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San Felipe 250

burro bob - 2-10-2007 at 10:11 AM

This just in.
There will be a San Felipe 250 this year. It will be held south of San Felipe and will not use any land or road that is controlled by The Ejido Plan National Agrario.
I have not seen a map of the course yet just the description I gave above.
burro bob


[Edited on 2-10-2007 by burro bob]

TMW - 2-10-2007 at 10:24 AM

Someone on Race-Dezert showed a map from the 2001 SF250 that was south of town, 208 miles total.

bajalou - 2-10-2007 at 10:36 AM

That map from 2001 looks like it goes thru Ejido Plan National Agririo lands to me.

Gadget - 2-11-2007 at 01:20 PM

SCORE site shows course map still under construction and TWs huge SCORE press release post announces start in usual location.
IMO Ejido owners have either gotten in Sals pocket as TT possibly predicted or the pressure of lost tax and merchant revenue has gotten the Gov to back down on the University land issue.
The show will go on with the usual drama.

bajalou - 2-11-2007 at 01:26 PM

A member of the Ejido board told me that the problem is with Ensenada Tourist bureau that distributes land use money, not Score itself. They believe Score pays the money but it doesn't get to them. This was before the University land problems came to a head.

burro bob - 2-12-2007 at 02:05 PM

Martin just talked to the Chamber of Commerce here in San Felipe and was told that the course will be the same as it was in 2001. Groupo Cajon and Groupo Matomi have agreed to the use of land they control for the race. It's gonna be the San Felipe 208.8
burro bob

Gadget - 2-21-2007 at 12:10 PM

The course map post by Surfer Jim I think shows that Sal wouldn't deal with the Owners north of town. Won't hurt the racers any but cuts off alot of the traditional spector areas. Those washes all hide way more big gotcha rocks after the big rains year before last. Carnage will be big for those who don't pre-run.

baja829 - 2-21-2007 at 12:41 PM

Por Favor -- slow down as chase vehicles and friends travel the Puertecitos road South, which parallels the race course. LOTS OF UNFORGIVING DIPS ON THIS PAVED, and excellent ROAD!!!

Ejido Delicias has a Poblado at KM 35.5 -
Clinica San Pablo - 2 Doctors (on West side of road, next to Chelo's Restaurant (they have some gas & diesel, ice, food to go, etc.)
(on the West side of road)
Marina's and Isabel's Restaurants are in the Poblado -
2 food stands; hardware store, tire shop (taller) on East side of the road; a new dry campground "OVERNIGHT CAMPING"; and 2 grocery stores.

They all look forward to the Race and your business!

Ejido Delicias = Good Eating!

David K - 2-21-2007 at 01:54 PM

Chelo's:





Good dinner!:






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Marina's:



Good breakfast!:

Hook - 2-21-2007 at 02:01 PM

Any suggestions on good SF 250 viewing/camping locations in the GENERAL vicinity of Bahia Santa Maria. I realize the route doesnt go out there, but we wanted to stay near there in anticipation of meeting some friends. What about inside Azufre/ Parral?

In a cabover camper with 4wd.....

David K - 2-21-2007 at 02:06 PM

Good jumps in the sulfur mine valley and very near where the Bahia Santa Maria road meets the old Puertecitos road...

BajaWarrior - 2-21-2007 at 06:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Good jumps in the sulfur mine valley and very near where the Bahia Santa Maria road meets the old Puertecitos road...


That's where we will be, great action at that spot. 4 miles from my Beach House.

David K - 2-22-2007 at 12:35 AM

In looking at the map again, it is coming much closer to Bahia Santa Maria! In fact, using half of the distance of the BSM entrance road between the old Puertecitos road and Hwy. 5! It is coming north from almost La Roca's road on Hwy. 5 and then northwest on the old La Roca entrance road, crossing the old Nuevo Mazatlan entrance road and then joining the old Bahia Santa Maria road for 2 miles back to the old Puertecitos road, on the northbound leg!

Copy of 2007 SF 250-rr.JPG - 48kB

baja829 - 2-22-2007 at 09:36 AM

Thanks for the great photos of Chelo's and Marina's, especially the food -- now I'm hungry!!!!

