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New Tundra priciest gas truck of all

Hook - 1-28-2007 at 01:52 PM

Toyota prices Tundra above rival pickups
By John O'Dell, Times Staff Writer
January 25, 2007

Toyota Motor Corp., banking on its reputation for quality and high resale values, is pricing its redesigned full-size 2007 Tundra pickup trucks $1,000 or more above most competitors.

Although some analysts see the step as potentially dangerous at a time the pickup market is softening, Toyota justifies the pricing it announced Wednesday as an effort to "accurately price according to the value of the vehicle," said Denise Morrissey, a spokeswoman for Toyota's Torrance-based U.S. sales unit.

She also hinted that Toyota, although loath to use rebates and other price-reducing measures, could add some type of incentive if necessary to help meet its goal of selling 200,000 of the trucks this year, a 61% increase from 2006 sales.

"Buyers in this market have come to expect incentives, so we are considering some," Morrissey said.

Chrysler Group's Dodge Ram pickups, the only models in the class with list prices close to Toyota's, carried $5,000 cash rebates last month, and the popular Ford Motor Co. F-150 was being sold with a $3,000 rebate.

The new Tundras, which are scheduled to start hitting dealer showrooms next month, will start at $22,290. They will top out, before optional equipment is added, at $41,850 for a four-door crew cab model with four-wheel drive and the optional 381-horsepower V-8 engine.

That's considerably higher than General Motors Corp.'s competing 2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500-Series pickups, the only other all-new design in the market.

GM's prices range from $18,760 for a basic model to $38,990 for a four-wheel-drive crew cab model, according to Edmunds.com, an online automotive information service.

The GM trucks do not have cash incentives but are available with below-market interest rates to qualified buyers.

Dodge's 2007 Ram pickups range from $22,170 to $41,410 before incentives.

Ford starts the basic F-150 pickup at $19,200 and tops it out, before options and incentives, at $40,280.

"Toyota's starting prices could make it challenging to sell the 200,000 they want to sell this year," said Jesse Toprak, chief analyst at Santa Monica-based Edmunds.com.

Sales of full-size pickups fell almost 10% last year to 2.2 million as gasoline prices rose, compelling many customers to switch to more fuel-efficient vehicles, and construction activity fell, slowing a key part of the truck market.

But Toyota has a lot of loyalists in the U.S., and "most pickup shoppers have decided what brand they want before they start looking for a truck, so the higher prices might not hurt" the company's truck sales this year, Toprak said.

Hook - 1-28-2007 at 01:54 PM

BTW, Tundra owners, you should be receiving notice of a major recall of many 05-06 models for problems in the front steering or suspension.

Tomas Tierra - 1-28-2007 at 03:01 PM

I read yesterday that in 2006 Ford LOST over $1600 on each new vehicle delivered.....makes the rebate thing seem kinda silly..

The recall service (possible scratched lower ball joint-replaced)was performed on my '02 Tundra without drama, I got a much needed alignment due to the recall. I believe this is the same recall as on the newer ones.

Capt. George - 1-28-2007 at 03:21 PM

still a "make-believe" truck...ain't that right W?

TMW - 1-29-2007 at 08:30 AM

18-in. styled steel wheels with P255/70R18 tires
18-in. alloy wheels with P275/65R18 tires
20-in. alloy wheels with P275/55R20 tires

Interesting choice of tires sizes.

Tomas Tierra - 1-29-2007 at 08:34 AM

who will be the first to "pimp" the back roads of baja with "20's"??

BajaWarrior - 1-29-2007 at 09:50 PM

Seems like a lot of money for a "mini truck"!:spingrin:

My Baja travel truck: F-350 4wd crew cab long bed, will haul or tow anything safely!

[Edited on 1-30-2007 by BajaWarrior]

[Edited on 1-30-2007 by BajaWarrior]

Capt. George - 1-30-2007 at 03:42 AM

Whistler, I forgot. you do have that big grey thing...maybe you can use the Nissan to pull that grey one out of trouble??

