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How many Nomads use film?

Sharksbaja - 6-21-2005 at 12:13 AM

Instead of a digital camera. I am spoiled with the ease of use and storage capacity of digital. Although I used a film camera for 20 yrs. I overdosed on photos and they just were taking up room. I was given a sweet(3.3 mpx) and have had a lot of fun with it. I can see the results immediately with my new one but alas, I don't think they look near as good as the ones I used to take with my old Nikon. What say you?

gringette - 6-21-2005 at 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Instead of a digital camera. I am spoiled with the ease of use and storage capacity of digital. Although I used a film camera for 20 yrs. I overdosed on photos and they just were taking up room. I was given a sweet(3.3 mpx) and have had a lot of fun with it. I can see the results immediately with my new one but alas, I don't think they look near as good as the ones I used to take with my old Nikon. What say you?

well, sharky - i use film, slide film being my fave.

i liken it to vinyl vs. cd - you get more warmth and depth with film than digital, and if you know a bit of photoshop, you can make a dud a winner - with film. cus it's all there, where as with digital, you get pixels - plain and straight. digital is amazing for many reasons, but - film is the heart of a picture, in my estimation.

RandyMacSC/SO - 6-21-2005 at 04:09 AM

SharksBaja.

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Take care, and I look forward to seeing your photo treasures.

Randy

RandyMacSC/SO - 6-21-2005 at 04:13 AM

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RandyMacSC/SO - 6-21-2005 at 04:18 AM

I used to do many training sessions a few years ago down in the USA and I also helped a few elderly and newbies to get up to speed with their digital cameras. The two software companies I founded created designer tools and our speciality was animation and Interactive authoring or interactive video tools and compression software.

I licensed our digital paint editing technology and animation technology to many independent third party companies back in the arly 1990's when multimedia was just showing up on the radar screen. Did a few deals with Adobe and they are a good company and they just acquired Macromedia.

Good productive digital tools for all types of users, from Pro to newbies.

Randy

RandyMacSC/SO - 6-21-2005 at 04:25 AM

Film vs. Digital? It's a matter of individual choice I guess.

The 5.5 megapixel camera I have is not quick enough to take a rapid succession of still image photos. The technology is getting better but it won't replace traditional film cameras. There will always be those people that want to use a 35 MM camera.

Digital is good and the way of the future, but traditional still image cameras are not going to go away. I found a box of old cameras downstairs the other day. My older brother is Hector the Collector and one of our realtives left all these Browning cameras and old film cameras to us in a will. Amazing photos from a simple film camera.

Randy

Bruce R Leech - 6-21-2005 at 06:47 AM

I still use Both . each one has its advantages. I like the 35 mm and also 2 1/4 x2 1.4 formats for film. the only thing I retired when I got my digital is my Polaroid.

Film/Digital cameras

Jack Swords - 6-21-2005 at 06:58 AM

Good question many of us have been asking ourselves. I have carried a SLR with film on many trips only to return with no film used. That's because I used the digital for photographing. But, I like to use filters and lenses and it is not quite there yet. My 500mm lens just can't be used with the digital. However, I have an underwater case for one of my digitals and that has been great due to the small size and 2 inch viewfinder. So still awaiting the answer to the first question.

burro bob - 6-21-2005 at 09:01 AM

I pretty much use only my digital camera now. I used to take a film camera along on all my trips but would only take a few photos because it was always too big a hassel with lenses and filters.
I bought one of the first consumer digital cameras on the market, an Apple Quick Take 100. This looked like some kind of wierd device out of Star Wars and had about the same capability as an instamatic camera. I moved up several years later to my Olympus C-2500L. Only 2.5 megapixels but with most of the features of a real 35mm camera. Even with only 2.5 megapixels I need a loupe to tell the difference in an 8 x 10 from my inkjet and a real photo.
I just take a whole lot more pictures now with the digital camera. I think the fact that I don't have the time and expense of sending off film for development is the main reason. Also once i have the digital image I can do more with it, ie make an 8 x 10 print or a note card or an internet ready image all with just a few keystrokes on my computer.
I can't see any color differences between film and digital on any systems that have been set up and calibrated properly. Most of the people I know that take digital fotos don't know anything about calibrating monitors or printers. I also met a couple that thought they knew everything and their pictures were always way off. Their eyes couldn't see the difference when they were visually calibrating their equipment.
My question is how many people with digital cameras take their fotos in low res JPEG, high res JPEG, or raw(if your camera has that ability)? I continually find people that don't understand that JPEG is a "lossey" compression codec. That means that some image information is thrown away when the picture is saved as a JPEG.
I use Micrografx Picture Publisher for my image editing. It is real cheap, powerful, has a short learning curve, and does everything I need it to do. I've tried Photoshop several times and just don't like it compared to Picture Publisher.
burro bob

Bajame - 6-21-2005 at 10:02 AM

Ive tried not to use it to save some money but it didn't take any pictures.

Natalie Ann - 6-21-2005 at 10:07 AM

We take our digital pictures using RAW, calibrate our monitor and printer, photoshop editing. The cameras use 35mm lenses and are 8 and 14 mgp. When we want to have prints/enlargements made by an outside agency, we ask for the profile for the printer they will be using and then in photoshop reset the printer specs to that printer.

