safety is concerned.

gnukid - 1-9-2013 at 10:48 PM

There is nothing better for kids and family than sailing adventure together. It's definitely the best education for both kids and parents. If you don't want to help them then don't if you want to help then do, otherwise its none of your business.

[Edited on 1-10-2013 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 1-10-2013 at 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gnukid
There is nothing better for kids and family than sailing adventure together. It's definitely the best education for both kids and parents. If you don't want to help them then don't if you want to help then do, otherwise its none of your business.

Right on, newkid!

Curt63 - 1-10-2013 at 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gnukid
There is nothing better for kids and family than sailing adventure together. It's definitely the best education for both kids and parents.

They are certainly learning the "Rainbow" way.

I don't think they are getting the best education in sailing or navigation. Sailing and navigation is not something you want to learn "the hard way." Especially in central Baja during chubasco season.

[Edited on 1-10-2013 by Curt63]

pappy - 1-10-2013 at 10:17 AM

i get the education and adventure part. but from my perspective, it appears they are putting the kids in harms way. they aslo seem ill prepared which is the wrong thing to teach your kids. i don't mind helping people but these folks seem like they are just mooching off of anybody, anyplace they can.

desertcpl - 1-10-2013 at 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pappy
i get the education and adventure part. but from my perspective, it appears they are putting the kids in harms way. they aslo seem ill prepared which is the wrong thing to teach your kids. i don't mind helping people but these folks seem like they are just mooching off of anybody, anyplace they can.

agree

Cono crew

pappy - 2-8-2013 at 01:49 PM

Any word on where the cono crew is at, or how they are doing?

Curt63 - 2-8-2013 at 02:16 PM

About 2 weeks ago, there was a report that they had been at Abreojos for a month.

pappy - 2-13-2013 at 12:04 PM

not a bad place to be...

Ateo - 2-13-2013 at 12:31 PM

I thought you were talking about those mean locals at the Punta Cono. Ha ha

pappy - 2-13-2013 at 01:51 PM

naw- meant the charity cases...

BajaNomad - 3-9-2013 at 05:56 PM

Received news today that Lea and the kids are back in the USA safe and sound with Lea's mom, and the kids are back in school.

William is still with the boat in Baja.

DianaT - 3-9-2013 at 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by BajaNomad
Received news today that Lea and the kids are back in the USA safe and sound with Lea's mom, and the kids are back in school.

William is still with the boat in Baja.

Excellent news. :yes:

Islandbuilder - 3-9-2013 at 06:25 PM

That is indeed great news!

Amazing that we stretched this out for 20 pages, isn't it? I guess it's human nature to fill in a factual vacuume with speculation and opinion.

I am impressed with how many folks on here either went, or were willing to go, so far to help someone who needed help, regardless of whether the predicament they faced was of their own doing or not.

Also, kudos to the fishers of Punta Cono who gave so much from the meager supplies.

Good people all.

Skipjack Joe - 3-9-2013 at 06:30 PM

Don't know what to conclude. Both sides made reasonable arguments.

Yes, it was dangerous and yes, it was educational. And more important - fun.

tripledigitken - 3-9-2013 at 06:35 PM

Happy with the outcome. I was worried about those kids.

I understand the education value with such an adventure, this one seemed to be a little underprepared. Just my take.

Ken

BajaBlanca - 3-10-2013 at 10:18 AM

I have to agree with Ken

and I am SO glad they are home

We did go to punta abreojos to see how they were doing over a month ago and they were on the boat and it started heading north .. so we never met them.

sure sounds like home in the US of A was a better place to be under the circumstances

David K - 3-10-2013 at 10:34 AM

Since Lea (the mom) joined Nomad (as 'IAMTHATIAM'), maybe we will get to hear "the rest of the story"... someday??? :light:

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