And if all else fails I'll come and save you with my real truck...

hasta amigo

AmoPescar - 1-30-2007 at 03:58 AM

BAJAWARRIOR...

The new Toyota Tundra is a FULL SIZE pick-up. At least according to the press!

Here's a link to a story and some pics....

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_chicago/0603_to...

Pretty good looking for a Toyota!

Amo :D

Bob and Susan - 1-30-2007 at 06:38 AM

is this true???

i just heard tundras are partially assembled in baja...

they shuddle them across the border somewhere from tecate to otay....

if so...it's a true baja truck

TMW - 1-30-2007 at 08:12 AM

The new Tundra is assembled at their new plant in San Antonio, TX. The other Tundra plant is in Indiana near the KY line. The new 5.7 V8 is built in Alabama. The Tacoma is assembled in Baja and the U.S. I'd have to look at the paper work but I think my new 07 Tacoma was assembled in CA. 65% US parts, 25% Japanese parts, and 10% probably Mexican parts.

Capt. George - 1-30-2007 at 08:55 AM

what is the frame and suspension like on these new "full size" Tundras.

Can it fly 5 feet through the air, land on rocks and dirt at approx. 40 mph, perform the heimlich to save a persons life??? and then drive 3600 miles back to Florida...

my F-350 can, and did..................yeah Ford.

Crusoe - 1-30-2007 at 11:25 AM

I second that George......YEAH FORD!!

Capt. George - 1-30-2007 at 11:47 AM

true story above, was choking on a hard boiled egg...Deborah got control as best she could...finally just slammed the gear shift from drive to park...I was OUT/down for the count, finished, done etc (sorry to disappoint you Whistler)........through me into the wheel and dislodged the (deviled) egg.
(Sorry could not help myself there)

through all that & the 350 brought us home...yeehah

she's in the body shop now getting prettied up to look like my buddy GK's truck....................

Ford trucks ARE tough.....

Hook - 1-30-2007 at 01:58 PM

....but, statistically, not nearly as reliable.

I own a 2000 7.3l and it's been pretty reliable but I have made some modifications. I opened up the air intake and the exhaust, put an external tranny filter on and use only synthetic tranny fluid. Also using a programmer. Also replaced some internal stuff in the fuel tank, put a secondary fuel filter before the rail mounted fuel pump, too. Replaced the funky fuel line connectors with ones that seal well.

I do have a VERY SLOW leak from some axle seal at the front differential. 4WD, you see.

The water pump did go at about 110k but thats to be expected with the FW-15/16 additive that was necessary in the coolant. Now, there are other methods that avoid that stuff and still prevent cavitation.

I hear the 6.0L models are no bueno. Ford has redesigned their diesels for '08, I believe. New diesel engine.

But you wont find me pulling anything over 5k with a rice burner.

Capt. George - 1-30-2007 at 02:51 PM

satisfy the Yuppies! quiet and fast diesels, DUH!

what are they thinking?

Minnow - 1-30-2007 at 06:52 PM

George, I can hear you thumping your chest all the way here, in Vegas.:lol:

The best Diesel is made by Dodge. 20 mpg, and will tow anything.:lol:

They don't call them Found on road dead for nothing.:lol:

Hook - 1-30-2007 at 09:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Minnow

The best Diesel is made by Dodge. 20 mpg, and will tow anything.:lol:


No, the best diesel is made by Cummins. It's the rest of the truck that gives us pause.

Minnow, is your Dodge a 4wd? What size tires? Whats the rear axle ratio? Reg cab, xtd cab, quad cab? Long bed, short bed?

Capt. George - 1-31-2007 at 04:02 AM

GK will you take me for a ride in your Dodge? I promise to wear a tie!

maybe even a tutu? would fit right in with that "girlie" truck.

when you gonna be in Ojos? el Vikingo (or is that, el Vee-stink-o?)

Minnow - 1-31-2007 at 09:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whistler
Hook,I am not Minnow but I own a Dodge diesel.
20041/2,1 ton,quad cab,4x4,long bed.6 speed manual tranny,4:10 gears.
35-12.50-17 Toyo Rough Country M/T's. Kore/T/Rex suspension(Bilstein 7100 reservoir shocks)track bar and steering damper. Bully Dog downloader(90 rwhp),Transfer Flow fuel tank(56 gal.) Snug Top shell.


No wonder you don't get good milage.:lol: Sounds like a b-tchen rig though.

I have two 4x4's, neither is a dodge cumins.:no:

A ford bronco full sized, and a Toyota.

Both have full coverage from the Pizza insurance co.:lol:

The locals sure do drool over my Toyota though.

Hook - 1-31-2007 at 09:56 AM

Ah, the mythical 20mpg, Dodge Diesel continues to be just that...........except for maybe a 2wd, short bed, 3.55 RAR, heading down I-70 from Denver to KC with a front moving through the Rockies.

I suppose one may exist out there..............

Capt. George - 1-31-2007 at 03:08 PM

had a friend got 22 miles a gal with the cummins, problem was, he pushed it half the time....come on now W how much do you miss me?

Tundra doublecab 4wd limited

BAJACAT - 1-31-2007 at 03:11 PM

According to truck trend this truck,gives you 14 m/g in city and 18 m/g on freeway.0-60 in 6.0 seconds, all this from the new 5.7L engine putting out 381 horsepower @5600 rpm's
more than my 5.7 hemmi with 345. horsepower..price as tested est $40,000..ouch:no:

landrover65 - 1-31-2007 at 10:56 PM

1997 Dodge Diesel 12 valve, 4x4, club cab, 5 spd., 3:42 gears, Mechanical fuel pump. Least amount of electronics.
21-22 mpg at 70mph with shell (summer fuel and before low sulpher - haven't had a good chance to check it since new fuel)
16-17 mpg with 9.5 ft Bigfoot Camper at 65 mph @ 10,200 lbs.
18 mpg with same rig at 55 mph.
Only significant problem is with 5spd. Nut holding OD gear backed off. Got dealer fix to get home and then went with aftermarket shaft from Quad4x4.com for permanent fix (hopefully).

Capt. George - 2-1-2007 at 04:23 AM

wow, and nobody was pushing you? hear that GK

George who, indeed.

Hook - 2-5-2007 at 04:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by landrover65
1997 Dodge Diesel 12 valve, 4x4, club cab, 5 spd., 3:42 gears, Mechanical fuel pump. Least amount of electronics.
21-22 mpg at 70mph with shell (summer fuel and before low sulpher - haven't had a good chance to check it since new fuel)
16-17 mpg with 9.5 ft Bigfoot Camper at 65 mph @ 10,200 lbs.
18 mpg with same rig at 55 mph.
Only significant problem is with 5spd. Nut holding OD gear backed off. Got dealer fix to get home and then went with aftermarket shaft from Quad4x4.com for permanent fix (hopefully).


That's impressive!

Was that the last year of the boxy design before they went with the more rounded fenders and hood?

My buddy with the '06 Tundra got the call from the dealer today.

The way they put on the message machine was that they ".....have a SPECIAL service to peform on his ball joint."

What a nice pseudonym for a recall. :lol:

[Edited on 2-5-2007 by Hook]

TMW - 2-11-2007 at 11:11 AM

I went to the RV/Boat show at the fairgrounds yesterday and the local Toyota dealer had several new Tundas on display. There weren't any crewmax cabs but several double cabs. Looks like they copied some things from Dodge. The hood and grille are one and lift up exposing the front of the radiator and all else. The rear side doors open forward as a crew cab does, does not require the front doors to be open. Lots of front leg room. The tail gate has a hydralic assists actuator for easy up and down. The bed is deaper like a Ford. Uses the composite bed like the Tacoma.

Hook - 2-11-2007 at 12:24 PM

Composite bed, huh...........so I believe that eliminates any possibility of it's use for a 5th wheel.

What's the longest bed length you can get in a quad cab configuration? I'll bet no 8 foot bed option.