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woody with a view - 11-26-2010 at 07:28 PM

and what lencho said!

mojo_norte - 11-26-2010 at 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
Don-Kay's ego sucking all matter into the area around oceanside, ca. sure, he is spending some time putting Mike's adventure into perspective for the BajaNomadNation, but then why should you/we read the book (on a Kindle of course!) as you/we already know what happened?

Huh? Do Burros have ego - Why should Don-Kay (AKA The Burro) suffer for Mike's book deal - sorry - I hate animal abuse -

David K - 11-26-2010 at 10:46 PM

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I have to tell you that with all the 'Monday morning quarterbacking' about Mike and Don-Kay from some Nomads I was hesitant to continue with the daily location posts...

You mean to actually let Mike have his own adventure without turning it into reality TV?

Get real, you can't do it! :lol:

What I am doing is with the blessing of Mike... I wouldn't take the time to post the maps and images if it wasn't of interest and requested by Mike and countless viewers. I think it would help Nomads to meet up with him and bring Don-Kay supplies (since a lot of folks have pitty on the burro... doing burro things) and maybe Mike too. :light:

Skipjack Joe - 11-26-2010 at 11:18 PM

It would be nice if any information of the day's events could be included once in a while. No matter how insignificant. Just to get a better feel for the journey. The weather , what they ate, who they met, how long are the breaks. Blister today. Low on coffee tomorrow.

Otherwise this thread will be too dry.

Not only will more people follow this thread but it will increase sale rather than the other way around.

Regarding the criticism - it comes with the territory. Any public endeavor will have it's critics. It's just a choice on what a reader wants to focus on. I wouldn't get upset about it because that just blows it out of proportion.

shari - 11-27-2010 at 07:12 AM

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... I had no idea a book was in the works until BajaGringo reported it when he returned from Puerto Catarina. I didn't like the idea from that point, but I decided to continue posting the location of Mike as a matter of concern for them and that the vast majority who view this form enjoy seeing their progress.

When Mike & I were corresponding about his upcoming trip, I offered to help coordinate help in the case he needed it because Juan has many amigos & family up and down the peninsula...he never mentioned a book...

I think a book is a wonderful idea and doesnt diminish my interest in his trek at all.... why on earth wouldnt you like the idea David? I for one am grateful for the posts you do to keep track of where Mike is so perhaps some nomads may want to join him for a bit which I hope to do too when he gets closer.

What I dont get is why some people attack each other personally on a thread about one man's journey...it's interesting to read people's opinions and outlooks...I may not agree but try not to attack the poster who expresses them. I very much look forward to the book.

hunker down Mike et al...looks like we're gonna have a nasty blow on sunday.

books

volcano - 11-27-2010 at 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by David K
I have to tell you that with all the 'Monday morning quarterbacking' about Mike and Don-Kay from some Nomads I was hesitant to continue with the daily location posts...

You mean to actually let Mike have his own adventure without turning it into reality TV?

Get real, you can't do it! :lol:

I believe this adventure will also add sales to Graham's books, as I for one now MUST order them! It's all great and of interest.

What about.....

bajaguy - 11-27-2010 at 08:57 AM

Solo???

All this talk about Mike and Don-Kay......but nothing about Solo?????

"Dog Is My Co-Pilot"

(with apologies to Pompano and HIS Co-Pilot)

shari - 11-27-2010 at 09:06 AM

I really dont think Mike is "FORCING" anyone to buy his book by keeping some of the details out of the press. Nor does he have to answer to our whims here on Nomad....it wasnt HIS idea for us all to be tracking him here.

I think it was a smart idea...I love intrigue and it's fun imagining the whole scenario...I dont mind in the least that he wants to tell the story in full in his own words.

DENNIS - 11-27-2010 at 09:09 AM

This is getting ridiculous.

wilderone - 11-27-2010 at 09:22 AM

"...but then why should you/we read the book (on a Kindle of course!) as you/we already know what happened?"

You don't know an iota of what happens on a daily basis - the military roust, the planning, why Solo is on the trip and what she does, the awesome landscape, the dinosaur bones - I won't say another word. The trip is only 1/4th completed - anything can happen. And it wasn't Mike's idea for a book anyway.

BajaGringo - 11-27-2010 at 09:41 AM

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I really dont think Mike is "FORCING" anyone to buy his book by keeping some of the details out of the press. Nor does he have to answer to our whims here on Nomad....it wasnt HIS idea for us all to be tracking him here.

I think it was a smart idea...I love intrigue and it's fun imagining the whole scenario...I dont mind in the least that he wants to tell the story in full in his own words.

