I agree Pompano. This is your worse nightmare. I fear for the people who are still there. I cant remember ever seeing a hurricane that covered the
entire Gulf of Mexico with such a white blanket and such a well defined eye....very scary. We should all pray for those people.
New Orleans is a beautiful city with a very unique mixture of people. I hope that they all survive.
As the Mayor pf New Orleans said....."God Bless Us"surfer jim - 8-28-2005 at 07:08 PM
I want it to hit baja around Rosarito Beach ...come across and dump the rain in the mountains......while I am watching MATOMI canyon....what a show
that will be.....capt. mike - 8-29-2005 at 06:18 AM
i love the big easy, best eating and drinking in the world!!
this will be bad, but after some clean up look for travel specials as the resorts and hotels strive for new biz to feed the coffers. by mardi gras
there will be a lot of rebuilding done, enough to enjoy some of the area.
BIGGEST WEATHER DISASTER IN US HISTORY
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 01:01 PM
This is unbelievable...but it's happening now. This is a national disaster of major proportions.
Very grim reality
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 01:04 PM
30 ft tidal surges many miles inland
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 01:08 PM
Prayer Helps ?
MrBillM - 8-30-2005 at 02:23 PM
The only reason I would take issue with the statement "We should pray for those people" is that, statistically, there has to be a good percentage of
really rotten people affected whose deaths will be a positive development. We "could" pray that God will help those who deserve it. Since he keeps
the books, he would know who's who. However, since he DOES know better than we do, wouldn't he make his determination based on value rather than the
prayers of strangers ? Just wondering .
I see where the NFL "Saints" have a real problem on their hands. It doesn't look like they'll be using the Superdome anytime soon and if they could,
how would anybody get there ? Maybe God is irritated with their using the name of some of his workforce.
Getting Out of Town
MrBillM - 8-30-2005 at 02:43 PM
It was just reported on the news that the Governor of Louisiana has stated that they need to evacuate the ENTIRE City of New Orleans. There is no
prospect of being able to provide the basic necessities of life, including potable water.
Who would have ever imagined that they would see the day in their lifetimes when a major U.S. city would be destroyed so badly that it would have to
be emptied out ?
Incidently, while waiting for my wife this a.m. at the Periodontist, I picked up a copy of U.S. News and World Report (July 18) and it includes a
feature article on the possibility of a disastrous Hurricane hitting New Orleans. Unable to finish before my wife's work was done, I asked if I could
keep it.
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Pompano - If anybody would know, it has to be Skeet.Skeet/Loreto - 8-30-2005 at 02:51 PM
God Bless all the People, no matter their Religion, Creed, or Color. May they rest in peace in Their Heaven>Eternity, Paradise or What ever.
If you know that God is in your heart, you never have to Question. Question God is for those poor Souls who have no Hope or Faith in their
Hearts.
Judge Not, Yea yee be Judged!!!
Pomp: Where do you get all those Good Photos/ Would apprecatie the Site. Did not let you Down did I Pomp??Mike Supino - 8-30-2005 at 02:54 PM
I just heard on the radio that extreme looting is taking place throughout New Orleans
you are right...lots of looting happening...got chips?
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 03:06 PM
and it will get worse as time goes on..
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 03:19 PM
Most levees are destroyed..shipping is at a standstill on the Mississippi. Airports closed in 4 states.
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 03:48 PM
At least everyone doesn't have the mentality
jrbaja - 8-30-2005 at 03:49 PM
of surfer jimbob! He wishes it would hit Rosarito so he can watch it from some tourist destination.
One born every minute eh Bill!!bajajudy - 8-30-2005 at 04:06 PM
On MSNBC on the internet there is a 26 minutes helicopter ride up and down the coast that is heartbreaking. Everything is flattened.
The video is called Gulf Coast Devastation. It is under the News Video section.
[Edited on 8-30-2005 by bajajudy]
wreckage of sailboats...
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 04:37 PM
Mike Supino - 8-30-2005 at 04:52 PM
Must not be too many "gators in the Louisiana/Mississippi areasurfer jim - 8-30-2005 at 05:17 PM
Think a SECOND hurricane should hit ....to clean up the looters....
Donations
Cyndarouh - 8-30-2005 at 05:36 PM
What would be really great is if every one that reads Nomad sent $5. $10. $20. or more to help support the Red Cross or the Salvation Army. Look up
your local Chapter on the web. Make sure you say where money is to be donated in the Memo. They really need the money to help these people in a BAD
way.
