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Somebody probably knows . . .

bajalera - 5-27-2007 at 01:30 PM

what this building material is.

But it's going to take some work to fit the Paraisodescription--that the houses are being designed with traditional Mexican architecture detailing, and will feature beautiful stucco and hand-made Mexican clay tile roofs.

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Bajabus - 5-27-2007 at 01:36 PM

Recycled toxic omlette bags?

Al G - 5-27-2007 at 01:36 PM

A guess Maybe???
Fiberglass reinforced foam panels and will maybe have fiberglass stranded stucco on top???:?::?::?::biggrin:

fdt - 5-27-2007 at 05:50 PM

That would be the awful house :lol::lol:

[Edited on 5-28-2007 by fdt]

Ken Bondy - 5-27-2007 at 05:56 PM

Not sure from the photo but it may be some type of Insulated Concrete Form (ICF). bajalera did you notice if there was concrete inside of the wall space? Or if there was a space between the two outer surfaces of the wall?. This is a type of wall construction that is becoming very popular in US residential construction, particularly in very hot and very cold areas. But I have never seen the color or the texture shown in your photo in any ICF installation. I see the word "structural" on the wall surface, but I don't recognize the "W" or any of the other words.

comitan - 5-27-2007 at 06:02 PM

In BCS its used a lot called Panel W, its stuck up then plastered both sides, then becomes an insulated wall.

DENNIS - 5-27-2007 at 06:04 PM

I agree with Al G. Foam panels to be cement covered to give them strength. You can see the cables on the right side, keeping it from collapsing.

DENNIS - 5-27-2007 at 06:07 PM

Comitan -----

Is that a wire mesh grid on the outside to hold the stucco?

Ken Bondy - 5-27-2007 at 06:16 PM

Is it a solid panel or is there a space between two outer surfaces? If it is solid do you know what is the material? Is it like a styrofoam? I saved lera's photo and zoomed in on the walls, it does look like a solid (foam) panel with a grid of welded wire fabric (mesh) on the outside to reinforce the plaster. Not a bad idea, I wonder how the engineers handle seismic loading.

[Edited on 5-28-2007 by Ken Bondy]

DENNIS - 5-27-2007 at 06:31 PM

I first saw this building method in Ensenada around twenty years ago. It's fast construction but dont know about cost.

comitan - 5-27-2007 at 06:56 PM

Yes there is a wire mesh that holds the plaster and gives it strength, And normally it is not doubled with air space in between, but have one house here built that way with the plumbing inside the walls this house is very well insulated.

Ken Bondy - 5-27-2007 at 06:56 PM

DENNIS do you know what kind of floor system is used? I assume it is concrete, but if so, how do they make the connection to the foam walls?

DENNIS - 5-27-2007 at 07:04 PM

I don't know, Ken. They did have concrete slabs but I didn't pay any attention to how they fastened the walls.

Ken Bondy - 5-27-2007 at 07:10 PM

Thanks DENNIS. They probably make the connection by cutting intermittent blockouts (slotted holes) through the wall, threading slab reinforcement through the holes. Interesting system, I would like to know more about it. ++Ken++

DENNIS - 5-27-2007 at 07:25 PM

What I think I remember is a two sided, steel channel, like an H, that went between the foam panels to join them. It was all wired together. Perhaps they used a variation of the channel to fasten the wall panels to the floor.
What I do remember, because I had to drill through one was that the wall plaster was thick. About 3/4 inch. Im surprised cracking wasn't considered but the lite panels needed strength.

AmoPescar - 5-28-2007 at 01:06 AM

GIANT GRAHAM CRACKERS!!!:rolleyes:

Giant Graham Crackers are baked and assembled using the same method as Gingerbread houses. The white frosting roof helps to keep it cool in the summer. very subject to bug problems though!!

Miguelamo :saint: :yes: :spingrin:

Sharksbaja - 5-28-2007 at 02:11 AM

Triscuits



[Edited on 5-28-2007 by Sharksbaja]

MoFish - 5-28-2007 at 04:49 PM

I sure hope the big bad wolf doesn't come

Peloncito - 5-28-2007 at 09:30 PM

As "Comitan" stated, they are reinforced foam building panels. They are used quite a lot in the United States for commercial tilt-up buildings. As an architect in Northern California, I do not get to use them much because of our seismic zone (4). The wire mesh on the wall faces is actually a vertical WWF (welded wire fabric) which does give the wall strength in tension and bending. Depending on the thickness of the plaster/stucco which is applied to the wall faces, that will determine how much weight (ie: conc. ceiling or floor) the walls can handle in a vertical load. As others have mentioned, the foam offers an insulated shell which is nice. But, drilling these walls to hang curtain rods, towel bars and the like is seriously limited by how thick the plaster is on the wall. You can easily drill right through and end up in the foam core which is essentially useless for anchorage. The final weight of the walls when finished can hold up to some hurricane force winds (depending on category) but is not nearly as wind worthy as CMU. The cost of these prefabricated walls has skyrocketed in the last year or so because of their speed of construction, insulation factor and ability to shape. I personally still prefer concrete block with a great A/C unit to cool. The WWF offers reinforcement but way below that of #4 or#5 rebar set inside the horizontal block joints and vertical cores of CMU. Let's not forget, the Baja peninsula has a direct relation to the tail end of the San Andreas fault!

wilderone - 5-29-2007 at 09:54 AM

Legos?

bajalera - 5-29-2007 at 11:16 AM

Ken - We didn't invade the territory marked No Trespassing [in both Spanish and English] to get a close look, so I can't answer your questions.

Thanks, you all, for expanding my knowledge of construction materials--I'm checking on e-bay in hope of finding a company that sells Giant Graham Crackers .