Yah, I agree with you Shari... but it is what Ron posted that Mike told him the reason for secrecy on how he was able to get past the cliffs. I think the obvious is not hard to figure out as there are no roads there. Anyway, let's try and enjoy Mike's adventure and the rest of what is on Baja Nomad.

I think this is getting way off track.

Mike is not hiking down the trail thinking of money he can make off a book or which strategy will sell more books by telling / withholding details. The idea of writing a book was suggested to Mike but even he admitted to me that the idea of it still overwhelms him as he is not a writer.

Mike is focused on getting through each day, keeping his team fed, watered, safe and intact and hopefully closer to his destination than when the day began. Nothing more.

Mike's rescue from below the Catarina mesa was really quite an amazing story with a lot of details and I probably don't know half of them. I just think he wants to be the one to tell that part of his own story, not some third party. I don't blame him.

This really is a tough crowd sometimes...

David K - 11-27-2010 at 09:44 AM

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Thank you BajaGringo... Good to hear that from you!

TMW - 11-27-2010 at 09:57 AM

Maybe he and the others loaded the burro in the boat and strapped it down and they don't want PETA to find out.

Hay, I like a good conspiracy theory as well as anyone. The opinions expressed by so many on a guy walking down Baja with a burro and dog make for good reading.

Curt63 - 11-27-2010 at 10:07 AM

If you can transport a full sized pick on 2 pangas and a couple timbers, you can probably hog tie and load a burro for a short ride.

DianaT - 11-27-2010 at 10:19 AM

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This is getting ridiculous.

Yea---you are correct. Hopefully he has learned to take better care of the donkey-----

so time to sit back and just watch the show---including all of the credit seekers, those involved in emergency help simply for humanitarian reasons, the informercials that will evolve, and the promotion of his adventure book, if and when he decides to write it---which some will buy and some will not. And it sounds like maybe he will write a book, and maybe not All is an interesting adventure.

Again, I wish Mike well and Don Kay better.

[Edited on 11-28-2010 by DianaT]

ArvadaGeorge - 11-27-2010 at 12:14 PM

If anyone can put a burro in a boat it's a mexican. They are the best at using what they have.

David keep up the good work i imagine there are a lot of us that follow, and appreciate, what you write and don't always chime in.

Graham - 11-27-2010 at 01:50 PM

Just to be fair to Mike, in all the months I’ve been discussing the trip with him, he never once mentioned writing a book, except to dismiss the idea claiming he couldn’t write and couldn’t imagine putting in all the months and months of work to tell the tale. That was certainly not his motivation.

Moreover, Mike has months and months of trials and tribulations and unbelievable hard work in front of him. There is nothing certain, predictable or guaranteed in what he has undertaken. Every day will be an adventure and like Bajagringo said he’ll be fully preoccupied with the everyday business of packing, unpacking, camping, breaking camp, taking care of his buddies and balancing the needs of keeping the weight down and making sure he’s carrying everything necessary to get by.

Hope he continues to find the same kindness, hospitality and helpfulness that I found on my Baja burro trip.

DENNIS - 11-27-2010 at 02:20 PM

I hope Mike isn't reading all this boolsht.

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[Edited on 11-27-2010 by DENNIS]

Cypress - 11-27-2010 at 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I hope Mike isn't reading all this boolsht.

He's got other things to worry about.

[Edited on 11-27-2010 by DENNIS]

BajaBlanca - 11-27-2010 at 03:50 PM

boy, I agree, this is such a tough crowd sometimes.

BajaGringo - 11-27-2010 at 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

All this brings to mind the proverb "No me ayudes, compadre..." :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fW2YOFOVU

mojo_norte - 11-27-2010 at 06:31 PM

Hats off to the Heroes so far..

David K
BajaGringo
Solo - Kevin / Neil
San Carlos Fish Camp

Peaceful Valley Donkey Rescue - please give ..

http://donkeyrescue.donordrive.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cms....

Brian L - 11-27-2010 at 06:39 PM

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All this brings to mind the proverb "No me ayudes, compadre..." :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fW2YOFOVU

Double the :lol:

mtgoat666 - 11-27-2010 at 06:44 PM

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I was a bit put off by what BajaGringo posted that Mike said. I mean we all were concerned and willing to help if even it required driving hundreds of miles. I think the making it a secret of the method of how he and Don-Kay were able to get to Puerto Catarina from where they were on the 20th, to force us to buy a book, is wrong. If he doesn't have faith in the market created by his trek alone to buy some future book, then he doesn't know Baja Nomads very well. At that point the nature of his trek changed from a man's desire of adventure to a man's desire to sell books.

Naturally, I will give Mike the benefit that it wasn't him posting that but I also trust in what BajaGringo posts here.