DEVEAU - 2-22-2007 at 01:17 PM

We are arriving in San Felipe Wednesday 3/7/07 with a 24' motorhome and 18' enclosed trailer. As of now we plan to stay in the overflow at Pete's.

But I would like to find something a little less crowed. Do need showers/bathrooms. Six guys are too much for the holding tanks. We will have a chase truck to get back and forth from town. Anybody have a reccomendation?

The DirtDogs are # 312X and # 407X , say hi if you see us!

Paulina - 2-22-2007 at 01:48 PM

Where's the Google Earth link to the course?

Thanks,
P.<*)))><

The map------

Barry A. - 2-22-2007 at 02:45 PM

-----this is really not race related, but what I find fasinating is that there are apparently two more east/west ways into the Valle Chico from the east than I was aware of.

Azufre (Parral) canyon I WAS aware of, and in fact have been thru, and camped in there, twice.

But I was totally unaware that you could drive thru the Sierra San Felipe via "Huatamote" wash, and now another "pass" (?) called "Chanate" just south of Huatamote???.

This alone is an excuse to make it down there to do some more exploring. I have long suspected that one could make it thru Huatamote, but this "Chanate" is totally new to me.

I assume that most of the San Felipe crowd knew of these vehicle tracks??

Hook - 2-22-2007 at 02:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DEVEAU
We are arriving in San Felipe Wednesday 3/7/07 with a 24' motorhome and 18' enclosed trailer. As of now we plan to stay in the overflow at Pete's.

But I would like to find something a little less crowed. Do need showers/bathrooms. Six guys are too much for the holding tanks. We will have a chase truck to get back and forth from town. Anybody have a reccomendation?

The DirtDogs are # 312X and # 407X , say hi if you see us!


i would imagine EVERYTHING will be crowded anywhere near town. Pete's doesnt have a shower/head complex?

bajalou - 2-22-2007 at 02:59 PM

Barry A.

Indeed you can travel thru the Sierra San Felipe thru both the Chanote and Huatamote. But be aware - all Mexican maps have the Chanote to the north and the Huatamote to the south - reversed from what Score calls them - so if you talk to people in San Felipe you gotta make sure they understand which one you're talking about.

Thanks Lou.

Barry A. - 2-22-2007 at 03:06 PM

DEVEAU - 2-22-2007 at 03:22 PM

http://stuck-throttle.com/ge/07SF250bySTF.kmz

This should be the google earth course, click play and it takes you around the course.

TMW - 2-22-2007 at 04:08 PM

Chanate wash on the map has a pretty neat sand hill that the racers will go down this year but in years past it was in the other direction and you went up it. At the bottom there are some pretty good whoops. A few years ago we were chasing Mike Doherty's class 8 truck. He broke an axle just south of Morelia jct. He ran the rest of the course as a one wheel drive truck and made it to where Matomi wash meets the hwy where a car in front of him was stuck and he tried to go around and got stuck and timed out of the race. I had always wondered how he made it thru the whoops and up that sand hill. He must have been hauling butt. We did air down the BFG project tires to about 5 or 6 lbs and they still looked full.

David K - 2-22-2007 at 07:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DEVEAU
http://stuck-throttle.com/ge/07SF250bySTF.kmz

This should be the google earth course, click play and it takes you around the course.


Thanks DEVEAU!

However, when you zoom in close, the blue lines don't match with the dirt roads exactly (La Roca to sulfur mine, at least).

Anyway, Campo Nuevo Mazatlan is where Arvada George takes his m/c group each year... I have been going there since 1966 or so.

Flush toilets and (non-heated) showers in a tree shaded campground next to a big sand beach... $20/ night... a bit steep, but it is clean and quiet... At Km. 32.

Here's a web page I made for Nuevo Mazatlan: http://vivabaja.com/nm

Here's my last time camping there (Aug., '06): http://vivabaja.com/806




[Edited on 2-23-2007 by David K]

TMW - 2-23-2007 at 07:19 PM

Mike Childress has entered the race on bike 16X. He the guy to beat. Still haven't seen Hengeveld (sp) or Campbell. Maybe Steve will be racing with Bell on 1X if he races. You prerun guys did see the SCORE notice about prerunning. The two northern washes will not be marked this weekend as they are still in negociations. The bottom half to the finish is OK