BajaNomad - SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!

SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 06:19 PM

Why the Roosterfish you may ask? Why not the Roosterfish? Anyone who has walked along the shore of Baja may have seen the Roosterfish in action. Their dramatic display is a marvel of nature and very exciting to watch. It would be tragic if coastal developement polluted the enviornment in which the Roosterfish thrives.
The Roosterfish in all his glory is symbolic of everything that is right about Baja and the loss of even 1 Roosterfish to developement is symbolic of all the wonderous things we stand to lose if unchecked greed driven developement is allowed to proceed.
It's not to late if all lovers of natural Baja band together in an organised maner to protect and preserve what is left. It's possible that it could even be restored and enhanced.
Is it worth protecting? Ask a Roosterfish

[Edited on 12-7-2006 by fishbuck]

Roosterfish Fillet ?

MrBillM - 12-6-2006 at 06:26 PM

Are they good to eat ?

I'm in favor of saving all of the fish that don't taste good. Eat the rest.

jerry - 12-6-2006 at 06:30 PM

mr bill you just voted for the greenys

Frank - 12-6-2006 at 06:32 PM

Ill drive a 1000 miles just to fling a fly at that fish. Roosterfish was the reason I drove down Mex 1 in the first place. Save the Roosterfish!

Capt. George - 12-6-2006 at 06:33 PM

Fishbuck

I've been fishing since 1950 and what has had the most impact on all fisheries is, simply, the population explosion. Perhaps a nice nuclear war might stop expansion and developement of beachfronts. I see nothing else that will.

Roosterfish and cabrilla, and grouper, and mero, and dorado ,and jurel, and sand bass, and on and on and on....................................

are you willing to quit fishing in order to accomplish saving the whatever? Do you fish?

Do you realize what is going on throughout the rest of the "commercial fishing" WORLD?

Management can work but it is on rare occasions that it does. And it is usually only in the good old U.S. of A.

How do you stop coastal developement? Eliminate the entire population of baby boomers, no can do. They're coming and in droves and they all want what we've taken fro granted for a very long time.

I wish I had a real answer! Capt George

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 06:35 PM

I've never eaten one but I think they taste about as good as a skipjack or bonita.
Yeah, it's a little hard to drum up support for something tasty.
I think that was the plight of that big fish that's like a white seabass near SanFelipe.
Save The Tortuava?

Capt. George - 12-6-2006 at 06:47 PM

Roosterfish,

Jack Crevalle with a punk rock haircut........

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Capt. George
Fishbuck

I've been fishing since 1950 and what has had the most impact on all fisheries is, simply, the population explosion. Perhaps a nice nuclear war might stop expansion and developement of beachfronts. I see nothing else that will.

Roosterfish and cabrilla, and grouper, and mero, and dorado ,and jurel, and sand bass, and on and on and on....................................

are you willing to quit fishing in order to accomplish saving the whatever? Do you fish?

Do you realize what is going on throughout the rest of the "commercial fishing" WORLD?

Management can work but it is on rare occasions that it does. And it is usually only in the good old U.S. of A.

How do you stop coastal developement? Eliminate the entire population of baby boomers, no can do. They're coming and in droves and they all want what we've taken fro granted for a very long time.

I wish I had a real answer! Capt George

I don't have an answer either and in fact I am one of the dreaded "baby boomers" of which you speak.
I don't know if it's possible to "save Baja" but I know we save the whales and many other species in the good ole USofA. But I know it's worth a try and what do we have to lose by trying anyway.
If you look at organisations like Duck's Unlimited and others they've been very sucessful in securing habitat. I think people who fish just like those people who hunt ducks are the ones who appreciate these species the most . That's why the are willing to take action to protect and enhance the enviornments.
Am I willing to stop fishing? Hell no! But I'm willing to only catch 1 or 2 fish for my barbeque and call it a day. I do that in order to protect my favorite species... ME!

