Just like the Chupacabra (Flying Bat Blood sucker), do roaming mustachoed men on horseback with big sacks really exist? Has anyone ever seen one in
person? Or, is this just Baja and mainland folklore? bajajudy - 4-26-2006 at 08:47 PM
Si estan aqui.
Cuidado
no vienen aqui
muy peligroso
muy mal
muy...............
mucho mejor
[Edited on 4-27-2006 by bajajudy]Diver - 4-26-2006 at 09:26 PM
Never seen them on horseback but have seen a few modern ones driving old Toyota pick-ups with "Got Baja" stickers !!!
Watch your beers !!
[Edited on 4-27-2006 by Diver]
(I can't spell either)
[Edited on 4-27-2006 by Diver]
Ken----
Barry A. - 4-26-2006 at 10:30 PM
-----rent "The treasure of the Sierra Madre", and come to your own conclusion-------and they don't need no stinkin badges, either.
yes they do
mulege marv - 4-27-2006 at 05:46 AM
Osprey - 4-27-2006 at 06:09 AM
There came a time when I had fallen in love with Baja California and feared losing it to the hordes from the north. I vowed that if I saw a great
increase in traffic I would grow a moustache, put on some bandoliers and rape some nuns. What a clown I was. I coulda just got on the radio or the
TV and gave warnings about kidnappings in TJ. Some nuns are tough.Oso - 4-27-2006 at 07:20 AM
Off the coast of Somalia one rarely sees the Jolly Roger or peg-legged men with parrots on their shoulders weilding cutlasses, but there are pirates
nonetheless. Bandoliers, big sombreros and horses may be out of fashion, but the "cuerno de chivo" (AK47) is very much in fashion and there are
places like rural Sinaloa that I would be very nervous about traveling through without a large convoy. The mustache is a matter of personal taste
among bandits.comitan - 4-27-2006 at 07:40 AM
Years ago while staying at a beach on the Mainland called Tenacatita(Jalisco) we were exploring every area we could find, on our ATV one day while on
this dirt overgrown road there in front of us was this Mexican on horseback, with rifle everything menacing, all he said was " you do not belong here"
we exited rapidly. I don't think he was a Bandito, just a Farmer protecting his crop ?Marinero - 4-27-2006 at 10:16 AM
Mexico, United States, Europe......everywhere. Of course they exist, pendejos ser? pendejos.TMW - 4-28-2006 at 07:01 AM
A few years ago near Valle de Trinidad there were some armed bandits stopping prerunners before the Baja 500/1000 races. It lasted a couple of years.
Haven't heard of anything recent.djh - 4-28-2006 at 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
Some nuns are tough.
Osprey... You are cooking them wrong...
On a serious note, however...
It seems all of the Banditos (both in the US and Mexico) are now way to busy in Washington DC and D.F. to ride horses or shake down individual
tourists... And they don't wear bandoliers and sweat in the hot sun... 3 piece suits and 3 hour lunches with big money interests....
For the times they are a changin'.....
djhbajalera - 4-28-2006 at 02:44 PM
The guy trying to climb over our fence last Saturday night didn't have a pointy-crowned sombrero or a rifle. But it's unlikely that an 11:40 p.m.
visit qualifies as a social call, so I'd say he was probably a La Paz bandido.
Lera-----
Barry A. - 4-28-2006 at 04:40 PM
somebody needs to talk to these folks and to let them know that they are out of costume (regalia?)------after all, we all know what banditos are
supposed to look like, and I say that they better "get with it" or there reputation will be ruined----and who ever heard of one coming over a fence???
Disgraceful!!! Things they are a-changing.
By the way, do you happen to know if the Mexican drug lords wear bandoleros and pointy sombreros?? If so, this new proposed liberal "law" will change
all that------nobody will know who is what!!!
What a mess!!! and if the proposed law goes thru, what will happen to all the army check points??? No mas neccessario???
banditos
bancoduo - 4-28-2006 at 07:56 PM
It is spanish for robbers. It is not some folklore movie character. Don't be misled Baja is a dangerous place nowadays. Don't let the developers
bullchit you. The worst banditos are ex-cops and present cops.
ken cooke
bancoduo - 4-28-2006 at 08:14 PM
Vested interest. JEEP DEALER:moon::moon::moon::moon::moon:Oso - 4-28-2006 at 09:36 PM
"banditos. It is Spanish for robbers."