Let's just continue following him, and see how it goes... hoping for a good outcome, naturally.

you guys are all loony tunes. secret stories to boost book stories. good samaritans offended by secrets. where do y'all come up with this crazy stuff?
when they make this into a movie, which actors will play the arm chair blogging adventurers?

BajaGringo - 11-27-2010 at 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by mojo_norte
Hats off to the Heroes so far..

Peaceful Valley Donkey Rescue - please give ..

http://donkeyrescue.donordrive.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cms....

Here's the real hero in my book....

krafty - 11-27-2010 at 07:01 PM

I for one will buy the book and tuck copies of these posts into it-sometimes the rants here get pretty funny-lots of agendas out there :bounce:

Skipjack Joe - 11-27-2010 at 07:25 PM

Oh wait! There's a rope around his ankle.

What savage would treat an animal like that!?

windgrrl - 11-27-2010 at 08:26 PM

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Oh wait! There's a rope around his ankle.

What savage would treat an animal like that!?

And what about those big and lovely gorgeous lashes - must be falsies applied daily to Don Kay for the paparazzi! :lol:

Nov. 27, 2010

David K - 11-27-2010 at 08:44 PM

Mike, Don-Kay and Solo had another big day... I will guess around 14 miles to just past the San Jose fish camp.

In order for possible access needs I have drawn in some roads that the AAA map doesn't show TW has recently driven. Mileages from TW. Until Mike gets to the modern un-paved highway near Bahia Blanco (that runs all the way along the coast to Santa Rosalillita), 4WD and a second vehicle is recommended to reach him.

BajaGringo - 11-27-2010 at 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Mike, Don-Kay and Solo had another big day... I will guess around 14 miles to just past the San Jose fish camp.

In order for possible access needs I have drawn in some roads that the AAA map doesn't show TW has recently driven. Mileages from TW. Until Mike gets to the modern un-paved highway near Bahia Blanco (that runs all the way along the coast to Santa Rosalillita), 4WD and a second vehicle is recommended to reach him.

Wow, they are really moving! I am guessing that the lighter load on Don-Kay is really making the difference. Mike had to drop a lot of stuff including all of his books he brought to read but the payoff is obvious and I am sure that DK (the 4 legged variety) is much happier.

Second vehicle? I guess I missed that one in my trip planning...

:?:

David K - 11-27-2010 at 08:57 PM

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Second vehicle? I guess I missed that one in my trip planning...

:?:

My point was to alert folks that the roads along the coast between Puerto Catarina (where you went) and Bahia Blanca should only be driven in a 4WD with a companion vehicle... for safety. Just good advice... what we did in 2007 when we cruised by with The Squarecircle. http://vivabaja/707

[Edited on 11-28-2010 by David K]

DianaT - 11-27-2010 at 08:59 PM

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Wow, they are really moving! I am guessing that the lighter load on Don-Kay is really making the difference. Mike had to drop a lot of stuff including all of his books he brought to read but the payoff is obvious and I am sure that DK (the 4 legged variety) is much happier.

Second vehicle? I guess I missed that one in my trip planning...

:?:

Looks like Don Kay sent out strong messages and they were heard. Three cheers for Don Kay. Now on with the show.

longlegsinlapaz - 11-27-2010 at 09:33 PM

I applaud Mike challenging himself & taking on the rugged terrain & conditions, as well as Mother Nature!! I believe he's encountered some very rough spots along the way & will apply his hard learned lessons going forth, to the benefit of himself, Don-Kay & Solo. I believe this is a total team effort & Mike is just as dependent on Don-Kay & his well-being, as Don-Kay is dependent on Mike's well-being & treatment. I wish them all a safe & successful journey....mile after mile, after mile, after mile, after stinkin mile! :bounce:

WAY TO GO MIKE!! :bounce:

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Originally posted by David K
I have to tell you that with all the 'Monday morning quarterbacking' about Mike and Don-Kay from some Nomads I was hesitant to continue with the daily location posts...

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Sure, I was a bit miffed that Mike isn't telling us Nomads
how he got Don-Kay around the cliffs to Puerto Catarina... after the help all the involved Nomads provided. But, since Ed at the newspaper is getting his information from here, I guess I see why. The story and photos of that event (if any) should be great to see once the book is published.

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....I had no idea a book was in the works until BajaGringo reported it when he returned from Puerto Catarina. I didn't like the idea from that point, but I decided to continue posting the location of Mike as a matter of concern for them and that the vast majority who view this form enjoy seeing their progress.

