Look at the Pole Line Rd!

Here's some special pictures of the Pole Line Road in Baja. You may find these entertaining...I hope.

Nice Nomads at the summit of Basketball Hill:


Picture of my directing "Traffic" around obstacle:


Satellite Image by BajaLou:

When I return after the run is completed, I will have more pictures of myself and all of the Jeeps on this EXTREME 4 Wheel Drive trail south of the border!

Here's the Pole Line Road on Howard Gulick's 1962 map...

Steve, as the run is straight through from west to east, you would need to double back to return to your Toyota and exit back the way you came.

Ken, plastic? Is that the name of the stuff used on Jeeps?

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Originally posted by David K Ken, plastic? Is that the name of the stuff used on Jeeps?

We had a guy attend a trek through the Old Dale Mining region near Joshua Tree on Saturday, and he had to leave his brand spankin' new 4WD Tacoma at the base of a few trails due to the low-hanging plastic valance/fog lamp assembly that would have been torn off.


Several of the arroyo crossings will test your new vehicles' approach and departure angles - while overgrown brush will 'pinstripe' your new paint. Just something to prepare mentally for.

Plastic on Jeeps? Hmmm. I've got plastic KC light covers, hub caps, and rear wheel wells. That's about it from me!




[Edited on 12-16-2005 by Ken Cooke]

I agree with TW!!!

Mind you, the Tacoma has a MIN. ground clearance of 9.5" STOCK (under differntials and skid plates, the transfer case guard cross member is higher and running across by it is an exhaust pipe at 10.5" (the next lowest item under my truck). Yes, I got under her with a measuring tape.

While the Jeep Rubicon (which I like, btw) should have better ground clearance and approach/departure angles then my 4 door cushy pickup, the Toyota will most likely last many more miles with fewer problems (Neal says so)!

I was a former new Jeep owner, so I have no hate for them.. In fact, I wish they would keep making pure off road machines like the Rubicon and the proposed new Gladiator truck... and improve on quality.

Here's my 1975 1/2 Jeep Cherokee Chief... in Nov. '75 going from Valle Trinidad to San Felipe (near today's Morelia Jcn.)

David,

I'm only telling you what might happen on the trail down there.
Replacing broken parts costs money, and bodywork takes valuable
time. If you don't care, then, that's up to you. I'm just reminding
you that your approach angle will cause these things to get torn off.

...Don't say I didn't tell you so...

While not a Jeep CJ-5 or Wrangler, my approach angle is not that shallow! I already have done some tough, low range trails with it.

Go up to 'Petroglyph Park' east of El Socorro, or north from Los Martires and out to Socorro like I did.... a great Jeep trail... that I know you will have no problems on since my Tacoma did it with ease!

Wide load ahead!

Then you would love my truck!

Thats' my biggest beef. All the roads were made by itty-bitty Jeeps

When you leave it ... give me the Long & Lat, fill the coolers full of Pacifico, pull out the BBQ so I don't have to dig through the back of the truck, leave Beth sunning herself next to the truck...and come back in two days

And...don't forget to take Jake WITH YOU!

Approach angles - Snomoach angles - Just Do It!

Travel in twos and live your Baja adventure to the fullest!

Here's some approach angles that Ken will like!

Happy Holidays -

PS - I'll be sleeping underneath Stevo's palapa for a few days...consider this my reserveration request. LOL

David, I guess this means you are going to join us? That will be great.
The Nomads and Rubi Roc'ers will be happy to hear your perspective
on this small corner of Baja. I hope the Toyota doesn't get messed up
on the trail too much though. Lots of nice people will be onboard
with lots of experience and a real love for Baja as well...

BTW, You can buy a CB radio at Radio Shack. Power it through the
Cigarette lighter, and use a magnetic mount antenna and you'll have
CB Communications with the rest of the group. This will make our jobs
much easier if you need a spotter or help on the trail.

This is what you want!



