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CIA flying covert drone missions into Mexico to spy on drug cartels

JZ - 2-19-2025 at 10:13 PM

Pretty interesting news. Will they fire on the drug labs or just spy?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/cia-drone-missions-m...

Lee - 2-22-2025 at 02:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Pretty interesting news. Will they fire on the drug labs or just spy?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/cia-drone-missions-m...


A better idea. Give drones to MX and let them destroy the drug labs. Round up bad hombres and send them to Super Max Florence.

Tioloco - 2-22-2025 at 08:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Pretty interesting news. Will they fire on the drug labs or just spy?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/cia-drone-missions-m...


A better idea. Give drones to MX and let them destroy the drug labs. Round up bad hombres and send them to Super Max Florence.


Unfortunately, Mexican government has proven totally incapable of countering the drug cartels.

Tioloco - 8-9-2025 at 11:21 AM

Trump just ordered US Defense Department to prepare for cartel crackdown.

Sheinbaum has lost control of her country to the criminals.

Lee - 8-9-2025 at 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Trump just ordered US Defense Department to prepare for cartel crackdown.

Sheinbaum has lost control of her country to the criminals.


Hire MX mercenaries, train and arm them. Give citizenship to illegals who volunteer to get the job done.

JZ - 8-9-2025 at 07:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Trump just ordered US Defense Department to prepare for cartel crackdown.

Sheinbaum has lost control of her country to the criminals.


Hire MX mercenaries, train and arm them. Give citizenship to illegals who volunteer to get the job done.


I like it.

AKgringo - 8-10-2025 at 08:15 AM

The problem with mercenaries is that they follow the orders of whichever side pays them. It could be the federales, or the cartels, or both!

mtgoat666 - 8-10-2025 at 12:12 PM

Some of you wingnuts seem to fantasize about USA military strikes in mexico because you, your kids, grandkids, friends or neighbors like to do recreational drugs or have drug addition problems.

I dont think usa is going to launch military strikes in Mexico because your grandchild in usa has a drug problem.

If your grandchild has a drug problem, the blame lies with your family!


Ateo - 8-10-2025 at 12:58 PM

Stellar information on this website! I'm sure the experts are all observing and taking notes.

All of you (except AK Gringo who has a brain) should be proud of yourselves for providing such a crystal clear example of why humans can't be trusted to solve such a complicated issue!!

Have a wonderful Sunday.

Tioloco - 8-10-2025 at 02:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Stellar information on this website! I'm sure the experts are all observing and taking notes.

All of you (except AK Gringo who has a brain) should be proud of yourselves for providing such a crystal clear example of why humans can't be trusted to solve such a complicated issue!!

Have a wonderful Sunday.


Put the bong down, old boy.

Tioloco - 8-10-2025 at 02:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Some of you wingnuts seem to fantasize about USA military strikes in mexico because you, your kids, grandkids, friends or neighbors like to do recreational drugs or have drug addition problems.

I dont think usa is going to launch military strikes in Mexico because your grandchild in usa has a drug problem.

If your grandchild has a drug problem, the blame lies with your family!




Wrong again, I don't care at all about anyone weak enough to get involved in that lifestyle.

I would appreciate a serious approach to stemming the rampant and out of control violence in paradise (Mexico). Mexico's political leaders have proven totally incapable of doing anything meaningful about the problem.

Maybe Trump can Make Mexico Safe Again!

[Edited on 8-11-2025 by Tioloco]

Bajazly - 8-10-2025 at 03:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  

Maybe Trump can Make Mexico Safe Again!


Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?

Tioloco - 8-10-2025 at 05:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  

Maybe Trump can Make Mexico Safe Again!


Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?


Not sure exactly but the current trajectory is definitely not going well.... if you are honest with yourself you can see that.

Tioloco - 8-11-2025 at 06:44 AM

To quote recently assassinated Colombian presidential candidate Miguel Uribe, "Without security, there is nothing".

Perhaps an outside intervention can save Mexico from the grasp of narco violence.

Lee - 8-11-2025 at 08:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
The problem with mercenaries is that they follow the orders of whichever side pays them. It could be the federales, or the cartels, or both!


I wrote ''hire'' the mercenaries. That means the US pays them -- and trains and arms them. They don't have to be from MX. S. America works.

surabi - 8-13-2025 at 11:43 PM

Looks like a bunch of you here still haven't figured out that the "war on drugs" is an unwinnable fantasy.
As long as people want drugs, other people will be providing them. And humans have wanted drugs to alter their conciousness throughout history, everywhere in the world, in every culture.

Tioloco - 8-14-2025 at 05:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Looks like a bunch of you here still haven't figured out that the "war on drugs" is an unwinnable fantasy.
As long as people want drugs, other people will be providing them. And humans have wanted drugs to alter their conciousness throughout history, everywhere in the world, in every culture.


