I have been coming across some very interesting information regarding what the locals consider their history. And I tend to believe them. Here's a
story.
When it came down to the last two full blooded Pericue, they were women. And they were finally rounded up and roped to be caught by the local
Rancheros. They were then taken to La Paz and one of them died. The other was finally released and she went back to the area she knew best to live out
her years. She gave birth to a mixed blood child of Portuguese (The Azores Islands) and Pericue descent.
This was the time of the settling of the Ranchos here in Baja by European mutineers and people finding out that Hacienda life was better than
shipboard life.
2 more generations passed and the great great Grandson of this Indian lady is my friend who still lives on the property.
Yes, there still is Pericue/Guaycura people still around. They just don't act like it anymore.
Pericu
bajalera - 12-21-2003 at 08:10 PM
Ski, I suppose one of the things you meant by "they just don't act like it any more" is that they wear clothes now. Personally, I've always considered
Pericu men's wear to have had some advantages. When men amble around buck-nekkid, women can be aware of what they're up to. Or are not.
- Lera
[Edited on 12-22-2003 by bajalera]
Very "observant"
Ski Baja - 12-21-2003 at 08:17 PM
That, combined with certain party habits they reputedly used to condone and practice regularly ! Something tells me that Stephanie probably prefers it the way it is.
PS
Ski Baja - 12-21-2003 at 08:18 PM
Lera, are you still gonna be down there the middle of January ?
Pericu
academicanarchist - 12-21-2003 at 09:35 PM
Are you suggesting that the women could tell who needed viagra?
Ancient Viagra
Ski Baja - 12-21-2003 at 10:05 PM
Something tells me they didn't need Viagra in those days. My Pericue buddy says that they have a drink down there that will keep you up for 2 days.
And it ain't Cocaine!Packoderm - 12-22-2003 at 12:17 AM
Speaking of history of minimalist survival, according to some scholars, thousands of years ago, there was once a 250 square mile area in Denmark that
contained every single blue-eyed person on earth. Outside of that area, there was not one single blue-eyed person to be found. And you can take that
one to Ripley?s or The Straight Dope. Nikon - 12-22-2003 at 08:45 AM
Whoa! !
Where'd you read that?Anonymous - 12-22-2003 at 10:35 AM
Thanks for the photos and post. I wish I had the ways and means to visit many of the places that you have been posting about. That's the part of
Baja that interest me the most. My method of exploring in Baja is basically "hit and miss." Just follow my nose; makes for interesting trips..."El
Mochilero"bajalera - 12-23-2003 at 11:24 AM
Ski - I hope so.
AA - Viagra? To lapse into academese: I think not. The "or are not" was intended to indicate lack of interest, not lack of capability. Some guys
simply wouldn't be interested in women.* And I assume there are others who don't have ulterior designs on every skirt that ambles down the pike but
are somewhat selective.
However, this has never been one of my areas of expertise, and I'm more than willing to accept corrections.
*Robert, this is going to give you the urge to deliver a lecture on the berdache. Please try to control it, so I won't have to unleash a rude comment
to make you aware that you've told me something I already know. I don't want to have to be rude at Christmas-time.
- Lera
[Edited on 12-23-2003 by bajalera]
Berdaches
academicanarchist - 12-24-2003 at 02:00 PM
The Spanish called them joyas, which is where the name for La Jolla came from.
Berdaches
academicanarchist - 12-24-2003 at 02:01 PM
Or are you thinking of the character from the Dustin Hoffman western "Little Big Man"?FrankO - 12-25-2003 at 12:32 AM
I thought La Jolla was the jewel. Teach me to think.
Berdaches
academicanarchist - 12-25-2003 at 06:45 AM
Frank. It was a joke, but you are right. La Jolla means jewel, and this was the same word used by the Spanish for berdaches, Indian men who dressed
and played the role of women.bajalera - 12-25-2003 at 08:52 PM
AA, that was a good joke--
Ski, that was an interesting Pericu story--
Hope you both have a happy holiday season! And all the other nomads too, of course . . .
Bajalera
[Edited on 12-26-2003 by bajalera]
Happy holidays
Ski Baja - 12-26-2003 at 11:24 AM
I hope yall had a wonderful Xmas and happy holidays as well. Thanks Lera, glad you enjoyed it.
Pacho, is your avatar the reason you are looking for an alternate means of travel ??Packoderm - 12-26-2003 at 02:07 PM
Nope Ski, my ride still goes.
Great answer
Ski Baja - 12-26-2003 at 09:57 PM
Speedy Gonzalez - 5-6-2004 at 03:56 PM
Quote:
This was the time of the settling of the Ranchos here in Baja by European mutineers and people finding out that Hacienda life was better than
shipboard life.
The ranchos were not settled by European mutineers but mainly by people coming from mainland Mexico. Those people came in search for gold and other
minerals.
And by the way... Living on a rancho is not like living on a hacienda.
Origins of Baja settlers
academicanarchist - 5-7-2004 at 06:07 AM
The vast majority of settlers in Baja California prior to 1800 came from two sources. The majority indeed came from the mainland, and particularly the
northern frontier. Many were soldiers, or people brought to the mines founded by Ocio, a former soldier. In 1769, Jose de Galvez gave out land grants
in the Cape region, and also hired people from the mainland to work the lands at Todos Santos mission. The term rancho is misused in this context. The
literal translation would be ranch, but the term really means a small or medium sized property that would not be an hacienda. Rancheros were not
ranchers, but the owners of small or medium sized properties.
Something tells me that Stephanie probably prefers it the way it is.
