BajaNomad - Quake activity in Asuncion area

Quake activity in Asuncion area

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Bajalero - 11-29-2006 at 08:22 AM

Finally showing up on the USGS monitor

4.8 registered about 6:30 AM this morning

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_...

jorgie - 11-29-2006 at 08:45 AM

well posted bajalero.....thats quite a formation shown offcoast

David K - 11-29-2006 at 08:56 AM

Finally!!

jorgie - 11-29-2006 at 09:17 AM

David , you noticed that it was in line with the fault strike. ??

Bajalero - 11-29-2006 at 09:20 AM

Well at least we all know that Shari is not entirely looney now right! :lol:

David , Thanks for posting the USGS webpage directly onto the thread. I tried ,but I'm not linking the address correctly or something.

The way all this very localized activity is described sure sounds like magma movement to me.

I find it odd that this hasn't shown up before as siesmic activity but now that it has, I wonder just how bad was the shaker this AM for the folks in Asuncion?

They're not posting yet.

lero

shaking

Stickers - 11-29-2006 at 09:33 AM

I heard from Shari yesterday and she said the town was shaking in localized areas. They had ground swaying in one area and a few hundred yards away hardly anything. These local quakes are not felt in neighboring towns. This seems quite different than our usual California quakes.

jorgie-----

Barry A. - 11-29-2006 at 09:45 AM

-----isn't that USGS quake site right on the line of the tectonic plates??---The western "plate" subsiding under the "eastern" plate???

If so, this could produce quakes with no related volcanic activity----right??? (it could also PRODUCE volcanic activity if there is fracturing of the crust, I believe.)

jorgie - 11-29-2006 at 09:55 AM

going back to the geo mapping, the 'cross' fault seems to intersect the plate action which is north/south. We will know more when the USGS determines the strike which seems to be east but could be a preemt of a north/south quake. The geo's I've talked to think the 4.8 should end it for 'now'. ?????

Bruce R Leech - 11-29-2006 at 11:09 AM

Magnitude 4.8 (Light)
Date-Time Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 14:34:02 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 7:34:02 AM
= local time at epicenter

Location 26.621°N, 114.136°W
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region OFFSHORE BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR, MEXICO
Distances 152 km (95 miles) S (179°) from Guerrero Negro, Baja California Sur, Mexico
195 km (121 miles) WSW (247°) from Santa Rosalia, Baja Calif. Sur, Mexico
200 km (124 miles) WSW (248°) from Santa Rosalía, Baja California Sur, Mexico
414 km (257 miles) SW (230°) from Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico
714 km (444 miles) SSE (156°) from Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 18 km (11.2 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters Nst= 52, Nph= 52, Dmin=995.3 km, Rmss=1.4 sec, Gp=227°,
M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=6
Source U.S. Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center
World Data Center for Seismology, Denver

Event ID usvrat

Bruce R Leech - 11-29-2006 at 11:11 AM

I think the local effect of the quakes could be due to the relatively shallow Depth 10 km or 6.2 miles

JESSE - 11-29-2006 at 03:06 PM

O.k. so for those of us that havent been able to read all the post's concerning this recent seismic activity. What is it? a volcano? fault? atlantis rising?

Bruce R Leech - 11-29-2006 at 03:15 PM

they don't know yet Jesse the experts just got there yesterday and they don't have all of there equipment. it seem they made a 5 minuet stop in Mulege and while the were eating there tacos some one lifted some of there gear

Stickers - 11-29-2006 at 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
. it seem they made a 5 minuet stop in Mulege and while the were eating there tacos some one lifted some of there gear

I sure hope that is a joke Bruce

jorgie - 11-29-2006 at 04:38 PM

so much for the geo's......second quake 16:15 hrs 4.5 mag......they are showing it atop the first

Bruce R Leech - 11-29-2006 at 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickers

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
. it seem they made a 5 minuet stop in Mulege and while the were eating there tacos some one lifted some of there gear

I sure hope that is a joke Bruce

that is not a joke :spingrin:

it was reported on the local radio station today. also of interest the radio is reporting on the situation with the earth quakes.

Stickers - 11-29-2006 at 06:44 PM

Well if the earthquake experts are such knuckleheads to have their equipment stolen while eating tacos, I would put much faith in their judgement on much else.

.

David K - 11-29-2006 at 06:51 PM

The town being evacuated today is sure not what those g-men first told the people of Asuncion, huh?

Since quakes happened days before the map showed anything... I am still wondering if what is happening under Asuncion different (volcanic) than the TWO quakes on the map many miles out to sea?

Crusoe - 11-29-2006 at 07:00 PM

They never had the equipment in Mulege. It was left on the side walk in La Paz because they forgot to load it at the last minuet because they had had to much puff puff before they left!!!!-----Robinson Crusoe :lol:

Stickers - 11-29-2006 at 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crusoe
They never had the equipment in Mulege. It was left on the side walk in La Paz because they forgot to load it at the last minuet because they had had to much puff puff before they left!!!!-----Robinson Crusoe :lol:

They might have been nervous heading out to a disaster in progress, cant blame em.

