BajaNomad - HOUSEHOLD GOODS INTO MEXICO

HOUSEHOLD GOODS INTO MEXICO

BAJADUDE - 8-16-2005 at 12:29 PM

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING INTO MEXICO SOME HOUSEHOLD GOODS IN A SMALL TRAILER SUCH AS COUCH, WASHER, BED, SHOVELS,TOOLS ETC. WHAT IS THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT OR PROCEDURE FOR BRINGING THESE ITEMS IN. I AM A NEW PROPERTY OWNER IN BAJA S. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN BRINGING THESE ITEMS ACROSS IN AN OTHER STATE BESIDES BAJA N
THANKS
TOM

Anonymous - 8-16-2005 at 12:32 PM

Do you have an FM-3?

Anonymous - 8-16-2005 at 01:02 PM

As you said you have purchased a home, we will assume you have acquired an FM-3, 2, or 1. You can take a complete cargo manifest (list of your cargo..every item) to the Mexican embassy in SD, if that is where you will be crossing from...it is the same with all other Mexican embassys throughout the border...and there you can get a one-time only tax-free importation permit for your household things. You will pay a one-time only fee of about $90 for this service. This is the ONLY time you can make this special import tax-free trip bringing in any amount of household goods, furnishings, etc for your Mexican home. Take the receipt and cleared manifest document with you when crossing through Mexican customs. Bueno suerte. It is easy to do....do some homework first and walk yourself through it...follow all the steps.

BAJADUDE - 8-16-2005 at 01:03 PM

WHAT IS A FM-3? AND WHERE DO I GET ONE?
T

Anonymous - 8-16-2005 at 01:06 PM

Whoops....best forget what I wrote about getting that manifest made up. Time for you to 'troll' onto the search and find out about FM-3's.

For that many items

jrbaja - 8-16-2005 at 01:09 PM

Go into the declare lane in Otay and just pay the taxes, providing the items are used. It will be less hassle and money than visiting consulates.
You do need an FM3 though, just to have a home here legally!

Anonymous - 8-16-2005 at 01:15 PM

Nix on the Otay...will be much more costly than the embassy method for your first importation of goods. And it is no hassle at all. Just be honest and include everything in your cargo manifest...although nobody will bother to check it, probably. You can bring 'any amount of new stuff' for a set fee of 90 dollars. But first, new buyer, you best get that FM-3 problem settled first! Why is that news to you? What did you buy? Something is a little off here.

elizabeth - 8-16-2005 at 01:19 PM

The following is copied and pasted from ajijiclaw.com which is an excellent site for legal questions relating to Mexico.

"Even though you can purchase a home or property on a Tourist Visa (FMT), you can avoid paying capital gains taxes down the road by getting a Temporary Resident Visa (FM3) or a Permanent Resident Visa (FM2). These migratory documents can easily be applied for here in Mexico. The FM3 can also be applied for in the United States or Canada at any Mexican Consulate. Please note, if you apply for an FM3 outside of Mexico, you have to have it registered in Mexico within 3 months of obtaining it. The other rule for saving on capital gains is you must own the property for at least 2 years and keep your migratory status, whether it is permanent or temporary, current.

The added bonus for having an FM2 or FM3 is that you have a 6-month window from the time your migratory document is approved to move down your personal belongings with no taxes, duties, or penalties applied. This is easily done by creating an inventory list of the items you want to bring down, including applicable model and serial numbers, in Spanish. Then bringing it to a Mexican Consulate nearest you and having them approve it. They will also advise you on how to label your inventory list on the boxes you are shipping or bringing down."

Anonymous - 8-16-2005 at 01:23 PM

Yup..that's what we did...exactly. Although we were told that an FM-3 was required in our area by the Immagracion. We did the 'within the 6 mth window' thing. Perhaps the FMT will suffice where Bajadude is moving?

FM3

Reeljob - 8-16-2005 at 02:30 PM

OK, I NEED HELP. HOW DO YOU DO A "SEARCH" Sorry about shouting!!!

Bruce R Leech - 8-16-2005 at 02:51 PM

it is OK I'm hard of heiring. I'm from Colorado also I guess it must have some thing to do with the altitude.

go to the top of this page and push the search button.

[Edited on 8-16-2005 by Bruce R Leech]

Bruce R Leech - 8-16-2005 at 02:54 PM

BAJADUDE where did you buy a House?

[Edited on 8-16-2005 by Bruce R Leech]

Dave - 8-16-2005 at 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anonymous
You can take a complete cargo manifest (list of your cargo..every item) to the Mexican embassy in SD, if that is where you will be crossing from...it is the same with all other Mexican embassys throughout the border...and there you can get a one-time only tax-free importation permit for your household things. You will pay a one-time only fee of about $90 for this service. This is the ONLY time you can make this special import tax-free trip bringing in any amount of household goods, furnishings, etc for your Mexican home.

Nope.

While you can only import once, if you miss the "6 month window" you will have another opportunity each time you renew your FM.

Bruce R Leech - 8-16-2005 at 06:25 PM

don't take any advice from Anonymous posters they have no credibility or accountability.

rts551 - 8-16-2005 at 06:39 PM

You need to go to the nearest immigrtation office to your house. You will need numerous documents (photos, proof of residence in mexico, bank statements etc). I suggest that you stop in at the immigration office for official requirements (they seem to change based on location). Check with the Officials and not a forum.

JZ - 8-16-2005 at 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anonymous
BAJADUDE - don't answer any question about your house, person wherabouts etc.
You might regret those answers pretty soon.

Please explain why.

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 07:50 AM

Say Bruce, It must be a Colorado thing! My husband is getting his new hearing aids on Thurs. :biggrin:

I'm so happy to STOP YELLING AND REPEATING :bounce:

Are you higher than Denver? I can hardly wait to leave the altitude behind and head for sea level.

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 07:52 AM

PS...Do appreciate the transport info. and hope the tax free on goods coming in if for real. That is a relief as I don't want to leave 'my stuff' behind. :no:

Anonymous - 8-17-2005 at 07:58 AM

Don't worry, 2frogs....it will go okay. Just remember about the 1-time only within the first 6 mths condition...there WILL be a minimum charge at the Mexican Embassy of about $90 (that's what we paid a few years ago) for the paperwork, etc. They will give you all the info you need to get things done, like listings, translations, serial numbers, etc, etc. We did it in an afternoon and had a fun lunch nearby in downtown San Diego. No problemas. Good luck.

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 08:14 AM

Now Mr. Anonymous it was said not to pay attention to you :no:

Why don't you register? Are you a lawyer, as every time a lawyer has told me not to worry ..... I had plenty to worry about :lol:

yes:

Thanks for the encouraging words anyway.

Anonymous - 8-17-2005 at 08:17 AM

No..God No!...not a lawyer. Please do not let the ramblings of a few ranters limit your decision-making for you. I can assure you that posting anonymously on this board is not a criminal offense...although a few would seem to want to make it that way. Kind of like a few fanatics burning witches at the stake in New England.

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 08:22 AM

Oh, well watch your tail feathers then.

We are not worried as we will do everything legal...we just didn't want it to cost an arm and a leg.

bajalou - 8-17-2005 at 08:45 AM

Follow all the rules etc. but don't be suprised if it doesn't go as smoothly as it has for some. The guy at the gate has a world of power. I hope yours is like silk!!!

:biggrin:

bajajudy - 8-17-2005 at 08:58 AM

DAVE
Is that true that you have 6 months after each FM3 renewal?
Thanks

modhatter - 8-17-2005 at 09:12 AM

Can't you apply for your FM# status after you purchase a house. You don't have to have it prior to purchasing do you?

Anonymous advice

jrbaja - 8-17-2005 at 10:07 AM

based on their one experience a few years ago seems a little questionable at best! Things do change down here. Occasionally!
I wasn't kidding about the Otay crossing. If the stuff is used, it shouldn't cost more than $50.00 to get it across legally. Save the free trip for when you want to bring down a lot of things!

bajajudy - 8-17-2005 at 10:08 AM

I did not have an FM3 when I purchased my house but I did have a valid FMT. That was too many years ago to count as good information however.

Bajadude
Do be very careful about telling us where your house is.
We Nomads have been known to show up on your doorstep wearing sombreros with VIVA BAJA bumperstickers plastered all over our bodies. We will be leaving flaming tortillas all over your front yard.
The Anons will sneak in through your window and steal your undies.
Cuidado

Anonymous - 8-17-2005 at 03:05 PM

For every border crossing my nay-sayer JR has made I have made 10...and I am being conservative to say the least. There is no way that Otay used-products taxes will be lower on a full-sized household of furniture. And my crossings are almost daily and up-to-date, as is my understanding and involvement in of importation laws, land and home ownership, fideiocomsios (bank trusts), Mexican corporation regulations, foreign-owned business and a host of other Mexico and other Latin-American activities. But you do what you have to do...I can only give you the benefit of my 40 years of experience in dealing with things in Baja and Mexico.

Are my posts that difficult to understand?

jrbaja - 8-17-2005 at 03:19 PM

"I WOULD LIKE TO BRING INTO MEXICO SOME HOUSEHOLD GOODS IN A SMALL TRAILER SUCH AS COUCH, WASHER, BED, SHOVELS,TOOLS ETC."

I believe my reply began with "For that many items".
I am not naysaying and I think it's wonderful you spend so much time in the border lines getting all this knowledge.

Fact is though, with a few items like these, if you are a nice person, a small trailer shouldn't cost more than $50.00 to bring through.
Just an idea, not an argument.

I do not spend nearly the amount of time in the border line a what's his name. But, this method has worked for us on many occasions. We do it because we are poor. :light:

Natalie Ann - 8-17-2005 at 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
it is OK I'm hard of heiring. I'm from Colorado also I guess it must have some thing to do with the altitude.[Edited on 8-16-2005 by Bruce R Leech]

If that's the case, Bruce, it must be like second hand smoke. I have difficulty hearing and I live about 25 feet above sea level.... but I do have friends in Colorado. :tumble:

Bruce R Leech - 8-17-2005 at 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anonymous
For every border crossing my nay-sayer JR has made I have made 10...and I am being conservative to say the least. There is no way that Otay used-products taxes will be lower on a full-sized household of furniture. And my crossings are almost daily and up-to-date, as is my understanding and involvement in of importation laws, land and home ownership, fideiocomsios (bank trusts), Mexican corporation regulations, foreign-owned business and a host of other Mexico and other Latin-American activities. But you do what you have to do...I can only give you the benefit of my 40 years of experience in dealing with things in Baja and Mexico.

ANY ONE CAN SAY ANY THING IF THEY ARE ANON. :lol:

If you lye or make a mistake it doesn't mater to you you just hide :?:

Natalie Ann - 8-17-2005 at 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajajudy
Bajadude
Do be very careful about telling us where your house is.
We Nomads have been known to show up on your doorstep wearing sombreros with VIVA BAJA bumperstickers plastered all over our bodies. We will be leaving flaming tortillas all over your front yard.
The Anons will sneak in through your window and steal your undies.
Cuidado

How come is it, Judy, you just gotta give away the surprise?! :lol:

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 04:34 PM

Natlie Ann, Where in Colorado? We live there as well and my husband says his hearing if just a 'woman's voice' Ha! Ha! Actually, it is the range of women's voices. I still call it selective hearing. But, that will be solved with the new hearing aids.

I've had friends say the same about crossing the border...have a storage area close to the border and take small trailer loads at a time of your used items across. They never say a thing. Now, that's into Mexico. I just want to bring the entire house full over all at once and be done with it. So, I'm hopppping whoever said it would be tax free with proper documents is the winner here. :bounce:

So, we can be the winners. :light:

Bruce R Leech - 8-17-2005 at 04:41 PM

just be sure to get all your documents for your car trailer and people in the car both Mexican and other and you will be OK

from Steam Boat Springs

[Edited on 8-17-2005 by Bruce R Leech]

2frogs - 8-17-2005 at 05:10 PM

Awesome, Steam Boat Springs! We spent a summer and fall there in 90 I think. Rented a condo while my husband worked at building the jail. We had a sweet set up. Right in the middle of the balloon races, car races...sitting up on the hill. We paid $300.00 a month which encluded the cable, phone and even a greeting bottle of wine. We were the only two there most of the time. My husband used the dumpster cover for his garage

Had the pool and hot tub all to ourselves during the week. We were offered an extended stay by the owner but we said no thanks and headed back to Costa Rica. :yes:

Thanks for the encouraging words on transport of goods.

BAJADUDE - 8-17-2005 at 06:18 PM

geeeez, i guess i better move to the other bc (1500mile north). you all, or maybe all ya all, have been a great help. the _____ thing is that others get the info as well. well i guess i've said to much about my location at 23.5s but as far as my underwear,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,,,,, let me just say,,,,,,,,,,, my underwear has been known as a,,,,,,,,, a,,,,,,,,,,,,,, toxic,disquausting,weapon, doomsday device,etc and i would appreciate nobody stealing them as they are to be part of my security system at my new home.
thank you all
tom and nancy

comitan - 8-17-2005 at 07:06 PM

Bajadude

Welcome to La Paz, you picked a great place to live, if you don't mind all the gringo enclaves.

Dave - 8-17-2005 at 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajajudy
DAVE
Is that true that you have 6 months after each FM3 renewal?
Thanks

No, I made it up.

You can only do it once but if you don't make it the first time around you get another chance after renewal.