Baja Real Estate advise

La Esmeralda
I was reading some of your blogs and it sounds like the Union Trib reporter never reported the whole story.
Is it Sandra Dibble you were working with?
The reason I’m asking is that she has interviewed us and the city about our cases and is about to print a story that
Will be more of the same.
She keeps asking me what the new angle should be and now I know but should I just let it lie or try to get her
To print more of the story???


When Sandra Dibble interviewed us, I was the president for the Binational Coastal residents counsel in Rosarito Beach and I was representing a lot of Americans who were being evicted by Ejido Mazatlan and Hugo Torres Chavert behind it.
We investigated the Ejido Mazatlan and found that it was and is at this day a fraud and only a way to steal land.
Ejido Mazatlan was created by presidential decree in 1937 by expropriating land to the Machando Family who supposedly inherited it from Joaquin Machado.
We found out that Joaquin Machado was an American citizen, born in San Diego California, who died in 1910 also as an American and is buried in California as an American and in a legal consequence, he was unable to hold a national Land title.
We found out that Joaquin Machado siblings in 1916 where living in San Francisco California USA as USA citizens when the Mexican Revolution was ending and knowing that the new constitution would keep forbidding the ownership of more than 2500 Has. They promptly sold the Rancho El Rosarito to a company named Cia. Explotadora de la Baja California, with a social capital 99.8% Canadian and only 0.2% Mexican while 0.1% belonged to a Mexican who were living in Los Angeles California while the Mexican Constitution forbid foreigner to own on the 50 Km. coastal strips, the 1863 law forbid the ownership of more than 2500 Has, forbid the ownership to foreigners and Mexicans living on other countries, making the 1879 issued Rancho El Rosarito an illegal title, the sale by the Machados a nill sale and the Cia Explotadora de la baja Calfornia ownership legally impossible.
Then in May 7, 1917 was published a decree returning the Baja California lands that were being possessed or owned by foreigners to National property, closing any possibility that foreigners owned any part of Baja.
Then in 1937, when the ejido was created, they expropriated to the Machado Family who at that time owned nothing and as a consequence, nothing was given to the Ejido Mazatlan and to permanently close the case, The Ejido Mazatlan was never formally given any land, because when the public officials found out that the Machado Family owned nothing, they were unable to give them anything, anyway they started to grab land in informal way, and that situation exist to this day, but it is being investigated by the Federal Police and Military Federal Police.
We gave all this information to Sandra Dibble with a lot of documents to prove those facts and she went away promising us that she would print a whole San Diego Union Tribune page and she did, but showing a ½ page photo of Enrique Esquivel, the Ejido chief then and telling that the ejido was working hard in Rosarito and not a word of the Americans that were being robbed.

After that, think twice about trusting Sandra Dibble from the San Diego Union Tribune

[Edited on 9-20-2011 by ramuma53]

Reading the recommended Story, that Sandra dibble published, may be misleading on the following facts:

*****Rule No. 1: Don’t pay for a property until you have the title. “Until you get the piece of the paper with the title, the home is not yours,” Hill said.*****

The first question is, what do you consider title in Mexico?
What kind of paper will assure you, you have legal title and you are the actual owner?

In Mexico, there is a capital difference with the English Property system.

In the English system, the public registry constitute a real right, it is the main property proof , if you are inscribed in it, you are the owner, the public registry inscription or scripture registered in it, is a total ownership´s proof .

In the Mexican law, the public registry is only the publication of a right, it does not constitute the right on itself or even prove it; if you are registered in it, you are not automatically considered the owner, and it does not prove beyond doubt that you are the owner. When you make and sign a private contract, a right is created, but only affect the signing parties, when you register it in the Public registry, it becomes public, but it does not mean the right exist at all or it is legal title, it only make public the fact, that you signed the contract, not that you are the owner; in other words, if your title has a defect, it will make public the fact, that you are now the owner of a title with a defect and since the seller was not the legal owner, you are also not the legal owner.

That is the main reason why the American buyers are so easily defrauded, they think that the law is the same and that the Public Registry inscription, make them the owners and that, was what happened in Punta Banda, Ensenada.

Then, what you need, is not a paper that looks official and say property title or an inscription on the public registry that say that you are the owner, even if signed in front of a Public notary.

What you need is to be sure, the real estate right you are acquiring, is the real thing and you cannot trust the:

a).- Real Estate agent who usually has very little legal knowledge and is more interested in you paying, than in protecting you.

b).- The Public notary who will only make sure, that you pay him, his royal share of the business and that, what you are buying, is in the Public Registry while he will never put in doubt any other public notary´s work, even if he know it is fraudulent and against the law.

c).- Officials at the public registry, that profit from the developers and contribute to their fraudulent goals, by misleading people assuring the developers are beyond doubt. That is why, you see there, public servants earning $1,200.00 dlls/month, wearing Narco style gold chains and owning apartment buildings in San Diego Ca.

d).- Baja Attorneys, who make deals among themselves, to assure their clients, that in Baja, all the Real Estate deals are safe while filling their pockets with the developer’s money, taken away from American buyers; also, most of them, know extremely little about the Mexican titles complexities wjile telling you they are experts at it.

e).- Title insurance companies that have attorneys who know nothing about Mexican real Estate laws and complexities and that have been issuing title insurance to every developer that pay them, because they do not insure you, against title defects. What else will you need them for?

What you need, is to know what you are doing, based on Mexican law, investigate yourself that the first title in a legal title chain is a national land title issued legally after 1917, not Ejido Land or Colonial title.

If you do your homework and do not trust the so called experts, you can get Baja property at bargain prices, properties that once the land legalization movement make a substantial effect will once more be valued at very high prices.

Remember, if you are a smart buyer and do your own homework, you will always come on top.

For the Esmeralda case, there is an easy fix for a smart investor, since it is National Land, just buy is from the National Land office and be the real owner when the prices return to golden age levels.

WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A COMPANY THAT HAS THE REAL ESTATE MEXICAN LAW KNOWLEDGE AND ESTABLISH A REPUTATION ABOUT WORKING FOR THE BUYER, NOT THE SELLER AND KNOW HOW TO INVESTIGATE THE TITLE LEGAL CHAIN, DOWN TO THE BOTTOM IN A SAFE WAY FOR THE BUYER AND THAT ALSO DOES NOT GO TO BED WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

[Edited on 10-3-2011 by ramuma53]

[Edited on 10-3-2011 by ramuma53]

I'm not buying anything south of the border. The best way to frame the property situation is "rent". You're renting the land! The guy that compared property ownership in Mexico to renting a lot in a trailer park in the US was spot on.

Zeta Magazine requested an interview. If it gets rough, we'll send them your way.

Great to see this moving along, and moving up the legal ladder

Hope ya get "headlines" on some of it .. Woooosh... would really kick it into overdrive... about now.,.. given current conditions in Mexico/Baja ... something all can understand ... property law in Mexico

Sinaloa call was spot on ..... till ya get to the "fence" ... then control changes once again.. which from a distribution standpoint makes sense ... if ya want to take that into consideration... factors which also impact real estate values.. and ones longevity IMHO

Best of luck, of course... and keep your head down... if that is possible

Let us know when your going to be on TV... would like to see the old CT Yankee on TV...