BTW aren't you on a deserted island?

longlegsinlapaz - 11-29-2006 at 07:24 PM

Crusoe: Is at least the part about leaving the equipment on the sidewalk in La Paz factual? Where did you get that information? Or is it merely creative writing from a fictional character??

Bajalero - 11-29-2006 at 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickers

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
. it seem they made a 5 minuet stop in Mulege and while the were eating there tacos some one lifted some of there gear

I sure hope that is a joke Bruce

that is not a joke :spingrin:

it was reported on the local radio station today. also of interest the radio is reporting on the situation with the earth quakes.

Bruce

Isn't it about time to get all the business owners in Mulege together and in solidarity demand of the vigilancia some serious head banging on the local dirt bags ??

Are there that many meth heads in town now?

lero

SiReNiTa - 11-29-2006 at 07:36 PM

do you know when the last quake was?? i´ve heard rumors it was bigger...

Bajalero - 11-29-2006 at 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiReNiTa
do you know when the last quake was?? i´ve heard rumors it was bigger...

Nita .

Measuring locally might give a bigger reading than the way they do it all the way from Colorado or wherever the heck they record these things. So maybe the rumor is true.

lero

Diver - 11-29-2006 at 07:52 PM

They report a 4.8 at 7:30 this morning and a 4.5 at 9:30 am. No reports on the websites since then. Have you heard from your mom today ?
Hoping all is well.

mtgoat666 - 11-29-2006 at 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickers
I heard from Shari yesterday and she said the town was shaking in localized areas. They had ground swaying in one area and a few hundred yards away hardly anything. These local quakes are not felt in neighboring towns. This seems quite different than our usual California quakes.

This chain of events is eerily like the start of most Godzilla movies.

Diver - 11-29-2006 at 07:56 PM

They also show a few smaller 2.7-2.8 quakes up to 1:30 this afternoon.

I saw that movie....

Sharksbaja - 11-29-2006 at 07:57 PM

TREMORS

Could that be it?
They "belched "didn't they?

-----

Really guys GET THE HECK OUTTA THERE!

[Edited on 11-30-2006 by Sharksbaja]

SiReNiTa - 11-29-2006 at 08:00 PM

i have...she called me this morning just before leaving...they have evacuated the whole town...she is fine but the houses have taken some hits...the road is cracked and well it seems like the tremors are getting biger...i wouldn´t rule out the posibility of a new volcanoe...i have to go home now because my aunt is calling me but i will post more tomorrow if i hear anything new...
love sirenita

Bruce R Leech - 11-29-2006 at 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
TREMORS

Could that be it?
They "belched "didn't they?

-----

Really guys GET THE HECK OUTTA THERE!

[Edited on 11-30-2006 by Sharksbaja]

weren't those the big worm things?

Iflyfish - 11-29-2006 at 11:01 PM

SiReNiTa

Thanks for the post. You are earning your credentials as Special Correspondent. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.

Iflyfish

Iflyfish - 11-29-2006 at 11:07 PM

This thing now getting noticed. Quakes in the 4.5 range reported and near surface

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=-114.09&lat...

Iflyfish

David K - 11-29-2006 at 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iflyfish
This thing now getting noticed. Quakes in the 4.5 range reported and near surface

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=-114.09&lat...

Iflyfish

Link: Iflyfish's link

Today's quakes in Baja:

29-NOV-2006 21:10:55 32.81 -115.98 4.0 0.1 CALIF.-BAJA CALIF. BORDER REGION
29-NOV-2006 16:15:12 26.70 -114.09 4.5 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
29-NOV-2006 14:34:02 26.62 -114.14 4.8 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA

[Edited on 11-30-2006 by David K]

Diver - 11-29-2006 at 11:45 PM

Maybe not so isolated ??? Plates are moving !

EL CENTRO, Calif.: A magnitude-4.0 earthquake and numerous smaller temblors shook part of southeastern California.

The 4.0 tremor occurred at 1:10 p.m. PST (2110 GMT) Wednesday and was centered 24 miles (39 kilometers) west of El Centro, which is near the border with Mexico, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

It was preceded by several smaller quakes including a 3.8 at 4:17 a.m. (1217 GMT). Smaller quakes also followed, including a 3.5 at 1:12 p.m. (2112 GMT), a 3.1 at 1:26 p.m. (2126 GMT) and a 3.8 at 2:15 p.m. (2215 GMT).

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iflyfish
This thing now getting noticed. Quakes in the 4.5 range reported and near surface

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=-114.09&lat...

Iflyfish

this link dose not work do you have another one? :?:

Diver - 11-30-2006 at 07:51 AM

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

Click on "last 30 days" for listings.

[Edited on 11-30-2006 by Diver]

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 08:13 AM

Last 2 Weeks of Earthquakes
(within 10 degrees of LON=-114.09, LAT=26.7)

DATE links are into the IRIS WILBER system where you can see seismograms and request datasets.

DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH REGION
29-NOV-2006 21:10:55 32.81 -115.98 4.0 0.1 CALIF.-BAJA CALIF. BORDER REGION
29-NOV-2006 16:15:12 26.70 -114.09 4.5 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
29-NOV-2006 14:34:02 26.62 -114.14 4.8 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
28-NOV-2006 04:06:40 35.63 -120.75 4.1 6.2 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA

the first E.Q.yesterday is very interesting as it is only .1 miles down. I have never seen one that shallow.

29-NOV-2006 21:10:55 32.81 -115.98 4.0 0.1

jerry - 11-30-2006 at 08:23 AM

dont worry the guys from LaPaz said nada problemo perfectly safe??
MY BURRO

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 08:50 AM

I would worry when there is a 4.o only 1000 feet down :no:

bajaandy - 11-30-2006 at 09:29 AM

Aside from the part about having Nomads, friends, loved ones and others in harms way, I have to admit that it's pretty darn cool to be hearing this stuff happening virtually first hand. A huge thanks to Sheri and sirenita for keeping us arm-chair geologists up to date on what's going on in the midst of being forced out of their very home. God's speed to you and your family in this time of trial.

Plate techtonics, fault zones, volcanic activity and the like all act as constant reminders that this big 'ol ball of junk we live on called earth is ever changing. How lucky we are to be getting first hand reports about this event. Let's hope and prey that the village of Asuncion and the surrounding areas suffer as little damage as possible.

Karyn Ivie - 11-30-2006 at 09:38 AM

Wouldn't 0.1 mile be only 520 feet?

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Karyn Ivie
Wouldn't 0.1 mile be only 520 feet?

you know I think you are right :light:

thanks Karyn

Optimistic

Stickers - 11-30-2006 at 09:41 AM

I have been forwarding the posts from Shari to Dr. Trombley and here are his latest thoughts on the shaking in Asuncion.

Hi Rick -

Thanks for the new e-mail. I am convinced now that the problem at Asuncion is earthquake related and not volcanic or necessarily venting as per your map and earthquake epicentres. But we'll see. Keep me posted. Have the scientists from the university in La Paz that you mentioned made any reports or statements ?

Respectfully,

SOUTHWEST VOLCANO RESEARCH CENTRE

"R.B."

R. B. Trombley, Ph.D.
Director & Principal Research Volcanologist

.

fdt - 11-30-2006 at 09:56 AM

This new report mentions that the towns people are saying it's the birth of 3 new volcanoes?
http://www.frontera.info/edicionenlinea/notas/Noticias/20061...

Found a picture

fdt - 11-30-2006 at 10:03 AM

Found a picture of Asuncion on a local La Paz newspaper

shari - 11-30-2006 at 03:31 PM

Hi everyone, we just snuck back into town to get some more wine to calm our nerves....ha! OK, 2 days ago was a big town meeting where the scientists (the top guy in the field from Mexico city is now here too) and a bunch of others with more equipment...anyway they said it a "hive" type deal that is 10 km under us...definately not volcanic that may or may not continue to give us quakes, but they didn't think there would be any bigger ones. They said ford the teachers and kids to go back to school....just not go IN the school or church...that we should try to live our life as normally as possible. So lots of folks returned to their homes only to be thrown out of bed at 7:32 in the morning with a pretty big one....BAM all at once, then coninuous tremors for the next hour and a half which was nerve racking...then about (:30 came the real ZINGER that cracked wall and houses, lifted tile and roads and the cliff by our house..our house took a beating on the cliff here, really cracked all over the place and the fridge did a merry little jig and stuff fell off the shelves and there was glass everywhere from broken stuff...really folks it was AWFUL scary...and then there were constant tremors afterward all morning...the army came an hour later and told us we had to evacuate to the airstrip...which is out in the open, super windy etc. They wanted everyone in one place. OK OK...we gave in and loaded up the trucks...the coop was giving 30 liters of gas to everyone, but all the stores were closed as the stuff fell off the shelves. they banned the sale of liquor and beer several days ago which has lots of the fishermen in a nasty mood. Thank goodness for all you folks who have left us bottles of wine that I was saving for a celebration...lots of friends showed up to help us celebrate and calm everyones nerves!! LThe phone was dead for a bit and I couldn't report in but didn't really want to be in the house anyway except to quickly throw stuff in a pack. Luckily we have our beach house in San Roque where you can't feel anything (only about 5 miles away! Finally we got some sleep but had awful volcano nightmares and kept thinking the house was shaking. Soooo, today over the VHF came another report and the scientists still say no problem...normal hive activity but they now say it is from the Tosca Abreojos fault out at sea and coming towards us here at the point??? So last meeting they said NO danger of Tsunami because they were land based quakes....so now what??? If it is in the sea should we be ready to head for the hills which there is one right behind San Roque??? It was crazy after the last big quake how the town emptied out soooo fast and everyone is too freaked to come back now. CRAP, there just went another one...it's been pretty quiet all day so if I sign off in a hurry it's cause the crap hit the fan again and I had to run...think I'll go now anyway....just wanted to keep you all posted...town is empty, everything is closed...people are scared...another small one...I'm outa here and back to San Roque then...try to post tomorrow again...love ;you all....shari

shari - 11-30-2006 at 03:35 PM

One more ;thing, I don't get it how yesterdays early morning quake could have registered smaller than the much bigger one later??? Also stickers, if RB wants to come, look for us in San Roque, we have a bed for him.(bring a carton of cerveza though! Since it's been so quiet today, we are bracing for a big one this afternoon, typically there are big ones around 4-5 in the afternoon, so I'll just be going back to San Roque now thanks...on the radio they said they felt yesterday's in Turtle Bay and Guerrero Negro slightly

DianaT - 11-30-2006 at 03:45 PM

Great to hear from you Shari. I don't know how anyone has any nerves left at all----I would be a total basket case.