When we first switched from film to digital - a Kodak 3.6 mgp - I noticed the difference in color depth. Now that we've got the bigger better cameras and lenses, the photos are pretty much the same as film.

Hint: If you shoot digital and want that Fuji film color-saturated look, purchase online the Fred Miranda actions and load them into your photoshop. Very very helpful in general and also has converters for various film effects such as velvia, which gives those same highly saturated blues and greens.

Bruce R Leech - 6-21-2005 at 10:36 AM

my photo editor will only reduce my pictures down to 55 or 60 kbs so I cant share any on the Nomad forum this makes me very sad but I guess unless I spend hundreds of dollars on Photoshope I need to just tough it out.

Natalie Ann - 6-21-2005 at 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
my photo editor will only reduce my pictures down to 55 or 60 kbs so I cant share any on the Nomad forum this makes me very sad but I guess unless I spend hundreds of dollars on Photoshope I need to just tough it out.

Bruce - If you email some to me, I'll reduce them for ya and email them back. u2u me for email address.

bajalou - 6-21-2005 at 01:30 PM

Digital only since I gone one a few years ago.

I don't have storage for prints or even slides. With digital I can have all the pictures I want to take in my computer to view or Email - I just use the Jpeg as I have no intention of blowing up and printing any. The subjects of my pictures are important thing to me, not the perfection of the shades of color etc.

Keep posting great pictures all of you!!!

A free program that is VERY simple to use to resize photos is available free from: www.jdmcox.com Lets you look at the size (in kbs) and keep changing till you get the size you want. (Has to be simple for me to use)

:biggrin:

Just about color depth...

Sharksbaja - 6-21-2005 at 01:53 PM

Geez Randy I am not that inept with a digital. Me should show off sum betta pics. I do have Photoshop but I am so used to my old programs. Also, I do not enhance my photo as many do. Maybe I should. Here is one altered :lol:

My microscope has a Carl Zeiss lens also.

Both

academicanarchist - 6-21-2005 at 02:20 PM

I use both when I visit exotic and not so exotic places. I have a Pentax and a Mamiya Sekor I bought 30 years ago, when I was a tad younger. The end game for me, though, is to convert prints into digital photos, to edit using Photoshop and several other programs I use. I also edit my digital photos to sharpen images, color, and improve contrast.On my trip to South American last fall, I took around 430 digital shots and around 300 print shots.

digital shot

academicanarchist - 6-21-2005 at 02:26 PM

This is a digital shot I took Sunday, after editing. It is not a Baja location, but it illustrates what careful editing with the proper software can do. This is actually about 12 miles from DC, and is the spot where bad members of Congress are brought for purging.

Sharksbaja - 6-21-2005 at 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by academicanarchist
This is a digital shot I took Sunday, after editing. It is not a Baja location, but it illustrates what careful editing with the proper software can do. This is actually about 12 miles from DC, and is the spot where bad members of Congress are brought for purging.

Hang on whilst I go get my magnafying glass :lol:

Can u show a bigger photo?

Can't, for some reason paste AAs JPG(link) here??? Oh well

[Edited on 6-21-2005 by Sharksbaja]

Better?

academicanarchist - 6-22-2005 at 01:09 AM

gringette - 6-23-2005 at 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Mucho gusto amiga! I figured you used film. Muy bueno!. Bienvenidos,Sharks

so, digital being the format of choice here - how did you figure and know I was using film - albeit slide film?

red, it's all about red.......and green

Sharksbaja - 6-23-2005 at 03:44 PM

the hues that clue me in are the significant loss of depth of red in digital and the overabundance of red on certain films. I have used various films with various lens filters in the past and I have always seen more red saturation in film than in digital. Besides, someone with an eye like yours would prefer to use a traditional camera. It is certainly more technique involved and skill oriented. Keep it up, you're good!

gringette - 6-27-2005 at 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
the hues that clue me in are the significant loss of depth of red in digital and the overabundance of red on certain films. I have used various films with various lens filters in the past and I have always seen more red saturation in film than in digital. Besides, someone with an eye like yours would prefer to use a traditional camera. It is certainly more technique involved and skill oriented. Keep it up, you're good!

aha! huh. i used to be able to tell digital shots by the 'pingy' ( - my term for the occasional blown out pixel that made things look flatter, or... something) but i havent been able to spot the difference with the newer &better cameras.

i do prefer the old school film method - i know photoshop well (not well enough to salvage all the blown out shots from last year,

) and like being able to recover lost details in film. i rarely crop my shots, though, and usually just adjust for color and darkness. also, the idea that i'm not limited to what my memory card can hold.

and thank you for the compliment - i really do love to shoot, and without the ability to do the darkroom adjusting - the computer gives me the 'fidget' factor i dont know if i'll get with digital. :biggrin:

roundtuit - 6-27-2005 at 11:16 PM

Here is something for digital and computer users.( Picasa.com ) it stores all your pics in albums , can lighten dark pics and easy to email Supported by google. Very easy for dummies like me. Check it out it's free. I was really impressed :bounce: