BajaNomad - Baja Expedition Video

Baja Expedition Video

Ken Cooke - 7-11-2006 at 10:45 PM

Link: http://my4x4tv.com/?page_id=23

My friend Chris Glass found this item while surfing the web. The file is a whopping 196MB, so you had better have DSL or Cable Internet. I'm downloading the video as we speak, and I can't wait to see what these guys did and where they went!

Baja Expedition 2006

toyoda - 7-16-2006 at 09:32 AM

So how did you like the baja episode?? That was part 1 of 2.

:bounce:

[Edited on 7-16-2006 by toyoda]

Ken Cooke - 7-29-2006 at 03:52 AM

I enjoyed it 100%. I could not believe on that seemingly deceptive trail leading to the Observatory that a Toyota could so easily flip, but it did! Keep up the good work!!! :bounce:

Al G - 7-29-2006 at 08:56 AM

Great video!! Those 4X4's take a beating. I wonder if that Toyota has a bad fuel delivery system or operator error by having to little fuel in the tank?It sure looks like great fun, but really hard on body's and I don't mean the roll-over. This sport maybe suited for good condition old Jeeps like mine. Well that is why I am hanging on to mine. My worry is the suspension looked real heavy duty. Mine is just run of the mill.
anyone know how much work it would take to make it adequate for Baja with only Occasional expeditions??

Ken Cooke - 7-29-2006 at 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Al G
My worry is the suspension looked real heavy duty. Mine is just run of the mill.
anyone know how much work it would take to make it adequate for Baja with only Occasional expeditions??

The Jeep (CJ/YJ/TJ) comes built for the rigors of Baja from the factory. With a good set of tires, a spare, tools, and no engine/cooling/transmission issues, your Jeep will get you all over that peninsula and back.

Sorry Ken

Al G - 7-29-2006 at 10:32 AM

Mine is not one of those. It is a Laredo and automatic, but thought it was close to TJ??

Ken Cooke - 7-29-2006 at 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Al G
Mine is not one of those. It is a Laredo and automatic, but thought it was close to TJ??

2 Wheel Drive? 4 Wheel Drive? Gear ratio? Engine size? Live Front Axle? Cherokee? Grand Cherokee? I.F.S. (Inferior Front Suspension)?

Dose anyone share my opinion that these guys are a real bunch of armatures

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2006 at 05:23 PM

my guess is that is the first time most of them have been off rode in Baja.

I watched the video several times and laughed and till I hurt the last couple times. :lol:

I would love to see the missing video clip where they got that toy 4 runner on its top. I cant for the world see how I could duplicate that situation without doing something really stupid :lol:

I am really looking forward to some more opinions on this. :lol:

elgatoloco - 7-29-2006 at 05:36 PM

I just watched the video.

It was tragic.

Did they ever figure out the actual cost of the beer that was damaged?

:biggrin:

Sorry again,

Al G - 7-29-2006 at 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by Al G
Mine is not one of those. It is a Laredo and automatic, but thought it was close to TJ??

2 Wheel Drive? 4 Wheel Drive? Gear ratio? Engine size? Live Front Axle? Cherokee? Grand Cherokee? I.F.S. (Inferior Front Suspension)?

1990 Jeep Cherokee Laredo
4.0 6 cyl. F.I. T.B.
4 speed auto with power switch
4 WD with street tires
Gear ratio Unknown, but in 4 low it crawls
Live Front Axle? sprung straight axle with rear trailing arms, and trailing steering.
I.F.S. (Inferior Front Suspension)? not sure, but diffidently as beefy as a big truck. Tie rods and ends maybe weak.
I could fix that with Heim joints like my stock car. I have even reinforced drag links.

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2006 at 06:31 PM

I would bet that Toyota would pay them to not air that video :?:

Al G - 7-29-2006 at 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I would bet that Toyota would pay them to not air that video :?:

I think so too.
All said, to see Baja, off road............I love it :bounce:

We need some great Nomad video. The scene with the 4X4 bouncing and the camera still, must be great equipment.

It is an interesting video

John M - 7-29-2006 at 08:38 PM

First thing that struck me - why buy gasoline on the U.S. side at Tecate???

Next - As they were traveling through the "Alamo"? area the narrator said they were on roads the ranchers had closed. - If you do that I doubt you should broadcast the fact.

Third - Road to Mikes was recently graded "so we could fly" or some such comment - have they ever heard of open range?

Then the loss of the beer - hmmmm - maybe it did have some effect on judgement.

The spot where the Toy rolled didn't look that threatening. 'course the video can be deceptive. Recall, just before going over he was nearly up and over the tough spot, with several vehicles ahead of him. And - he had a winch - why wouldn't they have just strapped him ahead a few yards rather than let him roll back with, as they said, "no power steering and no power brakes" - Judgement again perhaps?

Easy for me to judge, not being there. I do wonder about their Baja experiences. It seemed to me they may have been only very occasional visitors to the back country of Baja - who knows.

Was this video part of a television show? I did enjoy it in spite of my criticisms. My wife even watched most of it but some of her descriptive comments aren't fit for this forum.

John M

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2006 at 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by John M

- he had a winch - why wouldn't they have just strapped him ahead a few yards rather than let him roll back with, as they said,

John M

John I just have a hunch that is king of what they did and I think they hooked to that tree on the right side of the rode and polled the thing over. if you look real close at the video right before and after the cut you can see the evidence. :lol:

this is one video where the out takes would be priceless :lol:

Ken Cooke - 7-29-2006 at 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Al G

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke

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Originally posted by Al G
Mine is not one of those. It is a Laredo and automatic, but thought it was close to TJ??