Stay safe and I sure hope this all quits SOON.

Diane

daddypastor - 11-30-2006 at 04:23 PM

Are there displaced families still camping at the airstrip? We work with a pastor in Vizcaino that might be able to bring some food/water. Anyone have an update on that?

Thanks to Shari & daughter for their efforts in keeping us posted regarding our friends in Ascuncion.

Blessings...dp

mtgoat666 - 11-30-2006 at 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shari
...anyway they said it a "hive" type deal that is 10 km under us...definately not volcanic that may or may not continue to give us quakes, but they didn't think there would be any bigger ones.

Normal to have clustering of quakes (they almost always come in multiples), but seems odd to have so many quakes with sufficient magnitude to crack walls and roads.

Keep asking questions until they spill all of the info -- if you keep asking, sooner or later you'll get the details. Make them draw a map for you, and ask them to explain the orientation and location of active faults, and orientation of slip movement.

Good stuff, Bob H-----

Barry A. - 11-30-2006 at 05:42 PM

----the sea cliffs are pretty high at Asuncion, especially the west facing portion, but the south facing portion of the point is pretty exposed with the town only maybe 20 feet above sea level. Still, a decent size Tsusami could do lots of damage.

San Rogue (a truly tiny place) is somewhat more exposed, if I remember right.

Plate Tectonics (snap back) are what caused the Indonesian Tsunami, I believe, and the danger is very real. Still, you just never know what is coming next----maybe nothing----like the Mammoth Mt. area.

I am encouraged in that there are so many "stress reducing" quakes happening there-------reduces the chance of a truly "big one".

Oooooops-----where did Bob's post go???

Barry A. - 11-30-2006 at 05:43 PM

Bob H - 11-30-2006 at 05:47 PM

Here are a few links regarding the Tosco Abreojos fault...

http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/7/11...

and

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2005AM/finalprogram/abstract_95378...

and

http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/documents/abstracts/2005pa...

Bob H - 11-30-2006 at 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry A.
Opps where did Bob's post go?

I think I hit a wrong button somewhere... yikes.

Here's a re-post of it....

Could be concerns of multiple tsunami's - see article from March 2005 issuing warnings for the entire Canadian and U.S. West Coast (surely this could include Baja)... Bob H
---------------
Date: Monday, 7 March 2005, 11:38 p.m.

Stan Deyo Issues Warning !

March 7, 2005/ This evening on Steve Quayle's Q-Files Radio Program, Scientist Stan Deyo issued a Warning about a possible building Cascade Subduction Zone 9.0+ Earthquake that could produce not only a 9.0 Quake but also resulting multiple tsunamis' that could last 8 to 10 hours, washing back and forth, causing much destruction. Deyo reported that the Juan de Fuca Plate is starting to buckle and puts British Columbia at great risk; also threatening Washington, Oregon, California and basically the entire West Coast of US.

Deyo reported that he has never seen these type signals ever off the West Coast of US, but they're there now! Deyo believes that the other Scientists that should be warning are being muzzled by their governments to avoid panic. Steve Quayle stated he has reports that Russian Scientists are warning of a 10.0+ off the US West Coast. Deyo did report that this involves not only Seismic Quake activity but also volcanic at Mt. St. Helen's and under the ocean off Vancouver Island. This is a very serious Warning to the United States & Canadian West Coast area.

Included in the interview was reports that Scientists are rushing to the northwestern and Canadian area to investigate the current spike of events and danger signals. Deyo reported that local northwest advisories are
advising a Go-Bag with 72 hours provision and advise to flee the area if anything happens.

Stan & Holly Deyo Website:
<http://standeyo.com>

Steve Quayle Website:
<http://stevequayle.com>

I have tried to report this information as accurately as possible from my notes of the interview on Shortwave this evening. I will report any further information as I obtain the information.

Larry Taylor
------------
This report came from the following link...

http://www.greatdreams.com/oregon_volcano_earthquakes.htm

[Edited on 12-1-2006 by Bob H]

Iflyfish - 11-30-2006 at 06:08 PM

So good to hear from you Shari. Be safe!

Ifyfish

Bob H - 11-30-2006 at 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iflyfish
So good to hear from you Shari. Be safe!