Just a thought I had. I droped my ck off today and will be doing some Fund raising for The Salvation Army as I am a Volunteer for them and the Red
Cross.
Governor's Evacuation Recommendation
MrBillM - 8-30-2005 at 06:01 PM
The Byline on the story is dated yesterday at 6:13 PDT.
By DOUG SIMPSON
Associated Press Writer
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- With conditions in the hurricane-ravaged city of New Orleans rapidly deteriorating, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Tuesday that
everyone still in the city, now huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers, needs to be evacuated.
"The situation is untenable," Blanco said, pausing to choke back tears at a news conference. "It's just heartbreaking."
The breach of two levees Tuesday meant the city was rapidly filling with water and the prospect of having power was a long time off, the governor
said. She said the storm also severed a major water main, leaving the city without drinkable water.
"The goal is to bring enough supplies to sustain the people until we can establish a network to get them out," Blanco said.
The effort to shore up the largest levee break has apparently failed and the pumps that send the water back to the lake have failed. They expect nine
more feet of water before the city and the lake water levels equilibrate, in the next 12 hours our so. Meanwhile, they've got as many as 60,000
people, many of them badly hurt, in the Superdome, who now have to be evacuated to somewhere else (in the meantime, it's 90 degrees in there, with no
electricity and no water, toilets backing up, people jumping from the upper levels, shootings and carjackings outside, you name it). I just don't see
how they are going to get that done or how they're going to prevent massive disease outbreaks from the terrible conditions. There are going to be
thousands of dead from this.soulpatch - 8-30-2005 at 06:28 PM
Really, the looting is a minor issue in the overall scheme of things. The commercial stuff is or should be insured and it would probably be ruined
anyway.
The real issues are potable water, disease and total loss of lifestyles.
Imagine the sense of loss of people and things you hold dear...... it's gotta hurt.
I'd say, rather surprisingly, that Surfer Jim is taking the bonehead award on this one. Well done, mate.David K - 8-30-2005 at 06:55 PM
Thanks for posting the photos Pompano, they pretty well show how major this turned out to be...
[Edited on 8-31-2005 by David K]
No Problema
MrBillM - 8-30-2005 at 07:02 PM
The REVEREND Jessie Jackson is going to work with Hugo Chavez to see that oil is imported at a discount to those who are needy. Of course, those
needy are going to have a devil of a time figuring out how to do something with that crude oil. Bathe in it to keep off the mosquitos ?
The Eye of the Monster
Pompano - 8-30-2005 at 07:15 PM
One last photo before I go to sleep.....wish all the flood victims could sleep as well and as comfortable. Godspeed rescue missions.
Something to Ponder
MrBillM - 8-30-2005 at 07:28 PM
Sitting here watching Greta Van Sustical "On The Record" and the Hurricane guy pointed out that this current scenario was forecast at the beginning of
the Season. In fact, they rated based on historical data, the area around New Orleans the most dangerous area for this season and it behaved exactly
as their worst case scenario had envisioned. What he was leading up to is the fact that the rest of that early forecast contemplates a second-hit
scenario for the same general region. The conditions out in the Atlantic and off of the Upper East Coast are developing just as that forecast had
predicted.
Brilliant David
jrbaja - 8-30-2005 at 08:31 PM
We can fly them all over here to help in the empty bombers and you can check them all in at the gate.
This was in referrence to another of dk's ridiculous postings, which he again has deleted. And according to his post below, he doesn't seem to
remember the spew that comes out of his mouth on a regular basis.
Same with his ideas on Baja, just a bunch of gibberish from another tourist!
[Edited on 8/31/2005 by jrbaja]David K - 8-30-2005 at 09:24 PM
??
[Edited on 8-31-2005 by David K]
If you can step back and look at the larger picture...
vgabndo - 8-30-2005 at 10:39 PM
The first thing that you hear these red state politicians saying is that as soon as possible they will rebuild in the same spot, but bigger and
better. So lets see. If I can build a house fast enough, I could get it built in the inter-tidal zone, and when the tide comes in, as surely as the
next hurricane will come, FEMA will use your tax dollars to build me another house in the same stupid location.
If you choose to build your house in a hole in the ground surrounded by water in a place where hurricanes are a frequent occurance, you had better
have something bit more bouyant than a belief in the supernatural to keep your butt dry.
At some point, common sense and rationality need to be taken into consideration. Mythology will not provide the food, water and basic necessities that
these poor people need. Those rescue materials will come from the rest of America, and since the blue states provide something like 80% of the US
economic engine, it will be, once again, money from the progressive states that bail these people out. Otherwise, the dominionist theocrats won't have
a dry place to stand.
The plight of these people is certainly pitiful, but equally predictable.
Personally, I'd prefer that all those billions of dollars we will have to send down there were emblazoned with: In Reason We Trust. Several million
simultaneous prayers didn't do squat.
Ok, I'm back in my foxhole, fire away...soulpatch - 8-30-2005 at 10:53 PM
Hey David,
why do you have to bring that chit into the picture??????????? Seriously. can't you leave the religious bullchit/policital out of it?
If this thread is ending..I want it to end on a different note..concerning the disaster, not opinions.
Pompano - 8-31-2005 at 07:12 AM
David K - 8-31-2005 at 07:38 AM
OK... Thanks again Pompano!
When the levy breaks
jrbaja - 8-31-2005 at 08:56 AM
or why Mexicans that are familiar with an area don't build their homes in arroyos.
To rebuild in the same situation would be downright stupidity! When do they start?
To Protect and Serve
MrBillM - 8-31-2005 at 09:11 AM
Watching MSNBC for awhile last night, there was video taken inside a Walmart that was being looted. They were attempting to engage some of the
looters in conversation without much success
(big surprise), but then they came around a corner and there were two Big Mama Police Officers pushing a shopping cart and collecting loot off of the
shelves. Looking through the shoes for the right size. When the Mama Cop farthest away saw the camera, she took off around a corner. The closer one
turned away from the shopping cart and pushed past the camera. When they asked her what she was doing, she said "ma job". And just what was her job
? "Lookin for looters". Obviously, she was successful in finding at least two, including herself.
It's encouraging to see the law at work in time of disaster.
That's pushing it
jrbaja - 8-31-2005 at 09:23 AM
but I did see a clip where they police were allowing the people to take food and water from the stores. Seems fair enough to me.
The rest should be shot.Sharksbaja - 8-31-2005 at 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by jrbaja
but I did see a clip where they police were allowing the people to take food and water from the stores. Seems fair enough to me.
The rest should be shot.
common thievesMike Supino - 8-31-2005 at 12:13 PM
The looters somehow remind me of the million man march a few years back.
I believe that the march was on a weekday and no one missed a day at work
Looting
MrBillM - 8-31-2005 at 12:42 PM
While the looting is wrong, law enforcement has the right attitude. The other problems they are faced with are a lot more important to a limited
force at this time. The perishables would just go bad anyway and the big outfits (probably small ones, too) like Walmart aren't interested in
salvaging any of their inventory. After the "Big One" here in 1992, the stores threw all sorts of good stuff in the dumpsters so they could just
write it off and not have to deal with damaged or scuffed up goods. Besides, many of the element looting are probably better kept occupied at that.
They're less likely to get into other, more harmful mischief.Pompano - 8-31-2005 at 12:52 PM
When I wrote dozens...it was dozens as known. Now unfortunately the numbers will escalate. I acknowledge the increase....sadly.
just a prayer.... of all denominations
Sharksbaja - 8-31-2005 at 02:31 PM
Bless the people of America and our resolve and strength to prevail against all
odds. Our hearts and our hands will be with you in your time of need.
Give What You Can
lindsay - 8-31-2005 at 03:46 PM
I haven't written for awhile on the board but I think that the continuing disaster is one that should move us to action. Yes, there are valid
arguments about rebuilding issues and the risks that people living in these areas face but there will be a time for those discussions. Right now, as
Cyndarouh also encouraged in this thread, is a time when all of us should give what you can. There are immediate needs in these devastated areas and
as many of you living in Baja California know, recovering from the impact of a hurricane is daunting...imagine those efforts on the massive scale we
see now.
So, we may view the related issues of this disaster differently but I don't think any of us can not see the opportunity to give some compassion and
support.Bob H - 8-31-2005 at 03:47 PM
We need to donate whatever we can. This is just horrible. My parents rode it out, near Gulf Shores, AL, but they are OK. They are lucky.
Bob H
i agree,so what exactly can we do to help these people...
eetdrt88 - 8-31-2005 at 03:54 PM
any idea's???Mike Supino - 8-31-2005 at 03:57 PM
Like my Ol' pal Ebenizer once said "Are ther no prisons?"
Giving
MrBillM - 8-31-2005 at 04:32 PM
The Red Cross is probably the best place. They are soliciting cash donations of any size. If a few million people gave 10-20 dollars, it would make
a significant difference. Anyway, that's where I went.