Actually, it is not. At least there is no such word in my unabridged LaRousse. There is a listing for "Bandido", however.thefishaholic - 4-29-2006 at 07:31 AM
Have to share a story that happened while I was building my house in Cabo. (1997)
I had to run to the local lumber yard at lunch one day and left my (framers) bags ( over a $100), a speed square, tape measure, skil saw, level,
hammer and a large framing square.
I returned and some one ripped me off!!
I had left the tools right out in the open and we had no fence or security measures.
I guess someone needed a hammer as that is all they took.
In the whole time I was there ( 2 1/2 yrs) other than mechanicos (boat) ripping us off, and coyotes selling charters that we did not authorize, we
never lost a dime and were helped many, many times by locals in Cabo and up and down the Baja.
232 beers til BajaBob and Susan - 4-29-2006 at 07:40 AM
"232 beers til Baja"
10 days?
Banditos
baitcast - 4-29-2006 at 09:17 AM
Reminds me of the time in the mid 60,s while camping in front of PaPa Fernandez house,a typical noon day scene,cool breeze,kids playing in the water
and I and mama kicked back in the shade.
Life was good and I was nearly asleep when my wife said "there is somebody coming" visitors were very uncommon so I took a look and
my god its a group of banditos armed to the teeth on horse back headed straight for us,my first thought was the kids,where will I hide the wife.
Upon closer inspection they turned out to be federal troops on horse back!!! with a couple of jeeps,I held my breath,what did I do? should
I run for it ? they talked to PaPa for awhile and turns out they were
looking for two bad guys on horse back
BAITCAST
Just another great day on the gulf.bajalera - 4-29-2006 at 02:28 PM
Oso, I thought banditos were short bandidos, and that being height-challenged is why these guys wear the tall pointy hats.
Lera-------
Barry A. - 4-29-2006 at 02:45 PM
------- That is funny!!!!!!!
best laugh I have had today. Thank you.shari - 4-29-2006 at 02:56 PM
My husband and I had a scary close call with road bandidos between Vizcaino and Asuncion on a very lonely dark part of the paved road. There was a
truck stopped on the road and 3 men around it....as usual we stopped to see if they needed assistance but something didn't feel right....they said
they had a flat tire and asked if we had a screwdriver??? We said no and continued on our way both a little nervous when behind us we see the truck
pull a U turn very fast and start coming after us....yikes...we floored it and got the the junction where you turn off onto the dirt road and it was
there that the truck gave up the chase....guess they didn't like washboard...lesson learned, we don't stop anymore at night for disabled vehicles we
don't recognize and try not to travel that road at night. Also with the increase of drug problems, particularly crystal, petty crime has soared in
these parts and our paradise is becoming increasingly less safe, although we still leave the keys in our car.... Another friend encountered a truck
blocking the highway crosswise in the same part of the road and so he pulled a fast U turn and bolted back to Vizcaino to the cop shop...beware of
bandidos!Skeet/Loreto - 4-29-2006 at 02:56 PM
Lera: I am going to be in La Paz on June 15, depart back North the next Morning on the 7;00 Am.
How about a date?
Skeet/Loreto
Anon the Preacher
Skeeter Peter
SkeetTexasbajalera - 4-30-2006 at 10:16 AM
Well okay, amigo, see ya then!Roberto - 4-30-2006 at 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Cooke
Chupacabra (Flying Bat Blood sucker)
I'll be picky, once again.
Chupacabra translates this way, I believe (Oso?):
chupar = to suck
cabra = goat (female goat to be precise?)
So, a Chupacabra is a female-goat-sucker.Oso - 4-30-2006 at 10:54 AM
Roberto, you are being a bit picky. Cabra is indeed feminine, but it's also used for goats in general. The usual translation is simply "goatsucker".
But, the legend has nothing to do with flying bats. The creature is usually described as a bipedal mammal.Roberto - 4-30-2006 at 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Roberto, you are being a bit picky...
\
Yes, of course. It's exactly the same in Italian - it was just a lame attempt at linguistic humor Oso - 4-30-2006 at 07:29 PM
Just for the heck of it, I googled the term, substituting an "f" for the "s". It came up with quite a few references. Surprisingly (or maybe not),
the majority of them had to do with the current administration and party in power. Really. Try it and see. Perhaps a different search engine would
produce different results?
chupacabra in Bahia Asuncion
shari - 4-30-2006 at 08:31 PM
And just when you thought the chupacabra was a myth...yep folks the legendary Chupacabra reared it's ugly head here 6 years ago and my husband was a
translator for the team of scientists that came to investigate the incident. Seven goats were lifted out of a pen 6" high and thrown around and were
found with their blood sucked out. They all had puncture wounds in the jugular and marks on their backs where they were lifted out. There were no
tracks anywhere around the pen so it wasn't a biped at all. There is even a video of the investigation...oooo....scary...A mystery indeed! And there
were subseqent incidents, the next day in Argentina..that sucker flies muy rapido!Oso - 4-30-2006 at 10:24 PM
A six inch high pen doesn't sound very confining.
[b]Bandido Subcomandante Marcos[/b]
villadelfin - 5-4-2006 at 09:14 AM
[Edited on 5-5-2006 by villadelfin]shari - 5-5-2006 at 12:18 PM
oops, yeah, the goat pen was 6 feet, that's 2 meters and it's all very mysterious indeed! but real stuff!Stickers - 5-5-2006 at 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by shari
And just when you thought the chupacabra was a myth...yep folks the legendary Chupacabra reared it's ugly head here 6 ..... There is even a video of
the investigation...oooo....scary
I sure would like to see that video. Mango - 5-14-2006 at 01:28 AM
Howdy everyone, this is my first post here; but, I guess I have to start somewhere.. so here goes.
I have traveled a few times through northern BC and extensively throughout mainland Mexico many times during the last 10 years or so.
During part of my first trip traveling throughout Mexico I took the Copper Canyon train from Los Mochis to Creel. I was traveling alone and another
woman from the United States that I met on the train told me that the train had been held up 3 days before. A european tourist was filming the
hold-up with their video recorder and refused to hand it over. He was shot in the face and died.
15 minutes after talking with this woman the train came to a halt. After about 1/2 hour of waiting about 40 or 50 well camouflaged federal troops
melted out of the bushes right before my eyes. They got on the train and added to the already impressive security. The rest of the train trip went
without incident.
Two days later I was talking to a federal soldier at a checkpoint near Batopillas. He told me they had 300 federal troops and two helicopters
tracking the suspected bandits. He told me they were, "taking this very seriously and were not messing around."
Four or five years later, while in Los Alamos near the copper canyon area, a local told me a story about the same bandits. He told me that they
"dissapeared" after the Army swept through the area. He and everyone else suspected they were in a shallow grave somewhere. He suspected there would
be no bandit trouble in the area for at least another 10-15 years until the next crop of children/future bandits grows up and looked to crime without
knowing the fate of previous bandits.
The same cautious local would not drive his truck on the dirt/gravel roads outside of town after night, and would "never" drive far up into the hills.
For the most part Mexico is very safe and the people are very nice. Each part of Mexico is a little different and has different "rules". Sinaloa,
D.F., Guerrero and the Frontera are the places I'd watch out the most. I'll pretty much go anywhere during the daytime; but, I find a safe place and
stay put at night as a general rule.
I've been though many of the towns in southern Mexico that have had bandit trouble with the EZLN. I have never had a problem; but, I was in a bus
that stopped for a man laying faced down in the road motionless. My first instinct was to get out and administer first aid; however, I waited to see
what the bus driver would do. He got on the radio and called someone...I thought.. maybe the army checkpoint we had just passed trough just a few
kilometers before. Since it was EZLN territorry (There was a sign posted on the road and the police had not removed it.) I stayed in the bus. It
could have been some sort of "trap". We drove off. I felt bad for not helping the man; but, I did not want to become a hostage/victim, etc..
To stay out of trouble pretty much anywhere in the world don't travel at night, don't flaunt wealth, be aware of your surroundings, smile, be nice,
and treat people as the equals that they are.