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concrete block v. steel frame v. alternative

bajadock - 2-16-2007 at 09:10 PM

Getting closer to dirt-digging for my new home south of Ensenada. Thought I was going to follow the masses with concrete block, but...

I'm finding a few more who have turned to steel frame home building in favor of the added insulation. Also getting more adventurous with consideration of adobe or straw-bale construction.

Experiences on all re: mat'l/labor costs, "what I'd change now that I've done it this way" info and all else welcome, thanks.

I'm in Ensenada, so apologies to BCS types, as my cooling needs easily met by Pacifico's and Modelo's. Happy to share this "technology" any time!

DENNIS - 2-16-2007 at 09:28 PM

If you're in the La Jolla neighborhood, go to the west side and see Mike Allinghams steel frame house under construction. You can learn a lot there.

bajaguy - 2-16-2007 at 09:29 PM

I'm sure that if you sponsor a BBQ and invite all Nomads, you could build it out of empty pacifico bottles...........even if you don't have a BBQ, I'll contribute!!!:lol::lol::lol:

DENNIS - 2-16-2007 at 09:32 PM

Good idea BG, and I volunteer to empty a bunch of his Pacifico bottles in the effort.

bajaguy - 2-16-2007 at 09:34 PM

On a more serious note (darn!!!), have you considered the styrofoam type of block construction. Fill with concrete, then stucco over it???

bajadock - 2-16-2007 at 09:44 PM

Thanks Dennis, just introduced to Mike today, as he shared lots of positive info, more to discover. I am a new La Jolla-ite and learning daily.

BG, your cool ones are waiting, as promised. Could have built a large resort from my discards by now.

HEY THERE BAJADOCK...

AmoPescar - 2-17-2007 at 12:03 AM

Maybe bajaguy has a good idea. Here's a couple of pics of houses built using bottles. If the party is good enough, you could have all your materials ready to go and on hand!!! I'll be there to do my part!

Amo :saint:

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Originally posted by bajaguy
I'm sure that if you sponsor a BBQ and invite all Nomads, you could build it out of empty pacifico bottles...........even if you don't have a BBQ, I'll contribute!!!:lol::lol::lol:





SORRY

bajaguy - 2-17-2007 at 09:18 AM

Doc:....sorry that I started this....Hope you get some "meaningful" replies..........although at the time, I thought it was a good idea!!!:lol::lol::lol:

vgabndo - 2-17-2007 at 11:40 AM

Doc...you might research RASTRABLOCK, they are made in Mexico, and quite expensive up north. Maybe you could do better buying them in Mexico. They are the most modern version of the concrete block that I know of. Very green product made of cement reinforced with recycled styro, and, if I recall correctly, industrial furnace byproducts. Two guys can handle a block about 12" x 15" x 5-7 feet. You can cut and fit them with a hand saw. They are initially "glued" together with caulking, then the vert and horiz cells are grouted full for a very strout self-insulating structure.

Because the blocks are an unconventional size, I've seen them used unfinished on an interior wall, and they were not aesthetically displeasing.

hdn2mx - 2-26-2007 at 08:35 PM

check out this web site.....www.tridipanel.com
try and GOOGLE it....
Hadrian Tridipanel Systems
Not much cheaper...but it goes up quickly
You need to spend some time on the web-site.....
You'll see some homes are on the East Cape, by Cabo...
2 Homes are being built by me right now.....
40 miles north of Cabo on the Pacific side... Todos Santos area........ RT

bajalou - 2-26-2007 at 08:56 PM

Lots of houses in San Felipe of the Rastra Block construction. Owners that I know are happy with them.

bajadock - 2-27-2007 at 09:13 AM

Thanks all. ICF(insulated concrete forms) like Rastra/Tridi aren't common here(Ensenada), but, I am communicating with USA mfrs/distributors.

Much of my warming needs will be met by a bank of windows in a south-facing wall, extended above height of south roof. I'm admittedly not a tree-hugger, but, pragmatic re: consuming less is my preferred lifestyle.

bajabound2005 - 2-27-2007 at 10:36 AM

bajadock -- did you check out Janika's tire house???? and she's building a windbreak from empty wine bottles!