Have you ever had that selfish feeling you get when you're 50 friggin' miles from nothing on some left turn. It's a wonderful feeling. You look down
at the track yer on and the only tire prints you see are those behind your rig.
How far should you go. How long should you stay? That my friend is your decision. I just want to command and control that road I'm on. One thang fer sure. My
life will be enriched with every pit and shore, dune or arroyo I cross. I envy the likes of Neil Johns, squarecircle et all. Yah, I'll be out there
owning my own road as soon as I can.
I need a fix bigtime!.craiggers - 7-30-2007 at 02:27 AM
When traveling alone I prefer the road less traveled vs the road not traveled at all. I don't mind seeing one or two fresh tracks on the trail I'm on.
It usually mean that trail goes somewhere.Mexitron - 7-30-2007 at 05:09 AM
One road we went on in the North Central Baja Highlands only had our tracks from the year before...windswept lonely place but beautiful...ahhhh....Osprey - 7-30-2007 at 06:54 AM
Sharks, you must have ESPN. I was just thinking about me and the outback last night. I stay off the beach here on Sundays because there is too much
activity -- mostly daytrippers, campers who like to camp while touching each other. Yuck! Then I day dreamed about all the zillions of weekend and
other trips I took from Las Vegas to the ends of the unwanted, unused earth so I could be alone (or almost). One favorite was on the Arizona strip
where my jeep just followed animal tracks to the river or Lake Mead. In southern Utah I found over 40 places to fish where I could be almost
guaranteed a solo camp spot at times. One such end of the puckerbrush trail creek (Browse Creek) I came to call "One Time Creek" because nobody would
go there with me a second time. For empty space nobody cares about you just can't beat the west with all that BLM land.wilderone - 7-30-2007 at 08:44 AM
" For empty space nobody cares about you just can't beat the west with all that BLM land."
We wilderness lovers care most deeply about all that empty space, which is why we support NRDC, SUWA, et al. And it is because of the protectors and
conservators of open space that it is still there. The BLM has been notoriously imprudent in its management of our public lands, succumbing to
demands of offroad enthusiasts, oil exploration, mining, grazing. If you love it, help protect it.Osprey - 7-30-2007 at 08:49 AM
Ok "For empty space nobody cares to travel through...... happy now?Roberto - 7-30-2007 at 09:20 AM
I would doubt that wilderone would support your jeep following animal tracks just so you can be alone. But, I might be wrong.shari - 7-30-2007 at 09:32 AM
Gotta love baja...we returned to el Tordillo beach and ours were the only tracks from a couple weeks ago...but when we went to leave we surprisingly
found another set close to our truck...the vigilancia was checking up I guess...probably just bowed out quietly when he found us jay bird style on the
beach! We never saw or heard them! Juan is an expert on tracks and can tell who's been where and when.Osprey - 7-30-2007 at 09:43 AM
Roberto, I sure hope I get support. I need support. I need love. At times when I feel I'm not being loved I get so depressed I just have to jump in
my jeep and follow animal tracks. There's just no way out of this dilema.vgabndo - 7-30-2007 at 10:41 AM
Osprey: I agree with everything you are saying, but I hope that your days of driving vehicles on animal tracks are over.
I do a lot of dual sport motorcycling here in Northern California and only two things really P me off. Clear cut logging and the scars left by people
who won't be satisfied to just use the tens of thousands of miles of dirt roads that are open to them.
On our last two rides we got a chance to stop and watch a pretty little doe and her two spotted fawns, we crossed the tracks in the dust of two bears,
one of them a cub with feet the size of a coyote, a covey of quail with chicks the size of your thumb, and an Osprey with a pan sized trout in it's
bomb rack. We passed zero other vehicles on the dirt roads.
Its different than Baja, but almost as good! Here's the highest elevation from yesterday. Sheep Rock in the foreground and Mt. Shasta (very bare this
year). Castle Spire is just barely visible on the horizon, and Black Butte is in the smoke from the Happy Camp fire at center right.
I can't wait to get back to Baja now that I have a dirt bike again.
