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sea shells

baja Steve - 2-10-2006 at 09:31 AM

What is the best way to get the smell off the shells and clean them

elgatoloco - 2-10-2006 at 09:33 AM

Soak them in some fresh water with a bit of bleach. Scrub them with a brush.

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 09:48 AM

Leave them on the Beach. it is illegal to take them.

baja Steve - 2-10-2006 at 10:02 AM

Bruce
It might be hard for you to belive but in Oregon it is legal. Do not rember saying they were Mexico

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 10:54 AM

this forum is for Baja topics.

move it to off topic forum please.

Cincodemayo - 2-10-2006 at 10:55 AM

Bruce...Are you the forum police?

bajalera - 2-10-2006 at 11:05 AM

Bruce, you never pick up a pretty shell and take it home-- because that would be illegal. Right?

Cincodemayo - 2-10-2006 at 11:08 AM

The Shell police are monitoring this site as we type....Better hide em:fire:

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 11:39 AM

why not leave them there for every one to enjoy? it seems to be very selfish to take things from the place we all love so just one person can poses the object.

it starts with a shell then a cactus plant then the next door persons car. soon you will be robing banks and flying planes into large buildings.:o

vandenberg - 2-10-2006 at 11:46 AM

Hey Bruce.
I want some of what you're having:P:P:P:P

Cincodemayo - 2-10-2006 at 11:51 AM

Hitting those shots a little early? Must be those Mohammad cartoons....

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 12:01 PM

each sea shell represents the final resting place of a life lost at sea. therefor disturbing them in any manner is the same as desecrating a grave yard. it doesn't mater if it is Oregon , Baja or outer Mongolia.:biggrin:

Bob and Susan - 2-10-2006 at 12:18 PM

I keep breaking them when I walk on the beach:lol:

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 12:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
I keep breaking them when I walk on the beach:lol:


wrap your feet in foam rubber and walk softly.

Taco de Baja - 2-10-2006 at 01:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
why not leave them there for every one to enjoy? it seems to be very selfish to take things from the place we all love...


Not to mention rather shellfish too....:lol:

abreojos - 2-10-2006 at 02:02 PM

10 years ago, in Abreojos, you could pick up abalone shells and whale bones off the beach. You could also find arrowheads everywhere and I have seen collections that rival anything I have seen in any museum in Baja. Well, the abalone shells are being sold by the coop for various things, the whale bones are decorating various homes and the arrowheads are being smuggled back to the states to sell by surfers to financing their trips. There are laws against this, but no one to enforce it and like most things it will be too late before anyone does. Enjoy Baja, the Oregon coast or where ever for what it is while it is because there is no going back to what it was in our lifetime.

Don Alley - 2-10-2006 at 03:37 PM

I'm guilty. I've got some shells.
Is that a problem? Is the law reasonable?

Maybe. On the Oregon beaches, it seems there is always a local up at the crack of dawn, basket in hand, scouring the beach for anything of interest that might have washed up in the night. The result is some really poor beachcombing.

But at least they are dead, inanimate objects. They will no longer reproduce. The taking of live molluscs, then treating them to remove any trace of life for the purpose of collecting the shell is another matter.

So, back to the original question:
Quote:
Originally posted by baja Steve
What is the best way to get the smell off the shells and clean them


Simple, just leave them where they are. They are not ready to collect yet.;D

OK, so, my question: How do they dry those porcupine puffers so they are inflated with the spines sticking out?:lol:

Puffer Fish

Dianamo - 2-10-2006 at 03:56 PM

They remove the insides through a slit on the belly, then they stuff them full of sand until they dry, then sew up the underside. I asked a local about it!;D

Remember puffer fish are poisonous to dogs if the dog eats it!

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 04:39 PM

Mexico hits Sea shells traffickers

Since President Vicente Fox came to power in 2000, 36,000 Sea shells traffickers have been arrested, among them top figures from almost all the cartels, according to the National Center for Analysis Planning and Intelligence against Organized Crime in Mexico City (CENAPI).

Furthermore, more than 2,000 police officers were investigated for corruption in connection with Sea shells trafficking, and 711 officers were ultimately charged with offenses ranging from receiving bribes from cartels to kidnapping and murder. The former state police chief in Ciudad Ju?rez is under investigation for murder.

But, observers say, these crackdown may have added to the violence.

Walters admits there have been some unwanted consequences to the arrests. "President Fox has taken an aggressive role which leads to ... power vacuums and destabilization, with one cartel attacking the other," he says. "In a way the violence is terrible but also a sign that the cartels are being squeezed by government."

Chabat says Fox has gone far in fighting the cartels, but not far enough. Fox, says Chabat, is like a "poor guy trying to impress a rich girl" - the US. "He gets a nice car for the evening, but does not have money for flowers." Fox, says Chabat, has arrested some of the top Sea shells lords - but is unable or unwilling to reform the justice or police system enough to finish the job.

US officials claim that the Mexican government's reluctance to extradite top Sea shells criminals - the way Colombia has - is hampering efforts. Colombia has extradited 173 Sea shells suspects since 2002, including many major figures, to the US. Mexico extradited a record 34 in 2004, but no major Sea shells lords.

"I understand the difficulty in extraditing nationals, but left in Mexican jails these people continue to run the show," says Walters.

"And the show," adds Ju?rez police chief Navarette, "is not a pretty one."

WOW

Al G - 2-10-2006 at 04:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Mexico hits Sea shells traffickers

Since President Vicente Fox came to power in 2000, 36,000 Sea shells traffickers have been arrested, among them top figures from almost all the cartels, according to the National Center for Analysis Planning and Intelligence against Organized Crime in Mexico City (CENAPI).

Furthermore, more than 2,000 police officers were investigated for corruption in connection with Sea shells trafficking, and 711 officers were ultimately charged with offenses ranging from receiving bribes from cartels to kidnapping and murder. The former state police chief in Ciudad Ju?rez is under investigation for murder.

But, observers say, these crackdown may have added to the violence.

Walters admits there have been some unwanted consequences to the arrests. "President Fox has taken an aggressive role which leads to ... power vacuums and destabilization, with one cartel attacking the other," he says. "In a way the violence is terrible but also a sign that the cartels are being squeezed by government."

Chabat says Fox has gone far in fighting the cartels, but not far enough. Fox, says Chabat, is like a "poor guy trying to impress a rich girl" - the US. "He gets a nice car for the evening, but does not have money for flowers." Fox, says Chabat, has arrested some of the top Sea shells lords - but is unable or unwilling to reform the justice or police system enough to finish the job.

US officials claim that the Mexican government's reluctance to extradite top Sea shells criminals - the way Colombia has - is hampering efforts. Colombia has extradited 173 Sea shells suspects since 2002, including many major figures, to the US. Mexico extradited a record 34 in 2004, but no major Sea shells lords.

"I understand the difficulty in extraditing nationals, but left in Mexican jails these people continue to run the show," says Walters.

"And the show," adds Ju?rez police chief Navarette, "is not a pretty one."

It is a good thing I never got addicted to "shell" It was hard enough putting MJ to my lips and not puffing! I didn't know there were so many "shell" addicts in the world:lol::lol::lol:

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 05:15 PM

the problem gets bigger each and every year.

bajajudy - 2-10-2006 at 05:22 PM

Dianamo
We always keep hydrogen perocide in the car for fish poisoning. Force about a teaspoon down the dog's throat and he will puke withing a minute. Then make sure that he drinks lotsa water.
Have never had to use it, thank dog.

Bruce R Leech - 2-10-2006 at 05:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajajudy
Dianamo
We always keep hydrogen perocide in the car for fish poisoning. Force about a teaspoon down the dog's throat and he will puke withing a minute. Then make sure that he drinks lotsa water.
Have never had to use it, thank dog.


make sure it is the 3 percent hydrogen peroxide that you buy in the drug store.

if it is the 6 percent hydrogen peroxide that they use on hair you will kill the dog

capn.sharky - 2-10-2006 at 05:59 PM

Is it illegal for Mexican people to take the shells too? If so, how come there is so much jewelry made from the shells in Loreto. I know a Mexican that has thousands of them in his front yard. He is about three houses away from the local police station. He takes them to Tijuana and New Mexico where they are made into beautiful jewelry. Also, what is so bad about disturbing the graveyards of the world? Gosh, people are just dying to get in there.

backninedan - 2-10-2006 at 06:36 PM

I tried smoking shells Bruce, but there to hard to keep lit.

bajajudy - 2-10-2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for clarifying that Bruce.
Being a natural blond, I never even thought that anyone would feed a dog that stuff.

Don Alley - 2-10-2006 at 08:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capn.sharky
Is it illegal for Mexican people to take the shells too? If so, how come there is so much jewelry made from the shells in Loreto. I know a Mexican that has thousands of them in his front yard. He is about three houses away from the local police station. He takes them to Tijuana and New Mexico where they are made into beautiful jewelry. Also, what is so bad about disturbing the graveyards of the world? Gosh, people are just dying to get in there.


It's a fishing license thing, I think. Non-resident licenses only allow taking of finfish. The prohibition on taking shells is included with the prohibition of taking shrimp, lobsters, and clams. I'm not sure if the law is an environmental/conservation law, or economic protectionism for the benefit of the locals, who I believe are allowed to take what they want.

I wouldn't want to get caught transporting commercial quantities of sea shells in Mexico, though. :o

Paula - 2-10-2006 at 08:46 PM

Bajajudy, I hope you never have to use that peroxide!! Our dog once ate a whole batch of choclate chip cookies -- way too much dark chocolate for a dog. The vet said to give him peroxide, then watch him closely for several hours. He barfed all over the yard, and we thought nothing more could possibly come up. I had a plane to catch, so in order to continue watching him, we put him in the back seat and drove off. It was my good fortune to be the one flying that day, because Don had a carfull of the vilest barf we had ever seen to deal with. It seemed as though Fillmore, who was about three years at the time, had retained everything he had eaten in his entire life for the occasion.:barf:

Pompano - 2-10-2006 at 08:58 PM

We had to give that hydrogen peroxide treatment to our young chocolate lab last year because of something she ate on our beachfront. She barfed and barfed...everywhere, but I think it saved her life.

Her litter mate, Eygpt, survived too. We called her Eygpt because whenever she visited a room, she left a pyramid.

You may groan if you like.

Paula - 2-10-2006 at 09:40 PM

yes, and we would do it as necessary anytime too...