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I was a bit put off by what BajaGringo posted that Mike said. I mean we all were concerned and willing to help if even it required driving hundreds of miles. I think the making it a secret of the method of how he and Don-Kay were able to get to Puerto Catarina from where they were on the 20th, to force us to buy a book, is wrong. If he doesn't have faith in the market created by his trek alone to buy some future book, then he doesn't know Baja Nomads very well. At that point the nature of his trek changed from a man's desire of adventure to a man's desire to sell books.

Naturally, I will give Mike the benefit that it wasn't him posting that but I also trust in what BajaGringo posts here.

A bit Miffed?? Had no idea?? A bit put off??? Why??? :?:

Would you not have offered if you'd have been told up-front a book might follow Mike's epic trek? What difference does it make? Did Mike violate some sacred unwritten secret oath here? :?:

As others have pointed out, isn't publication of this type of adventure after the fact more common than not? You're coming across as though Mike used & deceived you somehow!

In all honesty, WHAT SPECIFICALLY are you miffed & put off about? The fact that there may be a book....or the fact that bajagringo found out before you & usurped you spilling the beans??

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Graham deserves any boost in sales, so I hope so! 'Into a Desert Place' and 'Journey with a Baja Burro' both are about walking great distances in Baja, at first alone then later with a burro to carry the load. http://grahammackintosh.com

And Mike doesn't deserve the same if he eventually does decide to publish his epic adventure? :?:

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I offered to post his SPOT locations on the Internet and Mike accepted, and liked the idea. So, no hint from him for free publicity for a future book. It doesn't really matter, I like Baja books, I collect them (like Neal Johns does) and will buy Mike's. Adventure is what it is all about... real life or arm chair...

Based on what you've said throughout this thread, I have a question for you....did you tell Mike upfront when you OFFERED to post his SPOT locations on a daily basis that there were strings/conditions that you were attaching to your offer? Did you make it clear to Mike before he accepted your generous offer exactly what those strings/conditions were & that you reserved the right to bail on your offer if he had the audacity to violate your terms & conditions?

I totally agree with your statement, "Adventure is what it is all about... real life or arm chair." This is totally about Mike, Don-Kay & Solo, it's not about DavidK & his fragile ego. Man up & honor your commitment to Mike to post his progress on a daily basis. Please stop with the petty grade school threat to renege on your offer & stop the whining & sniveling. Don't make Mike regret having accepted your generous offer when he reads your words here....and he eventually will read them!

Barry A. - 11-27-2010 at 10:10 PM

Hmmmmmmmm, LongLegs has just demonstrated to me how taking things out of context will totally mess up someone's good intentions, in this case David's. What is it with you guys and gals????? Do you see ghosts too??? Do you think David is out to get you??? Is he the enemy???

This IS a tough crowd--------and way beyond my comprehension in how they come up with this stuff.

Just ignore it, David (I guess) and keep up the good work.

Barry

mtgoat666 - 11-28-2010 at 12:04 AM

CHILDREN!!!!
PLEASE BEHAVE!!!!!!!!

Brian L - 11-28-2010 at 12:07 AM

I honestly wish this thread could be returned to what it was supposed to have been. Oh well, it is a forum that is open to all subscribers, so we have to take the bad with the good.

That brings up a question. Would it be possible to start a locked thread that only shows the updated locations and maps? This thread could be left for accusing everyone of something or another.

krafty - 11-28-2010 at 12:21 AM

Blane, what a wonderful idea-go David K........

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-28-2010 at 08:18 AM

Sunman - 11-28-2010 at 09:12 AM

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I honestly wish this thread could be returned to what it was supposed to have been.

Impossible with the packs of jackals here waiting to pounce on any misstep. And i'm not referencing this thread only.

watizname - 11-28-2010 at 12:43 PM

Never posted before, but I have to now. I can't believe how you guys can take an interesting thread and make it into a childish mudslinging contest about yourselves. Wow, unbelievable. :?:

DianaT - 11-28-2010 at 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by watizname
Never posted before, but I have to now. I can't believe how you guys can take an interesting thread and make it into a childish mudslinging contest about yourselves. Wow, unbelievable. :?:

Welcome,
And what you will find out around here is that lots of people will agree with you because everyone thinks it is only the OTHER people who throw mud, or if they throw any mud it is because it was deserved, or asked for, or they are innocent because they do it in insidious ways.
Tis the way of things I fear. :biggrin:

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-28-2010 at 12:55 PM

DENNIS - 11-28-2010 at 01:17 PM

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Welcome to BajaNomad, watizname. Stick around for a while and get a feeling of what drives this place. It's roughly akin to family bickering and not nearly as cold and heartless as a first view might suggest.
Are you comfortable knowing what motivated you to participate? An errant voyeurism of sorts, I would suspect. That qualifies you to be an outstanding addition to the community and I hope you will join in.

