BajaNomad - Marriage Paperwork

Marriage Paperwork

bajabass - 5-30-2007 at 12:19 PM

I have been in love with Baja since my first trip down surfing in 1973. I now rent a house in the ejido in La Mision and have leased a lot to build my house on in the same ejido. next step!! I am getting married to a wonderful lady doctor from Ensenada in August. I am a little confused by the paper work needed though. I have obtained a birth certificate, and had a passport for years. They also want either divorce records, or a document of some type stating no existing marriage. Do any Nomads have an idea what that would be, or where to obtain one? I also need to have this info all translated into spanish. The fees seem ridiculous, we have been quoted over $700.00 for this task!! At least mi doctora can handle the blood test!! Ah, when this is over I get two weeks of driving to Cabo , and spending a week at my timeshare at Pueblo Bonita Rose. Any Nomad guidance through this process would be great!! :?:

cabobaja - 5-30-2007 at 12:32 PM

bajabass,

Have no idea how you would get such a document stating no existing marriage. I married my Mexican wife in the US and then registered the marriage in Tecate. It's the same as being married in Mexico.

Maybe another Nomad has an answer.

Buena Suerte y Felicidades!!

DENNIS - 5-30-2007 at 12:44 PM

Why don't you divorce your future wife and if things don't work out, It's all painless history. Just grab your divorce papers and leave.

Bajaboy - 5-30-2007 at 02:14 PM

I got married in Baja and didn't have to prove that I was not married already. And we definately didn't have to pay $700. We had the civil ceremony at the judges office in Cabo and our party ceremony on the beach at Elias Calles.

Zac

Al G - 5-30-2007 at 02:21 PM

I don't want to find the paper...I want to find the woman...
:lol:

Certificates R US

bajaguy - 5-30-2007 at 02:23 PM

get a good computer with a color printer and some tan or buff parchment paper.....type up your own official "non-marriage certificate".....go to a stationary store or a school supply store and buy several gold seals with different colored ribbons and slap them on the "certificate", sign it, and have a notary stamp it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for translation services contact Aida Topte Ochoa on 6th street in Ensenada....she has ads in the Gringo Gazette.

If that doesn't work, maybe I can marry you....I am a (retired) Captain....all we need is a boat!!!

[Edited on 5-30-2007 by bajaguy]

bajamigo - 5-30-2007 at 03:57 PM

Sounds like a Dr. Laura moment. Can't figure what possible document would exist to prove you were never married. And take Bajaguy's advice about Aida --- she's great. But don't marry him: he ugly!

DENNIS - 5-30-2007 at 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy

If that doesn't work, maybe I can marry you....I am a (retired) Captain....all we need is a boat!!!

[Edited on 5-30-2007 by bajaguy]

Oh Oh......Sounds like a proposal. Break out the Pacifico.

Wingnut - 5-30-2007 at 04:15 PM

I'd go for the ceremony in Cabo, you can get married like any other tourist and not have to worry about a non existant non marriage certificate. I like Bajaguy's idea though, you could even do the certificate! Now comes the real question, where's the reception and how much beer is on hand! Good luck.....

DENNIS - 5-30-2007 at 04:24 PM

Seriously, a certificate stateing something never happened sounds as though it was born out of Mexicos Napoleonic law.
If an innocent person was accused of a crime and was without witnesses for his defense, how could he prove he didn't do it?

[Edited on 5-30-2007 by DENNIS]

bajabass - 5-30-2007 at 04:42 PM

Dennis, thanks for the grin!! Al G, keep looking, she is mine!!Bajaguy, we want to do everything by the law, mainly to ease her and her sons immigration here for school for a few years until I am able to relocate south forever!!! :spingrin:

I remember that ad in the G. G., it is on my table at the house in La Mision, I will have Myriam check with her next week. Baja 500 this weekend, no trip south for a zoo in Ensenada, she is coming up here to Orange. Comitan, thank you for a very serious, thought out reply! Many of our questions are Myriams. She, of all people, understands the normal lack of clarity and the possibility of a little time on research saving time, hassle, and $$. I have checked with immigration lawyers, and the best way is to get married in Mexico, then apply for all the paper work here for legal work papers and documentation for school for them both.

