Just filled 4 cans of 5 gallons each ( or 19 liters ) with a supposed total of 76 liters, with 88 liters of fuel. Ain't I a magician or not ?? Long
live the cheap Baja gas prices.Bob and Susan - 6-3-2006 at 02:07 PM
whats wrong with you???
gas expands in the heatcomitan - 6-3-2006 at 02:23 PM
They have always told me that after they have been filled a few times they do take more gas!!
gas
tehag - 6-3-2006 at 03:32 PM
Somewhere between 10 and 15% tweek on the pump gauge seems more the rule than the exception in much of Baja. Nothing new. Loretos 2 stations (same
guy) are better now than last year. Maybe the shut down at Sta Rosalia helped. I'm getting 6.7 liters squeezed into a 5 liter can with regularity, but
the can is plastic, there is some space above the line, it's hot out, etc...comitan - 6-3-2006 at 03:36 PM
Gas expands when its hot the containers should take less.tippytoestrish - 6-3-2006 at 05:52 PM
so what is the price of diesel this week? we'll be arriving in the late afternoon of the 12th, according to plan.....can't wait to finally get down
there again. Of course, we'll go broke paying for gas between central CA and loreto, but then, we can live on beans the rest of the summer, right?bajalou - 6-3-2006 at 05:54 PM
Now, I don't know, but I've been told, that this new station on Padre Kino is NOT owned by the same guy as the other two. In fact, I've heard that
this new owner has pledged that HIS new station will pump an honest liter, unlike the other guy.
Hooray!
The free market to the rescue!
Fair gas prices coming to Loreto.
The power of competition!
Any day now.
Someday...
Soon?
surfer jim - 6-4-2006 at 04:26 PM
Should be ready...."tomorrow"
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tehag - 6-5-2006 at 10:17 AM
New station is of another operator. Went in quickly. Looked ready to open some time ago, but some out-of-town looking guys came around, and then the
temporary fence went up around the whole lot.
If it ever does get open, and the gauges are correct, there will be loooonnnngggg lines.flyfishinPam - 6-5-2006 at 07:31 PM
PV=nRT
The ideal gas law. As temperature rises, assuming Pressure is constant then Volume will also rise! This is to say that gas expands as the
temperature goes up...so its definately best to buy gas during the coolset part of the day. We always buy our gas (fuel the boats) in the early
morning about one to two hours before sunrise. Over time, the savings is great. Someday when I have nothing better to do I'll figure out how much we
save by doing this... Bob and Susan - 6-6-2006 at 06:10 AM
Buying gas early in the morning gets you up to five percent more for your money
If you buy gas before the heat from the afternoon sun has had a chance to heat and expand the gas in the station's fuel tank.
Fuel expands, and the warmer it is, the thinner the liquid fuel is because the heat will create more vapors.
By fueling when it is coolest during the day, you will get more liquid fuel than vapors.
Gas pumps measure volume of gas pumped but not density... the gallon of gas you buy at 5 PM will have less gas in it than the gallon you buy at 5 AM.
Pam
For every ten gallons you buy you get an extra ? gallon
If you gas every day for 250 days a year you get 125 extra gallons
At $2.35 a gallon you save $293.75 a year
GOOD Business?comitan - 6-6-2006 at 07:20 AM
Most stations have underground tanks how can the above ground heat affect them that much?Salsa - 6-6-2006 at 08:31 AM
The plastic cans expand more than the gas.
But, they don't expand THAT much.
DonHook - 6-6-2006 at 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by comitan
Most stations have underground tanks how can the above ground heat affect them that much?
I agree, Comitan. I doubt the temp of those tanks varies more than 10 degrees from winter to summer down in the ground.
Of course, if you arrive after a Pemex truck has driven across the desert and just made a delivery, the volume could be very different.
In fact, I wonder if this explains why so many station operators are giving "bad pours." They know they are having hot gasoline delivered and then
dispense it at cool temps. The loss is probably substantial over time.flyfishinPam - 6-6-2006 at 01:20 PM
The holdign tank may be underground but the pump is above ground. think about it.vandenberg - 6-6-2006 at 01:59 PM
People,
Don't you think it's kind of funny that folks living in Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, etc. have never brought up this heat phenomena. Their temperatures are a lot higher
than ours and they're paying $ 3.50 a gallon.comitan - 6-6-2006 at 02:27 PM
I'm sorry Pam the gas is underground and the amount to the pump would be negligible. IMHO But I do agree with hook on newly delivered gas would be
hotter therefore expanded, , in the future I will definitely try not to buy gas just delivered.
[Edited on 6-6-2006 by comitan]bajalou - 6-6-2006 at 02:34 PM
Regardless, after it's in your can/tank for a period of time - it will expand. Certainly can't tell while pumping but a hour or two later -
Years ago I was driving a 57 VW pickup from LA to the eastern sierra's to go fishing. Left early in the AM and filled up in Mojave. Drove to
Olancha or thereabouts (about 50 miles) and went to top off before leaving the highway and it took less than 1 gallon. The expansion had produced
about 1 1/2 gallon.
Often when I fill my desert rail in town on returning from a run, it will be overflowing later that afternoon.