Ifyfish

I'll "second" that! Hope to meet you all some day.
Bob H

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 06:22 PM

hay Bob some very interesting things there. thanks

do you have the frequency and time of Steve Quayle's Q-Files Radio Program on shortwave I have been trying to find it for some time?

Bob H - 11-30-2006 at 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
hay Bob some very interesting things there. thanks

do you have the frequency and time of Steve Quayle's Q-Files Radio Program on shortwave I have been trying to find it for some time?

Bruce, check out this link.... you can also listen to it online, I think.... 5 to 6pm PST

http://www.stevequayle.com/Q.Files/q.files.html

Bob H

[Edited on 12-1-2006 by Bob H]

Bruce R Leech - 11-30-2006 at 06:48 PM

thanks Bob

I can pick it up at Shortwave: 7.465 WWCR (as of Nov. 8) and 5.755 MHz when I am at the ranch or on the road. or telstar 5 or the Internet when I am home. that is a good website

[Edited on 12-1-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

FARASHA - 12-2-2006 at 09:36 AM

STILL nothing new from Shari?? Anybody heard whats going on in Asuncion?

Bajalero - 12-2-2006 at 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FARASHA
STILL nothing new from Shari?? Anybody heard whats going on in Asuncion?

Another quake reported yesterday (Fri.) around noon. Looks like this is the biggest one so far.

Interesting that from the map on the USGS site , it looks like they are indicating that the quakes from several days ago were closer to the Asuncion coast than first indicated, and the more recent quake is offshore .

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_...

Bruce R Leech - 12-2-2006 at 10:22 AM

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 4.7 (Light)
Date-Time Friday, December 1, 2006 at 19:33:08 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Friday, December 1, 2006 at 12:33:08 PM
= local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 26.689°N, 114.151°W
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region OFFSHORE BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR, MEXICO
Distances 145 km (90 miles) S (179°) from Guerrero Negro, Baja California Sur, Mexico
194 km (120 miles) WSW (249°) from Santa Rosalia, Baja Calif. Sur, Mexico
198 km (123 miles) WSW (250°) from Santa Rosalía, Baja California Sur, Mexico
410 km (255 miles) SW (230°) from Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico
706 km (439 miles) SSE (156°) from Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 10.8 km (6.7 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters Nst= 70, Nph= 70, Dmin=702.7 km, Rmss=1.36 sec, Gp=202°,
M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=6
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID usvtba

Taco de Baja - 12-2-2006 at 11:45 AM

Not a very siesmically active area, This alone should peak a scientist's intrest....
Quakes since 1990 Star in on most recent activity(Source) :

Seismic hazard green=low, red =high (Source ):

Bruce R Leech - 12-2-2006 at 12:07 PM

wow we sure are learning a lot here anyway. that is the good thing with this forum when something happens every one sits to digging up info and pretty soon we know more than we should :lol:

jerry - 12-2-2006 at 12:12 PM

the longer its been since your area has had a quake the closer you are to the next time

Here, learn this:

Sharksbaja - 12-2-2006 at 12:15 PM

Good presentation with good graphics. Requires big download:

http://rcl-cortez.wustl.edu/Presentations/Cortez_09Jan/09.00Fletcheretal/Fletcher_MARGINS_short.ppt

jorgie - 12-2-2006 at 02:02 PM

really good post Taco, 12-1-06, a 4.7 ?? that's three at 4.plus with 2 plus x at least two between the first two 4 pluses and the 4plus on 12-1-06 ??????

Bajaboy - 12-2-2006 at 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorgie
really good post Taco, 12-1-06, a 4.7 ?? that's three at 4.plus with 2 plus x at least two between the first two 4 pluses and the 4plus on 12-1-06 ??????

Is this a math question :?:

News from Earthquake Shari, Asuncion

Tiomiguel - 12-3-2006 at 11:34 AM

Hola everyone from Shari in Asuncion. I spoke to her Dec. 3, at about 11am and was able to get through to her phone just by luck. She and Juan are fine and sleeping in San Roque and coming into town each day for an hour or two in the morning. She asked me to post on her behalf to say as the power is out. She says thanks to everyone for their concern but they are fine, shaken and stirred a little.
There are incorrect news reports on the radio saying that everything is fine. Basically it is a ghost town as really nobody is living in town. There are about a hundred people living at the air strip but it is pretty miserable as Santa Anna is blowing today at about 30 knots. The fishermen are going out when the weather allows it because otherwise they have no income at all.
Shari's place has borne the worst of it all as it is on the point. They have loads of cracks in the wall everywhere. The rest of the houses and buildings in the town have a few cracks at the corners and in various places but no where near as bad as Shari's.
The rest of the townspeople will come back into town for a short time to check their houses, but basically the town is deserted except for the scientists, police and army. The quakes are continuing daily still and if a quiet day during the day they get a bigger one later on in the day. Sometimes people would move back in and think that is ok when another one hits and back out to the airstrip they go. Sirena is in Guerro Negro and Shari is in touch most days by phone when she gets into the house.
Hopefully everything will settle down soon.