Hook - 12-6-2006 at 07:00 PM

I'll bet well over 90% of roosterfish caught on rod and reel are released.

If you wanna save the roosterfish, go after the inshore gill nets placed by the locals that take them and their prey. It will be much more effective.

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Hook
I'll bet well over 90% of roosterfish caught on rod and reel are released.

If you wanna save the roosterfish, go after the inshore gill nets placed by the locals that take them and their prey. It will be much more effective.

Okay now we're getting somewhere! How do we go after the inshore gill nets placed by the locals?

Santiago - 12-6-2006 at 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook
If you wanna save the roosterfish, go after the inshore gill nets placed by the locals that take them and their prey. It will be much more effective.

a-freaking-men!!

Bedman - 12-6-2006 at 07:18 PM

As told to me by an aquaintance during our October trip, Gill netters pulled up in front of our place in B. of L.A. and dropped their nets.....and then took off to parts unknown. Only to return 3 hours later, pull their nets and speed off across the bay to parts unknown again. Dumping the dead, unwanted by catch as they left. The bay is a Bio-Reserve. If they can do it there, they can do it anywhere.

Bedman

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
As told to me by an aquaintance during our October trip, Gill netters pulled up in front of our place in B. of L.A. and dropped their nets.....and then took off to parts unknown. Only to return 3 hours later, pull their nets and speed off across the bay to parts unknown again. Dumping the dead, unwanted by catch as they left. The bay is a Bio-Reserve. If they can do it there, they can do it anywhere.

Bedman

Those fishermen were obviously not members of the esteemed organisation SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH! How can this sort of wanton destruction be stopped? Inquiring Roosterfish want to know!

jerry - 12-6-2006 at 07:56 PM

easy to solve that problem just kick all the grengos out of baja waaalaaa problem solved and dont ever let them eat fish of any
kind again bi catch can allways happen so dont eat fish, dont catch fish dont drive down the roads or back country and poltut the air,either :bounce:

:bounce

r even look at the sea your breath is causing global warming :bounce:

fishbuck - 12-6-2006 at 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerry
easy to solve that problem just kick all the grengos out of baja waaalaaa problem solved and dont ever let them eat fish of any
kind again bi catch can allways happen so dont eat fish, dont catch fish dont drive down the roads or back country and poltut the air,either :bounce:

:bounce

r even look at the sea your breath is causing global warming :bounce:

Jerry is obviously a gillnetter!

SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!

jerry - 12-6-2006 at 08:14 PM

nope just a soso fisherman but im not proposing stopping someone elses livlyhood

Bajagypsy - 12-6-2006 at 08:37 PM

What do roosterfish look like, does anyone have a picture?

Roosterfish

Loretana - 12-6-2006 at 08:41 PM

As fare as table fare goes, they aren't very good.

But I'll never forget the first morning I hooked one while trolling inshore at San Bruno.

The sunlight on those cliffs was indescribable. :dudette:

Don Alley - 12-6-2006 at 09:20 PM

Roosterfish are caught on hook and line, in season, by people off the Loreto marina. They eat them too. Almost all of these fish are very young fish of maybe 10-12 inches long. I haven't eaten any, but neighbors eat them of any size, and say the small ones are best. They eat jacks too.

And many more fall to the gill nets.

If the gill netters aren't controlled, they will eventually put themselves out of business. But first they'll put sport pangeros out of business, as well as reduce revenues for hotels, restaurants, etc. But that's OK, they can always build more golf courses and strip clubs, maybe Mexico doesn't need the sport fishermen anymore. Sport boat captains can be waiters or golf caddies. :no:

jerry - 12-6-2006 at 09:29 PM

it all stems back to the gringos who like it there they are the push behind the buck and if we are honest and really want to help we would all go home but that isnt going to happen so we drum up a big speel like were going to save mexico from the mexicans??

roundtuit - 12-6-2006 at 09:31 PM

Save the steers that give us fillets, the pigs that give use tocion and the chickens that give us hueos and buffalo wings. Buffalo ???

fishbuck - 12-7-2006 at 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Bajagypsy
What do roosterfish look like, does anyone have a picture?