Bruce R Leech - 5-30-2007 at 05:32 PM

What they want is a divorce decree. you get it at the same courthouse that you got your divorce

bajabound2005 - 5-30-2007 at 05:36 PM

But, then, one should HAVE a copy of their divorce decree, yes? Heck, go for Bajaguy's idea; lots of seals and stamps and you're all set!

shari - 5-30-2007 at 05:39 PM

I got married in Baja and didn't have to show anything about past marriages as I've never been divorced. it only cost us the mariage license fee at the village office which was like about $20. Done Deal...bring on the margaritas! Suerte amigos.

bajaguy - 5-30-2007 at 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by bajaguy

If that doesn't work, maybe I can marry you....I am a (retired) Captain....all we need is a boat!!!

[Edited on 5-30-2007 by bajaguy]

Oh Oh......Sounds like a proposal. Break out the Pacifico.

I didn't mean I would marry him....I would perform the ceremony..........but I like the Pacifico idea!!!

BajaBruno - 5-30-2007 at 10:53 PM

Hmmmm, I thought I had all this dialed in until I saw Shari's post, because I'm pretty sure she was a non-Mexican marrying a Mexican. If you follow the letter of Mexican law, an alien (non-Mexican) must obtain "permission" to marry a Mexican. I believe it is this process that Bajabass is trying to navigate through.

It is rather complex and there can be some steep fees involved. The requirements vary a bit from state to state, but for the "no prior marriage" affirmation, a simple, signed, notarized statement by the groom that he has never before been married should suffice. As Dennis properly observes, you can't prove a negative except with a statement affirming the negative!

tjvagabundo - 5-30-2007 at 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
I have been in love with Baja since my first trip down surfing in 1973. I now rent a house in the ejido in La Mision and have leased a lot to build my house on in the same ejido. next step!! I am getting married to a wonderful lady doctor from Ensenada in August. I am a little confused by the paper work needed though. I have obtained a birth certificate, and had a passport for years. They also want either divorce records, or a document of some type stating no existing marriage. Do any Nomads have an idea what that would be, or where to obtain one? I also need to have this info all translated into spanish. The fees seem ridiculous, we have been quoted over $700.00 for this task!! At least mi doctora can handle the blood test!! Ah, when this is over I get two weeks of driving to Cabo , and spending a week at my timeshare at Pueblo Bonita Rose. Any Nomad guidance through this process would be great!! :?:

I was married for the first time in Tijuana and did not have to provide any documents of never being married before. I don't think such a document exists. Here's a link to a list of the documents required to be married in Tijuana in spanish. I imagine it's the same for other cities in BC as well. Look under the "B" heading for marriages between a mexican national and a foreigner. What bajabruno posted before is true. As foreigner you need to have a document giving you permission to marry a MN. I paid almost $250 for this 3 years ago.

http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/Tramites/rptTramitesDet.asp

bajalera - 6-1-2007 at 12:14 PM

Suggestion: Type a dated statement saying "I, [your name], hereby certify that I have never previously been married," and have it notarized at your bank or some other place that doesn't give a hoot about whether or not thr statement is true. [But of course you wouldn't lie about anything this serious, would you.]

Notarized statements that don't mean much in the U.S. are accepted as proof of various things in Mexico, where notarization isn't easily or inexpensively obtained.

[Edited on 6-1-2007 by bajalera]

DianaT - 6-1-2007 at 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajalera
Suggestion: Type a dated statement saying "I, [your name], hereby certify that I have never previously been married," and have it notarized at your bank or some other place that doesn't give a hoot about whether or not thr statement is true. [But of course you wouldn't lie about anything this serious, would you.]

Notarized statements that don't mean much in the U.S. are accepted as proof of various things in Mexico, where notarization isn't easily or inexpensively obtained.

[Edited on 6-1-2007 by bajalera]

A notary in California basically is stating that the person who signed the document is that person---while they list the nature of the document in their book, they are not verifying anything about the doument.

Diane

[Edited on 6-1-2007 by jdtrotter]