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San Borja Mission Road. april 2006

BAJACAT - 4-10-2006 at 08:48 PM

Hi every body just got back from Baja putting about 1000 miles to my truck in just 5 days.well back to bussines. I wast told by some one if there is two roads to your destination try booth..So the firts road we try was the one from El nuevo Rosarito south of Bola hwy. its a 22 mile trip the road is bad on sections but over all it was good we travel about 45 per hour so we reach the mission and less than and hour (50 minutes) . Las tinajitas road was almost the same but I will recomend 4wd for this side trip you also need a guide from the mission because the road is close with a chain .
We left San Borja to Bola and try the other road, with is about same 22 miles according to the book.On this one we left at 6:05 and reach Bola hwy at 7:10pm this road is equal to the one from the south of Sborja. exept I like this one better it is more senary. Montevideo road is about the same but it has alot sections with deep sand but it's worth the drive this painting site is just unbelievable., I will be posting pictures latter from ( San borja mission and hot springs san fernando mission and rock art from san fernando, santo domingo,las tinajitas,montevideo,la gringa,bola,el marmol,la lobera,catavina cave art, musseum El Palmerito at catavina, Santa Ana visita from San Borja..

[Edited on 9-27-2006 by BAJACAT]

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David K - 4-10-2006 at 11:50 PM

Gracias!

Ken Cooke - 8-13-2006 at 01:24 PM

Thanks for all of the info. I plan on rolling through this area in November w/a few Jeeps.

Paula - 8-13-2006 at 08:21 PM

Bajacat,

I should have posted a report sooner about our trip through San Borja in early July. Your posts and pictures inspired Don and I to take that side trip on the way north-- you gave us much good information.

We drove from Loreto to Guerrero Negro on the first day, and left early in the morning for San Borja. The road from Nuevo Rosarito was easy to find, and conditions were good. We spent about 1 hour driving to the mission with a few photo stops.
At the Mission Vonni was our tour guide. She is 13 years old, and one of the care-taker family. It is a beautiful church. I loved being able to go up the staircase. The views from the roof were very interesting. Vonni loves to take pictures, and used my camera to record our visit for us. I did get to take one of her by the baptismal font where she said she was baptised. I would love to post some pix, but I still haven't learned how. We also met Vonni's brother Jose Angel, who wanted to show us the cave paintings. We agreed that we must come back when we can camp and see more of the area, as we had a deadline for getting to Montana. I was really impressed with the English skills of the teenagers! They have learned all they know from tourists. Jose Angel said they get just 1 or 2 groups per week.
We left by the road to Bahia de Los Angeles, but didn't stop there, going instead directly to the highway. I hope we do get there again to see more of the area in the fall.
Normally we drive from Loreto to San Quintin in one day, and then past Los Angeles CA on the 2nd. It is so much more enjoyable to take an extra day for a side trip. It actually makes the trip seem shorter. Going south we are always in a hurry to get to our Loreto home, but I hope we always take time to see parts of Baja we've missed when going north in the future.

So thank you, Bajacat for your enthusiastic and detailed report. We might not have done it without your info!

Neal Johns - 8-13-2006 at 09:08 PM

San Borja is a great place to visit and be sure to visit Jose's ranch house next to the Mission. Jose and family will guide you to any nearby destination and are really nice people. I agree that the road from the BOLA highway is the most scenic, and it goes by the side roads to Montevideo and Las Tinajitas.

nO PROBLEM PAULA

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 09:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Paula
Bajacat,

I should have posted a report sooner about our trip through San Borja in early July. Your posts and pictures inspired Don and I to take that side trip on the way north-- you gave us much good information.

We drove from Loreto to Guerrero Negro on the first day, and left early in the morning for San Borja. The road from Nuevo Rosarito was easy to find, and conditions were good. We spent about 1 hour driving to the mission with a few photo stops.
At the Mission Vonni was our tour guide. She is 13 years old, and one of the care-taker family. It is a beautiful church. I loved being able to go up the staircase. The views from the roof were very interesting. Vonni loves to take pictures, and used my camera to record our visit for us. I did get to take one of her by the baptismal font where she said she was baptised. I would love to post some pix, but I still haven't learned how. We also met Vonni's brother Jose Angel, who wanted to show us the cave paintings. We agreed that we must come back when we can camp and see more of the area, as we had a deadline for getting to Montana. I was really impressed with the English skills of the teenagers! They have learned all they know from tourists. Jose Angel said they get just 1 or 2 groups per week.
We left by the road to Bahia de Los Angeles, but didn't stop there, going instead directly to the highway. I hope we do get there again to see more of the area in the fall.
Normally we drive from Loreto to San Quintin in one day, and then past Los Angeles CA on the 2nd. It is so much more enjoyable to take an extra day for a side trip. It actually makes the trip seem shorter. Going south we are always in a hurry to get to our Loreto home, but I hope we always take time to see parts of Baja we've missed when going north in the future.Yes Paula San Borja it's agreat place to visit, Genaro the oldes son of Jose was My guide to the cave paintings the hot springs ant of course the Mission. on my way back to Bola whe stop in Montevideo that place is incredible

