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Is the DNR fee now added to FMM fee for tourists?

David K - 11-13-2024 at 02:12 PM

Are they kidding???

https://bajanews.mx/noticias/32513/El-DNR-impuesto-a-extranj...

The DNR is a contribution that must be paid by foreigners who enter Mexico as tourists.

Since last Friday, users of the pedestrian crossing between the United States and Mexico, at the San Ysidro checkpoint at the so-called “East Gate,” reported a new measure implemented by the National Institute of Migration (INM). According to testimonies of users, immigration authorities began to charge without prior notice the Visitor's Fee (DNR) to foreigners, mainly Americans, who enter Mexico for tourism purposes.



This right, contemplated in the Federal Rights Law and the Immigration Law, stipulates the payment of a fee of 717.14 pesos for foreigners who do not carry out paid activities during their stay in Mexico. The measure surprised travelers, who reported that the INM installed filters to divert visitors to modules where they are questioned about the reason for their visit, while those who prove residency in Mexico pass without problems.



The DNR is a contribution that must be paid by foreigners who enter Mexico as tourists, for business, or for other purposes that do not involve paid activities. This measure applies to people who enter the country by land, air, or sea. According to the 2020 Paisano Guide, the DNR payment, which is updated every year, was 575 pesos at that time, and for the year 2023 it was set at 717.14 pesos.



There are exemptions to this fee, such as for those whose stay in Mexico is less than seven days if they entered by land, children under two years of age, diplomats, among others.



The DNR can be paid in different ways, including by requesting and paying the Multiple Immigration Form (FMM) through the National Institute of Migration (INM) website, electronically, or at bank branches and Banjercito modules. In certain cases, such as when entry is by air, the DNR fee is included in the cost of the plane ticket.



Those entering by land must make the payment before presenting their passport and FMM at the immigration modules to obtain the stamp of validity that confirms their legal entry into the country. According to the guide, it is recommended to bring a printed receipt of the payment made online or at a banking institution.



Some users who crossed the San Ysidro border crossing this weekend pointed out that the measure is only being applied to foreigners, while those with residency in Mexico do not face these new filters. Although the measure is backed by law, the lack of a formal announcement by the INM has generated confusion and long lines at the border crossing.



At this time, the INM has not issued an official statement to clarify the details or the reason for the sudden implementation of this measure, but the application of this migration quota seems to be in line with the regulations established in the Migration Law and the Federal Rights Law.

[Edited on 11-14-2024 by David K]

cupcake - 11-13-2024 at 02:30 PM

My understanding is/was that we (tourists) have always been paying the DNR fee, and that this is really what we were paying when we got our FMM's.

Now, if there is this DNR fee IN ADDITION to an FMM fee that will be collected, then that does seem like something new. If all we are doing now is paying a DNR fee, presenting the receipt for it to INM and then being given an FMM, then that would just seem like a new wrinkle in getting the FMM.

mtgoat666 - 11-13-2024 at 04:01 PM

Sounds like they are collecting the fmm fee from >7d visitors that are not asking for an fmm. Why not go ahead and get the fmm if staying >7d?



lencho - 11-14-2024 at 04:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

DNR fee now added to FMM fee for tourists:

Are they kidding???

Did you just make up that it's an additional charge added to the FMM fee?

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything in that article to indicate that.

Sounds to me like they're just starting to more strictly enforce already-existing laws. Likely a response to indications of upcoming stricter U.S. policcies.

I just had Migra check everyone on a bus between Campeche and Mérida, first time I've seen that in years.

RFClark - 11-14-2024 at 05:38 AM

That’s what we did a week ago when we renewed our FMMs. We went to immigration. As usual at the West Mexicali office there was no one else there getting one. After doing the paperwork we went over to the bank and paid $717 pesos each and took the receipt back to immigration. The Lady then stamped our FMM and passport {at least 6 months passport validity and a blank page required) then we left.

It is now routine to be stopped in BCS and asked for your passport if you fly in and they only stamp your passport it’s a good idea to know the page in your passport they stamped.

David K - 11-14-2024 at 08:42 AM

Lencho, I don't make things up. The website was sent to me from someone in Mexico to share with my Facebook group and elsewhere.

It seemed so crazy (if they are charging double) that I added the "Are they kidding???" line.

