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West Coast’s Largest Mega Yacht Marina Puts Down Anchor at Ensenada’s “Porto Hussong”

SUNDOG - 7-17-2007 at 10:44 AM

West Coast’s Largest Mega Yacht Marina Puts Down Anchor at Ensenada’s “Porto Hussong”
SAN DIEGO, Calif. -- The largest mega yacht marina facility on the west coast of the Americas will soon put down anchor at “Porto Hussong” in the port city of Ensenada, providing much-needed and long-awaited slips for luxury mega yachts. In addition to the coastline condominiums and boutique hotel, the centerpiece of the 16-acre world-class Porto Hussong resort will be a 290-slip marina with 76 recreational vessel berths capable of handling mega yachts up to 400 feet in length.

“We’re already receiving inquiries and reservation requests from affluent yachters around the world,” says Doug Bowers, director of marketing for Meridian Development Group, LLC (MDG) building Porto Hussong. “From this early response and the pent-up demand, we anticipate that the marina will quickly become one of the most popular yachting destinations on the western seaboard.”

In the last several years there’s been a worldwide boom in the construction of mega yachts -- private and corporate boats boasting 100 feet or longer. Here on the west coast in waters from Alaska to Baja, yachts ranging from 200 to 400 feet and priced from $50 million plus are not unusual. But according to international marina designer John Corrough of The Corrough Consulting Group, it isn’t all smooth sailing for millionaire mariners.

“There’s been an extreme shortage of docks big enough to handle these very large high-end yachts, especially here in Southern California, Baja California and mainland Mexico south,” said Corrough, whose Newport Beach, California-based company is designing the exclusive Porto Hussong mega yacht marina and plush yacht club.

“There are greatly-increasing numbers of these mega yachts being built and so few berths currently available or under construction on the west coast to try to balance supply and demand,” he said. “This new ‘purpose-built’ marina at Porto Hussong, with full-service amenities for the yachting market, will provide much-needed docks, utilities and support services packages for vessels 80 to 400 feet long, as well as for those in the 40 to 80 foot range.”

In addition to filling a portion of the regional slip shortage, the new marina will provide premium yacht accommodations not currently available in the Ensenada area: fuel, security, concierge, sales, brokerage, delivery and management services, in addition to a helipad for owners and guests to meet their yachts in harbor. Other marina amenities include charter fishing and diving, charter sailboats, boat rental, ferries and water taxis. The resort will also provide customs and immigration clearance services for those arriving by sea.

Construction on the marina is expected to begin summer 2008, with grand opening anticipated in summer 2009. Ground has already broken on the first phase of the $450-million project that will be a unique mixture of premier resort retreat and exclusive residential enclave.

First-class residential living and vacation opportunities at Porto Hussong will include 450 private oceanfront residential condominiums from the high $600,000s to $3 million; a 60-suite upscale boutique hotel with lavish interiors; and membership in “The Meridian Club” Private Residence Club. Resort amenities will include a fitness center, pool, spa facilities, tennis courts, bicycle pathways and an 8,800-square-foot Marina Village with galleries, a café, bakery and market, and specialty boutique shops.

More about Porto Hussong can be found at www.portohussong.com or by calling U.S. tel. 866-212-1095. In Mexico call (646)175-2605.

elgatoloco - 7-17-2007 at 11:02 AM

I wonder if I will be able to get a Pastrami? :biggrin:

http://www.portohussong.com/index.cfm

Diver - 7-17-2007 at 11:07 AM

When I lived in south Florida, I used to love pulling into the big marinas in my 28' Carver.
In the middle of the giants. Nothing but hulls to look at.
But, some of those big-boat people can really throw some parties !!
Maybe I'll put on my captain's hat and take the 14' tin boat to this place some time !?!? :biggrin:

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Hook - 7-17-2007 at 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by elgatoloco
I wonder if I will be able to get a Pastrami? :biggrin:

http://www.portohussong.com/index.cfm


Come on, Dave. Time to bid on the new commercial space going in.

