BajaNomad - Drugs -- small amount OK? Or not OK?

Drugs -- small amount OK? Or not OK?

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Lee - 10-3-2006 at 03:04 PM

A LA Times article recently said Mexico was going to allow people to be in possession of small amounts of drugs. Don't know the exact amount. Less than an ounce of pot?

Anyone know if the checkpoints are OK with that?

Just curious. I don't want to test the water on this one.

Regards,

Lee
:cool:

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 03:05 PM

give it a go, as they say, and get back to us about it.

Diver - 10-3-2006 at 03:24 PM

Wait just a munite and I'll run down to a checkpoint and ask.....NOT !

I am continously amazed at the actions of some people's kids :lol:

I guess maybe that's part of what keeps life interesting ? Maybe NOT !

jimgrms - 10-3-2006 at 03:28 PM

Lee don't test the water you might be meeting bubba pancho in the slammer'never used it but pot can't be that good

Martyman - 10-3-2006 at 03:30 PM

If you are bringing weed I would hide it really well. I'm sure the checkpoint 17 year old soldiers would love to find a doobie. They'd smoke it that night and you'd be in jail (unless you paid the right mordida!!).
I'm continuously amazed at old fogies who make fun of people that ask a legitimate question.

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 03:32 PM

that was not a legit question.

You answer was legit though.

[Edited on 10-3-2006 by Bajamatic]

Hmmmmm...

bigzaggin - 10-3-2006 at 03:36 PM

the Mexican government may or may not have said such a thing, but keep in mind, that's the same government that promises, "With your toll, we make the highway better."

Cypress - 10-3-2006 at 03:46 PM

Am I'm missing something? :wow:

You're thinking about slipping some pot "into" Mexico? :?:

Isn't there something wrong with that idea? :rolleyes:

Seem's like there's more than enough there already. :lol:

Hook - 10-3-2006 at 04:08 PM

I dont think that law ever passed. Believe that Fox did the equivalent of a veto.

Dont be obvious about it if you insist on taking a chance. These checkpoints searches are so cursory that there are many ways of hiding it if you are determined to do it. Maybe the best method I've heard is putting the buds into a film canister and sinking it into the middle of a peanut butter jar.

But the best advice is, dont bring it.

Learn the value of good tequila, grasshopper..................

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 04:11 PM

does anyone know the law regarding person searches? On thing I've noticed is that at those checkpoints they go through your stuff sometimes like they are POSITIVE there is a pound of cocain in the very last bag in your car, but they NEVER do a pat down. Curious thing. I always wondered if there was a law about searching a person's body.

bancoduo - 10-3-2006 at 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajamatic
does anyone know the law regarding person searches? On thing I've noticed is that at those checkpoints they go through your stuff sometimes like they are POSITIVE there is a pound of cocain in the very last bag in your car, but they NEVER do a pat down. Curious thing. I always wondered if there was a law about searching a person's body.

Old fogie says; It depends on if its dead or alive. STUPIDO :lol:

BajaWarrior - 10-3-2006 at 04:54 PM

Uh, lets see, bad idea or good idea? BAD!

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 04:59 PM

Quote:

Old fogie says; It depends on if its dead or alive.

uh, lets see, Dead. STUPIDO :lol:

Frank - 10-3-2006 at 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cypress
Am I'm missing something? :wow:

You're thinking about slipping some pot "into" Mexico? :?:

Isn't there something wrong with that idea? :rolleyes:

Seem's like there's more than enough there already. :lol:

jerry - 10-3-2006 at 05:28 PM

i think its like being a little bit pregnant?? :yes:

shari - 10-3-2006 at 05:35 PM

The D.A. says you can legally have a small amount of grass but it's not really worth the risk of running into some other macho policia that can give you a hard time. Best to keep it on your person but last time I passed through one of the checkpoints they DID have a drug dog...new...so maybe it's not such a good idea...also be very careful buying weed as the guy you buy it from makes more from the cops when he fingers you...fishermen are your best bet and they won't sell it but might pass some on....trading something might be a good idea. Not that I would know anything about this!!! Friends have told me...

Diver - 10-3-2006 at 06:00 PM

What's a small amount to you may not be a small amount to the cops, eh ??

It comes to mind that if you are asking the question on this board, then you are not savy enough to try anything, slick !
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Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerry
i think its like being a little bit pregnant??

might borrow that one if you don't mind - I'll bring it back i swear.