Verification would be nice so there is no 'sticker shock' when a family of six stops to get FMMs and has to pay $500+ just to enter Mexico to begin their vacation!

Did you even read the news link? https://bajanews.mx/noticias/32513/El-DNR-impuesto-a-extranj...

lencho - 11-14-2024 at 08:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Did you even read the news link? https://bajanews.mx/noticias/32513/El-DNR-impuesto-a-extranj...

I did. :rolleyes:

Please quote the text in that document where it says people are going to have to pay a fee in addition to the fee associated with the FMM (as you state in your headline).

David K - 11-14-2024 at 09:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Did you even read the news link? https://bajanews.mx/noticias/32513/El-DNR-impuesto-a-extranj...

I did. :rolleyes:

Please quote the text in that document where it says people are going to have to pay a fee in addition to the fee associated with the FMM (as you state in your headline).


If there is one, you go on ahead. I did not see one. Obviously, it concerned my Mexican friend enough to send it to me. If this is just a case of semantics, then there is nothing to get worked up about. Thank you.

*Subject title edited to be a question*

[Edited on 11-14-2024 by David K]

lencho - 11-14-2024 at 09:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
If there is one, you go on ahead. I did not see one.

Wait, you want me to try and find some non-existent evidence to support your baseless headline which I disputed?

Give me some of whatever that is you're taking! :lol:

Edit: It just occurred to me; you do realize the "FMM fee" is the DNR fee, right?

[Edited on 11-14-2024 by lencho]

wilderone - 11-14-2024 at 09:42 AM

Yes, semantics. The FMM is "free". Everyone needs one. But more often than not, is a passport stamp. Application online, print it out. But a fee charged for non-citizens staying in-country for more than 7 days. The only "news" that I'm reading is the cost went up to 717 pesos.

cupcake - 11-14-2024 at 05:40 PM

"Although the measure is backed by law, the lack of a formal announcement by the INM has generated confusion and long lines at the border crossing."

In past years, when getting a 180-day FMM at the San Ysidro crossing, the procedure was to walk a few feet to the right of the INM counter, and pay at the Bank window. Then, with the payment receipt, walk a few feet back to the INM counter, show the payment receipt, and be given your FMM. The article that David has quoted sounds like they have possibly returned to this procedure. About seven months ago, when I went to Mexico at this crossing, the bank was no longer there, and the payment was being processed by the INM agent. However, they were only taking credit or debit cards at that time, no cash. Hopefully, you can now pay with cash at the bank window, like you used to be able to do.

The fee was 717 pesos seven months ago, but at the time this was equivalent to about $43 US. If it is still 717, it is now about $35 US.

Thanks to David for the heads up on the procedure change at this crossing. If this means cash payments are again possible at San Ysidro, it will be an improvement for me. By the way, this never seemed to cause "long lines" in the past, so hopefully things will get 'dialed in' this time as well.

[Edited on 11-15-2024 by cupcake]

surabi - 11-14-2024 at 08:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The website was sent to me from someone in Mexico to share with my Facebook group and elsewhere.


"According to testimonies of users, immigration authorities began to charge without prior notice the Visitor's Fee (DNR) to foreigners, mainly Americans, who enter Mexico for tourism purposes."

"Testimonies of users"...what users? People who don't know what they're talking about, sounds like.

I suggest that you find out the actual facts about things before you "share with my Facebook group and elsewhere."
This is exactly how false rumors get spread.

surfhat - 11-15-2024 at 10:57 AM

DNR? Do not resuscitate?

wilderone - 11-15-2024 at 11:18 AM

"false rumors" ? Pick 12 websites on the subject of FMMs and you'll find 12 different explanations with varied terminology. Which is why there are always multiple replies to a question about FMMs as the confusion persists, and usually is only clarified for an individual with their own personal experience. And compared experiences will vary based on drive across, fly-in, walk across; TJ border vs. Cabo border, CBX; paper FMM vs. passport stamp; online vs. in-person. Thank you, David for posting.

Whiskey Witch - 11-15-2024 at 11:41 AM

We paid 717p each for our FMMs, driving across at Tecate on 9/14

lencho - 11-15-2024 at 03:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  
DNR? Do not resuscitate?

:lol:

Derecho de visitante No Remunerado (i.e. not here to work).