Anything "Baja" going on in your life these days?

DianaT - 11-28-2010 at 01:31 PM

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Funny how it is... one person takes lots of time to provide interesting data on a great adventure... and that is what this thread is about, an adventure.

Then others to look cool perhaps post how cruel it is to use a donkey to carry gear, then how cool they are for making fun of one person who posted his thoughts after they posted theirs...

Either it is okay for us all to have an opinion on the adventure or leave those opinions to a different thread. Democracy is about all sides being heard... right?

I removed the past two days of my opinions... and hope others do as well... so this can be a thread on the adventure and location of Mike.

I will remove this after a day or so.

tripledigitken - 11-28-2010 at 01:38 PM

I second the suggestion of somehow making this thread or a replacement one for updates of Mike's journey only.

The bickering, name calling, PETA rallying, could be in another thread.

Ken

(Like him or not David's posting of Mike's locations are making this journey an epic one for all of us to enjoy realtime.)

Thanks again David!

tiotomasbcs - 11-28-2010 at 01:51 PM

Twnty years ago in my full size GMC w/camper it took me two days to navigate Lighthouse-San Jose area. First was the river-bog and then down the beach for a wild-open throttle dirt track that the fisherman pointed out was the road-trail. Don't know what would have happened if I didn't make itup the dune/trail!! Foolishly I was alone altho my faithful Lab always had the greatest confidence in me! Got stuck in the mud a day later!! Lab was in heaven ! Fisherman helped dig me out next day!! A moost beautiful pllace. The ocean was flat as the Sea of Cortez, ha, ha! I would have been better of with a burro. :lol:

Tio

Bajaboy - 11-28-2010 at 03:50 PM

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RichBaja - 11-28-2010 at 05:48 PM

I almost guarantee that those hand ringing about the donkey have not ever been upset by what happens to an unborn child.

WHEN I'M 63 I WILL DO IT TOO!

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-28-2010 at 05:55 PM

woody with a view - 11-28-2010 at 05:59 PM

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funny, but no so much, how your point of view takes precedence. almost like nothing else matters.......

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woody with a view - 11-28-2010 at 06:02 PM

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I almost guarantee that those hand ringing about the donkey have not ever been upset by what happens to an unborn child.

nice of you to go out on a limb, almost! tell me how i feel about the way you care less about what happens to a 5 year old child, living on the street near you=====> :fire:

BooJumMan - 11-28-2010 at 06:22 PM

I'm going to have to drink a few shots of tequila to understand what the heck is going on this post now... thanks!

mojo_norte - 11-28-2010 at 06:44 PM

I think this post is great - Lots of good pros and cons and great graphics!

Do you think anything posted here will effect Mike's adventure?

Are you interested in following his progress in this post? He's already stated that he's saving it all for the book - so ... enjoy the Nomad madness and buy the book when it comes out - or not!

bajaguy - 11-28-2010 at 06:47 PM

Wish he had a Donkey Cam........

mojo_norte - 11-28-2010 at 07:16 PM

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Then others to look cool perhaps post how cruel it is to use a donkey to carry gear

I'm in the Pro Burro camp - not to be cool - but it's my feeling that there is some cruelness in taking that animal on this adventure - over San Carlos Mesa and beyond without enough water- resources remain sketchy for most of the journey - figure 5 gallons / day for man and beasts. Opposing camp says - mikes cool , his adventure is cool - mikes suffering so the Burro can suffer as well - Mike has choices - Burro is a victim - for Burro, Baja adventure sucks - IMO

mojo_norte - 11-28-2010 at 07:23 PM

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BajaBlanca - 11-28-2010 at 07:25 PM

I myself think the burro must be having a great time - he has company and is walking and eating and drinking. As stated many times already, if he is unhappy, he will plop down and take it plenty easy !!! Animals have instinct and I never thought that burros were .......... well .............. sooooo stubbornly smart

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-28-2010 at 07:27 PM

PS: I will be taking two mules. They are surefooted; can carry more supplies for me and them and I can ride one if needed.

mojo_norte - 11-28-2010 at 07:36 PM

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PS: I will be taking two mules. They are surefooted; can carry more supplies for me and them and I can ride one if needed.

Jeep Rubicon w/ mule carrying extra gas

Nov. 28, 2010

David K - 11-28-2010 at 10:11 PM

Mike and crew traved an estimated 10 miles (min.) today and is camped overlooking the ocean, about 2 miles north of the junction to Laguna Chapala.

RichBaja - 11-28-2010 at 10:38 PM

A little further south and he hits the seven Puntas. Great surf spots! Check them out.