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 06:20 PM

Quote:

*Mexican legal drug proposal rejected*

_Fox vetoes bill amid growing U.S. criticism_

May 4, 2006

MEXICO CITY – President Vicente Fox vetoed a controversial bill last night that would have permitted the possession of small quantities of drugs, sending the measure back to Congress after mounting criticism from the United States that his administration was backing away from drug enforcement.

Fox refused to sign the bill in hopes of eliminating “any doubt that in our country the possession and consumption of drugs are and will continue being crimes.”

there it is - cold hard "print"

[Edited on 10-4-2006 by Bajamatic]

[Edited on 10-4-2006 by Bajamatic]

Dumb and Dumber

thebajarunner - 10-3-2006 at 06:20 PM

First of all, that law was never enacted.

Second, anyone starting a question about Mexico with "Isn't there a law.....?" is already in trouble.

Finally, talking your grass past the kid at the checkpoint would be real bright... why don't you try to pet the Doberman at the end of the cop's choke chain while you are at it?

Hope you like a steady diet of frijoles with rocks on cardboard tortillas, that is what they will feed you for the next 8 or 10 years...

(I never tried it, either, cannot imagine it would be worth the payback down South)

Oso - 10-3-2006 at 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook
sinking it into the middle of a peanut butter jar.

No less an authority than Rev. Skeeter gave that advice. But if you want to be reaally safe, if a bit uncomfortable, use the prison transport system and "sink" it into a different "vessel" of similar substance. :lol:

surfer jim - 10-3-2006 at 06:28 PM

I (and a friend) have been searched (frisked) before at a checkpoint...very closely....

Bajamatic - 10-3-2006 at 06:30 PM

there it is. my theory destroyed. hope they didn't spend too much time on the nuts.

Bajabus - 10-3-2006 at 06:54 PM

I think it is way to risky and not worth the possible consequences.

If you do it you better hide it real well and don't light up while driving cause if you are not familiar with where the check points are you are likely come up on one at the wrong moment and that would be really bad.

Some folks....I hear..... that drive it have stashes at key places along the route for convinience. You might want to consider this approach if you find some and might be driving down again in the future.

mtgoat666 - 10-3-2006 at 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee
A LA Times article recently said Mexico was going to allow people to be in possession of small amounts of drugs. Don't know the exact amount. Less than an ounce of pot?

Anyone know if the checkpoints are OK with that?

Just curious. I don't want to test the water on this one.
:cool:

The guys at the checkpoints probably do not read the LA Times. The guys at the checkpoints would probably give a hard time to a pothead from LA.

Paulina - 10-3-2006 at 07:22 PM

Early 80s in San Felipe a young boy walked up to us offering for sale a baggie full of something leafy and green. As we declined, a police car pulled up to the scene. Because the Americanos were not interested the police took the baggie back from the boy, thanked him and sent him on his way. Just thought I'd share that as one can never be too careful.

Regarding the plan to stash your stash along the way, that puts a whole new spin on geocaching!

P<*)))><

alaskabazaar - 10-3-2006 at 07:30 PM

Mexico is not Amsterdam. You must be new to international travel, cops and jails.

I can't even imagine anyone asking this question!

surfer jim - 10-3-2006 at 07:39 PM

Years ago I read the book (and saw the movie.... MIDNIGHT EXPRESS)....

DavidT - 10-3-2006 at 08:26 PM

There is some in the little pumphouse behind Diaz's rooms in BOLA, it's five years old and you are welcome to it, if you can get past the spiders.

Timbercrete - 10-3-2006 at 08:35 PM

Oh....It's OK....Just make sure and hide it next to the gun... :lol:

Lee - 10-3-2006 at 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alaskabazaar
Mexico is not Amsterdam. You must be new to international travel, cops and jails.

I can't even imagine anyone asking this question!

Hey, I'm a Newbie. It was an honest question and I got some honest answers.

Put it in the peanut butter jar, don't pet the dope dogs, don't smoke on the road unless you know where the checkpoint's are, bring enough to share, and don't stop in the Declaration lane. Do I have that right?

Didn't read former Pres. Fox's turnaround, anyway.

Guess I'll have to leave my medical doob's behind?

Regards,

:cool:

[Edited on 10-4-2006 by Lee]

The Sculpin - 10-3-2006 at 08:53 PM

Shari is right..go to the fisherman. Go to the Saturday night c-ckfights. Bet on a few. Don't be stingy, but don't through money around, either. Pretty soon, they'll get over a P-nche gringo in their midst, and you'll make a few friends. Before you know it, you're toking and knocking back a few with the local constabulary - their treat!

