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I cant stand you people............!!!!!!!!

yankeeirishman - 7-17-2005 at 04:19 PM

I cant stand you Nomads...being in Baja right now in your Sea breezed living rooms, and the sweet smell of the ocean filling your heads. I wish I was there!

Now I am very interested IN San Quentin. Never been there, and I rarely see anything about this area from the forums. It seems to me to be a small settlement, and lots of room to breath. Righto?

Would like some of the Nomads here, give me their two cents worth on this area...on living there, is there land avail at what cost, how's the townfolks, building a home there...is it a piece of cake... or a night mare, things to do, and so forth. Oh...."Got Pictures"?

And ya all thought I was starting more rumpus with this headliner:lol::lol::lol:


[Edited on 7-17-2005 by yankeeirishman]

movinguy - 7-17-2005 at 05:32 PM

I have enjoyed the few times I have stayed there, but some people say it gives them the creeps - something about the locals is not as warm and fuzzy as other places. Also heard rumors of drug/meth trafficking . . .

I actually gave a ride to a couple of soldados from the El Rosario checkpoint back to the barracks in SQ. Nice enough fellows :coolup:

It wouldn't be my first choice

jrbaja - 7-17-2005 at 05:49 PM

But, if you like drinking, fishing, and clams, that would be a regular "hotspot".

The meth problem is pretty prevalent in all the larger areas of Baja. Not quite as bad as the u.s. but it's getting there.

I'm sure there are better deals on land than most places and there are some on here that will know more.

[Edited on 7/18/2005 by jrbaja]

yankeeirishman - 7-17-2005 at 06:51 PM

Meth problem ? Are you refering to the use of it by tourist, or
Mexican citizens?

Both

jrbaja - 7-17-2005 at 06:59 PM

The Sculpin - 7-17-2005 at 07:03 PM

If you use meth, you will certainly kill someone, and then you'll end up in San Quentin....a prison on the San Francisco bay (california). I'm sure you mean San Quintin, a once sleepy town about 4 hours south of the border that has grown into one of baja's biggest agricultural areas. It attracts many working families as well as migrants looking for work during the harvest season. Out of work migrants and ever reaching drug cartel equals meth heads running amok in the hills. It is also one of the areas that has pioneered the use of "sails" to catch the moisture provided by fog as a source of fresh water. Areas around Guerrero Negro also use this method.

OK, just busting your chops..after all, you're not Bruce and you can't get away with this kind of spelling gaff.

There is a community of expats in El Socorro that seem to be quite happy and not to keen to dispell bad rumors of the place. It also has been an area with very violent crime, although sporadic and uncertain in cause. The surf there is outstanding if you're tough enough.

yankeeirishman - 7-17-2005 at 07:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The Sculpin
If you use meth, you will certainly kill someone, and then you'll end up in San Quentin....a prison on the San Francisco bay (california). I'm sure you mean San Quintin, a once sleepy town about 4 hours south of the border that has grown into one of baja's biggest agricultural areas. It attracts many working families as well as migrants looking for work during the harvest season. Out of work migrants and ever reaching drug cartel equals meth heads running amok in the hills. It is also one of the areas that has pioneered the use of "sails" to catch the moisture provided by fog as a source of fresh water. Areas around Guerrero Negro also use this method.

OK, just busting your chops..after all, you're not Bruce and you can't get away with this kind of spelling gaff.

There is a community of expats in El Socorro that seem to be quite happy and not to keen to dispell bad rumors of the place. It also has been an area with very violent crime, although sporadic and uncertain in cause. The surf there is outstanding if you're tough enough.


San Quentin..nasty joint I spent 22 years there.................. for being a bad speller :lol: Great info you did for me. Txs. You know..I didnt get much in way of pictures off Yahoo or Google of this place. Duh!!!!!!!!!!! I was spelling it incorrectly. Thanks again for the spell ck


[Edited on 7-18-2005 by yankeeirishman]

wrk - 7-17-2005 at 07:25 PM

It seems to me that when one leaves San Quentin heading south the "real" Baja begins and the traffic ends. I always feel that I am truly headed home when I leave SQ.

San Quentin??? San Quitien, San Someplace!!

mike odell - 7-17-2005 at 10:39 PM

Yank,
Give it the gas from TJ to Guerro Negro! Usta be you could consider yourself officially in Baja after Ensenada, No More,
Give it the gas, past San Felipe, Give it the gas! Baja starts
after the Mason Dixon Line, Baja Sur,Baja Norte!!Were good here for maybe 5 to 10 more years!!!!! See ya soon!

mike odell - 7-17-2005 at 10:42 PM

Oops.
this was directed to wrp! but still applies!

