BajaNomad

Klose duz count, Bernie

thebajarunner - 8-12-2006 at 09:25 AM

But crikey, some of the folks on this board are not only out of the area code, they are out of the hemisphere when it comes to spelling.
(Spell check has seriously diminished my own personal ability to spell consistently well. I find myself just throwing up a word, close as I can come, and waiting for the magic red underline to bail me out.)
Ah, but Bernie, editing your stuff has brought back the school marm in me, and I can joyfully say that my spelling acuity vastly improved after poring through your wonderful prose.
(School marm is what he calls me in his kinder moments, folks)

oxxo - 8-12-2006 at 10:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner
I can joyfully say that my spelling acuity vastly improved after poring through your wonderful prose.


"PORING through"? :?: Those darn spell chuckers!

Que ??

MrBillM - 8-12-2006 at 10:10 AM

OXXO:

"Poring" seems to be the correct word i.e. "to read or study carefully and attentively". "Pouring" certainly would not be correct. What are we missing ?

DanO - 8-12-2006 at 10:25 AM

Poring is indeed the correct spelling, but the proper usage is "poring over," not "poring through."

thebajarunner - 8-12-2006 at 10:36 AM

To" pore over" would certainly be the preferred usage.
If you are meditating, then to "pore upon" would be correct.
But, when you are immersed in Bernie-ese (that is correctly spelled, because I made it up myself) then certainly "pore through" would be at least marginally acceptable....
IMHO

by the by....
www.dictionary.com
is an easy stopping place to clarify and assist those that are somewhat grammatically challenged.

Shaky Ground

MrBillM - 8-12-2006 at 11:16 AM

Wandering into the realm of "proper" usage as opposed to "general" usage is a quagmire that I've always avoided except for the occasional jab at politicians who seem intent with consistently changing nouns into verbs.

I would propose that the referenced usage of "poring through" falls well within current accepted speech patterns. It is, after all, common to say "I've been reading through your report", etc.

DanO - 8-12-2006 at 11:34 AM

Webster's pairs pore (the verb, not the hole) with over, on and upon. I'm not saying pore should not be used with through, but its use with over is far more common. Anyway, wouldn't it might be more accurate say that you wade through Bernie's prose than pore through it? Heh. Just kidding.

vgabndo - 8-12-2006 at 12:34 PM

Then there is the "wouldn't it might" as opposed to "might it not", "mightn't it", "wouldn't it".:lol::lol:

Doh!

DanO - 8-12-2006 at 12:44 PM

Ya got me! Should've read it before posting. That's a "silent might."

[Edited on 8-12-2006 by DanO]

Grinning through it is closer

thebajarunner - 8-12-2006 at 12:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DanO
Webster's pairs pore (the verb, not the hole) with over, on and upon. I'm not saying pore should not be used with through, but its use with over is far more common. Anyway, wouldn't it might be more accurate say that you wade through Bernie's prose than pore through it? Heh. Just kidding.


You never "wade" through Bernie,
although at times the going gets a bit sticky...

Bob H - 8-12-2006 at 02:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM
Wandering into the realm of "proper" usage as opposed to "general" usage is a quagmire that I've always avoided except for the occasional jab at politicians who seem intent with consistently changing nouns into verbs.

I would propose that the referenced usage of "poring through" falls well within current accepted speech patterns. It is, after all, common to say "I've been reading through your report", etc.


I think this depends on what part of the country you are from. Ya'll come back now, ya hear? :rolleyes:

Y'All Speak.

MrBillM - 8-12-2006 at 03:11 PM

That reminds me of years ago when I travelled with my second wife back to her small hometown in Georgia for vacation. While sitting around with her relatives, I used the word "roof' pronouncing it like "woof". One of her cousins looked at me and said, "Y'all sound like a dog. You mean "rewf" ? During the remainder of our visit, the younger relatives would say "woof" whenever we showed up. Strange people. In the interest of family relations, I didn't take the opportunity to discuss their language deficiencies.

DanO - 8-12-2006 at 03:32 PM

I have to admire that Southern ability to stretch a single syllable into two (as in "wey-ell," the pronunciation of "well"). Funny thing is, you spend time in places like that and you start talking like the locals without even knowing it. After four months in Tennessee, I came back saying "y'all," much to the amusement of my Californian friends.