Where is the rest of the world
Baja Bernie - 8-31-2005 at 09:09 PM
Have any of you noticed how many nations around the world are falling over themselves to offer assistance to 'our' nation after it has been dealt an
almost mortal blow by mother nature. 48+ hours and not a peep. Heard today that france would be happy to help--if we asked!
Remember how everybody in the world and half of America jumped all over President Bush and this country because we did not respond with 'enough' money
and only 12 hours after the last diaster struck a small portion of the third world.
I'm sure that they would be glad to help if only our President didn't swagger so much--And, you know, it is his fault that it even happened.
I am sure that we will dig ourselves out of this extreme problem but when we do I think we should remember all of our friends and allies around the
world the next time something untoward occurs in their backyard.
Color me extremely angry as an American who loves his Country.
amen brother...
eetdrt88 - 8-31-2005 at 09:30 PM
those frogs better rally the troops back in europe or we're liable to nuke their sorry assesBajabus - 8-31-2005 at 10:26 PM
I will be leaving in the AM under contract with florida power and light and FEMA to provide emergency communications at various staging areas. Any one
in that area needing help with a starband system please contact me. All my services in this area for folks affected by this disaster are free of
charge.
I will be setting up base at the staging area in Jackson MS at the state fairgrounds. Cell# 919-368-1057 but I don't know if it will be working
there. I should have my tripod set up but it will take a day or two starting tomorrow. I will also be setting up free wireless hotspots if you need
to communicate with the outside world.
Just as in hurricane Juliette I will post pics and info as I gather them
[Edited on 1-9-2005 by Bajabus]roundtuit - 8-31-2005 at 10:47 PM
I've seen the Red Cross selling coffe and doughnuts to us solders going to Vietman and across the street Salvation Army giving them away. (Ft Riely
Kansas) And remember after 9/11 ... $187,000000.00 for new computers
SALVATION ARMY BRINGING RELIEF TO SURVIVORS OF HURRICANE KATRINA
Currently, The Salvation Army is providing relief to residents and first responders in Hattiesburg, Miss., Mobile, Ala., and New Orleans, La.
Additional Salvation Army emergency disaster services vehicles (canteens) are staged in surrounding areas and are prepared to be deployed to other
affected areas once emergency management officials determine it safe. The Salvation Army is prepared to serve 500,000 meals a day as well as provide
emotional and spiritual support to those trying to recover from Katrina?s wrath.
Salvation Army centers in Mobile, Ala., and New Orleans, La., have become safe havens to 500 people who were evacuated due to the storms. The
Salvation Army is providing shelter and food to evacuees, many of whom have no where else to go since the storm annihilated countless homes in its
destructive path. Salvation Army canteens are serving hot meals to residents and first responders throughout Mobile and in Hattiesburg, Miss.
More than 250 Salvation Army volunteers, employees and officers (ministers) will be providing aid from at least 100 canteens that will each be able to
provide up to 5,000 meals a day. The Salvation Army has staged its two 54-foot mobile kitchens in Baton Rouge, La., and Mobile, Ala. They will be
moved to other affected areas once emergency responders determine safe locations.
The Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) has been tirelessly working to provide information concerning the health and welfare of
affected residents to anxious family members and loved ones. In one day SATERN received more than 600 health and welfare requests. Health and welfare
inquiry forms may be found at www.salvationarmyusa.org
At this time The Salvation Army is only asking for monetary donations. A $100 donation will feed a family of four for two days, provide two cases of
drinking water and one household clean-up kit.
Monetary donations may be sent your local Salvation Army earmarked ?Disaster Relief,? made online at www.salvationarmyusa.org or by calling 1-800-SAL-ARMY.David K - 8-31-2005 at 10:48 PM
Thanks Max... I think I can say 'from all of us Baja Nomads'... Best of luck in your efforts!
vgabndo...you made mention of rebuilding, above...
Mexray - 8-31-2005 at 10:57 PM
...I believe FEMA won't provide low cost 'rebuilding' funds for buildings that would be built in the same type of 'flood zone' without being built in
a 'raised' position making the living area ABOVE the highest possible water level for that area - I'm talking about New Orleans, here where the
buildings were below sea level. The other option is for substantial levees to be built that would not fail as easily as the current ones have. There
are many river areas that are protected with levees around the country - the old 100 year flood protection types - but they have been known to give up
the ghost if there is too much water. So I guess you just have to rebuild the best you can, and take your chances - or move on to higher land!
The home built on the coast of Mississippi are another problem all together, as you can't predict the height of the tidal surge during a future storm.
In any event, it's a tough go for these people that have families that have lived in the same area for generations.
there have been disasters of all types, floods, fires, earthquakes, tornado's, etc...and the victims of these ravages of nature have rebuilt on the
'rubble' and carried on with their lives. Some take longer that others, as I think we will see in this current disaster.
The Federal Govt, regardless of who is in power, can only do so much - the rest is up to us. Problem is, Billions will be spend to rebuild in most of
the same places and everything will be fine - till, years from now another huge storm will come crashing into the coast there, and they will be in a
similar mess! Ain't human nature great!Sharksbaja - 8-31-2005 at 11:48 PM
Good on ya Bajabus and Godspeed. I think it's awsome you are in a position to help in a BIG way. Thanks!Bajabus - 9-1-2005 at 06:26 AM
OK I am heading out now......Lordy gas shot up from 2.67 to 3.05 over night here in NC. I sure am glad I filled up all my cans yesterday. will post
when I get there.
Gas Pricing
MrBillM - 9-1-2005 at 09:49 AM
The only station I've seen on the news that was displaying prices above $6.00 was that one BP Station (Georgia ?) and the Chevron station right across
the highway was selling at $2.99. Every media outlet is showing that one clip, but only on Fox have I seen the wide shot showing the Chevron station.
One of the market analysts on Fox News said that it was more likely that the BP owner was trying to conserve his inventory until the supply situation
became clear. Quien Sabe ?
Bernie
jrbaja - 9-1-2005 at 10:33 AM
I think those other countries are intelligent enough to stay away from the looting, gunfire, and politics that seem to be more of a priority than
actually getting in there and saving people.
You know, like when the tsunami hit the Muslim countries. All those "terrorists" working together to save lives and clean up the damage without
looting and shooting.
From what I can see on TV, many of the survivors here have gone without water and food for three days while they watched government vehicles driving
around doing nothing. No wonder they're peeed. Is it because the majority are poor it has taken so long to get the basics in there? That's what they
are thinking I bet.
Pompano can you please post the link?
flyfishinPam - 9-1-2005 at 10:52 AM
Pompano?
Could you please post the link where you got the "Eye of the Monster" image?
Thanks!
threatening approach...too late to run for some
Pompano - 9-1-2005 at 11:24 AM
comitan - 9-1-2005 at 02:40 PM
Well its 4 days gone by doesn't look like much is being done by our Government, things are planned but what about now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess
Bush has all the troops in Iraq.
False alarm just came on the news Bush is going to tour the area again tomorrow.
[Edited on 9-1-2005 by comitan]
Likely trying to conserve his inventory?
DanO - 9-1-2005 at 02:49 PM
Is that a guess or is it based on an interview with the station owner? In either event, it doesn't excuse this kind of behavior and that analyst
needs to get a real job (like maybe pumping gas). If the station owner is charging outrageous prices just so people won't buy his gas now and
therefore have to go across the highway to buy the other guy's gas, then our station owner is intentionally restricting supply to enable himself to
sell at vastly higher prices when the other guy -- who is playing by the rules -- runs out and our station owner has a monopoly on that stretch of
highway. If he's not charging outrageous prices just to discourage people from buying, but is actually selling at that price (perhaps his lines are
shorter, eh?) then he's price gouging right now.Tucker - 9-1-2005 at 04:28 PM
PBS news reports that 77 year old "Fats Domino" who lives in New Orleans 9th ward has not been seen since last sunday.
Wound a Little Tight, DanO ?
MrBillM - 9-1-2005 at 05:07 PM
Things just haven't gone right since McGarrett checked out ?
Whether or not what the ONE Gas station owner was gouging or otherwise wasn't the significant point. The discussion centered around WHY one station
owner surrounded by others would be pricing product so differently. The industry analyst proffered an opinion based on his years in the petroleum
industry. As I said, "Quien Sabe", but it made sense. If, in fact, he is found to be gouging I'm sure that the Law will catch up with him.
As far as him having a "REAL" job, that's the kind of mindless garbage I'm used to hearing from the Manual Labor crowd, who don't believe anybody who
isn't having to sweat at a job is not really a worker. The Analysts have far more influence on a company's fiscal health than the Janitor.
Too bad about Fats Domino, hope they find him OK, but I do have good news. I saved a bundle on my Auto Insurance by calling Geico.
Other good news. They're letting Urine Van Der Snoot out of jail in Aruba. Maybe that'll get the Twittys off TV.
Are we programed by tv?
jrbaja - 9-1-2005 at 06:28 PM
comitan - 9-1-2005 at 06:37 PM
Somewhat-----And just in Fats Domino is OK.vandenberg - 9-1-2005 at 09:22 PM
Did you notice that some of these people , talking about no food getting to them, not having eating in 2 days, could actually not eat for a month,
loose 50 lbs ,and actually still be 50 lbs overweight
my wife donated to the red cross today...
eetdrt88 - 9-1-2005 at 09:25 PM
and if we didnt have kids starting school in a week we both would join up with red cross and go do whatever we could no matter how menial the task, so
that these people could have food and shelter....cyndarouh,i totally agree with you,anything that any of us can do we should...seeing those women
holding babies talking about not having food and shelter is a little more than i can bare...especially considering that we are in a country where
there is more than enough to go aroundvandenberg - 9-1-2005 at 09:30 PM
Huh???
Prenents ?
MrBillM - 9-1-2005 at 09:39 PM
I can't say whether or not someone else should pay for a "Prenents" mistake since I have no idea what a "prenent" is.
uhhh,no
eetdrt88 - 9-1-2005 at 09:57 PM
pokey - 9-1-2005 at 10:31 PM
give me two of what cyndarouh is having.
dude,if you were reading the u2u i just got from cynrouh
eetdrt88 - 9-1-2005 at 10:41 PM
you might not say that...some weird stuff indeed...i guess it doesnt matter that i was basically agreeing with her original post
simple
jerry - 9-1-2005 at 11:30 PM
BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD THERE GO I WHAT WOULD I DO ,SAY,
Pompano
zforbes - 9-2-2005 at 06:08 AM
Thanks for all your reports, pictures, links, etc. As I mentioned on Pam's post, I have a co-worker whose large extended family in the area is still
out of contact. I keep calling her over to my desk to see what you are bringing to us for information, and it has been a help. It really is true that
catastrophe can befall any of us at any time. Not sure why some find it so difficult to understand Cyndarouh's message...it seemed pretty clear to me.
Thanks again. ZoeBob H - 9-2-2005 at 07:25 AM
This is pretty amazing. From the International Herald Tribune.
[Edited on 9-2-2005 by Bob H]TMW - 9-2-2005 at 07:26 AM
I think the governments response has been way too slow and it's not because of Iraq. Take any military base near by with aircraft and load it with
food and water, especially water, and other necessary things and fly it to them. There are several military bases in Alabama, Georgia, North and South
Carolina, Tenn, and Florida with thousands of personel. If necessary go to a Walmart storage centers and load up. Geez, this isn't rocket sicence.
It's someone ordering them to get off their butts and move, now. When I was in the navy we moved 2 million lbs of supplies from a cargo ship to the
carrier with helicopters in a few hrs. They need to adapt and make it happen. Just my opinion.
and when it's over..you go home..
Pompano - 9-2-2005 at 07:33 AM
but then what?
McGarrett
DanO - 9-2-2005 at 12:05 PM
Good point, MBM. Wish I was unwinding back on the beach at Hanalei right now. No TV, no computer, nada. I'll be sure to have more context the next
time I chime in, but my job (no sweating involved) kinda gets in the way of watching TV. BTW, the point of my lame joke about the analyst was that if
he was just speculating, he ought to do something else (anything, not just something involving manual labor), because any knucklehead can hazard that
kind of guess. If it was in fact based on his years of experience in analyzing retail petroleum pricing differentials in atypical supply and demand
scenarios, more power to him.
Make My Day...
Pompano - 9-2-2005 at 02:11 PM
Blood
Natalie Ann - 9-2-2005 at 04:56 PM
There is an important something that most of us Nomigos can do to help in addition to sending cash - an action which will be of great assistance now
and in the long run - Donate a Pint of Blood.
It's easy to do and you'll hardly miss it, and it may help save a life - be she/he survivor of this disaster or some other.
[Edited on 9-2-2005 by Natalie Ann]Tucker - 9-2-2005 at 05:43 PM
A friend reports the story of a Sheriff's car slowly cruising, hub deep through the flood waters, warning people of the breach of a levee. They
encounter a guy sitting on his front porch with his feet in the water, and they literally beg him to get in the car and evacuate. He won't budge and
starts talking about how he's been a good Christian all his life and the Lord will deliver him. The officers have to move on and warn others, so they
go.
