BajaNomad - boy was i cold....

boy was i cold....

Bob and Susan - 12-21-2006 at 07:39 PM

if you're planning on staying in ANY hotel on the pacific side that has electricty....

bring a small electric heater....it's COLD!!!

this morning it was 36 degrees at 5:30AM....BURR!!!!

i FORGOT mine this trip

where was susan when i NEEDED her!!!!

DENNIS - 12-21-2006 at 07:43 PM

36 degrees?
You're going to have to spend a little more for a room with a roof. Where were you?

Bruce R Leech - 12-21-2006 at 07:45 PM

yes where were you? :?:

DanO - 12-21-2006 at 08:09 PM

Looks like it's time for me to fire up the kerosene heaters and chop some wood for the fireplace. I'll be a happy little island of heat in a freezing world come Saturday night.

Bob and Susan - 12-22-2006 at 06:44 AM

i was at the villa margarite in camalu

about 20 rooms
very clean
$25 one bed

i wake up the guy most of the time at 11PM
this trip he was awake watching tv

4baja - 12-22-2006 at 07:05 AM

7 degree at my cabin in the sierras last wensday night.

Reeljob - 12-22-2006 at 08:26 AM

6 degrees just North of Durango this morning.

Cypress - 12-22-2006 at 09:25 AM

22 degrees with light snow 14 miles south of the US/Canada border.

Nice and warm about 6' from the wood heater. :yes:

Merry Christmas! :yes:

abreojos - 12-22-2006 at 09:53 AM

Low 50's here in Cabo. Was at a pooside party last night and we need to light a fire and bundle up. Tried to put on a pair of long pants on for the first time in a year and none of them fit! Looks like loosing weight is at the top of the New Years resolution list!

akbear - 12-22-2006 at 09:57 AM

This morning here in Fairbanks -18. We've had 8" of snow all year. Not enought to fire up snow blower !

Merry Xmas to all from the Frozen Northland.

akbear

David K - 12-22-2006 at 09:58 AM

Merry Christmas akbear.... long time no hear! :tumble:

Question

capitolkat - 12-22-2006 at 10:26 AM

Now this raises a question-- we are designing our house in La Paz and the contractor, several architects, and friends all say we need no heating system. 50 degrees in Cabo makes me think something else. Why are so many trying to keep me from having something to keep us warm in the cooler winter weather- note I didn't say cold- but 50 is sweater weather. thanks

Lee - 12-22-2006 at 10:57 AM

5' snow wind drifts West of Boulder Rocky Mountains USA. About 10 degrees with crystal clear nights. Thousand or so still stranded at Denver airport.

:cool:

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 12:11 PM

I had 46 here this morning . I don't think it has ever been this cold this early in Mulege. usually we see a day or two like this in Jan. but not in Dec.

Bob and Susan - 12-22-2006 at 12:14 PM

i had 62 degrees in mulege

bruce are you sure you didn't fall asleep in the fridge? :tumble:

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 12:38 PM

no it is 65 in the shade right now at 12.30 pm where and when were you?

Cypress - 12-22-2006 at 02:20 PM

Cold? :lol:

Cold is being on the water in a blizzard with zero visibility. :spingrin:

Cold is also being in the high country during wintertime. :spingrin:

Cold is having a rope freeze as soon as you bring it onboard. :tumble:

I'm heading south. :spingrin:

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 02:23 PM

be careful Cypress and get down here If you are in salt water and that is happening it is way to cold.

Cypress - 12-22-2006 at 02:40 PM

Thanks Bruce. Gonna shake your hand one of these days. :spingrin:

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 02:48 PM

I would like that very much, I hope it is soon.

Cincodemayo - 12-22-2006 at 03:32 PM

Bruce...it's global cooling. Al Gore was all wrong.

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 04:31 PM

when was he ever right?

comitan - 12-22-2006 at 06:43 PM

Larry

You know someone that lives in La Paz now that has a heater and Fireplace.

wiley

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 06:51 PM

I know a few

fdt - 12-22-2006 at 06:52 PM

It's like saying you don't need a pool in La Paz, but it sure is nice to have sometimes.

fdt - 12-22-2006 at 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cincodemayo
Bruce...it's global cooling. Al Gore was all wrong.

Watch the day after tomorrow, when Mexicali becomes the capital of the US

woody with a view - 12-22-2006 at 07:38 PM

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And if you are on the Pacific side...well, that's just downright frigid!

that's 22% of the attraction! :cool:

Bob and Susan - 12-22-2006 at 07:52 PM

masicast = 22%woody

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 08:06 PM

Oooooooooooh oooooooooooh Wiley there on to you better put it out before Al Gore shows up

Bruce R Leech - 12-22-2006 at 08:33 PM

:lol:

Larry that reminds me of a time when I did the same thing. and drove to Denver in January. I almost froze to death when I got caught in a Blizzard.

Now I am getting ready to go to Ensenada next week with a bypassed heater again it is going to be cold and I hope I can get it fixed there. :?:

Bajagypsy - 12-23-2006 at 03:26 PM

Canadian's know how to keep warm, why do you think my husband and I have four kids??!!??