Here's a picture of a nice little Roosterfish. Click on this link.
http://www.mexfish.com/ecap/ecap/af000807/af000807.htm

[Edited on 12-7-2006 by fishbuck]

Capt. George - 12-7-2006 at 05:59 AM

you or I will not stop the Mexicanos from supporting their families in any way they can.

Until the Mexican people decides to implement laws RE: nets & wanton slaughter of "their" fish stocks, it will go on whether we like it or not.

I commercially fished for striped bass in the N/E to supplement my income as a NYC Firefighter. If the state of Mass had not institued a cut back and a good management plan (with strict enforcement) I would have casted at the last striped bass on earth.."If not me, the other guy will". Part of the problem.

Today? I fish for enough to eat, maybe some extra for the pensioneros in town, but I have enough income to afford that luxury....

Again, there will be no easy answer to this. Baby boomers? I do not dread them, I welcome them. I was never, nor am I now, a "Gotminer". All those that have worked towards their dream, whatever that is, deserve to pursue it.

Rock on roosterfish!

the captain

Cypress - 12-7-2006 at 06:08 AM

Empty nets and empty gas tanks=empty wallets.

The gill netters will pretty much do away with themselves. But first they'll just about wipe out the fish. This process took place in the coastal waters of the Northern Gulf of Mexico during the '70s. The govt. finally came down hard and the fisheries are recovering. There's more emphasis on sports and recreational fishing.

Bajagypsy - 12-7-2006 at 07:03 AM

That is a very nice looking fish, Iwill join the save the roosterfish movement :yes:

Osprey - 12-7-2006 at 07:20 AM

This little bay, Palmas Bay is advertised as the "Roosterfish Capital of the World" and for good reason. Flyfishers flock here because they are so thick at times along our shores. Gillnetting is an ongoing problem we face now and then with varying results but they plan to build a marina here and that will change the environment in the whole 20 mile stretch of beach in the bay. I'm a one-man alert/watchdog group here to ring some bells before they start the hotel/marina/home lot sales project right in front of my house sometime in July. I'm afraid they will build 1/2 a marina, part of a hotel, leave the place like Nopalo, minus lots of roosters.

Skeet/Loreto - 12-7-2006 at 02:51 PM

RiiseterFish are Great eating, prepared by taking out the "Black Strip", cooking with Garlic!

Oh! so many years ago off of Punta Colorado, brought in 3 55Lb. beauties and had them for Supper at Rancho Bueno Vista at a Family Table with Ray Cannon setting at the Head of the Table.

I would much rather see some of Save the RoosterFish Effort going to save our Children from the Drugs in the States!!!

Capt. George - 12-7-2006 at 02:54 PM

where ya been Mr. Skeet you ols rattlesnake?

D and I will be opening a B & B in Coffman Cove Alaska this coming year. No tarpon there my friend!

hope you and yours are well....

roooooosters!

Capt. George

AmoPescar - 12-7-2006 at 02:55 PM

HERE'S A LINK TO A PICTURE OF A ROOOSTERFISH

http://momentoffame.com/photopost/data/527/medium/050706_Rep...

I ALWAYS release my Roosters. Great fighting fish, but always heard they were not too good to eat.

AMO PESCAR (I love to fish)

[Edited on 12-7-2006 by AmoPescar]

cabobaja - 12-7-2006 at 03:06 PM

The Rooster is a prize, to catch and release...not to keep and eat. They are the best fighter's in the surf.

Here in Southern Baja, at first light, there is nothing better to get your day started by hooking a rooster and landing him. After I say good morning to Sr. Rooster, I give him a big "abrazo" thank him for the introduction and send him home. Hopefully, we will meet again!!!!!!!!