The Ensenada police are soooo much more reputable than the Rosarito police. :lol:


Love the use of the phrase "much needed" in describing a mega-yacht harbor. Need and yacht in the same sentence????

surfer jim - 7-17-2007 at 12:04 PM

Wish I had some rich friends so I could tell them about this place.....:biggrin:

Roberto - 7-17-2007 at 02:55 PM

SO, why is it a Dodge - it's a law, and it would be pretty silly not to take advantage of it, don't you think.

You may be surprised to find out that a large percentage of boat owners are far from rich, rather people who have broken the bank to buy a dream.

Maybe you think re-instituting the luxury tax for boats would be a better idea in your opinion.

Roberto - 7-17-2007 at 06:56 PM

I thought I DID characterize it - maybe you need some reading comprehension lessons?

Roberto - 7-17-2007 at 08:25 PM

Sorry, Grover, nice try.

Once again, you refuse to engage - you would rather make your "hit and run" posts - with little substance and, as often seems to happen, little information on the topic at hand. You should have been a politician, that's the level of your posts on this topic.

Go down to Marina Coral and the marinas in Ensenada harbor. Or, for that matter talk to hundreds of "rich folk" in La Paz marinas or the larger trailerboaters up and down Mexico and then talk about how boaters are rich folk and are just dodging the system. You are clueless, but that will not stop you from your cute comments and Internet "research".

Let's eliminate the dodge and, in fact, tax those luxuries that only rich people can afford, and then, let's see what happens to the boating industry. I could take this further and bring up the "tax the rich" spirit, but why bother?

[Edited on 7-18-2007 by Roberto]

David K - 7-17-2007 at 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Sorry, Grover, nice try.

Once again, you refuse to engage - you would rather make your "hit and run" posts - with little substance and, as often seems to happen, little information on the topic at hand. You should have been a politician, that's the level of your posts on this topic.

[Edited on 7-18-2007 by Roberto]


"Hit and Run posts"???

That's really rich coming from the 'king' of hit and run posts!:rolleyes:

Finally, a place to park my panga!

bajamigo - 7-17-2007 at 09:14 PM



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bajadock - 7-17-2007 at 09:34 PM

Crew of two + neighbor "D" for miscellaneous services?

"tax dodge", I think not...

Mexray - 7-17-2007 at 09:36 PM

...If you wish to avoid Calif sales tax on your next boat, big or small, you can have it delivered across the border, etc., just like the big boys...the choice is yours.

Don't forget that mega-yacht owner basing his new vessel in Mexico to avoid sales tax probably owns a big-buck casa north of the border that he's paying really mega property taxes to California, EVERY year! Also, if he brings his mega yacht back to California after his year in Mexico, the county he moors it in will also hit him up for personal property taxes based on the value...EVERY year.

Please don't try and tell me the rich aren't paying their part of the taxes on these 'toys'! Those big yachts take lots of upkeep, crew, supplies, etc., etc and there's lots of taxes (and jobs) connected with those items as well!

Now if Mr. mega yacht owner makes out tax-wise in his particular industry...blame our Congress and their hair-brained tax laws. If these spineless elected officials would get off their 'six's' and pass a Fair Tax law, we'd all be taxed on the things we buy - not on the money we earn...so if you want to buy a big new toy, you'll pay your 'Fair' share just like every body else!

...end of my tax rant 101.

Roberto - 7-18-2007 at 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by David K
"Hit and Run posts"???

That's really rich coming from the 'king' of hit and run posts!:rolleyes:


Once again, you prove the level of cluelessness you have attained by showing you did not understand my point or comment (that, by the way had NOTHING to do with you).

In that vein, any time you want to "engage" in a detailed discussion of why I feel about you the way I do, let me know, I'd be happy to accomodate you, though I have explained it to you several time in no uncertain terms so I'm pretty sure you know EXACTLY why I consider you a dishonest, clueless hypocrite.

We can start with your jumping in to attack me in this post after you have repeated innumerable times that you don't attack - just defend yourself. But it's all ok for you, right KOB?