I've also learned that Californians do indeed have an accent, at least according to New Yorkers. I was at a party years ago in Queens, fresh off the plane from Cali, and a friend introduced me to a very attractive blonde girl. She looked at me, smiled, and said, "so, I heah yeh frem frickin' Califawnyeh. Say Noo Yawhk." So I said "New York," and she practically fell down laughing. I lost the California accent pretty quickly after that, not being interested at getting laughed at by cute women.

Californians have no accent

thebajarunner - 8-12-2006 at 04:15 PM

Not to appear presumptuous, but since virtually all media is centered in LA the nation has adapted to SoCal as the 'national accent"
Thus, we Westerners have inherited what is perceived to be the common intonation of speech in the U.S.
And yes, DanO, the Southern inflection seems to be contagious.
Listen to the NASCAR guys get interviewed on TV.
Last week Kasey Kahne, born and raised in Western Washington, was interviewed and he talked like his mouth was full of marbles and grits...

Hey! Runner

Baja Bernie - 8-12-2006 at 04:49 PM

I got up at 0230 and pored over my new book. The key board did get a bit sticky as I accidently poured a bit of that thick black stuff where it should not have gone.
I turned my spell checker off because each time a finger sturck that awful red, wavery stuff appeared and severly dampened my interest in poring over, under, or around my silly prose.

Hey, that intonation stuff is that what the lady's use before having their toes painted.

Bob H - 8-12-2006 at 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DanO
I have to admire that Southern ability to stretch a single syllable into two (as in "wey-ell," the pronunciation of "well").



DanO... you are "right on" here. Most of my family is from Alabama (I grew up in Miami, so I have a Cuban accent, naw only kidding). My brother's name is Ed, and my parents pronounce this two letter name with two syllables, "A-yed"
I'm cracking up at this. And words like "yellow" come up "yellar". You gotta love it.
Bob H:lol:

Skeet/Loreto - 8-13-2006 at 02:54 AM

I wos twenty-One years old before I knew Damn-Yankee was two Words!

You-All
Yawl
Skeet

Runner

Baja Bernie - 8-13-2006 at 01:53 PM

'School marm' is how I acknowledge you in my new book--Right up front. I also said a few other nice things about you knowing that you will rush out and buy a million to give to a few of your friends. jejejejejejejejejej (spelled that one right).

never could understand

woody with a view - 8-13-2006 at 02:02 PM

or find that damn "R" in the word "wash". gunna go warsh yer truck, pa!

comitan - 8-13-2006 at 03:05 PM

Woody

I'm Born and raised in California as is my wife, and when one of our daughters got old enough to go out and work, she came back why do you guys always say warsh there is no" r" in wash, I have no idea why we say it that way and we still do!!!!!!!!!!!!

my favorite

sylens - 8-13-2006 at 03:54 PM

pronunciation "thing" is bostonian. yanking the "r" out of haaved (harvard) and sticking it where it does not, imho, belong, in "cuber.":lol:

Bernie--- school marm it is?

thebajarunner - 8-13-2006 at 04:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Baja Bernie
'School marm' is how I acknowledge you in my new book--Right up front. I also said a few other nice things about you knowing that you will rush out and buy a million to give to a few of your friends. jejejejejejejejejej (spelled that one right).


Well, as we both know, the gender is slightly off, but I accept the designation with no small amount of pride and affection (I love you, Man!!)
Anyway, I do not have 1 million friends,
I cut it off at 750,000 due to excessive demands upon my time.
And yes, I have already ordered the entire first printing of your book, which will assure its best seller status.... perhaps the New York Times Book Review will pick it up as a featured item when it hits the stands.

Baja Bernie - 8-13-2006 at 07:58 PM

Like I said, I knew he would come through if for no other reason than to see his name on the cover and high above mine. So that none of you will draw the wrong conclusions for that, "I love you man" statement. Neither the runner or I have ever met--But somehow the feeling is mutual.

Crazy what the net can do.

Debra - 8-13-2006 at 08:03 PM

Kind of like "Warshingon State" Sheesh! :O

toneart - 8-14-2006 at 03:54 PM

Everybody knows that Californians are all from somewhere else!:lol: So....the errant belief that Californians have no accent just doesn't warsh.

We're ALL from Somewhere Else.

MrBillM - 8-14-2006 at 04:43 PM

It just depends on how far back the family line goes.

Personally, I'm in favor of anyone in California that can't trace their lineage there to 1909 having to leave.

I'd get to stay.

Too bad it can't happen, but I can dream, can't I ?