shari - 12-3-2006 at 11:40 AM

Hi everyone...well, I'm just here in town for a quick shower, post this and its b ack to San Roque where life is a little calmer although reading these tsunami posts has me a little more worried there. We can only slightly feel the big quakes out in SR and the scientists told us there is virtually NO threat of tsunami at all...hmmm. Well, things are a little quieter here today, it seems this thing has a bit of a pattern. If it is a quiet afternoon and night then around 7:30-9:30 we can expect a good shaker...if it's calm in the morning then around 4-6 in the afternoon can be a real ripper...so I planned my trip for mid day today as there was nothing in the morning. Today is a severe santa anna wind that is strashing our palapa...around 45 knots right now. It's funny how this quake thing is reported on the La Paz radio station....they say things are getting back to normal here in town...HA! It's a ghost town...everything is closed...some stores open for a bit while the owners are in town, then a quake happens and everyone heads for the hills again...no school...no church...no BEER! Most people are with family in other towns and a couple hundred are camped out at ;the airstrip in the cold and wind. The government has come out with a couple of care packages of rice, beans, sugar, oil,coffee and animal crackers and we've been eating fish, mussels, clams etc. WE have all our animals out at San Roque now and are enjoying the calm out there...glad to have another home to live in. I sure am glad I had lots of food squirreled away as we've been feeding others too. The problem here is that after a day of relative calm some families come back to their houses only to experience another big quake so everybody is on edge, nervous and not really keen to go back to their homes yet. LOts of rumors and no real information has been offered but I guess the tv crews got here today. Seeing these posts about other areas having quakes too doesn't help calm me much either. Maybe it isn't so localized then??? For the time being I'm happy out in San Roque but we will keep a car loaded with survival gear to head up the hill if the tsunami comes. So I'm gonna sign off now....my last post was interupted by a rather nasty quake and I didn't get my shower so again thanks for your concern everyone and I'll post again in a couple days.

FARASHA - 12-3-2006 at 11:44 AM

GOSH - will the house be useable afterwards ?I think that it might be dangrous to just move in after all the shaking and the cracks in the walls??!!!!Would be scared that the whole house collapses over me while asleep!
I hope Shari is carefully evaluating this!
STAY safe and godspeed with you!!!

[Edited on 3-12-2006 by FARASHA]

Iflyfish - 12-3-2006 at 11:50 AM

Thank you so much for posting this. We have all been worried about these wonderful people.

Iflyfish

shari - 12-3-2006 at 11:51 AM

To clarify while the power is still on here...we have alot of cracks in the house but some houses are worse...adobe and lots of cracked cement roofs but my concern here is that the rock cliff we sit on is also visibly cracking so if by chance a bigger quake does happen, I don't really want to be in this house for it...some of the cliffs in town have had a bit of falling rock etc as well. Our house seems fine but the cracks get bigger and more appear after each big shake. these are interesting times for sure!

Iflyfish - 12-3-2006 at 11:54 AM

Thank goodness, good to hear from you. We have all been worried about you guys.

Abrazos Forte Amiga.

Iflyfish

Taco de Baja - 12-3-2006 at 11:55 AM

Shari,
Good to hear you are OK.
There is very little threat from a Tsunami, as the scientists told you. Most tsunami danger comes after the tsunami has built up after traveling a LONG distance over water, AND after a large quake. The quakes in Asunción area are very close to the coast, and so far have been small. The quake needed to generate a tsunami that would affect the local coast would more than likely destroy more than the tsunami ever would....HOWEVER, it is not likely that the fault that is causing the quakes would ever even produce a large quake anyway.

shari - 12-3-2006 at 12:01 PM

WHEW...thanks so much for that...that is what I figured but its good to hear it from someone else...I'm not so sure there won't be a bigger shake though...hope not

Bajagypsy - 12-3-2006 at 12:19 PM

Shari, we were so worried about you, I'm so happy to here that you are ok. Where are you staying? I truly hope that all is well with Juans family as well. Please try to keep us posted on how you are doing, I know it is not your number one priority at the moment, but we are worried about you. Take care honey, and stay safe!!!

Cypress - 12-3-2006 at 12:52 PM

Wild times in Asuncion! :yes:

Wishing all of you good luck. :yes:

shari - 12-3-2006 at 12:57 PM

Hey there, just back from my shower and sure enough when I was all soaped up...a lovely little tremor hit...rats...and just when you think it's safe...this one felt like it was further away...whew

FARASHA - 12-3-2006 at 01:08 PM

just thought about it - what if you are in the shower and you gotta run???Take care Shari!!

Bajagypsy - 12-3-2006 at 04:04 PM

Thank godness you have another place to go, and I'm so happy that you and Juan are safe at San Roque, if you have to be moved away from your home, that is a beautiful place to be.

Bruce R Leech - 12-3-2006 at 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by shari
Hey there, just back from my shower and sure enough when I was all soaped up...a lovely little tremor hit...rats...and just when you think it's safe...this one felt like it was further away...whew

if you watch the moves bad things always happen while you are in the shower. be safe and thanks for the update

DianaT - 12-3-2006 at 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech

Quote:

if you watch the moves bad things always happen while you are in the shower. be safe and thanks for the update

Oh No, it's Psycho all over again.