Bob and Susan - 12-23-2006 at 03:54 PM

i've had lot of heater cores redone because the cars are not made anymore...

the core is just like a radiator...

just have the radiator shop cut out the old core and replace it with a new core...then braze the hose tubes on...

i've found the most common problem is the heater valve...that's something that just NEEDS to be replaced

Paula - 12-23-2006 at 04:45 PM

We don't have heat in our house in Loreto, and I don't know anyone who does. I have noticed that some houses are warmer than ours, I think because they are planned to take advantage of the sun. If we were going to build again, I would face the house so that the sun shines on a deep colored saltillo floor for as much of the day as possible to be warm all day and cool at night. Next time we design a house we'll use a real architect, and not yours truly :dudette:

Bob and Susan - 12-23-2006 at 04:47 PM

what about september....HOT!!!

Paula - 12-23-2006 at 04:51 PM

Well, there's always the old tin foil on the windows. And it makes people wonder what you're up to inside! :spingrin:

edited for clarity. No change in this important message.

[Edited on 12-24-2006 by Paula]

longlegsinlapaz - 12-23-2006 at 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capitolkat
Now this raises a question-- we are designing our house in La Paz and the contractor, several architects, and friends all say we need no heating system. 50 degrees in Cabo makes me think something else. Why are so many trying to keep me from having something to keep us warm in the cooler winter weather- note I didn't say cold- but 50 is sweater weather. thanks

Uhhhhhh....because THEY don't have to live in the casa, YOU do! Also, central heating or cooling systems as we know them in the states aren't done in the majority of construction done locally. And if it were, I could pretty much guarantee that the ducts would be OUTSIDE the walls! :lol:

It depends on the type of construction method used. I know someone with a well-constructed place with foam block walls & they swear the inside temps don't vary from 70-72 year round.

My first casa in La Paz didn't have any type of heat source whatsoever....I regretted that decision!! Second casa had two wood-burning fireplaces, one in the MBR & one in the living room; fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, I didn't need to use either of them in the two years I was in that casa. Casa #3 (LAST) is in the works now & it will have a wood-burning fireplace!! I'm in a typical local construction rental now & when the thermometer in the kitchen was closer to 40 than 50 a few days ago, I went out on an extensive search for a small space heater....they are damn hard to find here! There are 2 left in Plomybanos on 16th September! By the time I FOUND one, I didn't care about the price...$395 pesos. Unfortunately, this 3-bdrm rental only has two interior doors....bano & one bdrm.....NOT the bdrm I opted to use of course!!! I'd have moved a door to the bdrm I'm using, but this IS Mexico & the door is a totally different size than the opening of the room I'm using! :lol:

Owner came by this AM for rent....told him he could have the rent as long as I could get a door to help hold heat in the bdrm!!

Larry, you obviously forgot knowing me, huh??

It only made it up to 60 inside today, which is a tad too chilly for my finners & toes....and I'm originally an Oregon/Washington gal!!!

capitolkat, DON'T BELIEVE those people!!! You DO NEED; as opposed to it'd be a nice "luxury" to have; a heat source besides the sun!! Several days of 50 degrees inside gets to be more than sweater weather!! :bounce:

(Edited price....hate to have anyone think I'm THAT cheap!) :lol:

[Edited on 12-24-2006 by longlegsinlapaz]

longlegsinlapaz - 12-23-2006 at 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

capitolkat, DON'T BELIEVE those people!!! You DO NEED; as opposed to it'd be a nice "luxury" to have; a heat source besides the sun!!

Maybe. I have a number of friends in New Mexico (6000 feet, snow country) who have no heat other than solar, and are plenty warm all winter. Building a thermally-effective home-- both for cooling and heating considerations-- should be a piece of cake down here in Baja Sur where winter is mild and sun is almost a sure thing. Yet almost nobody is doing it. Wonder why...

What boggles me even more, is that these thousands of new lower-income housing boxes that are going up for sale to folks who can not afford high power bills, look like simple concrete ovens with NO apparent consideration for thermal efficiency. Another tragic example of "lo barato sale caro".

--Larry

OOPS!!! I was just referring to the plain old sun in that statement, not construction engineered to solar heating!!

If the Mexican people would stop buying those little cookie-cutter ovens, maybe the Gov & builders would start thinking about making them more energy efficient! But they buy what they can afford & what's available!! I did see ONE foam-block test casa in a subsidized housing development...how they expect to determine efficacy with ONE test casa is beyond me, but it does tell me that someone is at least thinking about the subject! Foam block construction is a little more costly to build, but the savings in electricity for heating & cooling begins immediately!

shari - 12-24-2006 at 07:30 AM

YEp, got a little chilly all right...we went to Loreto and I brought shorts thinking it would be hot...it was freezing and I wore my fleecies and a hat for 2 days. Here in asuncion it is warmer because the water is 72 degrees, still nice for swimming. But we had a nasty santa anna type wind on Saturday morning for a few hours but warmed up real nice in the afternoon.

Bob and Susan - 12-24-2006 at 08:22 AM

nice here on the bay in Mulege today...
64 degrees at 6AM

lots of wind yesterday 12-23
No wind today....YET :wow:

Thanks Friends

capitolkat - 12-26-2006 at 06:23 AM

After the comments here it appears to be a lot smarter to put some kind of heat source in the house. One comment was that after being in Baja Sur for year 76 was cool and 50 was ski jacket weather. For that reason it's a lot easier to design a house with a heat source than add it later. Lencho-- thanks but I understand what to do with a sweater. Norm