Hard water problems in the Ejido PNA

Very cold and windy last night. Everybody looked like they were going skiing.
This morning I awoke to find that the water in the dogs bucket was hard. I could set my coffee cup on top of the water and it didn't sink.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this before? My 74 year old neighbor said he thought it was ice but it didn't look like that stuff that comes in my margaritas.
What should I do? Will the water turn to liquid again? If everybody in San Felipe bought a global warming credit do you think we could go back to wearing shorts sand t-shirts.
burro bob

it's an illusion.....

It was below freezing here in Oceanside, San Diego County Coastal area last night/ this morning!

The air was crystal clear... stars were beautiful... but too cold to stay out for more than a minute!

GO CHARGERS!

babies, nuttin' but babies

Ejido PNA? Where be that?

Cold All Over

Quote:

Originally posted by Cypress Ejido PNA? Where be that?

Ejido Plan Nacional Agrario is the ejido in Valle Chico (the valley east of the Sierra San Pedro Martir, southwest of San Felipe. On the Baja Almanac, the nearly abandoned village outside of Agua Caliente canyon has that name... The auto club (and my map) shows it as Agua Caliente.

Thanks for the information David K. and bajalou. Imagine this abnormal cold weather is gonna zap some vegetation down that way.

Was 54 degrees at 6:30 a.m. today herein EDR LVS.
Ice on the pond, well on my birdbath anyway!:

We also have never seen it this cold here in lsst 10 years.
BRRRRRRR!!!!
The SUN is MUCH appreciated these days!!!!

EDR LVS ?

I can guess EDR is El Dorado Ranch, and LVS must be the subdivision Las (Something) South, but why the code?

David it's Los Viejeros South. I'm bajalou's neighbor.
Did not mean to confuse peoole I'm just used to adding that to much of my mail.

BTW, I stand corrected (bajalou just called me on radio lol) It was 54 degrees IN MY HOUSE this A.M> Much colder outside! Under my Palapa thermometer said 40 degrees at that time!

Borrego Springs 25 degrees??? Wow---

Thanks Bob... great... and the water for the golf course comes from where? Oh, well... we can get there via the salt flat road from Percebu or Santa Maria if necessary...

Did the village outside of Agua Caliente Canyon have a name? Is it 'Agua Caliente' as the AAA map shows?

In the late 70's and early 80's there was quite an active population there... people, kids, weather station, airport (dirt strip)... So, since then it has been 'abandoned' or empty each time I drove through except for one family in the house on the corner of the road south to Matomi & the road up to the hot springs canyon.

Hey, what's with the spelling of Cajon (Cahon?) in your post!?

Thanks for the input on Valle Chico!

You guys really know how to ruin my day, huh?

MrOstrichDooop

sheeeez

"In Paris, where the report by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was released, scientists and top officials called for new talks toward an agreement among all nations to cut emissions. In Washington, lawmakers called the report the "scientific smoking gun" that puts to rest the debate over whether warming is a danger to civilization.

Even the Bush administration embraced the report's findings, which were based on the work of hundreds of U.S. scientists. "

hmmmmm geee lemme think. Should I take scientist panel or some oakie from muskokie seriously re climate change?? hmmm tough decision. NOT
imbiciles (sp) everywhere!

ahoy?

what???

Correction...

It was NEWSWEEK, April 28, 1975:





"The Cooling World" - by Peter Gwynne

April 28, 1975 Newsweek


There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now.

The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.


The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.





To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average.

Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies. “The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.


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Did you read this, specially the last paragraph? "...They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers..."

1975 wasn't that long ago... I was in High School!

Just relax about this... Every 30 years these fund hungry 'scientists' will get the weak minded all rilled up with a new world disaster prediction and public money will get channeled their way.

If one volcano's eruption produces more ozone depleting gasses than man has in the past 100 years, why are you worried? There are volcanic eruptions every year!

The earth is mightier than us... have some faith!

hahaha

1975 ???

Yah, that was back in the dark ages, huh?

Remember, we walked on the moon in 1969... Or was that just pure luck because science and computers aren't good like in 2007???

Don't fall for every lib crisis... they just want your money and for you to not be smart enough to get along without them running things (gets them votes). Trust in your instincts and God given abilities... Remember you are a natural part of the planet earth as much as zebra or redwood!

Man makes mistakes and fixes them, too. We should mind our impact on nature, balancing 'leave as is' with change. I dislike all kinds of 'progress', but progress happens... if not here then somewhere else.

Conservative means to keep the good things going as they are, only change what isn't good... Conserve resources to ones needs... Live long and happy!

Why Baja? I love the outdoors, camping, hiking, four wheeling, the sea, the desert... all of which is in Baja California!

You have a great day, as well!