A few hours later, they are back with a boat, and the same guy is sitting on his front porch roof, his feet dangling in the water. They emplore him
to get in the boat, but he says he's a good Christian, he's prayed on it, and he knows his god will not foresake him. The officers don't have time to
force him to go, so they move on and try to save other lives.
Just before dark, they see him sitting on his chimney, and they yell down from the helicopter to GET IN THE BASKET!
The water is still rising, you've got no where else to run. But the guy just won't budge, and keeps saying that he's prayed on it and he knows the
Lord will deliver him, and besides for years he says he's given money to Oral Roberts, and Jimmy Bakker, and Jimmy Swaggart, and Pat Robertson, and he
KNOWS his Lord will not foresake him.
Well, only minutes later the house is swept away, and the guy, gaging and coughing is swept under and drowned.
Almost immediately he finds himself in a crowd of other wet dead people in front of Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates, and he is more than a little
ticked off. I am obviously dead, he says to St. Peter and I want an explanation. I've prayed every day, I've been a good Christian, I've given most
of what I've earned to the Evangelists, and I want to know why God didn't save me.
Well, Pete is out of patience. He's been sorting through, and sending hoards of hypocrits to Hell, and he doesn't feel much like answering questions.
But, he gets the guy's name, and starts leafing through a big clipboard until he gets to the guy's name. He looks up with an expression of incredible
disgust and says: What IS your problem, it says here we sent a car a boat and a helicopter.......TMW - 9-3-2005 at 07:56 AM
The following is from a news letter I get. It is one man's story. Added comments are from the news letter editor. TW
Friday, September 2, 2005
________
JOHN BUFFALOE AND HURRICANE KATRINA
As many of you know, John Buffaloe was the man in charge
of Jefferson Pilot's San Diego radio engineering operations for
many years. He had a very successful career with JP, lived in
San Diego County and followed his and his wife's dream to move
to New Orleans where he became Director of Engineering for a
radio cluster in January of this year (CGC #670).
Just before leaving San Diego, however, he had to deal
with the collapse of the KSON(AM) tower structure, and he is
now dealing with a far more difficult situation in the wake of
Hurricane Katrina. Following is John's report, dated today.
He's one of us, and we could well be in his shoes.
______
Greetings all,
Annette and I are fine and in Memphis with friends. She
was already here when Katrina hit, and I arrived last night after
several harrowing experiences. We escaped with both of our cars,
my two favorite guitars and a Crate V-15 amp, various electronic
devices (gotta have that laptop), five days worth of clothes,
some tools and Annette's portfolio negatives.
We don't know the condition of our house, although we do
know it's not under water nor did it ever flood. It has probably
been looted by now, or will be soon. I was fired from my job on
Wednesday, but I won't get into that for obvious reasons.
The power has been out at my 85 year old Dad's house in
Jackson, MS since Monday and will probably be out for another two
to three weeks. He has excellent round the clock assistance which
allows me to be in Memphis with my wife for a little while.
Annette and I had dreamed of leaving southern California for
years and moving to New Orleans to spend the rest of our lives.
We were fortunate that I landed a job there in January and we
moved into a beautiful renovated house in Algiers Point and were
getting on quite well with our new life. I stumbled into an
association with a gospel vocal group called the Zion Harmonizers,
and was honored to be the first Caucasian to be associated with
them in their 56 year history. We did two shows at the House of
Blues Gospel Brunch two weeks ago, and I was featured as lead bass
singer on a song called "Crossing Over." My brother-in-law was
there and is the only family member that ever got to see me with
the Zions. We were to do a short tour in Spain in December and
I was looking forward to performing with them at Jazz Fest in the
spring. I don't know any of the members whereabouts or condition
at this time. They are true gentlemen and devoted Christians
and they accepted me like I was a family member.
This is intended only to inform, not to engender sympathy.
Annette and I are fine and will be fine in the future. All we
have lost is stuff. We have our lives and each other, and we'll
eventually put it all back together and get back on our feet.
We aren't broke by any means, and our insurance will cover most
of our financial losses. Employment for me will become an issue
but I am confidant I'll find something at the appropriate time.
In the meantime, we have a small apartment next door to friends,
and a large support group of other friends here in Memphis.
Considering what's happening in New Orleans right now, and that
either or both of us could still be there, I find myself
extremely lucky to be in the current circumstances.
Many ask the simple question, "What will you do next" which
calls for a million responses. I will actually do my laundry next
as I have been on the road and used up all of my clothing for the
past five days. Then Annette and I will begin to focus on what
needs to be addressed, get centered, and start knocking things
down. It will be somewhere between three and six months before
we can return to assess our house damage and recover whatever
possessions may be left intact.
