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BFG MUD terrain

Tomas Tierra - 2-18-2007 at 04:34 PM

Anybody using these tires for everyday use?(and Baja use of course)

Wondering how loud they are on the highway and if they last as long as the BFG all terrain t/a.

Also just general recomendation good or bad..

Thanx Nomads

Mike Supino - 2-18-2007 at 04:39 PM

Baja T/A's

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/overview/baja-t-a/19.html

Bajaboy - 2-18-2007 at 04:42 PM

Had them on my last Toyota and loved them for Baja and never had a flat. On the road, they were loud but I got used to them. My father has also run BFG muds on his Jeep for years. He been all ove Baja, Moab, Rubicon, etc.

Zac

Thomas T.------

Barry A. - 2-18-2007 at 04:46 PM

My son has had them on his Toyota FJ-40 for several years. He loves them, but they ARE noisy with that aggresive tread. They are tough, but if you are not doing a lot of "rock climbing" I would stick with the TA's.

We don't think they will ware as well as the TA, but time will tell. I use TA's exclusively and love them----------practically no noise, moderate tread that works well, and long wearing. I got 46K on the last set of TA's on my old ' 89 Isuzu Trooper.

I also have them (TA's) on my F-250-----the big one's-----285's.

Axel - 2-18-2007 at 04:54 PM

Tomas,
My experience with mudders was that they wore out much faster. I didn't have them long enough to compare them to an all terrain because I didn't like the noise and sold them ASAP, but they were wearing out rather quickly.

Lee - 2-18-2007 at 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Tomas Tierra
Anybody using these tires for everyday use?(and Baja use of course)

Wondering how loud they are on the highway and if they last as long as the BFG all terrain t/a.

Also just general recomendation good or bad..

Thanx Nomads


I had the AT on a Toy. Loud, stiff and I'm not going that route again. Depends how much need you have for Mud vs. AT's.

:cool:

DonBaja - 2-18-2007 at 06:08 PM

I ran them on my 96 Bronco and got 75k miles with no problems, just rotate them everytime you get your oil changed. I changed to the All Terrains because they work better in the soft dirt and sand, and they aren't as loud on the road

Bajalero - 2-18-2007 at 06:20 PM

The mud terrains are loud , but if you need the traction and have a good stereo they're the way to go.

If you'll be doing any hauling of heavy loads - campers etc. - stay away from them

Tomas Tierra - 2-18-2007 at 07:13 PM

I had a shot at a barely used set of 305's with pacer rims for $800, but I suspect they took them off due to noise.I priced the tires at $249 ea. new so it seemed like a good deal.I was thinking of storing them and putting them on for Baja runs, pain in the a$$.
I will stick with the old standby All Terrains for around the same $800.

Thanx for the feedback Nomads! Info I can trust!

Bajagypsy - 2-18-2007 at 09:53 PM

I run 32" BFG Muds on our Toyota FJ60 year round, for a mud tire they have great snow traction, great mud clearing ability and yes a little noisy on the highway, but you get used to it. (its not unbearable).
Seem to be getting good milage out of them for a mud tire (about 40 - 50 thousand miles before there shot).
The biggest thing I like about them though is the price. They are fairly cheap compaired to other mud tires out there, and I have never had a flat. Rocks etc. dont seem to bother these things. Previously I had Goodyear mtr's and they wore right out, got cut to ribbons on gravel roads and were way more expensive.

Pappy Jon - 2-19-2007 at 10:10 AM

I have them on the 4Runner and like them when I play off-road, including Baja. For everyday use I have a set of AT's, but will run the MT/KM full time when the ATs wear out.

Another option is the Goodyear MT/R. I ran those on my xcab and loved them. They didn't seem as noisy.

Frank - 2-19-2007 at 05:00 PM

Im running the Toyo MT's on my F350, 26K miles so far so good.

Hook - 2-19-2007 at 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Frank
Im running the Toyo MT's on my F350, 26K miles so far so good.


