The Govenor of B.C.S. was in San Juanico this past Saturday to dedicate the first 10 kilometers of paved road into town and the main street in town.
First walk down Main Street
Juan del Rio - 6-26-2006 at 06:49 PM
Local officals join together to walk the new main street in San JuanicoBruce R Leech - 6-26-2006 at 06:50 PM
I would rather See a photo of the rode.
What a smooth ride...
Juan del Rio - 6-26-2006 at 06:53 PM
For those of you who are use to coming in on the south road, you won't believe your eyes. 10 kilometers of pavement south of town and they are still
going...
[Edited on 6-27-2006 by Juan del Rio]
New turnoff for town
Juan del Rio - 6-26-2006 at 07:04 PM
This turnoff take you right to the main street.bajajudy - 6-26-2006 at 07:07 PM
Whoa that sure makes it easier.
See you soon!David K - 6-26-2006 at 07:52 PM
Juan, 10 miles or 10 kilometers (you said both)... are they paving from San Juanico south vs. La Purisma north? Looks great, hope it is more than a
centimeter thick!!
Kilometers...
Juan del Rio - 6-26-2006 at 08:21 PM
Thanks David, its 10 kilometers from town. FYI, the plan is for the road to go through Las Barrancas.
[Edited on 6-27-2006 by Juan del Rio]David K - 6-26-2006 at 09:04 PM
Where will it intersect the paved road between Insurgentes and La Purisima...?
Thanks for the great stuff Juan!Roberto - 6-26-2006 at 09:27 PM
Well, if it's going to Las Barrancas, it sounds like a new road will be cut, and would not intersect the road from Insurgentes to La Purisima.David K - 6-26-2006 at 10:22 PM
So a paved road with no connection to the only paved road to La Paz? That seems odd to me. Las Barrancas is on the coast, as is San Juanico... The
paved road to La Paz and La Purisima is a few miles inland. Unless they build a huge bridge ($$$) over the Estero de San Gregorio to hug the coast, I
would think it would swing inland near La Purisma and contact the paved road there... Quien sabe?losfrailes - 6-27-2006 at 05:44 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I would rather See a photo of the rode.
A rode is a length of anchor chain.
Use your spelling checker.
Correction noted. Use your grammar checker!!
[Edited on 6-27-2006 by losfrailes]losfrailes - 6-27-2006 at 06:39 AM
Coming from Insurgentes there is a paved road to Las Barrancas. I do not know if it goes all the way to Las Barrancas. I read this to say that the
new paving will continue south from San Juanico to Las Barrancas, following the coast.
So it will intersect the paved, using the term loosely, road from Insurgentes to La Purisima.David K - 6-27-2006 at 07:18 AM
Thank you, that is likely the case... I wonder about how and where it will cross the Rio de la Purisma.capt. mike - 6-27-2006 at 07:21 AM
When we ran the clinic at las barrancas but used the la purisima strip, we rode a van on pavement all the way to town.losfrailes - 6-27-2006 at 07:30 AM
Not positive about it, cause I have not driven that part of it. However, the Rio de la Purisima is mostly a Vado de la Purisima. The washboard road
that leaves the Insurgentes-La Purisima highway (??) crosses that Vado shortly after leaving the paved (once again ??) road. I have never seen water
there, however, there is evidence of water damage from cloudbursts.
That vado is crossed over cement bridges, I am searching for a word to describe them as bridges, that are also fraught with TV sized paches.
So I would suspect they will create some more elegant bridges. Judging from the pictures on Juan y Juan website http://juanyjuan.com/ of the bridges in the section newly paved.
Sign says Barrancas...
Juan del Rio - 6-27-2006 at 03:14 PM
All the signs say "Barrancas". In fact the first sign as you now head out of town indicates, "Barrancas 38 km" (see the sign in the earlier photo)
That big arroyo that comes out at Gregorio will be a challenge, but folks are already driving to Barrancas from the Gregorio area now I'm told. How
they do it, I don't know. But the current plan has Barrancas all over it.The Sculpin - 6-27-2006 at 04:14 PM
This is absolutely fantastic for the town of San Juanico, as well as Cadeje. The people should be very happy becuase their lives will get measuarably
better in the short term.