Sometimes life does funny things to you. While I am certainly
saddened by our misfortune, I very much count myself and Annette
as two of the lucky ones with options to recover. It will take a
couple of years, but we both have our talents and intelligence
and will come out fine.
Thank you all for the encouraging emails and the reaching out
of love and support. It really does help.
The city of New Orleans as we knew it will never exist again.
A new New Orleans will eventually rise, but the "bowl" will be
uninhabitable for years to come. There are thousands of homes
that will have no option but to be demolished, and the land on
which they sit will be contaminated from the chemicals in the
flood waters. What will remain of the old New Orleans will
likely be a small strip of town running between the river and
St. Charles Ave. which will include the French Quarter if they
can get a handle on the levee breaches.
If you can make a donation to the recovery effort, I
urge you to do so. There are two million displaced people, many
without resources and most will never be able to return to their
homes. To say that this is catastrophic is a clich?d
understatement. I was actually on the ground in New Orleans on
Wednesday afternoon, and what I saw was way beyond what you can
imagine from the video on TV. I was fortunate to be flown in
and back out in a helicopter rented by my former company. I felt
sick as I watched others looking up at us as we departed, knowing
I would be free to move forward with my life while they would
soon find themselves in a desperate struggle to survive.
Annette and I are indeed fortunate. Our experience is a
lesson in counting your blessings.
I can be reached via email at mailto:johnbuffaloe%40yahoo.com.
....Please feel free to forward this to whomever you feel may be
interested.
John Buffaloe
______
Please keep John, Annette and their families in your prayers
and thoughts as they face an uncertain future. TWTMW - 9-3-2005 at 08:05 AM
This is from a firefighter friend that sent from CA to help.
TW
9/2/05
OK-Wish I had goodnews.We really haven't been able to do much since there is no support network on the ground. FEMA really has this so farbehind the
curve and are wasting so much money on beauracratic crap and the protection of business, we may never do much to help. I will expand on that later
when I am able.
The flooding is bad, but the damage to many of the smaller communities along the coast are simply gone. Looks more lie tornado damage to me.
Houses just flattened. Lots of homeless folks nowthat were homeowners 4 days ago.
As far as the looting, so far, there are basically 2 distinct types of looters, those that rely on the Gov't for everything and can't believe
they weren't instantly gratified by more freebies and those who absolutely don't trust the gov't in anyway an have probably spent time in Montana in
compounds at some time.
We were told today FEMA doesn't want us taking pictures, anything we do here belongs to them. I will have some to show after my release. The
Gov't has totally screwed the pooch on this one. In some places, the locals aren't helping at all. Yesterday, our swiftwater team(and all other rescue
efforts) were on stand down due to being shot at and threats made. One of the other crews had to have the national guard come in and chase out a gang
of thugs who comandeered their base camp. Making it hard to help those who need it. They need to start implemanting true marshal law and shoot those
who won't respect the laws. Make them fear them. I had hopes that we would see the greatness this country is capable of, unfortunately, all those
folks evacuated when they were told to. May be awhile before I get back to electicity. They are telling us 3 weeks now and are looking for more rescue
personnel to send. We are suppose to go to Gulf Port tommor! row after some sleep tonight.
MartinBajabus - 9-4-2005 at 09:29 AM
Hello there all. I am unable to really post everything I am feeling and seeing down here. It's so emotional and heart wrenching and I am far far to
busy setting up equipment, wifi and training. Moving tomorrow from the state fairgrounds in Jackson down to mcomb (spelling) about an hour south to
get communications for the miultitude of utility companies operating in this area. Best description would be oraganized chaos.
If you do head down here bring Bug spray and mosquito netting. Forget about hotels. Oh and no Gas. As soon as a station gets some, long long long
lines form and they get armed gaurds to keep folks from shooting each other. Jackson the sate capitol has a curfew. Sheer insanity but so many really
good folks going way above the call of duty to keep us all fed and watered.
Will post more when I can. I do have several used 360's with me if you know of anyone down here needing some. My cost or much less (transportation
cost to get it to you ie....gas) if it is a relief organization or church.
My cell # is 919-368-1057
bajadudes(put an at symbol here)starband.net
God Bless you Bus!!
Skeet/Loreto - 9-4-2005 at 09:39 AM
Keep up the good work and thanks for your Posts. Skeet/Loreto
