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Interesting news reports

wilderone - 8-11-2024 at 07:07 AM

I've been following Patrulla ever since the surfer murders. One of the latest reports is a big cartel-involvement arrest around Colonet. Also, a report of people "stranded" in Sierra San Pedro Martir.

https://www.facebook.com/Patrulla.646

David K - 8-11-2024 at 09:09 AM

Can you elaborate more about 'San Pedro Mártir'. Links perhaps? What happened up there?

mtgoat666 - 8-11-2024 at 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Can you elaborate more about 'San Pedro Mártir'. Links perhaps? What happened up there?


The link in wilderone’s post work fine. Click link, scoll down for story (not much to the story. A person was unhappy their guide would not move them during a storm, so they called someone to complain and perhaps request “rescue”)

AKgringo - 8-11-2024 at 10:04 AM

My Spanglish is not good enough to follow that thread.

mtgoat666 - 8-11-2024 at 10:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
My Spanglish is not good enough to follow that thread.


Fb has translate buttons below posts and comments. Easy peasy.

AKgringo - 8-11-2024 at 10:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
My Spanglish is not good enough to follow that thread.


Fb has translate buttons below posts and comments. Easy peasy.



I do not have a Facebook account, and could not find any buttons to click for a translation. I did manage to bring up a translation by right clicking on the "facebook" logo at the top left side of the page.

It does sound like someone is protesting that when they wanted to leave, the company responsible for their safety took responsibilty for their safety and said "Not yet!"

cupcake - 8-11-2024 at 02:36 PM

It can often be safer to wait for an improvement in conditions before descending.

Google translate provides this:

ENSENADA, BC.- Due to a strong storm, a family was trapped this Saturday in the Sierra de San Pedro Mártir National Park
It turned out that tonight a woman reported to the emergency line that they were stranded in the Sierra de San Pedro Mártir, in the south of Ensenada.
The woman indicated that they were trapped due to a strong storm, while the Total Adventure company, which transported them, refused to descend until conditions improved.
After this, they notified the Municipal Civil Protection Unit of Ensenada, an area in which they would coordinate with the Civil Protection of San Quintín.
Information in process.

David K - 8-12-2024 at 07:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Can you elaborate more about 'San Pedro Mártir'. Links perhaps? What happened up there?


The link in wilderone’s post work fine. Click link, scoll down for story (not much to the story. A person was unhappy their guide would not move them during a storm, so they called someone to complain and perhaps request “rescue”)


I did not see a link when I first read this post on my phone... Now, on my PC, I see it... and I also apreciate the other Nomads for their input.

Here is the English of the Facebook post:

>>>Family trapped in San Pedro Martir after strong storm
They reported that the company that moved them refused to support them

ENSRNADA, BC. - Because of a strong storm, a family was trapped this Saturday in the Sierra de San Pedro Martir National Park
Transcended that tonight a woman reported to the emergency line that they were stranded in the Sierra de San Pedro Martir, within the south of Ensenada.
The woman indicated they were trapped due to a severe storm, while Total Adventure, who moved them, refused to come down until conditions improved.
Following this, they notified the Municipal Civil Protection Unit of Ensenada, area in which they would coordinate with the Civil Protection of San Quintin.
Information in the process...<<<

HERE are some replies (translated for Nomads):

Borris Ñol
The best they could do is better stay in the reception area as they are prepared for such conditions and have supplies

Hugo Rangel
Everybody complaining about the company's shares... it's golden rule of anyone who knows about rough areas that the worst you can do in a natural event is to move unless someone is seriously injured, people are more likely to die if you try to walk through a natural event than if you stay still until I finish.

JL PV
Both the company and them were bad and the fact that they want to move (possibly without weather appropriate equipment) in the middle of a storm is stupid, you have to see the reasons why the company staff refused to move.
Remember that the return is pure downfall and possibly without proper expertise could be risky.

Amador Luis
Me too, in my pickup, I would wait until the weather gets better. The fainting caused by spontaneous thunderstorms on terrace can be a disaster.