They are right yanker....

Sharksbaja - 7-17-2005 at 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mike odell
Yank,
Give it the gas from TJ to Guerro Negro! Usta be you could consider yourself officially in Baja after Ensenada, No More,
Give it the gas, past San Felipe, Give it the gas! Baja starts
after the Mason Dixon Line, Baja Sur,Baja Norte!!Were good here for maybe 5 to 10 more years!!!!! See ya soon!


In the good ol' days the journey"really" did syart in San Quintin as that is where Migra stamped your tourist card for passage south. It WAS the wild west of the area. Now I think you could bypass without much ado. The roadside clam vendors do a great job and seafood in the area plentiful. THat is it's best feature I think. Many pedestrians on the highway also.

TMW - 7-18-2005 at 06:56 AM

For an adventure on the west side of Baja turn off east at KM15 south of San Quintin in the Santa Maria area and go into the mountains. A fun 60 miles before rejoining hwy 1 near El Arenoso.

Bruce R Leech - 7-18-2005 at 07:35 AM

I have many Friends that Live in San Quintin, most are in the ranching business grow tomatoes and other vegy crops. it is a pretty nice place once you get off the highway and explore a little bit. they have lots of good places to eat. also a grate summer Clement, nice and cool.

Dirty and dank.....

Hook - 7-18-2005 at 09:10 AM

.....kinda sums up my impression of SQ. It seems to have more than it's share of blowing trash on and off the highway.

Then there's the weather......the condition we gringos know as June Gloom can literally last for 8 months or more. Not completely continuous but almost. The cooler upwellings in the area make the overcast pretty constant.

It's also kind of a pain in terms of boating in and out of the harbor.

I like my Baja warm and SQ does not qualify.

BTW, I hear there is much more profitable crops besides tomatoes grown in the hothouses south of town.

Bruce R Leech - 7-18-2005 at 09:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
.....kinda sums up my impression of SQ. It seems to have more than it's share of blowing trash on and off the highway.

Then there's the weather......the condition we gringos know as June Gloom can literally last for 8 months or more. Not completely continuous but almost. The cooler upwellings in the area make the overcast pretty constant.

It's also kind of a pain in terms of boating in and out of the harbor.

I like my Baja warm and SQ does not qualify.

BTW, I hear there is much more profitable crops besides tomatoes grown in the hothouses south of town.


If your implying illegal crops your wrong. a very good Friend of mine owns those and he doesn't do that. careful what you say on this forum he is on line also.:light:

Guilty conscience?

jrbaja - 7-18-2005 at 09:27 AM

I thought he was talking about Roses.:light:

bajaruby - 7-18-2005 at 09:29 AM

Y.I.M.
In oct., that is my destination. Don't know if we will accually make it that far or not. It is sort of like the river here. We always plan a destination, but if something pops up along the way that is nice, we kinda get stuck there.
My uncle used to have a house down there when he was alive and said there was no better place on earth. But that was MANY yrs. ago and things do change.
I thought it was nice. But anywhere in Baja is nice to me.
Can't wait.
Oh, and I can't stand these people either. They are haveing way too much fun without me. They are just too lucky. We'll just have to suffer in this 109 weather until we get there. Stay cool:cool:

Live in San Quintin

Porky Pig - 7-18-2005 at 09:56 AM

We really like the mild climate, sometimes run a fan on an especially warm summer day, sometimes run a small propane heater on a colder winter morning. Wind is a downside. The area is mainly agricultural so there is a large transient population of field workers, giving us support for larger grocery stores and shopping conveniences. The plowed agriculture fields make the area dustier than most, hopefully becoming less dusty with the boom in covered "hothouses". The area is not a tourist destination except as a stopover, except for fishermen for whom the area is a great year round destination. One of the main reasons the beautiful beaches are not a tourist destination is the cold water influx which hits San Quintin, making the oyster farming possible as our water temp is comparably to Washington State. Add the wind factor, and the beaches are nippy, but desireable to the kiteboarders. Most expats who build a house live in several enclaves as they desire to build on private property, whereas the mexicans live in ejidos or on ejido land, which for an expat, is a very dicey type land to build on. Those expats who live in the local mexican ejido communities generally rent a house, which works out well. As an example of housing costs, you can rent a 2 bedroom house for about $200 monthly. The most popular construction here at Cielito Lindo is the typical local block house, wooden roof, local made windows, septic system, and 300 gal water tank, all for about $10dlls square foot for the shell. A 500 sq ft house is the most popular size. Expand this to include plastering, tile, fixtures, interior walls, solar system etc and you are looking at $30 dlls sq ft and up.
We are still remote enough, mentally and physically, from the bureaucrats that we can still bring our pets in the bar, have few building restrictions, and can live life as we like. Like all of Baja, we can see the changes coming, even here at "pretty little heaven".
Dave & Juanita, Cielito Lindo, San Quintin

Porky Pig - 7-18-2005 at 10:03 AM

Cielito Lindo beach is not crowded. Gets a little more crowd on major holidays but not as much as most other Baja beaches.