2 Wheel Drive? 4 Wheel Drive? Gear ratio? Engine size? Live Front Axle? Cherokee? Grand Cherokee? I.F.S. (Inferior Front Suspension)?

Link: http://www.thedesertoutlaw.20megsfree.com/photo4.html

View the description of Brad's XJ. It is an impressive vehicle with plenty of $$ deposited in it. With a 3" lift kit, 31" mud-terrain tires, and a few extras, your Cherokee will tame most trails in Baja, *And* your center of gravity will still be low enough that you will not suffer the fate of the rolled Toyota on this thread...

Ken Cooke - 7-29-2006 at 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by John M

The spot where the Toy rolled didn't look that threatening. 'course the video can be deceptive. Recall, just before going over he was nearly up and over the tough spot, with several vehicles ahead of him. And - he had a winch - why wouldn't they have just strapped him ahead a few yards rather than let him roll back with, as they said, "no power steering and no power brakes" - Judgement again perhaps?

Easy for me to judge, not being there. I do wonder about their Baja experiences. It seemed to me they may have been only very occasional visitors to the back country of Baja - who knows.
John M

Had there been a more proactive Trail Boss on this trip, the line would have kept moving, so Nick and DJs Toyota would have had a more flat location to stop. It appeared that the guys were not too worried, causing this flop to creep up on them. This was a costly mistake indeed.

eetdrt88 - 7-30-2006 at 09:54 AM

they left out the best part

dont really need to see footage of a couple of guys goin 5 mph on back roads of baja...but would have love to seen how the guy got his truck upside down :lol:

jimgrms - 7-30-2006 at 11:09 AM

AL G i have a pritty much stock cherokee equipped like yours ,and as long as a little common sense and good judgement is used a sock jeep works fine some agressive tires like bfg at help just put your money in eng ant transmission armor and unless you want to do something ungodly difficult you are good to go, i have gone a lot of places down there with a old international flathead 6

Taco de Baja - 7-30-2006 at 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I would bet that Toyota would pay them to not air that video :?:

With a solid front axel and large tires, that is NOT a stock Toyota. So it is more driver error not compensating for his high center of gravity. A stock Toyota probably would not have rolled.

Geronimo - 7-30-2006 at 01:41 PM

I have seen rollovers twice like that. Truck is "lose" ei. one tire off the ground and balanced when someone gave it a push to see if it will go, and it does. Beer was involved most of the time. Unless you were like Eddie in the picture and would roll just try to right yourself.

[Edited on 7-30-2006 by Geronimo]

Ken Cooke - 7-30-2006 at 09:39 PM

F.Y.I. - A rollover is when the vehicle completely rolls over 1x or more. A "Flop" is when a vehicle flips on its side and comes to a rest. The 4 Runner in the video flopped on its side, and I cannot say if it had to do with drinking, but early in the video, it appears that DJ's passenger was drinking (i.e. "Open Container") and it's not clear whether or not the driver was driving while impaired or not. I wish more of this flop was not edited out, because I'm sure more could be figured out.

wornout - 7-31-2006 at 08:26 AM

I too would be interested in knowing what kind of camera was used as I too saw that vehicle bouncing and the camera was still and gave some great video without bouncing like the vehicle.

Geronimo - 8-1-2006 at 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
F.Y.I. - A rollover is when the vehicle completely rolls over 1x or more. A "Flop" is when a vehicle flips on its side and comes to a rest. The 4 Runner in the video flopped on its side,

Thank you for that leson Ken, I will sleep better with this bit of expert information.

the forum

pacificobob - 8-1-2006 at 01:13 PM

is very fortunate to have so many knowledgeable folks onboard. we do however have among our ranks several "know-all-o-gists"
for this i am also gratefull for the humor it provides me.

another flop.....

Taco de Baja - 8-1-2006 at 01:37 PM

I think..... :lol:

Another view

Taco de Baja - 8-1-2006 at 01:39 PM

Geronimo - 8-1-2006 at 02:56 PM

That might be a roll?, I will be on pins and neddles waiting for the verdict! Or on second thought maybe I will go see if it is as hot in San Felipe as it is Salome "where She Danced".

Ken Cooke - 8-1-2006 at 03:16 PM

The above is a case of "Rubber Side Up." :yes:

Taco de Baja - 8-4-2006 at 01:08 PM

Almost a roll here....a flop and a half?
Idiots on a beach :no:

Probably some beer involved too.

Surfing 4 runner

Ken Cooke - 8-4-2006 at 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Taco de Baja
Almost a roll here....a flop and a half?
Idiots on a beach :no:

Probably some beer involved too.

Surfing 4 runner

That my friend was a roll. 3/4 - nearly 1 whole!

Not a good way to spend the day on the beach! :no:

Geronimo - 8-4-2006 at 10:08 PM

Watched a guy in a super-crew with paper license plate go over about 5 times at Pete?s camp after the poker run a few years ago. He was doing doughnuts out their all evening in the tide line. We could see the guy bouncing around in the cab like it was a washing machine. They flew him out with severe head injuries. Darwin strikes again......

bajalou - 8-5-2006 at 03:06 PM

After checking the vidio, looks to me that the main problem was with the trail boss who let the vehicles that were already thru that tough spot stop at a point which did not allow the Toyota to completly get thru it before he had to stop. And kind of a panic stop it looked like.