BajaNomad

40% of Mexicans want to move to US... what?

neilmac - 8-18-2005 at 03:02 PM

Any truth to this?

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=national&sto...

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More than 40 percent of Mexican adults say they would move to the U.S. if they could, and 1 in 5 say they would do so illegally if necessary, according to surveys released yesterday by the Pew Hispanic Center.
Surveys of 1,200 Mexican adults in February and 1,200 in May, conducted in their homes, show that Mexicans' rising education levels have not weakened the desire to live and work in this country.

More than a third of Mexican college graduates say they would come to the U.S. if they could, and more than 1 in 8 would do so even if they had to enter the country illegally, according to the surveys, the first of their kind.

"Contrary to what people might expect, the inclination to migrate isn't contained among Mexicans who are poor or poorly educated or with limited economic prospects," says Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research group in Washington. "They're distributed across the whole breadth of Mexican society."

Mexicans' willingness to come is driven by a desire to improve their economic status and join friends and family already there, Suro says.

Despite improvements in the Mexican economy, "people with college degrees believe they have greater economic opportunities by migration to the U.S. - even illegally - than they would staying at home," Suro says. Mexicans are coming from richer, urban areas as well as poor, rural regions, he says.

More than half of Mexicans say they would be inclined to come if the U.S. established a temporary worker program.

Bajaboy - 8-18-2005 at 03:03 PM

I'm sure this holds true for many countries around the world.

zac

JESSE - 8-18-2005 at 03:30 PM

I think that is true, just for the work, but if they could have a good job here i would say 90%+ would not leave.

Bruce R Leech - 8-18-2005 at 04:08 PM

the only surprising thing to me is that it isn't 60 or 80 %

TMW - 8-20-2005 at 09:09 AM

My guess is that Americans retiring to Mexico do so more because of money. Many retirees have little more than Social Security. If they're lucky enough they may own a house. With a low income (SS) Mexico looks good for many.

I think you would have a pretty screwed up family to want to get away from them. If so and it were me I'd have left long ago.

I took this poll

jrbaja - 8-20-2005 at 09:41 AM

amongst my neighbors. Some rich, some poor, some in between. They all had the same answer which was ":lol::lol::lol:" and then, "Why"?

I do know many that would like to see Disneyland though.

TW

Skeet/Loreto - 8-20-2005 at 12:01 PM

Long time no Post?

TW if i may be so bold , I am somewhat distrubed by the Post where you indicated that many people only have Soc. Sec. ,that they reire in Mexico for that reason.

Many, many americans have double Soc. Sec Benefits, other incomes and move to Mexico for many other reasons than
Money.
After my many years i would tend to say:Americans moved to Mexico for the Way of Life". now many years ago the amount of Income was the reason but as income has improved for most americans they are going for different reasons, Loreto Bay Villages, is an example, the commuters from TJ and Rosarito, . It is a great Place to Live!!
TE we are seeing the same thing happen here in the States, with more People making more money and retiring out of saySan diego, they are selling out going to prescott AZ, St. George Utah, , Others are moving up with better incomes, buying the homes as they become avaiable.

I beleive that as our Economics keeps growing more and more pople will move to Mexico in hopes of a calmer "Way of Life".
Skeet/Loreto

Skeet/Loreto

Right on

jrbaja - 8-20-2005 at 12:05 PM

Sr. Skeet

Oso - 8-21-2005 at 09:45 AM

I think the percentages would vary widely if broken down regionally. This would correlate to local economies. Native Baja Californios seem generally ambivalent or not very enthusiastic about emmigration whereas Oaxaque?os may be desperate for it.

A great many of the dead we keep scraping off the desert here are from Vera Cruz, Oaxaca and other non-arid regions. They just don't understand how easily the sun kills here and are not prepared for the trek.

BTW, Prescott ain't cheap anymore. It's getting as expensive as Flagstaff.

bajalou - 8-21-2005 at 09:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto

Many, many americans have double Soc. Sec Benefits, other incomes and move to Mexico for many other reasons than
Money.

Skeet/Loreto


That's quite true, Skeet, but the fact remains that there are still a lot who only have SS and there life here can be much fuller than anywhere in the USA.

:biggrin:

Lou

Skeet/Loreto - 8-21-2005 at 10:55 AM

I agreed with your Post until the last part where you said"Can have a Fuller life than any where in the United States.
I am not sure of what you mean, I lived in Loreto for 17 years full time and have had a very Full Life there and I am now enjoying a Full life here in the Texas Panhandle and I am only 74 yrs young..
Please give me an Ida of what you meant.

Skeet/Loreto

TMW - 8-21-2005 at 11:00 AM

Hi Skeet. I don't disagree with what you say and I was lumping a lot in one statement. Saying it another way, people on social security can make it go a lot further in Mexico than most places in the U.S. As can anyone at any income level since it cost less than most places in the U.S.

bajalou - 8-21-2005 at 11:02 AM

There limited dollars/pesos go farther - don't have to scrimp as much for just living costs.

:(

there life here can be much fuller than anywhere in the USA.

jrbaja - 8-21-2005 at 11:44 AM

I thought you were talking about being able to drink beer on the beach without fear of getting arrested!:lol: Fuller Life !

Baja Bernie - 8-21-2005 at 01:54 PM

I really believe that family is what keeps most Mexicans in Mexico and most Americans in America. The family pull has to be weighed against the gain in quality of life when going north or south.

I really doubt that much over 1% of Americans would relocate in Mexico. They just don't have what it takes to leave all of the creature comforts in the US for the simple wonders of Mexico and it's people.

As Dalai Lama says--"Open arms to change, but don't let go of your values."

TW/Lou

Skeet/Loreto - 8-21-2005 at 05:41 PM

I got your Point.!
I was concerned as the Post seem to indicate that there were numerous People in the US just barely esisting on SS.
I must say that of all the people I met in my years at loreto, not many were scraping by on SS.
I think the people who do not plan on their Retirement are not the kind to take off and go toBaja as they did after the Korean War when many x-servicemen retired and went to live on the Mesico mainland.

Virginia and I lived on $800 a month in Loreto.If a person would like to know how to live very reasonably they can u2u me for details.

Skeet/Loreto