Now that's how to make friends for life!

Diver - 10-3-2006 at 09:25 PM

Funny thing;

When I crossed back over into the US last time, I had my two yellow labs in the back of the pick-up. The guys at the ag inspection had a yellow lab also. When I asked if the dogs was for explosives or drugs they didn't specify.

They held the dog back from my truck as another officer went through my refrig for illegal veggies. When I asked "why no dog search ?" they said that the dog was near useless with our dogs around.
Now there's an interesting little tidbit !
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BajaJim - 10-3-2006 at 09:33 PM

If you need to get high that bad, I would risk it. Maybe some time in a Mexican jail will calm your urges.

A stupid question for Diver

Sharksbaja - 10-3-2006 at 09:37 PM

Where the heck is the ag inspection?? What are the illegal veggies they're lookin' fer? Thanks.

Lee - 10-3-2006 at 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaJim
If you need to get high that bad, I would risk it. Maybe some time in a Mexican jail will calm your urges.

Maybe you need to have a toke and calm down.

I did try it once but didn't exhale.

Regards,

Sharksbaja - 10-4-2006 at 12:52 AM

:lol:

Diver - 10-4-2006 at 02:08 AM

Ag inspection;

Heading back to the US at Tecate, you pull up to the booth on the US side and when they ask if you have any fruit or produce, and you say "Heck, I don't know what my wife left back there." That is when they have you pull around the tight corner and park for an agricultural inspection on the US side. They took lettuce, avocados and citrus.
Actually, I think I remember having to do the same type of inpsection when we crossed at TJ 2 years ago. Not knowing exactly what veggies they are restricting, we always offer for them to look, rather than get nailed for importing the all-feared, "restricted" produce.
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Diver - 10-4-2006 at 02:09 AM

BTW, next time we will hide all our illegal produce in the dog's bed !! :lol:

Skeet/Loreto - 10-4-2006 at 03:52 AM

Since my Name was brought into this "Fray", I will respond, though I still feel that Monica could have picked a much better Person{ A Man of Character instead of a Wimp}!
Being an "Ole Timer"-Not an Old Fogy- I would suggest the following:

If you find a need to get "High", try the following:
Go out to the Airport at Elsinore and do a couple of "Free Falls".
Go up to Bishop Calif. get a Glider Ride over the Sierras.
Get a Job as a Policeman-request Duty in East LA/South Central.
Join the Natl. Ski Patrol-Go to Mammouth- Help the Injured- After Skiing the "Cornice". Stop in at the "Hot Minerals Baths-Go Skinny Dipping with your Ski Patrol Buddies/Ladies!
Go to Loreto-Buy a Panga-Go out 35 Miles to the Reef- Fantastic Fishing!
Come to Texas- Become a "Bull Rider-Compete in the Local Rodeos.

You will then not have any "Need" to take DOPE to Baja.!!!!!

Last but the most important- Join a Local Church of your Choice_ More people go to Church on a Weekend than go to those so-called Movies that are Produced by the most Physical, Mental Degenerate People in the World, who control the LA Times!

If you must take DOPE to Baja, place it in a Condom,, tie Tightly, place in a Jar of Peanut Butter, take a Black Lab with you and hope like Hell that you do not get Caught.

Skeet/Loreto
Skeeter Peter
Anon The Preacher
Skeet/Texas

capt. mike - 10-4-2006 at 04:45 AM

guess you all haven't been to Vallarta or Cancun in a while, or ever..........
you can freely buy anything you want from a myriad of beach vendors posing as selling shirts or blankets, then if they surmise you are "cool", they ask if you'd like some motta or lleyo (pot, coke) - and they whip out pre packaged small qtys ready to go for cash! I am not on the stuff myself , but with anonymous friends at their beach-front time share we had all THEY wanted for a week.

I only lick toad backs for sport now. Safe, a mild high, and possession of toads is still a misdemeanor most countries.

Cypress - 10-4-2006 at 06:36 AM

capt. mike is right about the availability of pot in Mexico, very easy to purchase.

Licking those toads can cause tongue warts.

What is that I smell

pangamadness - 10-4-2006 at 07:05 AM

good work.jpg - 45kB

Gotcha,

pangamadness - 10-4-2006 at 07:07 AM

Gotcha 2nd try

pangamadness - 10-4-2006 at 07:08 AM

the load.jpg - 37kB

chino - 10-4-2006 at 07:32 AM

Lee, I really hope you dont try this, we know of a man who spent 10 years
in Mexicali for a roach.
Last year at a checkpoint the boys found a tobaco pipe that my son had in his luggage, the problem was it was a hash pipe and they couldnt find any pipe tobaco add in the marine base radio in the camper and the two handhelds and I was detained, sitting alone on the ground for what seemed like hours. It didnt take much to build a case!