[Edited on 11-5-2011 by wessongroup]

http://www.puertadelmar.net/page17.html

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Originally posted by Woooosh I would like to explore the "Prescripcion Positiva" aspect more among our real estate expert group since Angel brought it up in the Mark and Olivia Thread where it was out of place. We'll go step by step to allow discussion by Angel and others. Angel posts: [Edited on 3-7-2012 by Woooosh]

There are several legal conditions needed to acquire a "Squatters Title" known as the "Prescripcion Positiva."

Article 1151. The possession necessary to prescribe:
I. Must be held in the concept of ownership for five years and be uncontested,
II. Must be Peaceful. When the possession is gained by violence the period for prescription is ten years for buildings, starting from the cessation of violence.
III. Must be Continuous (sole and permanent occupancy),
IV. Must be Public (marked or fenced)

Ms. Ortiz did not present a legal land title or any proof of payment when in April 2010 she asked the ZOFEMAT Director General to designate the land as her "private property" stating it was land she has "owned and occupied for over 20 years". If she had it, she would have presented it. That, and the fact she refused to present any other proof of ownership to Mr. Nava when he requested it- means she was attempting to acquire the land via the Prescripcion Positiva method.

Ms. Ortiz is claiming the fraccionamineto lot under the white house (Lot #5) AND the empty lot to the left designated by Mr. Nava as the Disabled Beach access (Lot #6). The house had previously been destroyed by the ocean and was vacant in 2005 as 14 neighbors have attested to in letters to ZOFEMAT and is clearly shown in photos taken in 2005.

The photo Angel refers to of Mr. Nava showing the Federal Zone concession Title to Ms. Ortiz in Jan 2010 proves the occupation by the squatter was contested prior to Ms. Ortiz accepting the Prescripcion Positiva in May of 2010. (There is also a YouTube video of this confrontation posted where the concession holder tells her she cannot do anything on his concessio). Still, Ms. Ortiz brought in police escorts for the truck carrying boulders, using the police to violate the legal rights Mr. Nava held for the concession- a federal crime.

In March 2010 Mr. Nava had a Red/white Federal Zone concession sign posted on the telephone pole directly in front of the house Ms. Ortiz now claims a legally acquired Prescripcion Positiva for. Since 2009, the pole has been within the bounds of concession DGZF-832/08 held by Mr. Nava. This shows Mr. Nava contested her presence prior to Ms. Ortiz accepting the Prescripcion Positiva in May 2010. It also shows the Federal Zone had already been moved by PROFEPA all the way to the street- Paseo del Mar. Ms. Ortiz illegally removed the sign, which is a federal crime. The legal notes concession DGZF-832/08 clearly stated the concession is "inperscriptable". Even still Ms. Ortiz went to the court and had the Prescripcion Positiva issued to her in May 2010 which is yet another federal crime.

In March 2010, Ms. Ortiz offered the two land parcels for sale to US investors for $199,000USD- claiming she had the legal title to sell it. In March 2010 she didn't even have the Prescripcion Positiva in hand yet, and since the complete area was now in the Federal Zone it would not be valid against the concession anyway. It is also a federal crime to sell federal zone land.

In November 2011 the PROFEPA delegate to Baja (Bernabe Esquer Peraz) issued a ruling that all of the land west of Paseo del Mar was either Federal Zone or Marine Zone (under water). This ended any doubt that the land could be acquired as private property by the Prescripcion Positiva of Ms Ortiz, even if the "PP" had been acquired legally.

So, in these two instances we see that the presence of Ms. Ortiz was contested at both properties she is claiming, BEFORE she accepted the Prescripcion Positiva. This is proof fraud was comitted by Ms. Ortiz in regards to condition #1.

... and we still have "PP" conditions 2,3, and 4 to go to prove the fraud by Ms. Ortiz was comprehensive.











[Edited on 3-7-2012 by Woooosh]

Well, first of all PROFEPA already made its written 15 page decision in November 2011- so although there are always two sides to the story- PROFEPA has already decided the facts and made their decision in this matter. We can discuss and debate their written decision though.

ZOFEMAT provided us with the original letter Ms. Ortiz wrote in April of 2011, requesting that our concesion be voided due to fraud in the application process. In that document Ms. Ortiz wrote she had owned and lived there for over 20 years:



We provided photos from 2005 that showed it vacant and vandalized, and 14 neighbors wrote letters supporting that. One example:



Had Ms. Ortiz paid for the property or the two properties (she is claiming two land parcels of a fraccionamiento: Lot #5 and Lot #6) she could have provide a payment receipt, family photos, or a land title for at least one of them. I think that is a telling point. How can she claim to own both the house and lot next to it (ued as the disabled access) when two different families lived in them before the ocean destroyed them both- and she clearly was not one of them? She went to court in 2010 to get the "Prescripcion Positiva" so clearly that was all she had. She also did not disclose in her letter to the ZOFEMAT Director General the method she was using to claim ownership ("PP")- only that it was all she had in the world and had been her full time home and in her family for 20 years. She asked in the letter that these two lots be granted to her as "her private property". That is why this comes down to a challenge of a squatter against federal zone land. No title or proof of payment by her for either property.

In 2005 the large area we applied was all sand and west of the abandoned house and lot next to it (Lot #5, Lot#6) she is claiming. The application map proves that:



The problem was exactly as I stated earlier- the existing maps were from 1976 and still showed an area between the street and the Federal Zone as Ganados al Mar (where lots #5 and #6 are). The Playa Bonita condo was going up in 2005 (in the gandos al mar) and we certainly did not want development to spread down the coastline in front of our house. Who would? No apology from us for that. We applied for the large concession area, knew the Gandos al Mar was there (but that we could not apply for it) and waited for the concession title to be awarded. In the two years that passed, Ms. Ortiz showed up and those two years did no one a favor- to be sure. We have saved all our e-mails from her about the house being abandoned when she arrived and us offering to include that land in our concession if PROFEPA ever gave her a hard time about being there. Our concession was eventually granted in 2008 and, because PROFEPA had moved the line in those two years a little more to east towards the street, our concession was now over half of "her" lot which she had already fenced and began making unpermitted improvements on. She attempted to fence the beach access to the second lot, and had put a "private property" sign on it. We ordered her to remove the sign and to allow pedestrian access and she did. (She had still not been there long enough (5 years) to get the Prescipcion Positiva at that point).