Santiago - 11-29-2010 at 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by RichBaja
A little further south and he hits the seven Puntas. Great surf spots! Check them out.

From Jackie Greene's Seven Jealous Sisters:

"Seven sisters, seven sisters
Are on my mind, they're on my mind
They all live apart and they don't ever speak
So I can have me one every day of the week
Seven sisters are on my mind"

wilderone - 11-29-2010 at 10:25 AM

You know, there are many wild burros and horses, coyotes and some deer and sheep out in the wilds of Baja. Somehow they manage to get along - nobody putting 5 gallons of water in front of them. Everyone who Mike comes in contact with is, first and foremost, concerned with Don-Kay and caters to him. So far, so good.

Taco de Baja - 11-29-2010 at 10:32 AM

That's a beautiful stretch of coastline he’s passing through, and heading into.

XRPhlang - 11-29-2010 at 10:51 AM

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A little further south and he hits the seven Puntas. Great surf spots! Check them out.

Uh oh! Look out.

tripledigitken - 11-29-2010 at 11:33 AM

You mean you can drive right to those surf spots?

:lol:

shari - 11-29-2010 at 12:45 PM

many of those burros people think are wild are actually just FREE...but they belong to ranchers and know where their water troughs are and go to them every few days when they need to.

tiotomasbcs - 11-29-2010 at 12:57 PM

Just like many of us Nomads, no?! Free roaming souls who know where their Watering Holes are and visit them regularly! :wow:

Shut Up Franks, Sharkeys, El Candil, and The Road House to name a few!Too many days and I need to put my head in the trough, verdad! :lol:

Oh yeah and The Tidepool, too. Gotta bad thirst, gotta go! Tio

DENNIS - 11-29-2010 at 01:22 PM

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Gotta bad thirst, gotta go! Tio

Mee too. It's a beautiful, warm day...no freakin' wind and Sharky's opens in thirty minutes.
SALUD

Joelt - 11-29-2010 at 01:37 PM

On the last map that DK posted it shows a well to the east of Bahia Blanca. Does anyone know if it is there and is there with good water there? Just curious.

MsTerieus - 11-29-2010 at 03:20 PM

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Gotta bad thirst, gotta go! Tio

Mee too. It's a beautiful, warm day...no freakin' wind and Sharky's opens in thirty minutes.
SALUD

I thought you were boycotting Sharkeys. :?:

Bajahowodd - 11-29-2010 at 03:34 PM

Me too!!

Hook - 11-29-2010 at 04:04 PM

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You mean you can drive right to those surf spots?

:lol:

Of course you can. You didnt think surfers could hike in all the beer and Animalitos they need, did you?

Gentlemen, start your engines!!! And your GPSes!!! This is gonna be bigger than finding the Ark of the Covenant and Excaliber, combined.

Woody, I recommend Prozac.

[Edited on 11-29-2010 by Hook]

Nov. 29, 2010 Beyond Bahia Blanca

David K - 11-29-2010 at 06:39 PM

Mike and his four leg friends had a big day covering an estimated 16 miles from last night's camp.

They are taking a road that isn't on the AAA map or Almanac, but makes a short cut closer to the coast. We took it in 2007 and before rejoining the graded road going north to the San Antonio Jcn., we found a zone of silt (moon dust/ Baja dust) that reminded me of Laguna Chapala in the old days!

On the AAA map, near the San Antonio Jcn., a well is shown. Mike is not going by that point.

View west:

Viwe south:

High view (north at top):

AAA Map (lagoon south of Mike drawn in):

woody with a view - 11-29-2010 at 06:57 PM

thanks, Hook!

i'm trying to turn over a new leaf, remember? at least the surf has been/is gonna be flat for weeks so any errant fotos that might end up in a book won't give up the ghost.

Neptune willing....

Pescador - 11-30-2010 at 08:01 AM

David, thank you so much for your postings and providing the great information on the whole journey. Thank goodness you have thick enough skin not to let the people who have a little less sense than Don-Kay side- track you and get you off on a tangent. Kinda reminds me of the arm chair quarterbacks you can see at any football gathering who offer eloquent advice on what should have happened and why they are so much smarter and well informed than the person who is actually up to his ass in alligators and trying to drain the swamp. Graham, who is the only critic that has much of value to say, because of his experience, seems to be pretty positive about the whole endeavor.

shari - 11-30-2010 at 08:14 AM

hmmm...less sense than Don Kay??? interesting....ranchers tell me that if you arent sure which path to travel...let the burro choose...he'll know where to go. When Mike went up that canyon, I was wondering who's choice it was...did he follow Don Kay's lead? I look forward to asking him as we had that discussion on the phone about burros' good sense.

David, can you estimate about when Mike will arrive in Rosalillita...we are going to arrange for some hay and goodies to be waiting for them there.

Santiago - 11-30-2010 at 09:05 AM

Shari;
If he continues his current pace of 15 +- miles per day, then 3, maybe 4 days. I used the 'path' tool in GE and just followed the roads and got about 45 miles, not counting any side-trips they may do. It looks to me that there a a lot of level straight stretches so maybe 3?

mike.jpg - 37kB

TMW - 11-30-2010 at 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Joelt
On the last map that DK posted it shows a well to the east of Bahia Blanca. Does anyone know if it is there and is there with good water there? Just curious.

I was by the well last week and there is a windmill but I don't recall it turning. There are a couple of ranches in the area, one pretty close to the northeast across the valley. There is also a couple of fish camps. One on the north end of Bahia Blanco and one southwest of the well over the hills.

David K - 11-30-2010 at 09:45 AM

Shari, what Santiago says... 3 days, unless he finds a need to take a break for a couple days... which he may wait to do in Santa Rosalillita (specially if he knows there are 'friendlies' there).

Does your contact in Santa Rosalillita have a phone or Internet...? You could let him know Mike's location each night.

[Edited on 11-30-2010 by David K]

shari - 11-30-2010 at 11:27 AM

I justed talked to cousin Martin Arce in rosalillita and he will have some tasty flakes of hay waiting for Don Kay when they arrive there and give me a call on his cell to let us know he go there...thanks for that DK.

tiotomasbcs - 11-30-2010 at 12:19 PM

Weather report please for travel area. It has been a bit breezy with cool nites in mid fifties down here. Must be a bit cooler. By the way, why is he traveling so fast in one of the nicest areas? Does he need to finish in Cabo around a certain date? Tambien, was there a full route map posted back in this story?? I would like to get together with friends for a little Hospitalidad here in Pescadero!! :wow:

Tio

David K - 11-30-2010 at 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
Weather report please for travel area. It has been a bit breezy with cool nites in mid fifties down here. Must be a bit cooler. By the way, why is he traveling so fast in one of the nicest areas? Does he need to finish in Cabo around a certain date? Tambien, was there a full route map posted back in this story?? I would like to get together with friends for a little Hospitalidad here in Pescadero!! :wow:

Tio

No... but he is passing through LORETO. He has a home there. there was an interest in using El Camino Real south from San Ignacio.

Nov. 30, 2010: Punta Maria

David K - 11-30-2010 at 05:20 PM

Mike, Don-Kay and Solo walked 14 miles today and have set up camp at a rancho near the driveway to Punta Maria.

I will total up the November miles traveled... stay tuned!

Barry A. - 11-30-2010 at 05:26 PM

WOW!!!! It's tough to 'smell the roses' at the pace he is setting for himself, and company. He is on a marathon, it seems to me.

Barry

NOVEMBER REPORT

David K - 11-30-2010 at 05:43 PM

On Nov. 1 Mike began his day 3 miles south of Colonia Vicente Guerrero (12 miles north of San Quintin).

The miles are from point to point and estimated, not included are side trips, etc.

11-1: 12 mi. (arrive near San Quintin Bay rd.)
11-2: 5 mi.
11-3: 8 mi.
11-4: 6 mi.
11-5: 8 mi.
11-6: 4 mi. (arrive El Rosario)
11-7: 0
11-8: 0
11-9: 11 mi. (arrive Punta Baja)
11-10: 3 mi.
11-12: 10 mi. (arrive Punta San Antonio)
11-13: 0
11-14: 9 mi.
11-15: 8 mi. (arrive Punta San Carlos)
11-16: 2 mi.
11-17: 4.5 mi.
11-18: 1.5 mi.
11-19: 3 mi. (SPOT assistance needed signal)
11-20: 2 mi.
11-21: 6 mi. (arrive Puerto Catarina)
11-22: 0
11-23: 0
11-24: 0
11-25: 16 mi.
11-26: 14 mi.
11-27: 14 mi. (arrive San Jose Fish Camp)
11-28: 10 mi.
11-29: 16 mi.
11-30: 14 mi. (arrive near Punta Maria)

Total November estimated miles of progress: 187 miles. 23 walking days. Average miles per walking day: 8.1.

A big jump in the daily miles occured after arriving at Puerto Catarina... those 6 days averaged 14 miles per day!

Weather from Punta San Carlos... 11-30-10

David K - 11-30-2010 at 06:28 PM

Got a u2u from Neil at SoloSports and he said I could share the weather report with you...

"It's Neil from up in San Carlos. I am hoping Mike is alright but I would expect he has another chapter to put in his diary today. BIG Norte up here. Had sustained 50-60 with gusts to 80 from 7am to about 10. Backed off to 20 -50 now.
He is going to be one dusty son of a gun. It will be difficult getting the tent up unless he can find some cover."

[Edited on 12-1-2010 by David K]

Hook - 11-30-2010 at 06:50 PM

This whole stretch must be loaded with croakers and corbina. I hope he brought a surf rod. Surfish usually bite better with flat seas.

mojo_norte - 11-30-2010 at 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shari
I justed talked to cousin Martin Arce in rosalillita and he will have some tasty flakes of hay waiting for Don Kay when they arrive there and give me a call on his cell to let us know he go there...thanks for that DK.

Good on you Shari for that!

shari - 11-30-2010 at 07:03 PM

things calmed down here before sunset....seems like a change in the air...supposed to be a lovely next few days.

woody with a view - 11-30-2010 at 07:15 PM

yeah, Hook! those things are everywhere, if you know where to look. getting Don Kay (the burro!) to eat those things might be an issue, though..... :lol:

BajaBlanca - 11-30-2010 at 07:24 PM

so windy all day today in this area of Baja.... and now it is quiet, finally ! Mike must have eaten a lot of sand ... it was horrible in the wind - cold, sand stinging skin and eyes .... there were waves rolling in on the Sea of Cortez. What odd weather this year.

Skipjack Joe - 11-30-2010 at 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by shari

David, can you estimate about when Mike will arrive in Rosalillita...we are going to arrange for some hay and goodies to be waiting for them there.

Shari,

Please take some pictures and post any information you can find about his last week.

It would really help this thread, I think. It's been a long time since BajaGringo was in touch.

Brian L - 11-30-2010 at 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
WOW!!!! It's tough to 'smell the roses' at the pace he is setting for himself, and company. He is on a marathon, it seems to me.

Barry

Assuming he is only traveling about 6 hours a day, 16 miles a day would be 2.7 miles an hour. That's less than the average pedestrian speed. 16 miles a day has been his max, so I don't think he is moving too fast.

I'm not sure of his average hours a day walking though, so if it is less, he is really trucking.

Barry A. - 12-1-2010 at 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by blane

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry A.
WOW!!!! It's tough to 'smell the roses' at the pace he is setting for himself, and company. He is on a marathon, it seems to me.

Barry

Blane, you done any long hikes lately??? Don't know about you but 14 + miles per day every day is exhausting for most folks. Me, I am good for about 4 miles a day, now. At my peak, about 10 to 12 miles per day was enough, and no I am not overweight (much).

My main point was that covering that much ground per day is not really fun, but a project march, IMO.

But, I appreciate your point------if you push we are supposed to be able to do 3 mph consistantly.

Barry

DENNIS - 12-1-2010 at 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
if you push we are supposed to be able to do 3 mph consistantly.

Barry

I wonder how far it is from the bar to the men's room at Sharkey's? Sometimes it seems like miles. :lol:

Skipjack Joe - 12-1-2010 at 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry A.

My main point was that covering that much ground per day is not really fun, but a project march, IMO.

Barry

I totally agree. Especially with the limited daylight hours.

mtgoat666 - 12-1-2010 at 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry A.

Quote:

Originally posted by blane

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry A.
WOW!!!! It's tough to 'smell the roses' at the pace he is setting for himself, and company. He is on a marathon, it seems to me.

Barry

in my experience, if you do a multi-week/multi-month hike, it is easy to do 15 miles per day. once your body gets into the groove, the miles come easier, and you recover more quickly

Barry A. - 12-1-2010 at 10:56 AM

Probably true, Goat, but Mike is in his early 60's I believe-------that is a problem for many, and I know it was for me, and I made my living hiking the back Country as a Ranger--------

-----but obviously Mike is "doing it", so that proves your point, I guess.

Barry

Graham - 12-1-2010 at 11:40 AM

Mike has been hiking and training with the burro through spring and summer. And he has been walking most days since October 1. He’s clearly in great shape for his age - 62. Probably thrown away all his medications by now.

Fifteen miles a day is very doable, and I guess he’s eating up the miles along there because he’s energized by the wild remoteness and that chilling gusting wind off the Pacific, and he’s clearly reaping the benefits of lightening the load on the burro.

Even so, he’ll be looking to find the right place to rest, somewhere comfy, out of the wind with plenty of water available. But he’ll also have in mind that Cabo is still a long way off, and heat will be a factor as the months go by.

At the end of the day, Mike still has plenty of time for a little bonding and joint cultural activity with Don Kay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq19Ffl8IRk

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