Skeet/Loreto - 10-4-2006 at 09:34 AM

Back in the Good Ole Days:
Only a Couple of Guys "Sniffing Socks, loaded with Glue"!
In 1976 I was Helping build a Papala with Papa Murillo, when I got a Heat Stroke trying to keep up with him cutting Ojas. My Freinds put me in a Bathtub full of cold water after I became Delerious, then I remember one of the Freinds showing up with a small Pot, with a DOPE Plant growing Tall.
He suggested that it might Help if I smoked some of that Plant Dryed.
Today I do not remember anything until I woke up in the small Clinic in Loreto where I received 16 Bottles of "Swdea". and A shot of 8,000 CC of Potussum saved my Life.
Some time later a group of Federales made a Raid on that Place, saying that since my Airplane was parked on a Small Strip above the Bay, that I must be Hauling DOPE.
Sometime later a Helicoptor Gunner shot and Killed a Hauler just North of that Location.
Also a short time later a 50Ft Yacht loaded with DOPE was Blown out of the Water with a 105 Cannon mounted on a Patrol Boat{Eastside of Carmen}
Some of that Stuff may still be in Good condition; Any divers who would like to Dive and find out can pay my Expenses to Loreto and I will Mark the Location for their Recovery Efforts.

Advice; If you smoke Dope-Buy it after you get to your Destination- Do Not Haul It!!!!

vgabndo - 10-4-2006 at 11:17 AM

I can cnfirm part of Skeet's story. Acquaintences saw the body of the guy shot from the helo. His panga washed up at San Sebastian.

Word on the street last time I was in Loreto was that the Policia had a storefront where they were selling confiscated drugs of all kinds on the premise that if it was available at a fair price, there would be less crime to get the big money required to buy it on the street. The cops were supposedly telling the chronic users: get a job, earn the money, get it here, but if you steal for the money we're going to MAKE YOU PAY.

There are thoughtful people in this country who think we could learn something from that. There is a lot of illegal weed grown in Northern California. The fact that it has remained illegal has pushed to price up to that of gold. (until the recent escalation of gold prices) Since the illicit product can be grown by anyone on their window sill, a huge amount of our tax dollars are being spent on the cat and mouse game played by law enforcement. This is pretty strange when you consider that the social cost of weed can't begin to compare with that of Tobacco and Alcohol. NOBODY gets jailed for selling the killer drug tobacco to a minor!

pargo - 10-4-2006 at 11:38 AM

Uhmm! "Just say no." "D.A.R.E." "Nope to Dope, "ugh to drugs" etc etc. ... What happened to all that?

Hey Pangamadness! looks like you figured out how to send pictures finally. Can you tell this dummy how to do it? purdy plees?

Not that anybody appears to care-------------

Barry A. - 10-4-2006 at 11:56 AM

---------but in my opinion, generally speaking, ILLEGAL DRUG use is Civilization's most important and distressing problem today, bar none. It WILL eventually bring us as a society to our knees thru shear lack of initiative, un-productivity, and the staggering costs.

I'm clean, really

Lee - 10-4-2006 at 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vgabndo

Word on the street last time I was in Loreto was that the Policia had a storefront where they were selling confiscated drugs of all kinds on the premise that if it was available at a fair price, there would be less crime to get the big money required to buy it on the street. The cops were supposedly telling the chronic users: get a job, earn the money, get it here, but if you steal for the money we're going to MAKE YOU PAY.
___________________

My initial question might have labeled me as a pothead. I'm actually a reformed pothead, kinda. I could have peeed in a bottle for the past five years and it would be clean enough to pass any test.

Thought Pres. Fox was headed in the right direction -- if it was his idea -- but I know US pressured changing things. And this stuff was news -- LA, SanFran, NYTimes, etc. But I didn't see the follow up.

If someone were to ask me about doing anything illegal in Baja, I'd go out of my way to help them understand that they shouldn't do anything illegal. Including bringing a joint across the border. There is too much pot down South to risk the consequences of getting busted at a checkpoint. I can vouch for that but can't go into it here.

So, if I've created misunderstanding, sorry. For those concerned for my safety, I thank you.