Seriously, it is good to hear that Shari and family are OK. I hope everyone's home will be able to be repaired.

Stay safe---we still want to visit paradise!

Diane

shari - 12-5-2006 at 05:16 PM

Hi everyone from shakerville....well, it seems as if the activity is subsiding for now...only a few small ones...naturally the last one was when I was in the shower again a ffew moments ago but they are just window rattlers not like the nasty ones last week so half the town has returned today to thier homes...but not many are very trusting that it wont shake again but most fishermen are back to work but lots of the wives are still with family in other places until they are certain it is safe again. I am kind of pleased we had to evacuate as we had a lovely holiday in San roque and I had time to do a much needed clean out of the cabin and fixed some stuff. Also the horse ride out there is so lovely, I can beach comb, whale watch, bird watch and I even found a coyote skull so I can make some earings out of his teeth! But we may move home tomorrow...(not sure I want to!) so talk to ya then.

Bajagypsy - 12-5-2006 at 05:33 PM

Shari,
Glad to hear that you are ok, and having a lovely time of your "holiday". Thank goodness you got rid of that junk

, you know you shouldn't have it there

.

Seriously, I'm so happy to hear that you are ok, and that your house is still standing. Take care and enjoy your beach combing!!!! :spingrin:

Sharksbaja - 12-5-2006 at 05:34 PM

Good, you're safe & things are returning to normal. Hopefully!

SiReNiTa - 12-5-2006 at 06:10 PM

hey everyone sorry to have not posted anything...i wasn't close to internet...i talked to mom a few days ago and she is fine...i'm hoping to hear from her tomorrow...thanks again toe veryone who has worried about us...it means alot to us...gotta run!!!!
love sirena

Iflyfish - 12-5-2006 at 06:45 PM

It is very good to hear from you and serenita too. Made my day. You are still on our minds.

I hope you will take your time returning home. This may not be over yet.

You are an inspiration to us all in how you are taking this in your stride. Turning lemons into lemonade. Good for you.

Keep us posted on how you are doing. We still very much want to come and see you soon.

Iflyfish

kellychapman - 12-5-2006 at 08:34 PM

and most of all it sounds like a safe place too have a SAFE shower....goodness that is important and leaves you very vulnerable should you have to run naked through the streets.
Your holiday sounded wonderful and shame on you (us) for not going more often if only for a few days. Hope all is well at home and by the grace of god may there not be something to have to put on the top of your "to do" list......keep us posted on what is going on.....my good amigo has property there and it seems to trouble him not really knowing what is going on.....your an inspiration.....damn you make good "limonada" ....your brave....GOD BLESS YOU AND EVERYONE REALLY!!!! I guess if your going to ask might as well ask for us all.....

More shaking going on

Bajalero - 12-6-2006 at 11:23 AM

Looks like another 4.5 but this time it's in the gulf.

Any one in the Santa Rosalia - Mulege area feel this one about 7:00 am this morning??

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/250_...

shari - 12-7-2006 at 01:38 PM

Hey there nomads, we're BAAAACK! Yesterday we came home but dagnabit if there weren't about 10 temors in the afternoon...one real jolter just after I unpacked my bags at the normal witching hour of 4:30 pm!! Whoooaa...luckily my pal Wendy came to my rescue with a bottle of good wine to calm my nerves. There were 2 more last night that shook some of the cruisers anchor chains too. But today there has been nothing yet....maybe the afternoon show will be good!! It's good to be home but I won't put the things back on the shelves yet and will keep the emergency car packed too just in case. Town has pretty much got back to normal now too but everyone is still on edge.

Iflyfish - 12-7-2006 at 01:47 PM

Thanks again Shari, keep us posted and be safe.

Iflyfish

FARASHA - 12-7-2006 at 02:54 PM

I'm glad SHARI that situation is at least not threatning, but understand that the ongoing tremors make you jumpy - would me too. Missed your posts, and information.
Great you are back!!
And how's Sirenita?

[Edited on 7-12-2006 by FARASHA]

SiReNiTa - 12-7-2006 at 06:54 PM

yay!!! i'm back also...i was working so that's why i didn't post...hehe well i'm glad mom could go back home and i can't wait for vacation to start next week so i can join her...all my friends are excited about the quakes hehe they all want to go to asuncion now...it just got about 1000000000000000 times more interesting...strange how people don't really give any attention to places or things or people until something happens to them...hmmmm...well i'll be posting on POSADAS NAVIDEÑAS pretty soon so...be on the look out...also our posada is tomorrow so i'll tell you how that went...should be interesting with 13 kids and one teacher hahaha bring out the bombs!!!! hehehe...Also i'll try to post a few pic's on my trip to veracruz today if i have time so those are kind of funny if you can check them out hehe...thank's again for your prayers and thoughts
Lot's o' Love to all
SiReNiTa!!!!

Iflyfish - 12-7-2006 at 08:15 PM

Welcome Home!!!!

We are all relieved that you are now back at home.