So thank you, Bajacat for your enthusiastic and detailed report. We might not have done it without your info!
Yes Paula San Borja it's agreat place to visit, Genaro the oldes son of Jose was My guide to the cave paintings, the hot springs ,and of course the Mission. on my way back to Bola whe stop in Montevideo that place is incredible Im sorry you din't make it, the photos of the mission I can fin them thats why I have't post them. but if you need help send the photos to me or David K and whe will happy to help you with that just like when Dk help me.Well I hope my report was a help to you even do it was a little bit small, I will try my best next time, and yes Genaro my guide speak english too, but since spanish is my firts language he insisted in english only so he could practice.

Montevideo

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 09:38 PM

San Borja cave art aka ( Las tinajitas).

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 09:39 PM

Last one ,Bola at sunrise

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 09:40 PM

David K - 8-30-2006 at 09:40 PM

Hola Gato... Is Jose's family once again being allowed to give tours INSIDE the mission church?

Hola Dk

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 09:50 PM

Yes David, Jose's son told me that the priest in charge in Guerrero Negro , agree on returning the keys back to the them since jose's family has take care of the mission for years even afther they turn Christians and left the catholic faith. that's why somebody from GN took the keys from them, and the only thing they where allowed to show was the hot springs and the Tinajitas and anything around the mission.So its a good thing they came to there sencess beacuse jose's famiky is the perfect people to take care of the mission they know everything about it..

Neal Johns - 8-30-2006 at 10:02 PM

That is great news, BAJACAT. They are indeed the perfect people to show the Mission and surrounding.
Anyone going there, please take a little something for the family. Rich in worldly possessions they are not.

BAJACAT - 8-30-2006 at 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Neal Johns
That is great news, BAJACAT. They are indeed the perfect people to show the Mission and surrounding.
Anyone going there, please take a little something for the family. Rich in worldly possessions they are not.
:yes: I agree Neal :yes:

shari - 8-31-2006 at 12:33 PM

I'm so happy to hear Jose and family can take you through the mission again,they are good amigos of ours...I have a suggestion...anyone planning to go please bring some things for them like instant or any kind of coffee, tea, sugar, and coffee creamer...they love it...they always serve people for free and need to replenish their larder...also treats for the kids and clothes as well, they are very generous people and so tip them well. Give them our love too...

Jose's Family in July, 2003

David K - 8-31-2006 at 06:39 PM

Debra - 8-31-2006 at 08:03 PM

I was there in March, took a 5in. gash in the side of my tire, then my jack failed. My brother hiked the 6 miles back to the Mission to get help. Angel is the young man's name that gave us the tour. He came back with a truck and jack, my brother changed the tire....I gave him $10 for his help and thanked him (I had also tipped him for the mission tour, $20 if I remember right) after it was time to go on our way, he asked if I would like him to follow us back to the hi-way, I said yes I would like that (I now had no spare) well once we arrived at the hi-way, I got out, walked back to thank him again and the little hi-way robber demanded $40 for following me! (I gave him $30) :lol: Of course I had to buy a spare to get home with from the Diaz's ($45), not to mention the new tire I had to buy when I finally got home. All in all a pretty expencive tour of the Mission....My brother told me it was one of the high lights of his first trip to Baja, so it was all worth it.

Road to Santa Ana visita

BAJACAT - 9-26-2006 at 10:29 PM



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On the way back we visited El Marmol

BAJACAT - 9-26-2006 at 10:31 PM

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Santa Ana

David K - 9-26-2006 at 10:39 PM

Santa Ana grave, palms in background (DK photo):


'Padres at rest' next to the above stone covered grave, photo by BajaTaco:


The old road south then southwest from San Borja is almost non-existant and will give your rig Baja pin stripes!

Ha! those damm branches

BAJACAT - 9-29-2006 at 11:07 PM

Yes Dk Im living proof of that, my truck still sports some deep pin stripes, Actually Bajataco's photo of !Padres at rest ! is the one that made me wanted to go there...