This part is interesting: In 2009 someone fenced the part of the beach in front of our house and put a "For Sale" sign on it. Thinking it was part of our concession (concession titles have only the map co-ordinates so we really didn't know what exact area had been given to us) , we filed a denuncia with PROFEPA and Bernabe Esquer Peraz, the PROFEPA Baja delegate personally came to investigate. He showed us where our concession really was and we were not pleased that it was the area by Ms. Ortiz. We had intentionally applied for area away from that, but that is not what was granted in the title. When Bernabe asked us where we thought our concession was (we were only granted about 381m2 of the 1355m2 we had applied for), we told him that because the ocean water now came over the seawall into the street- that we thought we were awarded a three meter strip one hundred meters long (the top of the seawall basically). I produced a photo of the water coming over the seawall and touching our property. He asked that we sign and date that photo. That is the 2009 event that moved the FMZ line all the way to the street, but no the exact picture we signed:



The PROFEPA delegate himself did the investigation and moved the line. No shenanigans. Once he moved the line, the ganados al mar was gone. Our concession automatically moved to the street with it. So, we have the same PROFEPA delegate who personally investigated our denuncia making the final 15 page decision on this case two years later.

It is 100% absolutely true that when Ms. Ortiz "landed" on the property it was not in the Federal Zone. It is also true that with no land title or taxes being paid by her on either property (Lot #5 or Lot#6) there was no one legally to notify when the federal zone line did move.

Even with all this, we did not act on having Ms. Ortiz removed until we were ordered to do so by the Baja Jefe de ZOFEMAT who has his office right here in Villas del Mar. Mr. Villarreal told us if she was on our concession it was our contractual obligation to have her removed (condition of the title) and we could be prosecuted if we did not do so. So what choice did we have but to follow the course of action he told us to- go the PGR.

There is more complexity to this and I'm sure you'll have more questions for me once Tila gives them to you. Please just keep the conversation civil and I will tell you whatever you want to know and post whatever documents you want to see. We would do the same with her- but she was never interested in sharing her documents or talking about it with us.

It is a good story Joe. That is why we made the videos. It is also why Zeta magazine has come to our house to interview us and request documents.

[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

Baja real estate advice? Don't do it!

I also want to add this whole mess is NOT the fault of Tila Ortiz or us. It is clearly the fault of PROFEPA/ZOFEMAT/SEMARNAT but they have told both of us this is a personal battle between us while they sit back and watch. They are making us two fight it out and for that they are wrong.

SEMARNAT/PROFEPA/ZOFMAT gave us none of the area we requested in the concession application. NONE. They sat on the application for two years and then awarded us the area over Lot #5 and #6 which had been the "Ganados al Mar" we were told we cold not apply for. They reserve the right to adjust your application map- and they did so. Why? Who knows. They did not tell us what they did, or offer show us what they adjusted on the concession map. It is true what Ortiz says that there was a building and foundations on the area they awarded us- so it is not "ornato." But that doesn't make it intentional fraud on our part as she claimed in her letter to SEMARNAT. We didn't even know until the PROFEPA delegate Bernabe told us in 2009. We didn't like it either. We had intentionally applied for the area west and south from there so we would not have a conflict with her or anyone. We just wanted to stop more construction from moving south down the beach in front of us. When ZOFEMAT/PROFEPA/SEMARNAT issues you a concession THEY are the ones who are supposed to make sure it is correct. To make us go back and remove the squatter Ortiz was wrong. That is their job and 100% their fault- but they will never admit it.

We did tell the inspector General we did not mind if they took the piece of our concession under the squatter Ortiz house (but not the other lot #6) and give it to her. But they cannot grant it to her as her "private property" because it is Federal Zone now and I doubt she wants to just protect it. She has already offered the land she claims (Lot#5 and Lot#6) for sale for $199K (claiming she had the legal land title) in March 2010- so the reason she wants it designated as "her private property" is simply to sell it. There is noting really wrong with that- except she was too late- it's gone:



We also told ZOFEMAT/SEMARNAT/PROFEPA if they were to cancel our concession based on the fact the concession area they awarded us did not match the application or area we applied for, we would re-apply. Because the water comes over the seawall and touches our property we are still #1 in line for it all should we have to re-apply. The Prescripcion Positiva held by Tila Ortiz can't legally allow them to grant her anything at this point. Only the legal land owner could claim it ahead of us, and that person does not exist. We are still waiting for a hearing date if they decide to go that route, but considering the mistake was theirs and Zeta Magazine will attend the hearing with us- I doubt it will happen.

What PROFEPA did in their 15 page decision was cover over the mistakes made by them and SEMARNAT/ZOFEMAT by just saying all the land west of the seawall is now Federal or Marine Zone and is already in a concession- ours. It rids them of the whole problem.

She's not the biggest victim if this though. Nor are we. The owners of Playa Bonita condos are. They built a gorgeous $5 Million USD building on that same "Ganados al Mar" three lots north of Ortiz and now can do almost nothing with it. Someone gave them the green light to build, but once they were done the land under is now Federal or Marine zone too. That did not stop them from trying to sell it to US investors last year claiming they had the clear land title and title insurance (when NO title exists at all), but we Nomads contacted PROFEPA and stopped the sale:



We don't want the house. It's a modular house and she can pull it anywhere she wants. We just want the beach to be sand for people to enjoy and for there to be room for lifeguards, residents and tourists to walk past on the beach. Just like the our video says.


[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

You just can't make a point without attacking? Please try harder. I stand by that statement- I also said in the very next sentence there was nothing wrong with that- just that it slows the legal process down. You running a super-PAC campaign or something?

Tila hates "gringo's". I do not know why. I certainly do not hate Mexicans. The first thing she yelled out when the Police Captain asked a question about me was "But he's a gringo!". I told her "Gringos are good here senorita". Her friend popped in with "He's a queer". So I mentioned to him that Hugo Torres, Hank Rhon and Bejamin Felix Arellnao are all alleged to be gay (and we have friends who have entertained at Hank's parties)- so what's the problem? The Captain laughed and clearly was amused by my sense of humor and candor.

Tila Ortiz Maldonado works for the California School System for the Eastside Union School System in Lancaster. She currently lives and pays property taxes in Sun City, CA (another reason her "PP" is fraudulent). Squatting is a financial hobby for her and how she makes extra cash. Nothing wrong with that- but in this case PROFEPA, not me - has said she missed the mark. All she has lost is time- she didn't pay for a thing as far as I can tell. (sound familiar?)

I hope you do a good job investigating this. I don't care who your sources are really, I speak the truth. The man that does cable TV shows in English here in Rosarito is a Nomad and has already posted that he "enjoyed talking to Tila" and thought the people she associated with were harmless. After I started sending him the documentation I also offer you he wrote back and said he wanted to do a story about this battle. I said "NO". The point of us doing the Beach Fitness Trail was to create a positive thing for Rosarito Beach. I asked him to wait until the Beach Fitness Trail was open and then do a pro-Baja story on it. I also told him I hope to add a "Dog Beach" next because that would be good for tourism too. But you think I hate all things Mexico and Mexican , huh?