Avoiding Taxes

MrBillM - 7-18-2007 at 09:54 AM

None of the boats I ever owned exceeded $25K in value, but it P--sed me off every year to write that check to the County for "Personal Property Tax". It was especially irritating because their depreciation schedule is unlike anything in the REAL World. After Ten years on one boat, I was still paying at approx 80 % New value. Worse yet, when the boat was in a slip in San Diego, I periodically had to fight that county's attempt to bill me also.

These Taxes are Governmental Thuggery and I applaud ANYBODY (Rich or otherwise) who can avoid them.

Loboron - 7-18-2007 at 11:10 AM

Paying taxes

Sounds like the folks crying about the “Rich Boat owners” going south to avoid “Sales Tax” have never fudged on their taxes, State or Federal. They just pay, no itemized deductions, no inflated deductions to beat the system, just pay what the schedule calls for, yea right.

For those who don’t know the law in most states with regards to “Sales Tax” including California and the rest of the West coast states, although the laws are similar along the East coast as well when it comes to making a purchase and having it delivered to another state.

When making a purchase of any kind, large or small, cheap or expensive and you take delivery of that item out of the Jurisdiction of the state of California you don’t have to pay sales tax on it. There are literally hundreds of items purchased daily and shipped to other states and there is no sales tax added.

A few examples; Go buy a very expensive wedding ring for your new fiancé and you find the sales tax is another $500.00 and you can’t afford it. Have them Fed-X it to a trusted friend or family member out of the state, then have them ship it back and you pay no sales tax because you took delivery out of the state.

This one should upset a few of you, but it happens almost daily.

The Indians who live on our federal reservations can go to the city and purchase a car. They then take delivery on the reservation and pay no sales tax.

I live in Ensenada; I went up to San Diego a couple of years ago to purchase a car for my wife. Just before we completed the deal I said I wanted to take delivery in Tijuana, and thus I wasn’t going to have to pay either sales tax or DMV fees. The sales person said, “Ha, you can’t do that” I told him to check with his DMV person. When he got off the telephone with her he said there would be a $50 fee to deliver the car to Tijuana. I said no problem and took delivery in T.J and saved a bunch of money.

The point is the states can’t justify charging you sales tax for something you purchase and take delivery of out of the state and use it in another jurisdiction. Why would all the boats purchased in California, that live full time throughout Baja have to pay taxes on it in California?

vandenberg - 7-18-2007 at 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Loboron

I live in Ensenada; I went up to San Diego a couple of years ago to purchase a car for my wife. Just before we completed the deal I said I wanted to take delivery in Tijuana, and thus I wasn’t going to have to pay either sales tax or DMV fees. The sales person said, “Ha, you can’t do that” I told him to check with his DMV person. When he got off the telephone with her he said there would be a $50 fee to deliver the car to Tijuana. I said no problem and took delivery in T.J and saved a bunch of money.


Very interesting.
However I like an explanation how you went about licence and registration,since you saved your DMV fees:?::?::?:

oldhippie - 7-18-2007 at 11:48 AM

Back to the topic. This is a good idea. Ensenada is exactly the kind of place for new development and redevelopment. Also, it's good to know that the developers are Mexican, instead of Canadians or Spaniards. Keep the money in the country! Maybe I'll park my yacht there someday. :)

Loreto on the other hand................:fire:

Loboron - 7-18-2007 at 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg
Quote:
Originally posted by Loboron

I live in Ensenada; I went up to San Diego a couple of years ago to purchase a car for my wife. Just before we completed the deal I said I wanted to take delivery in Tijuana, and thus I wasn’t going to have to pay either sales tax or DMV fees. The sales person said, “Ha, you can’t do that” I told him to check with his DMV person. When he got off the telephone with her he said there would be a $50 fee to deliver the car to Tijuana. I said no problem and took delivery in T.J and saved a bunch of money.


Very interesting.
However I like an explanation how you went about licence and registration,since you saved your DMV fees:?::?::?:


We purchased the car for use in Ensenada. I didn't want to pay fees twice (California & Mexico) since we were going to import the car and licensed it for Mexico, which we subsequently did.

