Cigars in Baja

Hey Diver you and I have similar tastes, diving and cigars!! But not at the same time

Just before and after ! I always love the looks on the novice's faces.
Although I can't make a 50 last for an hour at 60 feet anymore.

Go to an 80 (or a steel 130!!) and Nitrox : That'll get you an hour at 60fsw.

[Edited on 5-30-2006 by Ken Bondy]

OK, as long as we are now talking about cigars other than Cubans... my all time favorite cigar (not as cheap but still reasonable) are the La Flor Dominicana "Chisel" Double Ligero cigars... After years of aging their estate grown ligero tobaccos, La Flor created this Full Bodied cigar. The wrapper is Ecuadorian Sumatra, the balance of the cigar is Dominican from the estate. Continuing their trend of making powerful cigars, La Flor created the Double Ligero. All fillers and the binder are Dominican from the estate. The smoke is finished off with a dark Ecuadorian Sun Grown wrapper. The "chisel" effect on the puffing end is outstanding!
You can get them here...
http://www.whatsknottolove.com/cigars.php/89
but google them for price shopping. I think last time I purchased them from Thompsons, Famous Smoke Shop or JR Cigars, not sure. But, they are so tasty you cannot believe it.
Bob H

Cuban cigars

Is it legal to buy a Cuban cigar in Mexico?

No. This is a new Bush administration law:

http://www.treasury.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/cu...

From the Dept of the Treasury:

Transactions Involving Cuban-Origin Goods in Third Countries

The question is often asked whether United States citizens or permanent resident aliens of the United States may legally purchase Cuban origin goods, including tobacco and alcohol products, in a third country for personal use outside the United States. The answer is no. The Regulations prohibit persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States from purchasing, transporting, importing, or otherwise dealing in or engaging in any transactions with respect to any merchandise outside the United States if such merchandise (1) is of Cuban origin; or (2) is or has been located in or transported from or through Cuba; or (3) is made or derived in whole or in part of any article which is the growth, produce or manufacture of Cuba. Thus, in the case of cigars, the prohibition extends to cigars manufactured in Cuba and sold in a third country and to cigars manufactured in a third country from tobacco grown in Cuba.

Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC.

And they give a phone # to rat on people.


I won't tell.

Marinero,

In February or March of 2002 I made a legal trip to Cuba. It was a little easier then. I brought back Havana Club rum, 2 cigars, some handmade musical instruments, and 3 small paintings, among other things. At that time you could bring unlimited artesanal items, books and tapes or cd's, and up to $100 in manufactured goods. It all came through customs in Miami, all was declared, no problems.

It was an educational trip, and the group leaders discouraged shopping. Of course we ignored them!

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Originally posted by Don Alley Is it legal to buy a Cuban cigar in Mexico? No. This is a new Bush administration law: http://www.treasury.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/cu... From the Dept of the Treasury: Transactions Involving Cuban-Origin Goods in Third Countries The question is often asked whether United States citizens or permanent resident aliens of the United States may legally purchase Cuban origin goods, including tobacco and alcohol products, in a third country for personal use outside the United States. The answer is no. The Regulations prohibit persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States from purchasing, transporting, importing, or otherwise dealing in or engaging in any transactions with respect to any merchandise outside the United States if such merchandise (1) is of Cuban origin; or (2) is or has been located in or transported from or through Cuba; or (3) is made or derived in whole or in part of any article which is the growth, produce or manufacture of Cuba. Thus, in the case of cigars, the prohibition extends to cigars manufactured in Cuba and sold in a third country and to cigars manufactured in a third country from tobacco grown in Cuba. Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC. And they give a phone # to rat on people. I won't tell.

Well, because it is. And because I love to bash Bush.

As Paula stated, she brought back Cuban cigars, legally, declared at US customs, just a few years ago.

According to the Treasury Dept. pdf file I quoted from, the regulations were changed effective August 1, 2004, and that before then limited legal importations of cigars (and other products) from Cuba was allowed.

So I have my wife and a US Govt. publication to back me up.

OK, technically it's not a new law, it's a new rule. Political Science 101
They revised the regulations to make what was once legal, illegal. To me that's a new law. To Bush it's more "freedom."

Ah, banish this to some off-topic political board hell!

I'm sitting back enjoying a Macanudo Ascot after dinner.........mmmm.
Small but satisfying - 4 1/8 x 32.

Huh? What? No comprende!

What was I thinking???

Jeez, I really have nothing to contribute to a disscussion on cigars!

But I really do love Cuba. So maybe I should start a Cuba thread... but it wouldn't be about Baja and would have to go off topic, and then it would get ugly...

Say... anyone know of a good Cuba forum I could join?

How long before Fidel dies or is killed?

If it is such a (socialist) paradise, why does he fear free elections or personal freedoms for Cubanos? Surely if everyone loves communism there (as has been reported) they will naturally keep Fidel and his thugs in power, no?

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Originally posted by David K How long before Fidel dies or is killed? If it is such a (socialist) paradise, why does he fear free elections or personal freedoms for Cubanos? Surely if everyone loves communism there (as has been reported) they will naturally keep Fidel and his thugs in power, no?

Fidel should retire and go fishing. But he'll need a new fishing partner.

Hey, I may be some radical crazy with Fidel and Che in my avatar, but my Cuban cigar entered the US legally!

David K.

A person can love Cuba and not think highly of Fidel.

Nuff said-- don't want to get off-topicy here! No more cigar talk for me...