Don't do anything illegal in Baja. Don't speed, full stop at stop signs, don't drive ATVs on the beach. Chill, go slow, have fun.

Regards, and Semper Fi,
:cool:

Hook - 10-4-2006 at 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pargo
Uhmm! "Just say no." "D.A.R.E." "Nope to Dope, "ugh to drugs" etc etc. ... What happened to all that?

Hey Pangamadness! looks like you figured out how to send pictures finally. Can you tell this dummy how to do it? purdy plees?

Pargo, the secret is to reduce the file size of your photos until they are under 50 kilobytes, as I recall. I use Photoshop, do a "save as" and convert the jpeg to a size under this amount. Generally, I find that you can post a 640x480 photo if you reduce the sliding compression scale down to about 3 (out of 12). Photoshop displays the file size as you slide the compression scale.

If you dont have a photo-editing software that gives you a file size in advance, you will have to adjust the size and compression of the photos, "save as" and then look at the file size after saving. Very time consuming but you should be able to figure out a set parameter for photos from your digital cam that you can use each time.

Then, use the attachment window at the bottom of the "reply" window, browse to the file on your computer......and it should work. If the file is too large, there is no indication of this by the Nomad software. It just doesnt appear.

pargo - 10-4-2006 at 12:08 PM

Hook, Thanks a mill! The attachment part is what I wasn't sure of.....Durrr.right in front of me the whole time

BTW,

Hook - 10-4-2006 at 12:12 PM

I didnt learn about the peanut butter trick from Skeet. I read it somewhere else.

Now watch, they will start confiscating my Laura Scudder's in G.N. and on the return at San Ysidro in the hopes of getting some stash.

I go into deep withdrawals without my peanut butter....... :mad:

THAT'S my addiction! :lol:

Edit: I need to make this clear. I dont bring dope to Mexico. Alcohol replaced that stuff LONG ago as my method of relaxation.

[Edited on 10-4-2006 by Hook]

Cypress - 10-4-2006 at 12:14 PM

Listen to Lee's advice.

pargo - 10-4-2006 at 12:25 PM

WAY TO BE LEE....stay strong.....OOORAH!

Oh, the hypocracy!

Sharksbaja - 10-4-2006 at 12:59 PM

Ah, the hypocracy! God bless Americans
and their repentance. :saint:

You really feel the world will collapse from drug use? Not if the pharmaceutical corps have anything to say about it. :lol:

Our generation has to be the most hypocritical since someone said "just say no"!

Interesting how alcohol isn't an issue until you run over someone or worse. Hey, where's the common sense using any drug?. Not in that bottle. :no:

Who has the power to decide all that for us anyhoo? George Bush? Nancy Reagan? Bill Bennet? Alfred E. Neuman? Maybe Rush Limbaugh? :lol:

No offense but I'd rather take my chances with a lib.

i.e. less pot-smokers in jail... more child abusers in jail!

Ok people...bring it on! :rolleyes:

Bajamatic - 10-4-2006 at 01:14 PM

legalize don't criticize

Debra - 10-4-2006 at 01:22 PM

The only commet I will add to this debate is.....

If you do decide to transport illeagle Anything, PLEASE, please advise your fellow traveling companions.....I'd like the option of getting out and walking!

We're all in the same boat

Lee - 10-4-2006 at 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Ah, the hypocracy! God bless Americans
and their repentance. :saint:

You really feel the world will collapse from drug use? Not if the pharmaceutical corps have anything to say about it. :lol:

No offense but I'd rather take my chances with a lib.

i.e. less pot-smokers in jail... more child abusers in jail!

Ok people...bring it on! :rolleyes:

Somewhere, awhile back, I heard someone say that alcoholics are looking for God. On some level, I think that's true. I'm not getting into a religious rant here. (I come from a large family of cops and drug addicts, sad to say.)

Drugs numb the pain. How do we deal with pain? Some have the core strenght to say no, and tough life out. Others are weak and need help. In many years of law enforcement, I never busted someone for having less than an ounce for personal possession. But I've worked with cops who said they don't care if it's a joint or a pound, pot is illegal and you're busted. That sucks.

So, the war on drugs is a joke. Throwing drug users in jail -- tweakers and junkies alike -- without rehab, is also a joke. I know.

Let's take the damn millions we're spending everyday in Iraq and help the people at home. If that sounds democratic or liberal, then so be it. Prisons are useless for drug offenders. And just saying no is a cliche.

More drug treatment clinics and people who are willing not to judge their brothers and sisters who are lost?

Peace Love and Understand (yes, and fish tacos) might be a start. I'm pushing 60, a product of the 60s (Berkeley) and drugs are symtomatic of a deeper problem. Been there, done that.

So many problems, so little time. Maybe just do a little everyday to make the world a better place?

Regards,

:coolup:

Bajabus - 10-4-2006 at 01:49 PM

Here is a pretty good thread/civil debate on legalization that took place on this board back in 2002.

It might be worth a read to some folks.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=172#pid916

vgabndo - 10-4-2006 at 02:16 PM

I'm shoulder to shoulder with you Sharks. Tobacco kills WAAAAY more Americans than all the street drugs put together. Alcohol had something to do with at least half of the cases that got people sent to prison. Now if I just had a dollar for every time I've seen an off duty cop with a cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other.......

Uh-Oh

bigzaggin - 10-4-2006 at 02:16 PM

Once again, we've somehow veered off all-things-Baja onto all-things-soapbox. I know, I know, you hate the president. I get it, the war on drugs is stupid. File Under: 100 Things Overhead At The Coffeeshop.

Now, back to business...

Baja is rad...don't you think? Who agrees with me?

BajaWarrior - 10-4-2006 at 02:22 PM

ok, ok, there is a little saying I like to say from time to time, he who is without sin shall cast the first stone? Something like that. Guilty! (once upon a time)

Lee, legit question, sorry for the hassle, now lets bring up some religion or politics and really see the forum freak out!

Bajamatic - 10-4-2006 at 02:25 PM

don't panic its organic

DanO - 10-4-2006 at 02:35 PM

What is all this talk about toad licking? Did I miss something?

Huh?

bigzaggin - 10-4-2006 at 02:39 PM

Bajamatic, are you talking about produce? Because if you are, maybe you SHOULD panic. Recent FDA studies suggest organic fruits and vegetables contain unsafe amounts of both ITES and BULAI, known carcinogens. Furthermore, studies have found a conclusive link between organically grown kale and foot cancer.

So perhaps it's panic time INDEED.

Now, about Baja...I am super into it. Who's with me?

Thanks Bajabus

Sharksbaja - 10-4-2006 at 02:47 PM

Very good thread.

Bajabus - 10-4-2006 at 02:54 PM

The crime wave in baja that affects all of us traveling and living down there is a direct result of failed drug policies. Lets keep politics and the president out of it and just discuss policy. Think we can have a respectful discussion on those terms.

Thanks sharks...it was one of the most respectful debates I ever saw on this board.

[Edited on 4-10-2006 by Bajabus]

bigzaggin - 10-4-2006 at 04:23 PM

ohh. ne la oana, mahi mahi a o'o'a'aiu'a laka'oo'nia'pu'u'. NE LA BULA AI.

Bruce R Leech - 10-4-2006 at 05:18 PM

Edith has 2 uncles that did 3 years for 1 M.J. cigarette. I got to visit them and it wasn't to bad.

Jaysus, Jaysus!

Dave - 10-4-2006 at 05:39 PM

I need to check in to Betty Ford.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajabus
Here is a pretty good thread/civil debate on legalization that took place on this board back in 2002.

I referred to myself as 'liberal'...Twice.

(Must have been pretty high that night.)

Bajamatic - 10-4-2006 at 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigzaggin
ohh. ne la oana, mahi mahi a o'o'a'aiu'a laka'oo'nia'pu'u'. NE LA BULA AI.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Bajame - 10-4-2006 at 06:05 PM

In San Ignaico this morning they caught three teens smoking pot. They made all parents come to the school and after took the kids that were caught and parents to La Paz. They made a big deal out of it and I wouldnt want to be the one that gave those kids the pot!

Bajabus - 10-4-2006 at 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
I need to check in to Betty Ford.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajabus
Here is a pretty good thread/civil debate on legalization that took place on this board back in 2002.

I referred to myself as 'liberal'...Twice.

(Must have been pretty high that night.)

Dave, I re-read that thread and caught that also. I did a double take...pretty funny

Oso - 10-4-2006 at 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigzaggin
ohh. ne la oana, mahi mahi a o'o'a'aiu'a laka'oo'nia'pu'u'. NE LA BULA AI.

Who stola my pakalola? :?:

Dave - 10-4-2006 at 09:44 PM

I meant 'Liberal' in the classic sense. But I don't think GW, Dick and the rest of 'the boys' would understand.

So....I guess now I'm in real trouble. ;-)

Maybe I could just tell 'em I'm an alcoholic and was diddled by my parish priest.