Porky

jrbaja - 7-18-2005 at 10:07 AM

Would you please tell Chook from Los Barriles that J.R. says hola and hope to get down there soon.

Bruce R Leech - 7-18-2005 at 10:11 AM

thanks Porky Pig sounds like the perfect place for a summer home for those of us that live on the other side.

Porky Pig - 7-18-2005 at 11:00 AM

This is the tunnel of trees leading to Cielto Lindo in San Quintin.

JR, Chuck left southbound about an hour ago. Guess he needs his smokehouse visit.

[Edited on 7-18-2005 by Porky Pig]

[Edited on 7-18-2005 by Porky Pig]

Damn, is he coming back up?

jrbaja - 7-18-2005 at 04:24 PM

san quintin is where every great trip south begins

eetdrt88 - 7-18-2005 at 06:01 PM

at least thats what i thought until i ended up in the little village of Erindira recently...which is just a littlle north of san quintin but definitely off the beaten path

yankeeirishman - 7-18-2005 at 06:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Porky Pig
We really like the mild climate, sometimes run a fan on an especially warm summer day, sometimes run a small propane heater on a colder winter morning. Wind is a downside. The area is mainly agricultural so there is a large transient population of field workers, giving us support for larger grocery stores and shopping conveniences. The plowed agriculture fields make the area dustier than most, hopefully becoming less dusty with the boom in covered "hothouses". The area is not a tourist destination except as a stopover, except for fishermen for whom the area is a great year round destination. One of the main reasons the beautiful beaches are not a tourist destination is the cold water influx which hits San Quintin, making the oyster farming possible as our water temp is comparably to Washington State. Add the wind factor, and the beaches are nippy, but desireable to the kiteboarders. Most expats who build a house live in several enclaves as they desire to build on private property, whereas the mexicans live in ejidos or on ejido land, which for an expat, is a very dicey type land to build on. Those expats who live in the local mexican ejido communities generally rent a house, which works out well. As an example of housing costs, you can rent a 2 bedroom house for about $200 monthly. The most popular construction here at Cielito Lindo is the typical local block house, wooden roof, local made windows, septic system, and 300 gal water tank, all for about $10dlls square foot for the shell. A 500 sq ft house is the most popular size. Expand this to include plastering, tile, fixtures, interior walls, solar system etc and you are looking at $30 dlls sq ft and up.
We are still remote enough, mentally and physically, from the bureaucrats that we can still bring our pets in the bar, have few building restrictions, and can live life as we like. Like all of Baja, we can see the changes coming, even here at "pretty little heaven".
Dave & Juanita, Cielito Lindo, San Quintin


Porky...that was an excellent report of your 'hood. Thank you so much (and others here too). You have convinced me to visit there and snoop around. Your town sounds exactly what I prefer. Buy ya soda in a few months.....Txs.

yankeeirishman - 7-18-2005 at 06:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Porky Pig
This is the tunnel of trees leading to Cielto Lindo in San Quintin.

JR, Chuck left southbound about an hour ago. Guess he needs his smokehouse visit.

[Edited on 7-18-2005 by Porky Pig]

[Edited on 7-18-2005 by Porky Pig]


My God!!! If that dont look like the old road to Knott's Berry Farm, back in1957! Well....this picture is really cool. I love the farm areas of Mexico.

yankeeirishman - 7-18-2005 at 07:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaruby
Y.I.M.
In oct., that is my destination. Don't know if we will accually make it that far or not. It is sort of like the river here. We always plan a destination, but if something pops up along the way that is nice, we kinda get stuck there.
My uncle used to have a house down there when he was alive and said there was no better place on earth. But that was MANY yrs. ago and things do change.
I thought it was nice. But anywhere in Baja is nice to me.
Can't wait.
Oh, and I can't stand these people either. They are haveing way too much fun without me. They are just too lucky. We'll just have to suffer in this 109 weather until we get there. Stay cool:cool:


I am planning a long tour of Baja this Nov. Going to hit all these Nomads homeworlds...all the way to the cape. Otherwise..I will be in Baja "Hog o Lot" starting in Oct. LMK where you are heading 4, and I'll bring the fish tacos. :cool:

bajaruby - 7-19-2005 at 03:56 PM

Will be in touch. Maybe make a plan.:bounce: