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Dogs Confiscation RUMOR

awfulart - 6-9-2006 at 06:13 AM

There is an individual on the RV Net forum claiming that dogs are being confiscated by the Police in Mexico for no good reason. I don't believe the story and have asked for specific instances from credible individuals.

If you have a dog in Mexico or have recently taken your dog or dogs to Mexico as we have with no problem please comment on this RUMOR. Thank you.

Bruce R Leech - 6-9-2006 at 06:21 AM

I have never heard of such a thing. sounds like a rumor to me

maybe they are making tamales out of them

awfulart - 6-9-2006 at 06:53 AM

Hmm! My dogs don't like Korean food .

Art

Jack Swords - 6-9-2006 at 07:24 AM

Returned to USA from La Paz in April. Spend six months there with dog and have for past 7 years. Never heard of this rumor. La Paz does have an animal control officer that tries his best to grab street dogs. He works out of the Centro de Salud. They have an active vaccination program and a group looking out for dog welfare (Macotas). The officer has a badge (no, not a "stinking baadge") so maybe the rumor started with badge=police?

By the way, it is not uncommon for a city overrun with strays to reduce the problem by throwing out poisoned meat. We have personally experienced this in Loreto and Todos Santos in the past. Also some individual businesses have done the same. Best keep Fido on a short leash.

If you hear differently, please let us know.

Oso - 6-9-2006 at 07:34 AM

This may have some relation to a crackdown by U.S. Customs on Mexican "puppy mills" smuggling puppies less than 8 weeks old into the U.S. This trade concentrates on small breeds which are currently popular. Apparently there is an ample supply of idiots in the U.S. willing to pay several hundred dollars for pups with questionable papers who often turn out sick and do not survive.

Bruce R Leech - 6-9-2006 at 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords

By the way, it is not uncommon for a city overrun with strays to reduce the problem by throwing out poisoned meat. We have personally experienced this in Loreto and Todos Santos in the past. Also some individual businesses have done the same. Best keep Fido on a short leash.

If you hear differently, please let us know.

this is done in Mulege also and if your dog is a bit noisy sometimes the meat will go over the fence

turtleandtoad - 6-9-2006 at 08:06 AM

Boy, if noisy dogs were targeted in Loreto, they would be hip deep in dead dogs!!!

Bruce R Leech - 6-9-2006 at 08:24 AM

well it is a lot quieter here in Mulege than in the past and we don't have as bad of a problam with the dog packs running the streets so the program works. it is just to bad they cant poison the dog owner instead of the dog.

The Sculpin - 6-9-2006 at 08:46 AM

If you poison the dog owner, the dog still barks!?!?!

awfulart - 6-9-2006 at 08:47 AM

Poisoning does not seem to be very humane and I assume is quite painful for the dogs who are the innocent victims of Mexican neglect.

Why not tranquilize them and then deal with it. Of course, that would be more complcated but many areas is Mexico now have organizations that try to Humanely deal with the problem and no one can deny it is a problem. Many dead dogs and some other dead animals can be observed along the roads in Mexico. Maybe the Politicians could take interest in something other than their own self interest. Of course, one can say the same thing about many of the Politicians in the U.S.

Bruce R Leech - 6-9-2006 at 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by awfulart
Poisoning does not seem to be very humane and I assume is quite painful for the dogs who are the innocent victims of Mexican neglect.

Why not tranquilize them and then deal with it. Of course, that would be more complcated but many areas is Mexico now have organizations that try to Humanely deal with the problem and no one can deny it is a problem. Many dead dogs and some other dead animals can be observed along the roads in Mexico. Maybe the Politicians could take interest in something other than their own self interest. Of course, one can say the same thing about many of the Politicians in the U.S.

now you are dreaming :lol:

awfulart - 6-9-2006 at 09:30 AM

Bruce, You are so right, but dreams some times come true.

backninedan - 6-9-2006 at 09:55 AM

My wife is envolved with "Animalandia" here in Loreto. They put on free spay and neuter clinics in various locations and there is a permanent clinic being built. They have neutered approx. 450 dogs in the last year and a half. While this isnt a perfect solution, it has made a noticable difference in the number of street dogs. So far we have been warned when the poison trucks are going to be coming around, which seems to happen about once or twice a year.

awfulart - 6-9-2006 at 10:02 AM

Backninedan, Thats great, perhaps more Americanos could become involved in this type of activity. I wonder what is happening in Mulege, Santa Rosalia along these lines.

Art

turtleandtoad - 6-9-2006 at 10:07 AM

Now if they could figure out a way to muffle those loudspeaker trucks, boombox cars, and the roosters that can't tell time. :spingrin:

But then, I guess that's just part of the Loreto atmosphere.

burro bob - 6-9-2006 at 10:10 AM

I haven't seen or heard of any poisonings being done here in San Felipe by any officials. Maybe twice a year they do have dog catchers roam the town and pick up strays. The only dogs they catch are some ones pet that is very trusting. The beach dogs won't get anywhere close to them.
Again these are street dogs they sometimes pick up. I have never heard of any dogs being confiscated.

Sharksbaja - 6-9-2006 at 11:25 AM

If you ever saw your dog die from strychnine you might think twice about doing it to others. Sure a slow death works but I'd rather see them run over or shot.

Bruce R Leech - 6-9-2006 at 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
If you ever saw your dog die from strychnine you might think twice about doing it to others. Sure a slow death works but I'd rather see them run over or shot.

that is right . and thousands of dogs a year die from rat poison from careless dog owners not using it properly and that is an even worse death.

Sharksbaja - 6-9-2006 at 11:37 AM

yea, thanks Bruce.

Bajajorge - 6-10-2006 at 08:29 AM

Over the past few years I have made the crossing some 20 plus times, had my dog with me every time. Once I was asked for the dogs "papers" by Mexican Customs.

JESSE - 6-10-2006 at 02:21 PM

I have never heard of city officials poisoning dogs, and i would assume all hell would break lose if they did, most Mexicans let their dogs lose around the neighborhood, and that would kill plenty of animals that do have homes. So i really doubt tthey have, on the other hand, is sadly but common for some people to poison a dog because its too agressive, too loud, or out in the area crapping all over the place with no supervision from the owners. Best thing you can do is keep your dogs inside the yard, and let him loose 1/2 an hour each night right before you go to bed. This will provide proper exercise for you dog, and lower the posibilities of some loser poisoning him.

bajajudy - 6-10-2006 at 02:59 PM

I have never seen it but was told that they come through the neighborhoods here with poison hotdogs. So two years ago we got these huge orange tags for our dogs that tell the powers that be that they have had their shots. My vet would neither confirm nor deny the practice but he did give me these tags to protect my pups.
Now that we have a humane society the problem of strays seems to be less.

dogs

tehag - 6-10-2006 at 03:42 PM

Dog poisoning by local gov has been practiced in Loreto for a long time.

The Animalandia spay and nueter clinic is under construction and is a more palatable alternative to hungry dog herds, but without some kind of control a dog population can assume dangerous proportions in a fairly short time. Since their volunteer staffed sterilization program began a couple of years ago, I have noticed a decline in street dog numbers. Sterilizing a single dog must eventually equal slaying dozens as a control measure.

Find out more about Animalandia and how you can help.

http://www.animalandia.org

JESSE - 6-10-2006 at 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by tehag
Dog poisoning by local gov has been practiced in Loreto for a long time.

If true, somebody in Loreto should start a protest in order to stop it. It is a very painful way to die for a Dog, so i wonder why the locals and foreigners accept this.

Bruce R Leech - 6-10-2006 at 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

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Originally posted by tehag
Dog poisoning by local gov has been practiced in Loreto for a long time.

If true, somebody in Loreto should start a protest in order to stop it. It is a very painful way to die for a Dog, so i wonder why the locals and foreigners accept this.

the only way you will get them to stop is to find another way to take car of the problem that is cheaper for the city.

flyfishinPam - 6-10-2006 at 04:00 PM

Don't ya think a dog/cat licensing program would work? Could be a preventative measure no? This could make troublesome dogs' owners responsible.

Packoderm - 6-10-2006 at 04:02 PM

Us gringos could bring down poodles and release one poodle for every stray dog adopted to alter the gene pool of the stray dog population just for laughs.

flyfishinPam - 6-10-2006 at 04:18 PM

Hmmmm,

poodle X light brown big headed long bodied short legged dog...

JESSE - 6-10-2006 at 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Packoderm
Us gringos could bring down poodles and release one poodle for every stray dog adopted to alter the gene pool of the stray dog population just for laughs.

Tony Blair would move over there in a heart beat. :lol:

Bruce R Leech - 6-10-2006 at 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Don't ya think a dog/cat licensing program would work? Could be a preventative measure no? This could make troublesome dogs' owners responsible.

It could Pam but it would take 365 days a year enforcement to do it and you know how well that works in Mexico.