Frank, Whistler, tell me more about these Toyos. What size and load rating are you running?

I'm due on my F350. I will end up getting 50k (probably 80% with a 2500# Lance on the back) on the Michelin LTX-MS 8 plys. They are quiet, too. They are also now 200.00 per at Costco.

Dont need aggressive offroad tread but do like a M/S rating.

Axel - 2-19-2007 at 09:29 PM

Hook,
You might want to check out http://discounttiredirect.com for pricing. When I bought my tires they were $50 a tire cheaper and no tax, also no shipping charges to my door. Don't confuse it with discounttire.com totally different.

Frank - 2-19-2007 at 10:51 PM

Hook,

Im running a 35x12.50x18 E rated tire. 18" rims were not my choice, bigger brakes on the 2006 make it necessary. Mine were in the neighborhood of $350/tire.

At the time it was the only option for a 18" E rated tire for my truck.

Hook - 2-19-2007 at 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Axel
Hook,
You might want to check out http://discounttiredirect.com for pricing. When I bought my tires they were $50 a tire cheaper and no tax, also no shipping charges to my door. Don't confuse it with discounttire.com totally different.


Thanks for the tip, Axel.

The prices seem good, depending on what I can get them installed for. They have a link to installers and the entire list is America's Tire and Discount Tire so I dont think this site is totally different. But it's unclear whether it's going to run 19.99/tire or 19.99 for four, installed. Will call tomorrow. If its 19.00 total, it looks like I could save about 23.00 tire over Costco on the Michelins............... and why would I switch? They wear like iron, almost every review is glowing on them.

David K - 2-19-2007 at 11:55 PM

Check out American made COOPER DISCOVERER STT... I have had them for 28,000 miles so far... No flats and wearing very little! But noisey... BajaTaco uses them too.

rts551 - 2-20-2007 at 06:37 AM

David

I put Cooper ATR's (different tire) on my truck and have been very disappointed. Chunking very bad on the dirt roads.. had to have one replaced after only 10K. Do the STT's show any sign of cuts or chunking.

Hook - 2-20-2007 at 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Check out American made COOPER DISCOVERER STT... I have had them for 28,000 miles so far... No flats and wearing very little! But noisey... BajaTaco uses them too.


David,

I've read three testimonials from Taco owners who ran the Michelin LTX/MS's for OVER 120,000 on a 4wd unit. Amazing.

Something to think about next time around.......

Hook - 2-20-2007 at 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by Frank
Hook,

Im running a 35x12.50x18 E rated tire. 18" rims were not my choice, bigger brakes on the 2006 make it necessary. Mine were in the neighborhood of $350/tire.


EEEYYYOOUZZZAAAA Frank! I will not feel bad about paying 200/per for the Michelins.

Ken Cooke - 2-20-2007 at 11:31 PM

I ran them for about 2 months, but I could not handle the rough ride and noise level. After blowing a sidewall, I went back to the Interco TrXus MT. These tires ride like an All-Terrain, but grip the rocks and dirt like a Mud-Terrain. The sidewalls are sturdier than the BFGoodrich sidewall, and they cost less $$.

David K - 2-21-2007 at 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by rts551
David

I put Cooper ATR's (different tire) on my truck and have been very disappointed. Chunking very bad on the dirt roads.. had to have one replaced after only 10K. Do the STT's show any sign of cuts or chunking.


No, I would never suggest a tire that had such a failure to you guys.

The Cooper Discoverer STT are very strong with a superior sidewall to BFG (from what they say)... I have had no flats or strange wear.

As I reported hear last June, they do require more air out to float on sand, 10 psi... compared to 15-20 psi on BFG Rugged Trail TAs... Perhaps due to the strong sidewall.

They do have a high noise level, not terrible as I have heard on some trucks, but louder than I like... They work awesome in the mud, however! Laguna Salada wet center and through the swamp to Shell Island (New Moon) without a problem!

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