Hook - 7-18-2007 at 11:54 AM

Loboron, I am not going to pass judgement on the process of , wink-wink "offshore delivery" of boats to Mexico but it IS a tax dodge for a fair number. Many have ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of keeping their boats in Mexico for the foreseeable future. California knows this, too; that's why the passed a law about a year ago that lengthened the time period that a vessel had to be owned outside of the state to qualify for the exemption from sales tax.

Personally, I think it's ridiculous that the State gets involved in ANY exchange of used goods between private citizens.

I guess I couldnt help but pass judgment afterall........

Loboron - 7-18-2007 at 12:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
Loboron, I am not going to pass judgement on the process of , wink-wink "offshore delivery" of boats to Mexico but it IS a tax dodge for a fair number. Many have ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of keeping their boats in Mexico for the foreseeable future. California knows this, too; that's why the passed a law about a year ago that lengthened the time period that a vessel had to be owned outside of the state to qualify for the exemption from sales tax.

Personally, I think it's ridiculous that the State gets involved in ANY exchange of used goods between private citizens.

I guess I couldnt help but pass judgment afterall........


Actually it's looked at as a Savings instead of a Dodge, a lot of people who could not otherwise afford a more expensive or larger boat, Airplane, etc could make the larger purchase with the savings of the sales tax.

You're absolutely correct, most of the buyers do return to California and pay property tax and marina rent, hire mechanics go to the boat yards for annual repairs etc.

Yes, the State changed the law requiring items purchased and delivered out of state for "Californians" from 6 months to a year. However, if you live out of the State of Califiornia and make a purchase in California, you still have to remain out for only 6 months.

[Edited on 7-18-2007 by Loboron]

The Sculpin - 7-18-2007 at 12:16 PM

Loboron,
You are half right. What you are missing is the "Use" tax. In your example, when the wedding ring arrived in California, it was subject to use tax in california, regardless of whether or not sales tax was collected in another state or jurisdiction. Another example - you buy an item on eBay form someone in Georgia. He ships it to you, and there is no sales tax on the transaction. Wrong. The seller has no obligagtion to collect sales tax in his state because it is being shipped to another state, and the seller has no connection to California. The buyer (you) is then responsible for paying use tax on that item because you intend to use it in California. However, if your intent was to use it in, say, Texas, and you were receiving it in Cal as a convenience, then you would file an exemption with CA and pay Texas use tax.

s for your Indian example, as long as the car stays on the reservation, it will not be taxed. If it is used outside of the reservation, it becomes fair game.

As for the Mexico example, aren't you in fact importing the car? Isn't that a taxable transaction? The taxes may be far lower, but you still have to pay tax.

Bob H - 7-18-2007 at 12:19 PM

Whooooeee.... soon Tiger Woods can bring is 155 footer down.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1103042tigeryacht1.html

Bob H

Cypress - 7-18-2007 at 12:39 PM

Hook. Agree with your take on the selling of "used/second-hand" anything. Why should I or anybody else pay taxes on a garage sale exchange that cost the govt. nothing.:):tumble:

Dave - 7-21-2007 at 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Hook
Come on, Dave. Time to bid on the new commercial space going in.


All retail will be operated by Porto Hussong. There will be an upscale market/ bakery/deli. A pastrami sandwich will be on the menu. You won't like the price. ;D

surfer jim - 7-21-2007 at 06:00 PM

Tiger is a "cry baby"......:lol:

Iflyfish - 7-22-2007 at 06:27 AM

Does anyone know if they have already gotten permission to build this port or is this speculation at this point? The hoped for port has been in the planning stages for at least the last four years. I know that it was held up by the permit process. It was initially to be a small marina for those who purchased property on the site.

Thanks

Iflyfish

Not speculation

Dave - 7-22-2007 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Iflyfish
Does anyone know if they have already gotten permission to build this port or is this speculation at this point?


All permits have been issued.

CaboRon - 7-22-2007 at 09:51 AM

Is this new port on the southern part of the bay? Or closer to Ensanada ? CaboRon :?:

Baja&Back - 7-22-2007 at 10:13 AM

It's just south of the Hotel Coral, 2 miles north of town.