[Edited on 12-17-2005 by Ken Cooke]

>>>If the body damage happens while having fun in Baja, then that's just FINE with me!

>>>When is your next run?

We're doing the Pole Line Road in 10 more days. Dec. 27-30th.
Click the link to my website down below, and visit 'Just Runs in Baja' for more details.

>>As I am in San Diego, I am not going to Calexico first... just give me a waypoint and time (in Baja) where your first night camp is going to be (not in the middle of a road, I hope?)...

We're going to stay in Guadalupe Canyon the first night. Do you know where
Guadalupe Canyon is? Rob is being a smarty-pants and will not reserve our
group spaces. I guess groups staying only 1 night get treated like #!@* or
something. Oh well, not staying at the Cohabuzo Jnct. again. Live and
learn I guess. The 2nd and 3rd nights, we'll be staying in the majestic
Canyon Jaquegel and will have time to walk/hike around the canyon like
we're on an actual vacation. Yeah, I like feeling like I'm on a vacation and not
some hardcore Jeep run since that gets pretty damn old real quick. The last
day, we're going to tackle the worst sections of the Pole Line Road.
There's a real steep hillclimb which turns off-camber once you reach the top,
numerous arroyo crossings that will make your backside numb, and the urge
to reach Hwy 5 by mid-day so we can reach the U.S.A. by nightfall.
Once you reach Hwy 5 and air your tires up, we'll turn you loose and
you can find your way back to the U.S.A. or down to Baja Lou's NYE
party in San Felipe. Not sure if you have an entire week to dedicate to
this sort of adventure, but if you do, you're more than welcome to
join all of us.

>>>id I hear you like Latin jazz?

Yes. I worked with Tito Puente Jr. 10 yrs. ago as his West Coast booking
agent/media rep. and got plenty of exposure of that art form on my visits
to Miami and to Toronto where I worked the Latin Fest '95. I got to hear
Los Del Mar perform 'Macarena' and got a copy on CDsingle before the
radio stations began playing it. Hey....Macarena! Aaaaigh!

>>>oes anyone want to hunt for the Lost Diaz Grave?

This is the wrong thread David. This is for people who want to 'wheel their
4WDs on the Pole Line Road. My suggestion is that you start a new
thread for the Lost Diaz Grave, and I'm sure ppl will jump at the chance.
The Pole Line Rd. is a 'Most Difficult' 4WD trail run that takes a minimum of
2 days travel for the insane, or 3 days for the sane. 4 Days and you've got
a real relaxing trail run with time to spend with your friends.

>>>So much Baja... so little time!

Tell me about it.

Oh well, you guys have fun... We have work to Friday PM of that week then down to Lou's and Rob's is the plan... Must be nice to have teacher's holidays!

See you in San Felipe... or on Shell Island?

By the way, the Lost Diaz Grave search area is just a few miles south of the Pole Line Road (north of Borrego Mountain and south of Arroyo Grande).

I will go hunting for it with The Squarecircle on a future trip...

Have a wonderful time!

2 weeks and 1 day...off from work! I deserve this break. With teaching the Emotionally Disturbed, you need a break now and then, because the amount of burnout is unreal. I'll be spending some quality time with friends/family, and then off to Baja for some good times on the trail. Oh, I can't wait...

sorry i havent called you tim but ive been very busy, youve got it bull. pull in and have a beer with me beth and the rest of my buds. ill be out and about tomorrow in my jeep getting firewood for our surf trip and ill give you a kick ass call. we all love our da- bull. ps , me, chris, and bergi went and bought 3 new yamaha grizzlys. phill brought up the ass end and bought a new rhino, theres going to be some ass gicking in the mountains this year.

Baja Britt (20) after a long Baja Mil - She spent over half the race co-driving in El Robi & Chistine (13) co-drove in Chase 1 from early race morning to the finish line running the Excel spread sheets on the laptop - Nuff' said from one Proud Papa -

[Edited on 12-18-2005 by Desertbull]