Long term, this means the end of their lifestyle as they know it, and there will be monumental change in the years to come. It's not good, it's not
bad, it just is. The bay is absolutely gorgeous, and it won't be long before a "large" hotel will be built. This also opens it up to a marina. Gringos
have already done a number on the real estate, and as soon as they tackle the water/power issue, that will experience another boom, and a better
"class" of gringo.
I feel very fortunate to have had that place to myself for decades, and I also am very happy for all the locals I have become friends with over the
years because deservedly they will do well..some very well.
As for me, I will never return...
thanks for the memories........da daa, da daa, da daaaaa......oladulce - 6-27-2006 at 07:48 PM
Still dubious about the motivation for this road. The rumblings are that beautiful San Gregorio is the next hotspot for development and could be the
rationale for the S.J. road to follow the coast in that area on to the way to Las Barrancas. There Is a crossing over the estuary at San Gregorio near
the beach and has always been a dirt road along the beach to Las Barrancas.
But why San Juanico was also chosen to be the beneficiary of this giant, billions of pesos undertaking is a mystery.
The funny part is that they started the road from town and are building from the inside out so everything has to be hauled 27 miles down the dirt road
( earthmovers, semis, water trucks, huge road crew). Wouldn't have been less expensive and made more sense to start the road at the pavement and work
towards the town.??? Currently the asphalt comes to a stop around "Esterito", the dry riverbed just past the big mesas south of town.
I think that town's people would have been happy with regular grading of the old dirt road, and patching of the massive potholes (which currently span
the entire width of the hwy in several spots) on the Insurgentes road.
I'm not sure how much this pavement will improve their lives- gas and propane still cost a bundle, it's still far enough outside the big towns that
transportation fees are exorbinate, and the fishbuyer will pay what he's gonna pay for their catch. And as with anywhere on the peninsula, there's
still the issue of water that will influence future development...
When ( if ) the pavement is ever brought down the pacific side from San Ignacio to Insurgentes there will be a drastic change in everyday lives. Ask a
San Juanican and he'll tell you, "Oh, Loreto won't let that happen" (fearing the diversion of tourist dollars) which cracks me up, but may be true.
If the current state of the Insurgentes road is an indication of the lack of maintainence that the new San Juanico road can expect, there won't be any
measurable changes in lifestyle in the near future as a result of the asphalt.(except everyone will spend even more on tire repairs)David K - 6-27-2006 at 08:30 PM
Back in 1974 there was a 'master plan' for paving roads in Baja (to happen in the following years soon after Hwy. 1 was completed, LOL).
One of them was from San Ignacio south to La Purisima and on to meet the pavement of Mexico 1 at Insurgentes.
This made great sense for people and cargo going from the north to La Paz and Cabo, as it cuts off 100 miles and the steep Santa Rosalia and Ligui
grades. They waited so long that Santa Rosalia, Mulege, and Loreto will not want to lose that part of travel income off the drive bys heading to the
cape.
Mexico 5 from San Felipe to Laguna Chapala was also in that plan from 32 years ago.... PAVE TREK: The Next Generation!bajajudy - 6-28-2006 at 06:58 AM
OD
They probably did it that way so the heavy equipment would not tear up the road that had just laid. Especially if they are only putting down a thin
layer of pavement. It actually make sense to do it that way
Sure will change the area and that trip to La Barrancas is always a challange although I have only made it going north.
More road...
Juan del Rio - 6-28-2006 at 03:44 PM
"Plaza Steve" sent this to me as he drove home last week:TMW - 7-9-2006 at 10:32 AM
If they only put down a thin layer in six months to a year it will be as bad as the pot holes to Puertecitos.ElGato - 9-14-2006 at 08:13 PM
I have mixed feelings about paving the road to San Juanico and what may happen.
An elderly Mexican woman once said some very apt words:
"bad roads bring good people, good roads bring bad people."Hook - 9-21-2006 at 03:48 PM
What's the status of this road after another 2 months now?
[Edited on 9-21-2006 by Hook]
[Edited on 9-21-2006 by Hook]David K - 9-21-2006 at 06:19 PM
Let's see Hook:
Official answer after one rain storm: "What new road? You gringos drink too much!"
Road in great shape after storm
Juan del Rio - 9-22-2006 at 01:43 PM
The paved part of the South road is still in perfect shape. They graded from Purisima Rio to the pavement almost two week ago. The pavement now
extends into town. Still seems kinda of strange....
I have mixed feelings about paving the road to San Juanico and what may happen.
An elderly Mexican woman once said some very apt words: