BajaNomad - naturalization and social security?

naturalization and social security?

Cranskin - 6-27-2007 at 12:46 PM

Does becoming a naturalized Mexican effect getting Social Security payments from US?

Al G - 6-27-2007 at 12:48 PM

Good question...cannot wait to here the answer

Barry A. - 6-27-2007 at 12:54 PM

Not a problem, Cranskin------------just sneak back across the border to the good ol USA and you will be assured of SS regardless of your nationality-------just ask one of those pinheads in Congress!!!

But, having said that, I really don't know the answer to your question, but am curious.

Dave - 6-27-2007 at 01:04 PM

Nothing affects SS payments. Cannot be revoked. Only garnished by the federal government for back taxes or child support.

DENNIS - 6-27-2007 at 01:07 PM

And student loans.

bajalou - 6-27-2007 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Nothing affects SS payments. Cannot be revoked. Only garnished by the federal government for back taxes or child support.

Or Alimony :biggrin:

Al G - 6-27-2007 at 01:24 PM

Same catagory...slighly different question...
Can your SSI payment be sent to a Baja Bank?

CP - 6-27-2007 at 01:32 PM

Does not appear to be a problem getting it sent to Mexico.
www.socialsecurity.gov -
"If you are a U.S. citizen, you may receive your Social Security payments outside the U.S. as long as you are eligible for them. Regardless of your citizenship, there are certain countries where we are not allowed to send payments. For more information, please visit our website at: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10137.html "
From there, looks like N. Korea, Cuba and these are restricted from sending payments Cambodia, Vietnam or areas that were in the former Soviet Union (other than Armenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Russia).

Al G - 6-27-2007 at 01:48 PM

Thanks CP...I now think you answered that question for me or someone before...it definitely jogged my memory.

DENNIS - 6-27-2007 at 01:53 PM

Not SSI. You arn't even allowed to be living in Mexico if you receive SSI.
SSI is a type of welfare for those who have nothing else. Believe me, you won't be allowed to bask in the Baja sun while receiving welfare.

SSI --- Supplimental Security Income

Al G - 6-27-2007 at 02:05 PM

I thought SSI =social security insurance
Maybe...Still Sober Income...I drink a lot of Pacificos...

CP - 6-27-2007 at 02:12 PM

Oops. I stand corrected. Was thinking regular SS benefits.

OOPS !

MrBillM - 6-27-2007 at 06:15 PM

I knew a Gringa South of San Felipe who made the mistake of changing her address for her SSI Checks to her San Felipe P.O. Box. She received a notice that they were suspending her payments. She went back to the states to get it corrected. Haven't seen her since.

SS

tehag - 6-28-2007 at 02:05 PM

Auto deposit to US bank, ATM in Mex, no prob when ATM has money and is working.

Hook - 6-28-2007 at 03:00 PM

I had a gringo real estate agent in Sonora tell me about a D.A.V. who became "inmigrado" in Mexico, developed lung cancer and was never able to re-establish vets benefits in time before he croaked. supposedly, he was now at the back of the line for services, once he came up as no longer a US citizen.

Keep in mind, this was told to me by a real estate agent. :lol:

bajalou - 6-28-2007 at 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hook
I had a gringo real estate agent in Sonora tell me about a D.A.V. who became "inmigrado" in Mexico, developed lung cancer and was never able to re-establish vets benefits in time before he croaked. supposedly, he was now at the back of the line for services, once he came up as no longer a US citizen.

Keep in mind, this was told to me by a real estate agent. :lol:

Just finished getting set up with VA for medical benefits and from reading the material, being a citizen is NOT a requirement for benefits - just being a veteran is all that's required. :biggrin:

DENNIS - 6-28-2007 at 04:28 PM

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Full crap. I'm 100% rated and if there was any interference, I'd make a call. Interference gone.
Yankee Doodle.

bajamigo - 6-28-2007 at 06:28 PM

"Immigrado" status doesn't mean you're forfeiting your US citizenship. The only consequence of any significance is that you lose the protection of the US Consulate while in Mexico. Big loss.

CaboRon - 6-28-2007 at 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM
I knew a Gringa South of San Felipe who made the mistake of changing her address for her SSI Checks to her San Felipe P.O. Box. She received a notice that they were suspending her payments. She went back to the states to get it corrected. Haven't seen her since.

The SS office tells me that I have to give them my MX address even though I maintain a US mailing address, and my checks are direct deposited to Bancommer USA. Does anyone else give them their address? Also does anyone register with the US Consulate when they live in Mexico? I am speaking from the perspective of living year round in Baja Sur. CaboRon :?:

DENNIS - 6-28-2007 at 08:37 PM

Unless absolutly necessary, the less everybody knows, the better off everybody is. Volunteer nothing.

Not true

Dave - 6-28-2007 at 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by bajamigo
The only consequence of any significance is that you lose the protection of the US Consulate while in Mexico. Big loss.

You pledge not to seek protection but retain your U.S. citizenship and passport. If push came to shove it would still be available.

DENNIS - 6-28-2007 at 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
You pledge not to seek protection but retain your U.S. citizenship and passport. If push came to shove it would still be available.

What protection of US citizens has the consulate ever had the balls to pursue?
When did Mexico start listening to the American consulate?
Why are thet here except to be involved in US/MEX business dealings?

Dave - 6-28-2007 at 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon
my checks are direct deposited to Bancommer USA.

That's a U.S. chartered subsidiary, right?

I wouldn't direct deposit money to any Mexican bank.

CaboRon - 6-28-2007 at 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by CaboRon
my checks are direct deposited to Bancommer USA.

That's a U.S. chartered subsidiary, right?

I wouldn't direct deposit money to any Mexican bank.

Yes, It is named BBVA Bancomer USA and you can withdraw pesos at the MX Bancommer ATM at the mid-market rate plus one percent to Visa who processes the International Debit card. Seems like a good arangement. CaboRon

Dave - 6-28-2007 at 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
What protection of US citizens has the consulate ever had the balls to pursue?
When did Mexico start listening to the American consulate?
Why are thet here except to be involved in US/MEX business dealings?

It happens. Not with the regularity that you or I would like but it does happen. Most often behind the scenes. Sometimes a congressman will see a potential photo op and get involved. Sometimes it's the media. Other times a businessman will know someone who knows someone else...

Bottom line:

If I had dual citizenship and was under the gun I would trust my government over the Mexican justice system.

I know, I know...A tough call but...barely.

Hook - 6-29-2007 at 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Full crap. I'm 100% rated and if there was any interference, I'd make a call. Interference gone.
Yankee Doodle.

So you have rescinded your US citizenship and have become a naturalized Mexican citizen? Otherwise, it's not exactly apples to apples here.

DENNIS - 6-29-2007 at 12:21 PM

I have an FM3. I wouldn't rescind my US citizenship for anything.
I didn't see anything up there that mentioned naturalization.