Yolanda Granados Yanez
But for the safety of all you have to wait for the conditions to improve, the bad ones got, and you have to wait

DiianiSs López
The company is right, for the safety of all, it's better to stay alert until the weather improves and especially on those roads that many know how to get when it rains, it's a rampage and you run the risk of getting stuck halfway

Ale Lo
Why are they complaining?
Because the company is looking out for your safety?
Regardless of the complaints they are making. Who by the way want to solve everything by Facebook, wonder how it still works? Well for the people who do not go to the relevant department to present their complaint, demand or complaint

.. Ivonne Leon
Ale Lo If complaints have been made in the corresponding departments and to what I have understood have not been 1 or 2, already have several, however the authority still does nothing to close its tour operator, in the groups of campers knows that Marcos Tapia, owner total adventure is not reliable, complaints and experiences that have been had with total by Facebook can also help warn people who are not aware of this and looking to go to SPM or any other destination and encounter people like him, scammers.
Regarding that the company is looking out for their safety, it is also their responsibility to monitor the climate they will go to, so that from the beginning they do not endanger their campers.

..Ale Lo
Ivonne Leon this is weird but anyway.

..Tacho Rosas
Ivonne Leon sounded personal the thing, no one is a witch I have experience in camping and I assure you that those are adventures are not unprotected are not alone it's just a matter of enjoying the landscape patience and you will have a story to tell so younger we do not carry women but well I pull his will go!!! Beautiful Sunday.

..Ivonne Leon
Tacho Rosas is not personal, however I know several people who unfortunately fell into the scam of this person and enough with the simple fact of searching Total Adventure and encounter bad experiences and news in which they have been wrapped, they as "company" offer a supposed safe of a traveller (which they don't make valid). Be better than nothing which is to go enjoy nature, believe me I do and I also like camping a lot, however it is of utmost importance from a principle not to risk the life of other people, so in very important to take into account the environmental factors that are being exposed to and let them know to the people who hire them, one has knowledge that at these dates is rainy season in SPM and are not light rains as in the city, however also many people do not know that, it is not a matter of to be a witch or not, there are many applications with which you can see how you will be in the weather and thus avoid these kinds of situations, whether you cancel or rescheduled your dates.

..Tacho Rosas
Ivonne Leon Here is a metereology station nor with that they are attached to the weather relax if those people are not conformed there is Profeco or the MP for damage repair if there were them? And carry the agreement that is signed I also think that it stipulates the responsibilities of each person there. And if there's no bad bad to proceed.

4x4abc - 8-12-2024 at 09:11 AM

I found that it is not the translation capability of various apps - our Mexican friends (especially the ones in Baja) use language in a less structured way than we do. They can't get a point across. I have given up reading anything in Mexican Spanish, because I have not been able to make sense of their word vomit - even when I try really hard. Some of the news outlets are kinda OK, but far away from easy.

BajaNaranja - 8-12-2024 at 11:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
One of the latest reports is a big cartel-involvement arrest around Colonet.



I believe this is the Colonet cartel arrest item mentioned:

https://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=76013

surabi - 8-12-2024 at 01:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I found that it is not the translation capability of various apps - our Mexican friends (especially the ones in Baja) use language in a less structured way than we do. They can't get a point across. I have given up reading anything in Mexican Spanish, because I have not been able to make sense of their word vomit - even when I try really hard. Some of the news outlets are kinda OK, but far away from easy.


Actually, people in general seem to have forgotten how to communicate effectively, in any language.
A year ago I put up an ad looking for a housesitter. Got a lot of responses right away. At least 50% of them consisted of nothing more than "Hi. I saw your ad."

Another 25% hadn't troubled themselves to read the info provided, thinking I just needed someone to drop by once or twice a day to feed the cat.

Finally got an appropriate response- the guy introduced himself, said he had just gotten to town a week earlier, that he'd be happy to trade a free place to live for housesitting chores, said he had been housesitting in another part of Mexico, gave me the homeowner's name and phone number for a reference.


[Edited on 8-12-2024 by surabi]

4x4abc - 8-12-2024 at 08:18 PM

just a minute ago

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BajaNomad - 8-13-2024 at 06:37 AM

FWIW, if you click the timestamp of each post, you're then able to get a direct link for each individual post/story/etc one wants to share.

Examples...

Colonet drug bust:
https://www.facebook.com/Patrulla.646/posts/pfbid0yfycmbphut...

Tour group stuck during storm:
https://www.facebook.com/Patrulla.646/posts/pfbid0kUxff9YYXS...

fyi

Some of the sub-titles are equally ridiculous

AKgringo - 8-13-2024 at 07:19 AM

Watching a video that coverts the audio to sub-titles can be weirdly entertaining. On one I watched recently, a chainsaw was quoted as saying "the the the the the the the the the the". :?:

I wonder what the sub-titles would have been if the audio was also translated to Spanish?

[Edited on 8-13-2024 by AKgringo]