Osprey - 7-30-2007 at 11:02 AM
Wow, that is spectacular. You're a lucky guy. The Arizona strip where I fished, hunted and camped is in the Lake Mead National Rec. Area, then part
is BLM, very little private land. The area I traveled had a few dirt roads but most were not maintained and many were no more than tracks, none were
fenced or posted so it was a perfect opportunity to get away from it all enjoy the out of doors without disturbing the environment (except for the
intrusion of me, my wife, my jeep and my puppy). I'm not gonna apologize to anyone for the good times I had there.Cypress - 7-30-2007 at 11:32 AM
If you really want the experience of getting back in the boonies, you've got to park your 4x4, quad etc., put on your hiking boots, saddle up your nag
and get a map.
New track, old track, no track?
Sharksbaja - 7-30-2007 at 02:55 PM
I would agree in principal that blatant trailblazing can be detrimental in varying degrees upon varied terrain. As an example, I don't see the harm
done to tidal beaches from vehicles driving along them. I'm not talking about the bother of hordes of quads. Just the terrain.
By contrast, driving off unestablished roads or tracks can do bad things. Many of these old roads or tracks lead to ranchos or beaches or ?? and are
seldom used anymore. Occasionally the military Humvees will follow your tracks or just take these routes as part of the drug patrol. I've been shocked
to see them in many places out in nowheresville.
I prefer to think that nomads have enough common sense when it comes to oof-roading er, off-roading.
Besides how else can some remote beautiful place get exploited. Just post the greatness along with the GPS and highlighted maps. You'll soon have a
Pemex at the fork where everyone turns off.
Now, go find your own desolate track and let me be!toneart - 7-30-2007 at 09:36 PM
I prefer hiking boots and a bicycle, where possible; in Baja or in Northern California. Also, if I can get away from the terrain scars and the
noisemakers, I'm happy!
(My avatar self destructed. I'll have to work on that.)
Here is a view from my deck:
Nothing wrong with Shark's quest for solitude on trackless roads.
[Edited on 7-31-2007 by toneart]
CaboRon - 7-31-2007 at 05:47 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
If you really want the experience of getting back in the boonies, you've got to park your 4x4, quad etc., put on your hiking boots, saddle up your nag
and get a map.
I totally agree, CaboRonbajadogs - 8-1-2007 at 09:52 AM
I love the spirit of this thread.
My brother and I made a quick trip this past weekend to discover new areas. The place where we camped was ruled by 4x4's, quads and dune buggies
leaving scars all over the place. We woke up early, drove my truck down an established dirt road for a few miles till it narrowed to a path, parked
the truck, put on our hiking boots and wandered a few more miles in a direction that lead us to an area that no machine has ever been. We hiked over
boulders and through canyons that few, if any people have ever been while the off-roaders tore up circles miles away.
Right on Cypress - Park the cage and hike.
It was a great weekend, except for the 3 hour wait at Otay.
oldhippie - 8-1-2007 at 10:27 AM
I was up at the observatory a few weeks ago, midweek. The national park is wonderful. We were the only tourists there from what I could tell. The road
is paved except for the last 10 kilometers or so. Cars and large RVs would have a tough time on the last stretch. The Ford Condominium did fine.
There was no wind, it was completely silent except for an occasional bird. I enjoyed listening to a woodpecker do his thing.
You could smell the pine.
oldhippie - 8-1-2007 at 10:28 AM
Smiley on point.
oldhippie - 8-1-2007 at 10:29 AM
aspen
oldhippie - 8-1-2007 at 10:32 AM
Ford Condominium at campsite
oldhippie - 8-1-2007 at 10:47 AM
One other "adventure" at the park. Osama the mutt named so because he terrorizes Smiley, got off his leash at the entrance to the observatory (about
9000 feet elevation or so) and being the dumb dog he his took off. So this fat oldhippie had to run after the puto (he likes to hump Smiley, also a
male). I caught up to him in a full sweat. Guess I'll skip the cardiac stress test this year. bacquito - 8-1-2007 at 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by oldhippie
Ford Condominium at campsite
I have a Callen Camper on my 2001 Toyota Tundra-great campers
right on sharks!
woody with a view - 8-1-2007 at 04:02 PM
Quote:
Many of these old roads or tracks lead to ranchos or beaches or ?? and are seldom used anymore.
is that such a bad thing? no gps or detailed maps allowed!!!