Oso - 10-4-2006 at 09:58 PM

Better quit that ALCOHOL! Apparently it will turn you into a homosexual, rabidly antisemitic, pedophilic, hoar-mongering, reckless-driving, wife-beating, larcenous, bribe-taking, car-shooting, secretary-drowning, rapist with halitosis. All through no fault of your own, of course. :rolleyes:

Bajagrande - 10-4-2006 at 10:16 PM

[Edited on 10-5-2006 by Bajagrande]

Skeet/Loreto - 10-5-2006 at 04:09 AM

Sharks:
The only one who has the Power to "Control their Desires and Keep Their Passions within Due Bounds" is that person who "Excerises his/her "Free Will and Accord!!!
Beer is Big in Texas
Hard Liquor is Big Everywhere
Dope is Big Everywhere
Prisons are Full-Calif. and Texas the Largest Populations.
Most Criminals are there because of their DOPE Use--FACT!!!!
More Drug Users as Criminals than Liquor Drug Users--FACTS!!

If someone's Mind is so weak that it is necessary for them to use DOPE, there has to be a Reason for that Weakness-Birth-Rearing-Enviorment of the Home and Parents- Schools- O'Leary's Teachings- Sales of DOPE Equipt.
Lack of Responsibility-

For a challenge to You:
What is the realationship to DOPE users/ Church Going Christians/Mormons/Catholics etc??

Seems as if there is a Division Hollywood/Religious People.
Personally I will take the Religious Side- I worked Hollywood for Three Years.
I prefer a Good Shot of Tequila/Glass of Red Wine/or a Carte Blanca

Skeet

Skeet/Loreto - 10-5-2006 at 04:28 AM

Next Post:
Being from the Time that there was not very much DOPE around, I have observed many Changes during those Years.Being a Hobo for a couple of years, riding the Rails, Hitching, Walking, I do not remember any DOPE use, only Tokay, Muscat, if you include Wine as a Drug.
The 60's, Berkeley, The Flower children, The Hippies, started the change in our Culture some Good-Some Bad.
Being a Student in Criminalogy-Police Officer did affect my life in many ways.
We could all dwell on the Past, as I sometimes do, and never agree on the Basic Causes of DOPE use.

However , that being said, I would like to Know:
What can we do Now and in the Future about the Criminal use of DOPE????

Skeet/Loreto

This Bud's for you...

Lee - 10-5-2006 at 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Next Post:
Being a Student in Criminalogy-Police Officer did affect my life in many ways.
We could all dwell on the Past, as I sometimes do, and never agree on the Basic Causes of DOPE use.

How about it's just fun, sometimes? Like a Pacifico con limon in a chilled glass?

Anything in moderation?

Regards,

Please STOP...

bigzaggin - 10-5-2006 at 08:05 AM

CAPITALIZING the word DOPE every time you SAY it. I feel like I am being YELLED at by a COP. Wait..am I? And congrats on noting a POSSIBLE "division [between] Hollywood/Religion people," my votegetter for astute observation of the year.

But ENOUGH about with bickering! Let's talk BAJA! Let's have som fun! Isn't that why we're here!??!? Okay, I'll go first:

What is the most beautiful campsite in all of Baja: The bluff at La Fonda OR the lot at San Miguel? Tough call! Thoughts????

Bruce R Leech - 10-5-2006 at 08:13 AM

Just don't inhale it

Bigzaggin

Baja Bernie - 10-5-2006 at 08:36 AM

Now that you have said the most important words--"Let's talk Baja" and the sillyness of the (small letters) dope thing is past (cops really do not need to holler) I vote for my place of 26 years at La Salina--I could be at either of the other places you mentioned in about 20 minutes.

Oh! Yes, most of the old timers know I was a cop for over 25 years so you guys might as well know it also.

Grover

Baja Bernie - 10-5-2006 at 09:07 AM

Oso forgot to mention that excessive use has a tendency to turn the drinker into A BEAR.

Skeet/Loreto - 10-5-2006 at 09:40 AM

O.K. Lee!! Make you a Deal! Get some of the Posters from calling us "Ole Fogeys", Religious Nuts, etc. tne that way I will not have to spell dope-DOPE. Do we have a Deal???

This board is Great, because of its People-Not there Opinions- Lera and I are complete opposites in Politics but we are still Friends!
Baja Bus uses his Signature to Downgrade Bush_ I sometimes mention the "Wimp" along with that Great Company Haliaburton.

