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Too much too soon..a sad day here

bajajudy - 7-13-2006 at 08:43 PM

It is a very sad sight down at La Playita tonight. All the months of work on the jettys seems to have been for naught. Many of the people from La Playa were on the beach to watch as waves crashed over the jettys, threatening to cut them off and make rock islands out of them.
Waves were coming up over the northern jetty. They had moved all the equipment off earlier today. The southern jetty still had a crane sitting on the end but was getting shorter with every new wave.
I dont know the exact time of the low tide tonight. We were there around 8:30 and it was close to low. When the high tide comes in, if the swells are still as big, there will be nothing but a rock pile in the morning.
This will put the local fishermen out of business...that is where they land their boats. I am so sad about this and only hope that I am wrong about the ecological, economical disaster this could be. I have more pictures which I will post tomorrow after I have time to resize them.

Al G - 7-13-2006 at 09:16 PM

So sorry Judy,
I don't get it, did they not make them large enough?

jerry - 7-13-2006 at 09:39 PM

im sorry to for the losses but after seeing what happened to loretos merina a few yrs.back how could anyone think that building a merina there with the pacific and the cortez pounding it was going to end up any differenti bet theres some engineers moving as we speek
its sad i hope a lesson learnd

David K - 7-13-2006 at 10:11 PM

Nature bats last... and wins!

jerry - 7-13-2006 at 11:36 PM

the locals know what there dealing with and will do fine there ajustable have had to be to survive all there lives and ( that makes me smile)

capt. mike - 7-14-2006 at 05:18 AM

build it shoddy and then just re build it again. its the mex way when you have cheap labor and lots of materials.

if they cared they'd engineer their infrastructure to last.

i think they're used to it and just shrug when it happens.

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 06:16 AM

Yes Kate one and the same
They were built too low.
I think the the local people were down there watching something happen that they knew would. I was pretty sure that they were not constructed to withstand a hurricane. Carlotta was almost 400 miles away not a strong hurricane, hardly a threat to us but they couldnt even withstand her.
I am headed down for my morning walk and will have more pix of what has transpired overnight. It is too hazy to see from my house this morning.

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 06:34 AM

These people are between the fishing pangas on the beach. The pangas are between the jettys on the beach. Notice the surf!

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 06:36 AM

This is the northern jetty or the one to the right of the first pic. What looks like a rocky path is the jetty

Osprey - 7-14-2006 at 06:36 AM

Thanks Judy, they plan a similar marina/hotel complex here in La Ribera. I think it may face the same problems yours faced with the weather and could ultimately hurt, not help the village and the environment. Anything that happens from now on with your marina might help us in our fight to make the developers "do it right" so please keep me in the loop. I think you have my Email address.

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 06:37 AM

For sure Osprey.
This one is not a great photo but shows what the surf looked like between the jettys

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 06:41 AM

This is a shot of their trying to repair the start of the northern jetty. I always thought that a good storm would wash around the jetty because the rocks didnt start until the high tide mark not up on shore to insure their stability.

[Edited on 7-14-2006 by bajajudy]

wilderone - 7-14-2006 at 08:37 AM

It looks like all it was originally was a pile of rocks. Of course they would be shifted with wave action. Any rainstorm coming down a narrow canyon does the same thing - moves huge boulders and rocks for miles - been doing that for centuries. The power of moving water is not to be underestimated. Pangueros have been pulling their boats onto shore for 200 years, why a jetty now, anyway? All they did was make sandy beach into a rocky beach.

bajamigo - 7-14-2006 at 08:54 AM

This is the work of the hermit crab lobby!

Slowmad - 7-14-2006 at 09:23 AM

"This swell's just the lemon next to the pie."
The absurd Corona marina boondoggle will continue to yield predictable results.
Chubascos Bud and Carlotta barely grazed the tip.
A glancing blow or direct hit will blow the entrada to kingdom come.
When the episodic tropical flood pours down the San Jose arroyo, look for "blowout sale" condo prices.

Good News

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 09:29 AM

The jettys held although battered

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 09:30 AM

The surfers are happy

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 09:31 AM

More surf

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 09:32 AM

More rocks headed out to re enforce

bajajudy - 7-14-2006 at 09:34 AM

It didnt look like any pangas went out today and they will have to pick their way through the dislocated rocks when they do, but as soon as the swell dies down, they should be back in business.
:yes:

The Sculpin - 7-14-2006 at 09:56 AM

Seems to me the pangueros were better off before the jetty, when nature opened or closed the mouth of the estuary. When it comes to jettys, this always happens. Put in a jetty, and the only happy ones are the surfers and the guy who owns the dredging machine. Both US coasts as well as Hawaii have excellent examples of how not to build a jetty. Looks like the foks at Playita have added another example!

It will be very interesting to see what happens when a chubasco starts crawling up into the Cortez....oh man, the lefts!!!!

Sharksbaja - 7-14-2006 at 12:14 PM

All I see is more lobster habitat;D Good update Judy.

pappy - 7-16-2006 at 08:04 AM

agreed with sculpin. in the long run it will probably prove to be of more harm than good.

bajajudy - 7-16-2006 at 08:56 AM

Hey you guys have not been paying attention. I am one of the biggest "no" marina person around. Unfortunately the local people are suffering and will continue to suffer as they lose more and more of their land and their businesses. My concern with the jettys was for the people. I could care less about the marina people. They have dug their hole and will have to lay in. However, the thought of that huge hole never being used is scary. The mosquitoes are worse than they have ever been.
So we agree....jettys...not a good idea.

oladulce - 7-16-2006 at 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
... The mosquitoes are worse than they have ever been.
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Where are the mozzies breeding or why the increase Judy ?

Of course you dislike them Judy

Sharksbaja - 7-17-2006 at 12:14 AM

You are an intelligent, thinking human being and your statements reflect concerned and justifiable reasoning.
Jetty building defeats the natural course of things. Most important would be the constant cycle of near-shore transport of sands. The huge disadvantage of being a desert in the sea. Now, with that said, I can think of many Jetties that serve a necessary functional job. Mainly, serving the needs of boaters and other maritime users. The downside in more and more cases in Baja becomes evident immediately. Detruction of coastal marine habitat(s). While these piles of rocks may become home and habitat for crustaceans. The chances of them flourishing are nil. The chances of bi-valves indiginous to the area becomes zero.
Aside from the destruction of biomass is the destruction of a way of life and livelyhood for local peoples. While fat-cats build and develop coastal stretches, the peones pack up and start anew life elsewhere. With luck maybe their children can mow coastal golf courses when they come of age.:(
The sad reality as most of us know is always the same. Pave paradise and put in a parking lot.:fire:


Lo siento:no:

bajajudy - 7-17-2006 at 06:34 AM

OD
There is a huge hole with water in it that will be called a marina one day. Once it flushed to the sea, I hope that the mosquito problem will abate but as of today it is a stagnant water mass...must be over 3 acres. Also there are holding tanks for water to keep the grass alive which they water daily. As we all know grass is a wonderful breading ground for them. There is a reason, beside poverty, that Mexicans have dirt yards....they are smart and know that mosquitoes dont hang around in the dirt, they like to hide in bushes, grass....standing water.

vandenberg - 7-17-2006 at 09:49 AM

Judy, I know that wet grass causes a mosquito problem. That's why I have always been amazed, living right on the first tee in Nopolo, that the only time we have a mosquito problem is right after a rain storm. I do know that you are right , but the grass on the course doesn't seem to breed any critters.

bajajudy - 7-17-2006 at 04:17 PM

The courses down here sure do breed them. But then Fonatur used recycled(sorta) black water...pe uuuuu ee.