BajaNomad - Air, Land, Sea - Bahia San Luis Gonzaga

Air, Land, Sea - Bahia San Luis Gonzaga

Natalie Ann - 8-9-2005 at 01:18 PM

The fever's got me bad these days. My bags remain packed from my last trip. But for now all I can do is dream.
I've posted a few nothing-special photos taken at one of my most favorite spots on this earth, Gonzaga Bay - good place to dream about

Just click here:
http://www.bajacaliforniaconservation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.ph...

bajajudy - 8-9-2005 at 01:28 PM

Beautiful...thanks.
One place I have never been to.....maybe next time!

Bahia San Louis Ganzaga

Bajadtodebone - 8-9-2005 at 01:31 PM

Natalie Ann, beautiful, I can see why you feel the way you do. I may be even prettier than BOLA. I'll have to stop by there on a trip down. I couldn't make out the detail but are those structures along the beach or RV's? :smug:

Bob H - 8-9-2005 at 02:24 PM

This is one of our favorite places to visit. There are about 70 homes along the spit there along the bay. Alfonsinas cantina/motel is at the very tip. It's so peaceful and quite there and along Papa Fernandez beach area (unless the wind picks up). But when the water is like glass and you have a kayak out there, it's unreal. That area will change if they ever pave that road. The rough road keeps a lot of people from going out there.
Bob H

David K - 8-9-2005 at 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bajadtodebone
Natalie Ann, beautiful, I can see why you feel the way you do. I may be even prettier than BOLA. I'll have to stop by there on a trip down. I couldn't make out the detail but are those structures along the beach or RV's? :smug:

They're a mix of homes and trailers with cabanas/ palapas built around them... That is Alfonsina's.

Natalie Ann - 8-9-2005 at 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Bob H
This is one of our favorite places to visit. There are about 70 homes along the spit there along the bay. Alfonsinas cantina/motel is at the very tip. It's so peaceful and quite there and along Papa Fernandez beach area (unless the wind picks up). But when the water is like glass and you have a kayak out there, it's unreal. That area will change if they ever pave that road. The rough road keeps a lot of people from going out there.
Bob H

You're right, Bob, and I sure wish one of those homes was mine..... or even belonged to a friend of mine :spingrin:

As for Alfonsina's, it looks like this from down the beach:

Natalie Ann - 8-9-2005 at 04:41 PM

....and this from in front of the cantina:

Natalie Ann - 8-9-2005 at 04:42 PM

....and the back looked like this on President's Day weekend, lotsa folks there:

Sunrise at Gonzaga Bay

John M - 8-9-2005 at 04:56 PM

From the porch at Alfonsina's as we sipped early morning coffee.

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:09 PM

Here is from the south looking north along the homes of Alfonsina's...

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:11 PM

Here is looking a bit more towards the bay and island...

Is this another one of those

jrbaja - 8-9-2005 at 05:12 PM

quaint Mexican villages I hear so much about? :lol:

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:15 PM

... and as I swing the lens out more to the east...

This was Thanksgiving 2003...

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:18 PM

Final shot facing east...
This is actually Ensenada de San Francisquito, the larger bay, south of Bahia San Luis Gonzaga Island... but nobody calls it that! LOL

Natalie Ann - 8-9-2005 at 05:23 PM

Lovely sunrise, John M. Thanks.

Better check yer maps there Cartographer!

jrbaja - 8-9-2005 at 05:26 PM

:lol:

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by jrbaja
quaint Mexican villages I hear so much about? :lol:

Yes, like La Barca, only nicer...

jrbaja - 8-9-2005 at 05:28 PM

:lol:

Now that was funny! :lol:

David K - 8-9-2005 at 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by jrbaja
:lol:

I am not a cartographer, they get paid! I am a Baja history buff and map collector. The Spanish named the bays, the smaller well protected bay is San Luis Gonzaga and the larger open bay is Ensenada de San Francisquito... Here is Gulick's map, and I can also scan Crosby's El Camino Real maps which show the same. The Mexican cartographers goofed up and reversed the two bays' names... and that you can see in the Almanac (one of the corrections I would submit to Landon)...

Why the larger bay was named San Francisquito Harbor (Ensenada)? Well, just up the arroyo San Francisquito (which drains into that bay after merging with Arroyo Santa Maria) is the water hole 'San Francisquito' on the El Camino Real (next to Las Arrastras)... Also, today's Punta Final Resort was originally known as Puerto San Francisquito where gold ore was shipped out from Molino de San Francisquito (later renamed Molino de Lacy, after William Lacy's death)... So lot's of San Francisquitos attached to that bigger half of 'Gonzaga Bay'!

We won't even get into the boaters calling Gonzaga Bay, Willard Bay! That's another chapter!

[Edited on 8-10-2005 by David K]

capt. mike - 8-10-2005 at 05:52 AM

paved road.......easy access........motels........condos........a boat service......
an electric plant...........LOTSA 24/7 ICE!!!! jet ski rentals......

Alfi's......2015!

Roberto - 8-12-2005 at 08:06 AM

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... Here is Gulick's map, and I can also scan Crosby's El Camino Real maps which show the same.

Question David - I was always under the impression that, before posting (or using) material from a published work, that you are supposed to get permission, and note that permission where the work is used.

Not correct?

[Edited on 8-12-2005 by Roberto]

David K - 8-12-2005 at 08:27 PM

Permission to post Howard Guilick's maps on the Internet was given by the publisher, Arthur H. Clark... That letter is on file and can be seen from my web site (1962 road maps of Baja). The person who made that web page (Doug E.) gave approval to me to link it on mine.

The Lower California Guidebook is LONG out of print. The maps are over 40 years old.

Copyright protection is to keep the others from selling or using another's work, for profit or to deprive the original author of sales. Well, the book is no longer published (last edition was 1970), Howard has died years ago, I make no income from showing his work on Nomad, or VivaBaja.com.

Showing Howard's maps is a complement to the man's work in Baja... that they are still of interest is a testimate to his skill.
I was fortunate enough to meet him... I was maybe 11 at the time.

Is this answer satisfactory enough for you?

capt. mike - 8-13-2005 at 05:41 AM

Natalie Ann - those pics aerials are quite good. makes me want to head there asap. that place truly is one of the best. oct to may - killer weather but the summer is stifiling.

i'll be there this years baja 1000 watching the TTs blaze thru with HIDs burning a 10 mile long path as they come in from the south after dark.

what a party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roberto - 8-13-2005 at 08:17 AM

David, if you have permission, that's good. But you are not correct about the law. You might want to check this link: http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm .

Depending on date of publication, how copyright notice was given in the original work and other factors, copyright could still be in effect 70 years after the death of the original author.

"Sharing" someone else's work without following the rules is not a "complement", and it most certainly is not your decision, but the author's.

And whether or not you are profiting from the use makes no difference whatsoever. Nor does the fact that you met the author, no matter what the age. :lol:

And finally, notice of the permission should appear EVERY time you use the work.

Just thought you'd like to know.

[Edited on 8-13-2005 by Roberto]