Tila Ortiz is very very good at deceiving and manipulating people and never offers any documentation or proof of anything. She is a pro at it. In all my years in the casino business I have never run into a character like her- and I really thought I had seen it all. She has not one Mexican friend in the neighborhood because she doesn't need them and does not intend to stay here- she just wants to sell the land and get out. She hangs out with deportees and drug dealers because it is easy to turn them against us. She turned them against us and used the local police to make it through five years to get her squatter's title ("PP"). She even claims I pushed her to the ground and tried to kill her with a hammer! The truth is the established Mexicans in the area know she is squatter trying to sell their beach and want nothing at all to do with her. That's why they wrote the letters of support for us they did. They said we are the first people to do something good for the neighborhood and are blown away that we are doing all this. The local Mexicans (and most deportees actually) like us and after being here so many years they know us by our actions- not her words. The only one she has been successful with is an American tatooed skinhead drug dealer named Harlan Pankau- who is seen threatening us in the video after she sent him over to our house. Here's a photo of Harlan with Tila- and his rap sheet:





Please let me know what additional information or facts you need for your "investigation". Keep it factual and civil I will continue spending time responding. Thanks.


[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

Before I get to the technical real estate aspects of your real estate fight Woooosh. Can you answer me this:

Did you get into a physical fight with Harlan the person in that picture you provided below?

Did you at any time get into a physical fight with Ms Ortiz, and either hit or push Ms Ortiz a women?

Woooosh have you ever verbally assaulted Ms Ortiz with the kind of words we can't write down on "Baja Nomads." Woooosh have you tried to intimidate Ms Ortiz with your five dogs or have you noticed if Ms Ortiz felt intimated by your five dogs? ( now I owned a Lab and Golden Retrieve before, and know at most those type of dogs will lick you to death, but people who never owned those type of dogs do sometimes fear those retrievers because they can be pretty big dogs, and they do have loud barks)

So what happened Woooosh on the physical side of this dispute? It seems like you already anticipated that I would ask about a physical altercation between you, and Ms Ortiz. I wonder why you first brought it up?

Did you Woooosh ever do any time in a Mexican jail for fighting, with Ms Ortiz or any friend or neighbor of Ms Ortiz who perhaps tried to help her with her legal fight against you Wooosh? Wooosh did the local police ever put you in back of their patrol car for any reason related to your legal case and that includes fighting? Did you ever have to see a local judge because of any physical alteration relating or extending from this real estate dispute.


Woooosh did you throw against this vato, and take the fight to the ground?:



[Edited on 3-9-2012 by JoeJustJoe]

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe Before I get to the technical real estate aspects of your real estate fight Woooosh. Can you answer me this: 1.) Did you get into a physical fight with Harlan the person in that picture you provided below? 2.) Did you at any time get into a physical fight with Ms Ortiz, and either hit or push Ms Ortiz a women? Woooosh have you ever verbally assaulted Ms Ortiz with the kind of words we can't write down on "Baja Nomads." Woooosh have you tried to intimidate Ms Ortiz with your five dogs or have you noticed if Ms Ortiz felt intimated by your five dogs? ( now I owned a Lab and Golden Retrieve before, and know at most those type of dogs will lick you to death, but people who never owned those type of dogs do sometimes fear those retrievers because they can be pretty big dogs, and they do have loud barks) So what happened Woooosh on the physical side of this dispute? It seems like you already anticipated that I would ask about a physical altercation between you, and Ms Ortiz. I wonder why you first brought it up? Did you Woooosh ever do any time in a Mexican jail for fighting, with Ms Ortiz or any friend or neighbor of Ms Ortiz who perhaps tried to help her with her legal fight against you Wooosh? Wooosh did the local police ever put you in back of their patrol car for any reason related to your legal case and that includes fighting? Did you ever have to see a local judge because of any physical alteration relating or extending from this real estate dispute. Woooosh did you throw against this vato, and take the fight to the ground?: [Edited on 3-9-2012 by JoeJustJoe]

You go Perry Mason! Quite the cross examination! LOL

Well Joe, this has nothing to do with the real estate side of the case- but let's go through it one buy one. I've got time to respond and obviously Tila's attention. Obviously she has no questions for you relating to the real estate topic so she is doing what she always does to garner sympathy for failing as a squatter- saying I used violence against her. This is exactly how she has gotten the American skinheads and deportee drug dealers to support her. Poor little her against the big bad "Gringo" who is trying to steal her lifelong house of 20 years from her. Poor little 200 pound me! You already know that part of her story is a lie- you read it from her own writing. So let' see if you fall for the rest too... Like I said, she is a true piece of work- a master manipulator. But actually Joe- I believe you will finally see through her.

We have two open PGJE cases against Otila Maldonado Ortiz, she has never filed one against us or she certainly would have given you that case number. We have been letting her make the mistakes (since being ordered by SEMARNAT in 2010 to have her removed "despojo" from the concession). We are doing it the correct, legal way, step by step and have made no mistakes ( but with no results either due to her many friends in the police and the local courts). If I had acted with violence against her- you can be sure she would have filed charges and given you that case number!

"1.) Did you get into a physical fight with Harlan the person in that picture you provided below?"

This case is still open at the PGJE. It is case number 712/10/207/AP against Otila Maldonado Ortiz and Harlan Pankau Jr.



I did not get into a physical fight with the man in the photo with the rap sheet, Harlan. I would be dead in a NY minute. Tila Ortiz sent him from her house to threaten my family (as shown in the photo below taken from one of our videos). A man she did not know was a Rosarito auxiliary policeman was also inside her house. Tila was peeking out the curtains while Harlan was walking to my house. My elderly mother in law was preparing Cabrillo in the kitchen at the time and in the video Harlan is pointing up at us in the second floor kitchen. When the police office turned to leave Tilas house to help us right away, she held the policeman's arm and asked him to wait. I was not there, but the policeman testified he then pushed past her and went outside to follow Harlan (a convicted wife beater). He immediately called his police dispatch from his cell phone. While Harlan was threatening us verbally the policeman signaled to us (we were watching from the upper window at Harlan and the policeman in disbelief) to stay inside for safety. The police did come and went directly to their friend Tila's house. (This is how she stalled for four years to get the squatter title). Photo Harlan Pankau threatening me and my family. BTW: This is Harlan's favorite video and is on his facebook page:



The police officer who was inside Tila's house, followed Harlan, called for the police back-up and signaled for us all to stay inside for safety was given an award by the city of Rosarito for protecting our family:



"2.) Did you at any time get into a physical fight with Ms Ortiz, and either hit or push Ms Ortiz a women?"

A petite 200 pound woman- really? What are you Perry Mason? LOL

On two occasions we had contact, but neither was a physical fight. The first time was a night when her boyfriend "Eduardo" called my partner (the concession holder) names (same ones we can't repeat) and then hit him. My partner hit back once, and is tough enough for a hairdresser- but that's another story. I pushed my partner aside and beat the crap out of Eduardo and was on top of him banging his head against the pavement. Someone reached between us to break up the fight and I bit down on that arm as hard as I could. It tasted like crap so I assume it was Tila's. She did not call the police because it was her boyfriend Eduardo who started the physical confrontation. We didn't call the police because we were too busy celebrating Eduardo being beat up by a hairdresser. LOL This is Eduardo. Quite the catch huh? Trust me, he was that ugly before I beat the crap out of him.



The second incident is much more complicated and incorporates most of your other cross examination questions. It occurred when Ms. Ortiz removed the legally posted concession sign with a pair of wire cutters in one hand and a hammer in the other. I was armed with a camera. When I saw her taking down the concession sign I went outside and told her what she was doing was a federal crime and was destruction of my personal property. I started taking photos of her doing it:



She turned to me with the sharp wire cutters in one hand and the hammer in the other:



Afraid she would cut me more by mistake than on purpose, when she turned to confront me I twisted the wire cutters from her hand and then tossed them into her yard. She continued back at the sign with the hammer but was reaching too high and was not able to do it. Since she had already damaged the sign- I told her to step aside and I walked back over and tore the rest of the sign off myself to keep it for evidence. I then went home and she went into her yard. The police came and we all agreed to go to the police station. I drove myself. When we got to the station we had the conversation with the Captain at the police station I mentioned in the earlier post (the "He's a Gringo!", "He's a Queer" one). I had the sign with me and I insisted it was our right to have posted it there on the telephone pole that is on our concession and that she had no right to remove it. She claimed she did not know the area was Federal Zone (seriously). Since neither of us would back down, we were BOTH transported to the PGJE in Popotla by police car and BOTH put into holding cells. Tila tripped on the curb going to the police car and fell hard and hurt herself. I yelled for them to call a vet, but they called an ambulance instead. In the end, she went to the PGJE in a police car too I believe. Tila claimed I tried to kill her by pushing her down and trying to hit her in the head with the hammer. She brought Harlan Pankau as her witness because he had been sitting in his yard across the street when the sign-coming-down incident happened (although he was too far away to see clearly and later admitted he never even saw the yellow clippers in her hand). Well, Harlan the convicted wifebeater speaks ZERO Spanish and had no idea what she was accusing me of, but went along with the story. My lawyer came and got me out right away. I was home before she was. There is video of the event from my security cameras. Had adrenaline not been rushing through my veins I would have thought to bring the cops into the house to replay the video. And had I known a confrontation was going to take place I would have wiped the water drops from my cameras. The resulting video is very hard to see, but is posted on YouTube. Although it is hard to make out the details- what you will NOT see is what she claimed happened- that I pushed her to the ground and tried to kill her with the hammer. Another important note: Do you really think the convicted wife-beater Harlan would have allowed me to do what she is accusing me of while he was right there watching? Nope. Me either.

Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZcpUQzu7hM

My dogs have never been near her- although they have all their shots just in case she bites them. Yeah, I've called her names- right after Eduardo said he was going to get a gun and kill me. Can you image what she would have gotten away with had I not had these cameras to show the truth? The concession is "our property." We pay for it and we have every right to aim the cameras at what is happening on it. She has cameras too.

She does not care who or how many people she takes down with her in her selfish bid to make $199K. Well- no chance of making that now. It was important to post she is actively employed, paying CA property taxes and a current resident of CA to prove her Perscripcion Positiva is fraudulent. You can't live two places full time at the same time- can you? She said that little white house was her only home and all she had in the world- didn't she? Wait until you see her self-incriminating e-mails. I'm sure she is glad she became a Nomad about now... lol

Tomorrow: Who are these local police. Ministerial Police and PGJE court people who are helping Tila Ortiz Maldonado? (with some very interesting photos her important friends won't be pleased to see posted online- although Zeta will be thrilled to see them). Her fault, not mine. She brought it here though... and you said she was smart.


[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

"All we did was apply for a concession to protect the beach and look what we ended up with."

Yeah, and I bet ya never in a million years considered JOe as being relevant in this case HUH !!

Maybe this individual has hired JOe for a little PR ... might be something ya need to rule out, as nothing surprises me anymore ...

Continue to request "documentation" to support the other side... either it is present or it is not ... if not, well then guess what ... nada

And JOe should know how to post it ... if he receives it from "his" source ...

Believe your source on this is known.... not sure with the other side... at this time.

tic. tic. tic. Take your time our newest investigative reporter. She will send or show you nothing, she never has to anyone. All she will try to do is pick at my response above and continue her distraction by claiming we are the violent ones. Truth be told- the two fights with Eduardo were the first fight I have been into since a Hockey game at Denver University in 1974. Not my thing, but I will defend the ones I love without excuse.

What the posts above absolutely do prove is that her squatter's title "Prescripcion Positiva" is fraudulent because they all show her presence was not non-violent, nor was it uncontested by us.

We never posted the completed video in English because we didn't want to make this a "why not to move to Baja" video. That video in English you posted the link to was used by Nomads who helped me fine tune the content. The longer video you posted with the shirtless skinhead Harlan threatening our house has all the different camera angles, one after the other. You can see the off duty policeman follow Harlan and then sit on the seawall to call dispatch. It also shows one of Harlans partners, Chris walking by the policeman and overhearing him calling dispatch. Thanks for posting it. Sorry about my parrots squawking on the soundtrack.

Here's is a photo of Chris passing drugs to a buyer on the street. Last year Chris was penniless renting out umbrellas on the beach- this year he drives that nice white Mercedes. Must be mucho money the umbrella business, or he is what the photos show he is:





[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

This would make a great novela.

JoeJustJoe, Hang in there! Wooosh bit the lady! Good grief! Did she bite him back, scratch him? A real "cat fight". All too typical when dealing with real estate in Baja.

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Originally posted by Cypress JoeJustJoe, Hang in there! Wooosh bit the lady! Good grief! Did she bite him back, scratch him? A real "cat fight". All too typical when dealing with real estate in Baja.

no worries , I've had my shots! And she is certainly no lady. Any fool who get's in the middle of a fist fight their boyfriend starts is certainly taking their chances. It was late at night and pitch black on the street. I really had no idea whose arm it was, I was on top and the arm came in over my shoulder. All I saw was a big chubby forearm in my face and chomped down. If I had known it was her arm they would be calling her "Lefty Ortiz" now!

You won't hear anything factual about the real estate side of this from Joe- because Tila Ortiz (Angel on Nomads) isn't going to tell him anything more or present any documents.

tic... tic... tic...

[Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

Have been in a brawl or two. Can understand. You do what you have to do. But? This is about Baja real estate. Real estate in Baja reminds me of a street fight. You never know how it's gonna turn out, but you can bet your last dollar the neighborhood crowd is gonna come out on top.

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Originally posted by Woooosh Quote: Originally posted by Cypress JoeJustJoe, Hang in there! Wooosh bit the lady! Good grief! Did she bite him back, scratch him? A real "cat fight". All too typical when dealing with real estate in Baja. no worries , I've had my shots! And she is certainly no lady. Any fool who get's in the middle of a fist fight their boyfriend starts is certainly taking their chances. It was late at night and pitch black on the street. I really had no idea whose arm it was, I was on top and the arm came in over my shoulder. All I saw was a big chubby forearm in my face and chomped down. If I had known it was her arm they would be calling her "Lefty Ortiz" now! You won't hear anything factual about the real estate side of this from Joe- because Tila Ortiz (Angel on Nomads) isn't going to tell him anything more or present any documents. tic... tic... tic... [Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

Been bitten a time or two. Ouch!

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Originally posted by mtgoat666 Quote: Originally posted by Woooosh Quote: Originally posted by Cypress JoeJustJoe, Hang in there! Wooosh bit the lady! Good grief! Did she bite him back, scratch him? A real "cat fight". All too typical when dealing with real estate in Baja. no worries , I've had my shots! And she is certainly no lady. Any fool who get's in the middle of a fist fight their boyfriend starts is certainly taking their chances. It was late at night and pitch black on the street. I really had no idea whose arm it was, I was on top and the arm came in over my shoulder. All I saw was a big chubby forearm in my face and chomped down. If I had known it was her arm they would be calling her "Lefty Ortiz" now! You won't hear anything factual about the real estate side of this from Joe- because Tila Ortiz (Angel on Nomads) isn't going to tell him anything more or present any documents. tic... tic... tic... [Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh] last time i bit someone in a fight, i was probably in preschool. a while back i had a time teaching my toddler to not bite her sibling. how often do y'all have brawls at the handicap ramp?

The last fight I had in life before moving to Rosarito Beach was in 1974 during a hockey game at Denver University. Almost 40 years. My nephews were far from impressed with my performance. Apparently you are supposed to knee them in the face once you have the handful of hair. I think they watch too much MMA.

If you want to help the disabled in Rosarito Beach get better beach access - feel free to make a PayPal donation goat:

http://www.woooosh.com/save_the_beach_fund

"All too typical when dealing with real estate in Baja."

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Originally posted by Woooosh Quote: Originally posted by Woooosh So when are you doing the investigation of why Tila is still there Joe? When is she going to show you ONE document that shows she ever owned either lot? How does she explain trying to sell it fraudulently without a title? How does she explain how she got the squatter title in three years instead of five and met none of the other three conditions? How does she explain the lies in her letter to the Director General? She took this property by fraud and by manipulating others. The police bugged out as soon as they saw through her lies and distortions- and gave us their full support. Come back with one or two of those answers Joe. tic. tic. tic. Take your time our newest investigative reporter. She will send or show you nothing, she never has to anyone. All she will try to do is pick at my response above and continue her distraction by claiming we are the violent ones. Truth be told- the two fights with Eduardo were the first fight I have been into since a Hockey game at Denver University in 1974. Not my thing, but I will defend the ones I love without excuse. What the posts above absolutely do prove is that her squatter's title "Prescripcion Positiva" is fraudulent because they all show her presence was not non-violent, nor was it uncontested by us. We never posted the completed video in English because we didn't want to make this a "why not to move to Baja" video. That video in English you posted the link to was used by Nomads who helped me fine tune the content. The longer video you posted with the shirtless skinhead Harlan threatening our house has all the different camera angles, one after the other. You can see the off duty policeman follow Harlan and then sit on the seawall to call dispatch. It also shows one of Harlans partners, Chris walking by the policeman and overhearing him calling dispatch. Thanks for posting it. Sorry about my parrots squawking on the soundtrack. Here's is a photo of Chris passing drugs to a buyer on the street. Last year Chris was penniless renting out umbrellas on the beach- this year he drives that nice white Mercedes. Must be mucho money the umbrella business, or he is what the photos show he is: [Edited on 3-9-2012 by Woooosh]

Sadly Joe, your only "speed" is stuck on stupid. You just can't seem to fire on all four cyclinders (you'll never be a V-6 or V-8 Joe). So now you no longer want to continue playing Perry Mason? Now you say it is not fair to try this case on the internet? Then you have the guervos to ask me even more questions? You may not even be running on three cylinders.

Clearly Tila (Angel) hung you out to dry. I told you this is her MO but you fell for her "poor little scared me" story hook, line and sinker. She spreads lies and uses druggie and idiots like you to surround an insulate her. She's conned everyone, even the police- until they eventually "see what she is" (The Rosarito police Captains words after viewing the video, not mine). I told you she would show you nothing, and she didn't and she won't- because she doesn't have anything besides the fraudulent "Prescripcion Positiva" to show you: that is useless on the Federal Zone. But I'll post it here just so you have everything she does. I'll also post the "technical notes" for our concession where it says the "Federal Zone is inalienable and inpercriptable". THAT, is case closed- but PROFEPA already closed it last November. She just won't go away... Maybe Cypress' wife can tell us when she will.

This is what a Precripcion Positiva (squatters title) looks like:


In the Judicial notes "Nota Juridica" it states the Federal Zone is inalienable and inperscriptable (can't get it by squatting on it):



In case you doubt the concession line for DGZF-832/08 has ben moved all the way into Paseo del Mar, here is the concession map for that section:



Curious about that red dot? It is the marking location in the street that shows the Federal Zone Line well into Paseo del Mar. In the photo below, Tila Ortiz is being shown that exact point by the two men with her.



This is the actual series of 2009 photos which prompted PROFEPA Delagate for Baja- Bernabe Peraz Esquer to move the Federal Zone all the way to Paseo del Mar. In his Nov 2011 decision, he said some of this area may be "Zona Marina" (underwater). We have formally requested a measurement to determine which it is:







NOW, it is case closed Joe...

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by Woooosh]

Who ever said this was a "court of law" ...

However, if one makes a statement and wishes to support it with "factual documents" what's the big woof ...

This as YOU have asked others for "links" to support what they have posted....

Continue on ....

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by wessongroup]

I love the beech pictures Woooosh.

That's a nice " Registro Publico"copy you have there Woooosh.

I'm beginning to think you don't have a Mexican lawyer, except for whatever free advice you are getting around here.

BTW Woooosh where are your documents? I would like to see your copy of your fraudulent concession, and your appeal for the revocation of the concession.

But the main thing I want to know is why is Ms Ortiz still in that house you claim she is squatting in? Why can't you get her out if you have such a great legal case, and all these spy photos?

I'm still at lost why you care so much about Tila Ortiz and that house across a street from yours? She isn't trying to kick you out of your house. It's you you wants her house just so the handicap and dogs can have their own beach.

You know Wooosh you sound like another rich guy who is concerned somebody might block his ocean view. I could care less about your ocean view, and I could care less about a dog beach with all kinds of dog poop. I even doubt you're rich, and no doubt you inherited money from your parents when they died separately a few years ago, and I bet you're running through that money.

So while we wait for you to show your legal copies regarding this real estate fight. I want to return to the side issues, of violence, beating of women, and drugs.

I understand Wooosh your mota supplier for the last 5 years has been the ex owner of "Tequila." Is that why you have all those cameras Woooosh? Are you also concerned about the drug competition of your main supplier?

There is a lot of hypocrisy with you Wooosh. You take pictures of Mexicans in the streets and call them gang-bangers and drug dealers, yet you and your spouse Alonzo have your own long time drug supplier.

You Wooosh talk about Harland the Mexican-American without a shirt in your pictures who is friends with Ms Ortiz and tells you to leave her alone, and he also tells you to stop taking pictures of his kids with your video equipment. You Woooosh call Harlan a wife beater! You Woooosh have called McFez a wife beater too! All this is based on dubious criminal records supplied and photoshopped by Fulano.

What about you Woooosh? You have admitted to a physical altercation with Ms Ortiz. In the video you supplied Woooosh you can clearly see you confronted her, and then assaulted her claiming it was her who was wild-eyed and threatening. It's you Woooosh who continue to harass , scare, and frighten Ms Ortiz. It's a shame she can't get a restraining order against you Wooosh.( I don't think Mexico offers "RO" to their citizens?) But you're scared too Wooosh aren't you? When is the last time you got out of the house Woooosh?

How is the ocean view Woooosh?

Oh one more question Wooosh. When you were in that Mexican jail over the fighting. Did you promise to cancel your legal fight and concession against Ms Ortiz in exchange that she dropped the charges against you? Did you go back on your word Woooosh?



[Edited on 3-10-2012 by JoeJustJoe]

To the few who think they know better that the many and keep trying to dictate what can or cannot be written in here excluding Baja Nomad we have something to say to you...STFU!!!

ANOTHER TIDBIT ABOUT DAVID ELINVESTIG8R M

Wooosh, Keep it civil? You took this south with all your un-called-for name-calling BS. Maybe your house has a few ghosts that are affecting your mental processes. Just a thought?

I had a great walk! See the next post!

But I will answer that one simple question first Joe. Did I try to buy that property? I hate that it takes me an hour to knock down one claim and many nomads have suggested I no longer reply to you at all. But, here goes. The last time. Your smoking gun is a blank Joe. As usual, you shoot blanks.

Before Ortiz arrived, there had been "For Sale" spray painted on that house and they were asking $30K for it I think. The people selling it were also squatters and had no paperwork (I previously told you my worker lived in that house and was raised there- so he knows the true history of it). So no one was interested in buying it. If she did buy it- it was from a person without a title to it which is why she went through the "Prescripcion Positiva" process to create one. If that's what she did it was risky, she took her chances, and lost to the ocean- not me.

When Ms. Ortiz arrived in October of 2006 we had already applied for our concession but it had not been awarded to us yet. We knew the vacant house she claimed was in the "Ganados Al Mar" because we had our application map. We had no idea of the legal land title of the house, but with the Playa Bonita condo tower going up fast four lots north on that same "gandos al mar" of our fraccionamiento I instinctively knew things weren't right there and anything was possible.

Tila and I exchanged e-mails right after she arrived. In fact, she was a friend in our house at one time. The house was vacant and abandoned and we had nailed the doors closed to keep the druggies and prostitutes out.

We exchanged e-mails with Tila to keep her updated on the house. Here's is the e-mail exchange (this is also in our SEMARNAT presentation and PGJE case). They are self explanatory.

BTW: Her arrival Date is proven right here at October 2006 and the "feche" date on her Perscripcion Positiva (I posted above) is November 13, 2009. That is three years to get something that by law must take 5 years. That proves the fraud with her own words and actions.

Read through this e-mail exchange that was part of our presentation against her.



[Edited on 3-10-2012 by Woooosh]

My walk with the dogs was amazing. I am elated! I was thinking I would have to return to this keyboard and post damaging photos of the important people protecting Tila. Now I do not have to. During my walk I found out what is going on and why they have not done anything to her since we won the PROFEPA decision. The local and state people who are her friends are delaying her forced departure, but the Feds from Mexico City are coming soon to clear her off the land.

Since the Mexican revolution, the government is very leary of taking private property away from anyone. It is distasteful to them and it is the last thing they want to do to anyone- whether the person they take it from is right or wrong. No one wants to do it and no one wants to be the one to do it. Tila has important friends in very high places. They know she has lost, and committed fraud, but they don't want to be the ones to evict her- and they no longer have to be...

THE ROSARITO MALECON PROJECT HAS BEGUN! (PROJECTO NORTE)

On my walk I noticed construction work on the north side of the condo tower. Today they were piling small boulders on the edge near the beach (to put into metal cages as a foundation). I had been seeing activity there for few weeks but was not sure what it was. Today I noticed they had chalked out an area to extend the under-street storm drain further west towards the water. They are extending that drain so the road and the Malecon can be built over top of it. I talked with the workers at two locations. One group was building cages for the rocks- I teased them that they must be fishing for some very large lobsters with traps that size. They confirmed the cages were to hold rocks. We talked about the Malecon Project being good for jobs and tourism. They opened up after a while of us talking about how badly Rosarito needed the construction jobs and tourism. They had the plans for the Projecto Norte too (Malecon). I then went to the guys chalking the beach for the drain extension and had a longer talk with them. Same plans and we talked for while about it and the positive impact for Rosarito.

So the bottom line is that the Rosarito Malecon is coming, and fast. They are going to make the turn south where the storm drain extension is and then continue Paseo del Mar all the way south with the Rosarito Malecon on the ocean side (of course). They will break down the wall the Playa Bonita condo people put up to block the street (and I harped about in my video) and continue working south. There are several houses beside Tila's that have to go and they said it will be distasteful to them, but necessary. So I don't think her friends need to do anything to force her out any sooner and they won't have to be the bad guys who do it- it will just happen as part of the construction project. That is the most logical reason she is still there.

Tilas house is modular and she can tow it across the street next to us and have a better location. If she's smart, she will buy that lot and do it quickly and still come out ahead financially.















[Edited on 3-10-2012 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by Woooosh]

You and the dogs. And you and the....

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Originally posted by Cypress You and the dogs. And you and the....

Hey Cypress- ask your psychic wife how many fingers I am holding up!

Say Woooosh... is the "Condo" leaning to the west ??? or were you tilting your camera...

Looks like another nice day by the beach ...

"Everybody here knows there is not a large Mexican population of handicapped Mexican wanting beach access."

Now that's a bold statement ... IMHO

Or, do you feel there is a set number that must be met to allow for handicap access to beaches ... just asking..

As I'm handicapped and would like to understand your thinking on this point...

Thanks in advance for your prompt response to the "question" posed ...

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by wessongroup]

Woooosh, You and the dogs and you and the dogs.

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Originally posted by Cypress Woooosh, You and the dogs and you and the dogs.

It was two fingers, peace.

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Originally posted by wessongroup Say Woooosh... is the "Condo" leaning to the west ??? or were you tilting your camera... Looks like another nice day by the beach ...

Wesson if you're talking about Wooosh's offer to drop his concession and legal real estate fight against Ms Ortiz.

I believe it was a verbal promise. It's also pretty hard to get a offer in writing while you're in jail. Besides Wesson I think your confusing the issue. Yes it's true you should always get things in writing especially with real estate contracts, but this wasn't really about an offer to buy and sell. It was an offer to drop the case in exchange for the other side to drop the charges.

I believe Woooosh went back on his word, but again it turns into a he said, she said thing.

It's also more of a character issue, and I'm finding out more and more about Woooosh's character.

Here is another tidbit that blown my mind out Woooosh. I know that Ms Ortiz believes Wooosh is racist and greedy, but I didn't know how bad.

I understand that Woooosh's roof was leaking and so Woooosh calls A local Mexican that fixes roofs. The roofer found the problem, and instead of letting the roofer fix the roof. Woooosh instead asked for instructions on how to fix the leaky roof himself and only paid the roofer 20 pesos for his effort!

My blood was boiling when my investigative work came up with this tidbid. Woooosh takes cheap to a new level!

If you know anything about leaking roofs. Half the battle is just finding the leak, and the other half is using your roofing knowledge patching it up. You really need an experience roofer to find and take care of your problem, or else the roof will leak again. I speak for personal experience with my own roof, and the thousands of dollars I spent to get the smalls leaks fixed. 20 pesos!!!!!Oh My GOD!

There is a picture on Wooosh's blog showing someone up on the roof making a repair, and it wasn't the roofer who was paid 20 peso, and so I'm pretty sure this is a true story.

[Edited on 3-10-2012 by JoeJustJoe]

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Originally posted by wessongroup "Everybody here knows there is not a large Mexican population of handicapped Mexican wanting beach access." Now that's a bold statement ... IMHO Or, do you feel there is a set number that must be met to allow for handicap access to beaches ... just asking.. As I'm handicapped and would like to understand your thinking on this point... Thanks in advance for your prompt response to the "question" posed ... [Edited on 3-10-2012 by wessongroup]

"You are an American and you cannot sign away any rights to a Federal Zone title held by Alonzo, even if you are married. Just sign the document and let’s get out of here.”

Pretty good point .. HUH !!

Nothing worse than a bad neighbor ...

And JOe, to exclude an opinion on the basis of "race and/or nationality" ... my, my, my ...

And I've had Mexican friends since the 4th grade ... plus on the 17th of this month is our 45th wedding anniversary, and my wife is a Mexican ... born in East L.A. ese dog !! .... "P" out

[Edited on 3-11-2012 by wessongroup]

Today's Posts Have Put Angel into Panic Mode … and The Mayor’s Office arrives!

Tonight you have a front row seat to the Federal Zone and Rosarito Beach corruption folks... and just when I thought I would make it through the day without endangering myself.

Apparently Angel (Tila Otiz Maldonado) is concerned or upset about something posted here today. She called her most powerful friend to her house this afternoon. He arrived in Rosarito Police vehicle P-0634, which is an umarked Ram truck assigned to the head of security detail for Mayor Javier Aquire Robles. His driver was with him.

The first time I noticed this man was back in January. He came to her house late one night with another man. Too late for business hours. He took Tila outside with a manilla file in his hand and read her the riot act. He would yell at her, point to the papers, gesture more at her and then yell at her more. She was crying and stretching out her sweater arms pulling them around her hands to comfort herself. She reached out several times and physically touched him- she actually begged him for help. It was pathetic- but very compelling to watch. He made believe he had a phone call and went to the door, called his friend to come outside, and left. (My best guess is our new PGR neighbor had “pushed” our federal case against Ortiz for us and El Jefe had the “despojos” (eviction papers) for Tila Ortiz in the file). The next morning El Jefe showed up at the old condo building next to Tila and served some legal papers. I was told by a neighbor the papers were to evict a person who had not paid rent in six months.

I will call this powerful white mustached Man who frequently wears a black cowboy hat-" El Jefe for now. Who is this man and what does he do? How is he helping her and why?

Here is El Jefe and Tila at her house today, the official truck parked at her house, the license plates of the truck (same truck and plates in January and today) , the Driver, El Jefe yelling at Tila in January with the file in hand and El Jefe serving eviction papers in January to a neighbor. Now, I die. (Doubtful. This is way too public now with thousands of viewers, The PROFEPA/ZOEMAT/SEMARNAT Director Generals in Mexico City and Zeta Magazine. I kinda hope the UT is following it too. Kinda.

(There is no invasion of privacy in the photos below. All but the last photo are within concession DGZF-832/08. We have every right, and the contractual obligation to monitor what happens on our current, valid and legal Federal Zone concession)

Tila Maldonado Ortiz (Angel) and "El Jefe" (today):


The Mayors personal security truck parked at Angel's house (today):


Close up of Official vehicle License Plate (today) P-0634 (the "P" is for Policia) :


The Driver of El Jefe (today):


EL Jefe making Tila cry and beg him for help (January):


El Jefe serving Eviction papers at old condo building (January):


[Edited on 3-11-2012 by Woooosh]

JOe, doesn't sound like Woooosh is an urban planner so much, rather as he wishes to insure that HIS concession be used in manner which affords individual's direct access to the 'Beach and/or HIS concession....

"Woooosh with his "concession", which is a quote from YOU .. One can only conclude that this is HIS concession !!!...

So you have stated it is his concession ... I don't see, at this time, there is any avenue of "legal redress" for this or any other legal entity on this particular "site", at this time.

I don't wish to see anyone loose their land, concession or to be injured physically or mentality over something like this ... much prefer a systematic investigation into the "history and use" of the "site" based on hard evidence developed through the investigate process, which supports the contentions made .. to the Court !! .... even if they are American ...

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Originally posted by wessongroup JOe, doesn't sound like Woooosh is an urban planner so much, rather as he wishes to insure that HIS concession be used in manner which affords individual's direct access to the 'Beach and/or HIS concession.... "Woooosh with his "concession", which is a quote from YOU .. One can only conclude that this is HIS concession !!!... So you have stated it is his concession ... I don't see, at this time, there is any avenue of "legal redress" for this or any other legal entity on this particular "site", at this time. I don't wish to see anyone loose their land, concession or to be injured physically or mentality over something like this ... much prefer a systematic investigation into the "history and use" of the "site" based on hard evidence developed through the investigate process, which supports the contentions made .. to the Court !! .... even if they are American ...

Life goes on. And this whole thing? Is a thing.

1) Conseguir un buen abogado.

Tila Ortiz Maldonado had her teaching license suspended and is not very good with kids. She won't be teacher of the year but probably good enough to teach Rosarito Police Spanglish.

Link to full document taking away her teaching certificate and branding any other certificate she may get for her lifetime: http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/commissioner/1990/0451090.DOC







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She's not retired Joe. But she has a twin I guess. She moved from Texas to California. Tila Ortiz started working at the Eastside Union School District on June 18, 2007, having come from the El Tejon Unified School District. She was supposed to be a full-time squatter in Rosarito Beach. Same Otila Oritz Maldonado. Our SEMARNAT presentation had already included her residential, employment and property tax history dating back to Texas.



http://www.eastside.k12.ca.us/pdf/board_minutes/2007/06-25-0...

[Edited on 3-12-2012 by Woooosh]