The fact that idiots want drugs doesn't mean the government should help them get them. Liberal policies like "Hugs not Bullets" have destabilized entire countries. Mexico is suffering immensely because of it.

There are a couple examples in South America where taking a strong approach to the criminals has greatly improved the safety and security of their citizens.

No matter what the situation, there will be libs who prefer to accept living with the violent cartel infiltration of Mexico instead of getting tough and killing them like the terrorists they are.
Most Mexicans are sick and tired of the current trend. They will be cheering when these sick cartel animals are eliminated.

Lee - 8-14-2025 at 09:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Looks like a bunch of you here still haven't figured out that the "war on drugs" is an unwinnable fantasy.
As long as people want drugs, other people will be providing them. And humans have wanted drugs to alter their conciousness throughout history, everywhere in the world, in every culture.


Unwinnable? Maybe.

The problem is drugs crossing the US border from MX.

I've stated my solution. Hold MX accountable. Threaten to take out the labs. Sanctions. Tariffs?

JZ? What's YOUR solution?

What's YOUR solution surabi?

mtgoat666 - 8-14-2025 at 09:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Looks like a bunch of you here still haven't figured out that the "war on drugs" is an unwinnable fantasy.
As long as people want drugs, other people will be providing them. And humans have wanted drugs to alter their conciousness throughout history, everywhere in the world, in every culture.


Unwinnable? Maybe.

The problem is drugs crossing the US border from MX.

I've stated my solution. Hold MX accountable. Threaten to take out the labs. Sanctions. Tariffs?

JZ? What's YOUR solution?

What's YOUR solution surabi?


Is it unacceptable if drug addicts kill themselves through their own poor choices? I am sure the families of OD-dead are sad,… but is drug abuse the govt’s problem to solve?
Lots of people die from alcohol and tobacco use, but we have not banned those products.
Only about 100,000 die per year from ODs.
Over 400,000 die each year from smoking tobacco.
In perspective of tobacco deaths that govt finds acceptable, I dont see ODs as a problem.

SFandH - 8-14-2025 at 10:41 AM

This article states that an estimated 175,000 Mexicans are on cartel payrolls.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-09-21/how-ma...

Just to give you an idea about the size of the problem.

I also read once that an estimated 450,000 Mexicans live directly off the money generated in the drug trade.

CIA drone missions?

Lee - 8-14-2025 at 10:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Is it unacceptable if drug addicts kill themselves through their own poor choices? I am sure the families of OD-dead are sad,… but is drug abuse the govt’s problem to solve?
Lots of people die from alcohol and tobacco use, but we have not banned those products.
Only about 100,000 die per year from ODs.
Over 400,000 die each year from smoking tobacco.
In perspective of tobacco deaths that govt finds acceptable, I dont see ODs as a problem.


Schedule 1 drugs are illegal. Allowing those drugs to cross the border is the gov't's problem to solve. This isn't a social issue or debate on whether drug addicts shouldn't have the freedom to use drugs or not.

The issue here is stopping MX drugs from entering the US.

Alcohol and tobacco not illegal. Poor analogy.

You don't have a solution or you would have written it by now.

Try to have an intelligent conversation or move on.

LancairDriver - 8-14-2025 at 11:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
Stellar information on this website! I'm sure the experts are all observing and taking notes.

All of you (except AK Gringo who has a brain) should be proud of yourselves for providing such a crystal clear example of why humans can't be trusted to solve such a complicated issue!!

Have a wonderful Sunday.

An observation by another observer that can't provide any example of any expertise on this issue other than criticism of others opinions.

JDCanuck - 8-14-2025 at 11:37 AM

We conquered over use of other drugs by a pretty simple format. Locate the pushers at the middle schools level and trace them up the delivery chain that preys on at risk middle school aged kids, whether they have stable families or are in rotating Foster homes is not the issue. Of course this requires dealing with the issue at the demand end and tracing it up the chain, involving other countries' enforcement agencies in cooperation. Along the way you will catch the ones feeding the despondent homeless, the PTSD veterans and other at risk and vulnerable adults. The demand end is the issue, where there is increasing demand, some one, internally or externally with no conscience will fill it.

JDCanuck - 8-14-2025 at 11:47 AM

With this one, we find numerous examples of mid teens that knowingly or unknowingly had this drug once, and died as a result. Why did they attempt it? That's a societal issue to deal with. Why are Vets 4 times more likely than others to be homeless and consequently addicts? Another societal issue. Why is there an exploding number of despondent homeless that eventually succumb to drugs? Another internal issue. Deal with all the demand issues first and the exploding drug use will go with it.

ftrphb - 8-15-2025 at 02:32 PM

Donald Trump received permission from Claudia Sheinbaum to spy on the cartels. This was on television. He did not receive permission to take military action on Mexican soil. Request denied. Have you ever seen a seen a Mexican army helicopter with two large caliber Gatling guns mounted on either side? These can level a house completely.
Provide the MX army with absolute proof. Send a Mexican helicopter to wipe them out.