I can't wait to see your pictures. I hope you will tell us more about POSADAS Navidenas.

I have spent many Christmases in Mexico, more than in the USofA in fact. I have seen these wonderful things in front of peoples houses called Naciamentos, excuse my spelling. Are people there putting up Naciamentos? I hope I see some on this trip.

Iflyfisih

shari - 12-8-2006 at 04:02 PM

So it's Friday and after a very mellow day yesterday, only a couple small rumbles, I figured today might bring on the fireworks....and I was right...at 2:30 the show started with a pretty big one...I figure around 4.5 as our floor split and 4.5 seconds long...wake up call! then in the last half hour there have been constant tremors and one other pretty big one. good thing my pal Wendy left some tequila here so I can calm my nerves enough to write this. I'm sure the road is busy with cars leaving again. My sister in law got back the day before yesterday and that day there was a fair shake and she had to go to the hospital as her blood pressure went way up...the hospital was packed with nervous nellies. I hear some folks just arent coming back now that they're settled in with relatives. Hey, maybe there will be some good deals on houses!! Juan wants to pack up and stay in San roque as he feels there is going to be a humdinger one of these days...I sure hope he's wrong. I heard an interesting thing today from a friend of mine who is volunteering to check the seismic instruments...appartently there are an average of a hundred tremors a day here!!! Whoa nelly...that seems like alot...La Paz has about 400 recorded tremors a YEAR...and this equipment has only been installed for 11 days and has recorded around 800 tremors...Hmmmm. doesn't that seem a bit excessive??? It's all fine and well they are telling people not to panic, it's not dangerous, it's normal blah blah blah...but I understand these instruments only record the data on the tremors....they really don't know what the heck is really going on down under DO THEY??? Stickers, can you pass on this info and ask your buddy for his opinion??? People say it would be better for the gringos to bring their technical know how and better equipment....generally not too many are trusting the guys here and people are still pretty worried and can't relax....and after todays activity I can vouch for that. Seeing how extreme sports are so popular these days, perhaps there is a future in earthquake tourism???

Capt. George - 12-8-2006 at 04:21 PM

shari

you've been in Ascuncion a long time, no? Has this ever occured before now??

florida till may, then to Alaska, get to abreojos sept/oct?? stay through mid december...we will see you then if you're not too "shook up"!

warmest george y deborah

Shari------

Barry A. - 12-8-2006 at 04:29 PM

----Your sense of humor coupled with your courageousness is an inspiration to all of us, I am sure.

Please stay alert, and stay safe. The energy being displayed beneath your feet is awesome, as I am sure you realize. They (the scientists) need to get some equipment out there NOW that MEASURES any "bulgeing" in the surface topography-----I am still very concerned about rising magma.

Your posts are outstanding!!!!

Barry

shari - 12-8-2006 at 04:30 PM

That's the weird thing, this is NOT generally a seismic zone if you check the maps there are no little red dots here. I can understand if some small fault is moving a bit, they say it is moving laterally....but it has been 16 days now of non stop trembling. I hear there was one in the gulf a couple days ago too...could some of this activity be related?? The folks here would REALLY like to know just what the heck is going on and we aren't getting any answers....just that it's normal, nothing to fear...no problem...just go on with your daily activities....this shouldn't affect production...well I'm tellin ya...it does affect everything when your wife is crying and shaking with nerves, or your husband won't shower in the house, when people sleep in their cars etc. We want to pretend we're fine but I see the weary bedraggled look in the peoples eyes and can attest to the strange effect this has on you physically and psycologically on a daily basis. That's why many just haven't come home and don't plan to do so until a good amount of time has passed with no seismic activity...I myself am a brave sort but I've been reading up on earthquakes and boy oh boy they are nothing to frig with. I think it is interesting the public relations guy they sent is sooooo cool and funny and puts everyone at ease...he does daily chats and talks at the school and church etc. My husband thinks they are lulling us into a dangerous realm by saying that it won't get any bigger than it has been....how can they possibly know that??

shari - 12-8-2006 at 04:36 PM

Interesting you should say that Barry as that is what my husband says and he's rarely wrong about anything...rats....although the scientists say no way jose...it's just these plates moving laterally but it's soooo close to the surface and so local...and so continous....and so scary....It's weird how that energy comes up through your feet and goes straight to your heart and rattles around your solar plexus....heart chakra area creating a strange feeling like your heart will burst and of course causes goosebumps...but it's hard to relax all that and it stays tight and tense...but that energy is exciting and mind boggling and disorienting....lots of people comment they have discontrolo...which means like they are disoriented, dizzy and just sort of dazed...we don't know what day it is and cant concentrate either...all muy interesante.

Cincodemayo - 12-8-2006 at 04:46 PM

Isn't Mother Nature amazing. So is tectonic plate movement. I was in So. Cal for 3 major quakes and the power unleashed is awesome...Volcanic activity is another story. Any danger of pyroclastic flows at all in your area?
That's what I'd be more concerned about. Nasty gasses and molten hot rocks are very unforgiving. Stay safe.

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