So relax and enjoy Baja and its People- as I have since 1968- Maybe enough to stop Smoking{if you Do} If that would Happen , I would be content that "The Prayer of Jabez" is working!-See Chron 1 4:10 in the King James Bible.

Anon The Preacher

Martyman - 10-5-2006 at 09:55 AM

Is Jabez a relative of Jaba the Hutt?

Hey Skeet

vgabndo - 10-5-2006 at 11:48 AM

" Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." (Gen 9:3).

Debra - 10-5-2006 at 12:10 PM

You guys are tooooo funny!

Newbies: Welcome! Good to see the 'oldies' have someone new to argue with. (as suggested, ya might want to do a search, this has been debated many, many times) good to see that everyone is being polite (it got pretty ugly in the past) this time I'm enjoying it. (go figure?)

Skeeter, Luv ya still......your wisdom, if abit harsh at times, is always appreceited. Hugs, Debra

Bajamatic - 10-5-2006 at 12:30 PM

I was wondering when the autocrats would chime in.

Quote:

Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto

if you consider wine a drug....

What can we do Now and in the Future about the Criminal use of DOPE????

Skeet/Loreto

The same thing you old fogeys did with wine - LEGALIZE IT.

Sure alot of cops here....

Lee - 10-5-2006 at 12:33 PM

.... feeling just like home. Must be the Baja climate.

The search engine is great. What some great threads back when with everyone getting along saying some very intelligent and thoughtfull things. This is a great group. Sure glad I found you all.

Best camp grounds: Cerritos (before it got populated); San Pedrito (before it closed).

Regards,

Cypress - 10-5-2006 at 12:33 PM

Guess the bottom line is that some drugs are legal, some aren't. When you break the law and get nailed, your life can take a downward turn. Jail, on either side of the border isn't a fun thing.

Why no bios or location....

Lee - 10-5-2006 at 12:37 PM

..... for those who have been around a few posts?

I check out most people to see where they're coming from. Just a thought.

Regards,

Lee

Baja Bernie - 10-5-2006 at 02:23 PM

I also check the folks out just as anyone should--but I doubt that you will get much action on bio's. You'll just have to read between the lines with a lot of folks.

If they wanted to give a history they would start with their real names--but only a few of us have for whatever reason.

I normally try not to hijack threads but this one has gone in so many directions I don't even feel bad in answering you.

A little more about me--I am one of the old resident conservatives who does not talk dirty when discussing things with other folks who think on their own.

Oh! Yeah! I write books on Baja. See my website.

And I suppose...

bigzaggin - 10-5-2006 at 02:36 PM

we should expect complete disclosure online? I mean, the internet is a KNOWN bastion of transparency. C'MON PEOPLE - they're called "SCREEN NAMES." How totally colorless would chats & forums be if populated by folks names "Jeff Stevens" and "Ted Johnson."

But seriously, let's get back to the business of sharing our collective Baja expertise. I'll go first: The best place in all of Baja to experience TRUE local culture and come to REALLY know the people is the Rosarito Beach Hotel...especially on Memorial Day Weekend.

Anyone else?

Feel the love

Lee - 10-5-2006 at 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigzaggin
But seriously, let's get back to the business of sharing our collective Baja expertise. I'll go first: The best place in all of Baja to experience TRUE local culture and come to REALLY know the people is the Rosarito Beach Hotel...especially on Memorial Day Weekend.

Anyone else?

I LOVE La Paz, Loreto for culture. Down right hate the driving/drivers in La Paz, though.

Regards,

Fine with me

Lee - 10-5-2006 at 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I also check the folks out just as anyone should--but I doubt that you will get much action on bio's. You'll just have to read between the lines with a lot of folks.

There are a few things I'll talk about in person but won't write about here or anywhere else. No problema. Comprendo.

I'll be ordering some books, Bernie. Thanks for getting them out there.

San Diego use to be a great town. Still is I guess.

Regards,

Bajamatic - 10-5-2006 at 03:25 PM

I really like the bluffs at K-38. If you wedge yourself between the ramshackle places there you can pop a tent and nobody bothers you - might be my favorite spot to sip Victorias and watch the sunset.

bancoduo - 10-5-2006 at 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oso
Better quit that ALCOHOL! Apparently it will turn you into a homosexual, rabidly antisemitic, pedophilic, hoar-mongering, reckless-driving, wife-beating, larcenous, bribe-taking, car-shooting, secretary-drowning, rapist with halitosis. All through no fault of your own, of course. :rolleyes:

Thats me! Only takes one cerveza. :tumble:

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